| 1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. my point or rather what i am trying to say is that people whould not worry too much about scores or average scores.you should not care if someone rated something you liked with a lower score. the opposite is true. it is just opinions. everyone is different. we are all the same. if i were in your place and got affected by the same factors such as environment and people around you, i would probably done similar stuff in your anime/manga journey. maybe. do jot take stuff seriously. have a good day. |
HussFeb 2, 2019 2:03 AM
| some animes that are rated below a 5 (some as in all) are garbage. the chances of most people liking one of those is low, hence id say they are pretty accurate. don't forget a lot and i mean a LOT of people do not rate below a 5. for a show to be rated below a 5 on mal means something LOL. |
| yeah true scores are great but it should not decide wether you will enjoy the stuff or not |
| Have a good time ^-^)/ |
| Didn't we all learn in like elementary school that opinions don't matter? This isn't new information. |
PsychoticDave said: Didn't we all learn in like elementary school that opinions don't matter? This isn't new information. it was new for me. I did not learn that in elementary nor in high school. |
Huss said: PsychoticDave said: Didn't we all learn in like elementary school that opinions don't matter? This isn't new information. it was new for me. I did not learn that in elementary nor in high school. So like... you care about what people think about stuff? That's crazy bro. I need a minute on that one. |
PsychoticDave said: So like... you care about what people think about stuff? That's crazy bro. I need a minute on that one. i do not understand my friend. what are you trying to say here? my English is not that good. |
Huss said: It's impossible for me to be not care if someone rates a show I loved low...1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. my point or rather what i am trying to say is that people whould not worry too much about scores or average scores.you should not care if someone rated something you liked with a lower score. the opposite is true. it is just opinions. everyone is different. we are all the same. if i were in your place and got affected by the same factors such as environment and people around you, i would probably done similar stuff in your anime/manga journey. maybe. do jot take stuff seriously. have a good day. |
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Kuraya said: Huss said: It's impossible for me to be not care if someone rates a show I loved low...1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. my point or rather what i am trying to say is that people whould not worry too much about scores or average scores.you should not care if someone rated something you liked with a lower score. the opposite is true. it is just opinions. everyone is different. we are all the same. if i were in your place and got affected by the same factors such as environment and people around you, i would probably done similar stuff in your anime/manga journey. maybe. do jot take stuff seriously. have a good day. that is understandable and is fine. but i think i can somehow convince you, maybe. i will try hahha. so there are about 7 billion on the planet, right? there must be people who will disagree with you there are many people coming from different backgrounds and environment and culture. it is really insane how there are many different people around the world. it is good thing that there are many different people.imagine if most people are same, it would be a boring life for sure. anime wouldnt be as diverse as it is. there is no single anime where people agree itnis good. you will always have people whondo not like it or be indifferent to it. so when you think about that opinion of someone you disagree with wont affect much about your life. imagine caring for the dosens different opinions around the world. you would be crushed by depression hahaha |
Huss said: I'm not some dumb kid, I'm completely aware that the difference between humans is crucial. However that can't stop it, when I hear someone hating on a show I like I just feel bad... There's nothing I can do, just keep myself away.Kuraya said: It's impossible for me to be not care if someone rates a show I loved low... that is understandable and is fine. but i think i can somehow convince you, maybe. i will try hahha. so there are about 7 billion on the planet, right? there must be people who will disagree with you there are many people coming from different backgrounds and environment and culture. it is really insane how there are many different people around the world. it is good thing that there are many different people.imagine if most people are same, it would be a boring life for sure. anime wouldnt be as diverse as it is. there is no single anime where people agree itnis good. you will always have people whondo not like it or be indifferent to it. so when you think about that opinion of someone you disagree with wont affect much about your life. imagine caring for the dosens different opinions around the world. you would be crushed by depression hahaha |
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PsychoticDave said: i guess they thought you the wrong thing thenDidn't we all learn in like elementary school that opinions don't matter? This isn't new information. |
Scores do matter because they:
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Zarutaku said: Scores do matter because they:
they matter yes, but check out what I wrote to understand what i am trying to say. |
Kuraya said: It's impossible for me to be not care if someone rates a show I loved low... Why? Does it affect you in any way? I don't care if someone rated One Piece a 1/10 As long as they keep making my favorite anime, I don't care about haters nor people who doesn't enjoy the show. Anyway, Scores do matter, as a way to see what majority of people here like. But that's all. In the end you should judge the show yourself because one man's garbage might be another man's treasure (and vice versa). |
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Shicchi said: Kuraya said: It's impossible for me to be not care if someone rates a show I loved low... Why? Does it affect you in any way? I don't care if someone rated One Piece a 1/10 As long as they keep making my favorite anime, I don't care about haters nor people who doesn't enjoy the show. Anyway, Scores do matter, as a way to see what majority of people here like. But that's all. In the end you should judge the show yourself because one man's garbage might be another man's treasure (and vice versa). People don't really get to decide what their emotional gut reactions are. I too feel a bit bad if someone dislikes something I like despite knowing full well it doesn't affect me in any way and that it's just a matter of personal taste. It just happens. Other than that, yeah, scores are a decent enough way of measuring general consensus (in the case of average scores) or for getting a general idea on how much someone likes a certain show (in the case of personal scores), but obviously aren't going to be as insightful as detailed opinions. That said, detailed opinions aren't always available and take a lot more time and effort to formulate into something other people will understand, so scores do have their place. Nothing new in this paragraph, was there... |
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| yea scores are indications of our personal taste and affinity toward those anime i disagree with some of my friends' scores on a lot of anime but i do not care if they dislike the ones that i adore it kinda interesting to know the reasons behind their dislikes though and i can learn something from their perspectives the 1-10 scale doesn't cover everything, and you have to ask and gather the opinions from raters to understand why personally, whenever i see someone rated an anime below a 5, my expectations are spitefully betrayed, and i cannot do anything about it but accept the fact that they're thinking negatively of the anime that i hold positive opinions of |
| how many times we've had these topics with poeple coming in and thinking they have an opinion nobody has ever expressed before that's gonna change anything... when in actuality it's been said thouthands of times before and is one of the most obvious thing about this topic. also, this is agaisnt AD rules. |
| @Huss nice Battle Angel Alita sig. Fantastic manga, more people should read. |
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| I would say that those points are pretty apparent. It's true that more detailed opinion is always going to be better representation of it. However, while one does not necessarily have to let it affect one's actions and opinions, I wouldn't call them entirely useless. If one knows how to interpret them, overall anime score on MAL can be useful piece of data, even if somewhat flawed. One can tell what is approximate likely hood of liking said show, for instance. Personal scores of each person can also tell something about their taste, and whether one could enjoy talking about anime with said person or not. They are in a way empty data if there is no explanation how to interpret them, since everyone scores differently, but taking into consideration how they differ from person's average, and how many other shows are rated the same can already be telling a lot. |
| You are right, bravo! Even if trolls are crybabies, you shouldn't care because they have no life. |
Zehennagel said: how many times we've had these topics with poeple coming in and thinking they have an opinion nobody has ever expressed before that's gonna change anything... when in actuality it's been said thouthands of times before and is one of the most obvious thing about this topic. also, this is agaisnt AD rules. nothing wrong with that. it is better than some of the wierd posts in mal anyway. |
| scores matter a little bit. I have never seen a low scored show that I wholeheartedly enjoyed and where I rated it above 8. However I have seen a ton of shows with high scores that I think are extremely overrated and don't deserve a score that high. A mixed bag for me. I'll change my opinion on this when I watched an anime with a score below 8 that I enjoyed as a 9 or 10. |
PsychoticDave said: learning is different from understandingDidn't we all learn in like elementary school that opinions don't matter? This isn't new information. |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| While scores do matter, it shouldn't be taken way too seriously as there are people complaining that a show is rated "too high" or "Too low" while its airing. While searching Anime, I rather check the score of my friends (Specifically those whose taste is similar to mine and are very honest with their ratings) and then ask them what do they think of the show. I usually don't bother with reviews unless the reviewer is someone I know and knows what he's talking about. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| I can understand this to a degree. I think most shows that have low scores are generally agreed upon by the community to be bad. However, I think some scores are pretty misleading. I still refuse to understand why Charlotte has a higher score than shows like Shiki, School-Live!, and Zombieland Saga. |
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| 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter I totally agree I don't understand why so much people argument about it,just watch what you like it doesn't matter if it's overrated or underrated.. |
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Huss said: 1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. my point or rather what i am trying to say is that people whould not worry too much about scores or average scores.you should not care if someone rated something you liked with a lower score. the opposite is true. it is just opinions. everyone is different. we are all the same. if i were in your place and got affected by the same factors such as environment and people around you, i would probably done similar stuff in your anime/manga journey. maybe. do jot take stuff seriously. have a good day. >everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores You are contradicting yourself here. Scores and reviews, or "detailed opinions" how you like to call it, are pretty much the same. They are both subjective and should not matter. The most notably difference between a score and a review is the wall of text surrounding its given score, whereas just a score is lacking its reasoning behind its scoring. |
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Huss said: 1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. my point or rather what i am trying to say is that people whould not worry too much about scores or average scores.you should not care if someone rated something you liked with a lower score. the opposite is true. it is just opinions. everyone is different. we are all the same. if i were in your place and got affected by the same factors such as environment and people around you, i would probably done similar stuff in your anime/manga journey. maybe. do jot take stuff seriously. have a good day. I feel like this is pointless, there was no real point to this. Because the point you said you had is common sense that everyone who uses this site would already know unless they are like 5. |
| you're cool |
| 1 and 5, that's how I feel. I personally don't understand why people don't rate shows. It shows people more or less what you think of a show and like...why not? |
| Gnyo ho! |
| Isn't the fact that u took the trouble to create this topic a proof that scores matter to u at least? |
| If the scores are too low, then it must be waste of time to watch it. People don't give low scores for nothing, there must be something that's really awful /ridiculous to get low score. |
| My scores did matter to me. They remind me what I think about the shows I have given them. But I never care about overall ratings. |
Huss said: 1- scores are good. it is a way to make a short version that allow others understand how people feel about the work. but i would argue they do not matter much when compared to detailed opinions. 2-scores are limited. they are inherently flawed. 3- good reviews or good detailed opinion is better. 4- everyone is different. how they score works is different. and no matter how very different we are from each other, a detailed opinion is much much better than scores. 5- being overrated and underrated do not matter 6- works of fiction such as anime and manga are complex works with many layers. a simple number or simple phrases is not enough. 1 - It matters and it helps to understand the more detailed opinions. 2 - They are limited, but I don't think they are flawed because they aren't missleading. 3 - Good reviews and detailed opinions are pretty rare, only a small minority of them worth reading. 4 - A score without context is pointless, so I guess you are right. 5 - Yes it matters, the viewers differ in both cases, so if the point of view is different so it's the opinion. 6 - They are not complex, they are pretty subjective. |
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Vilkku92 said: People don't really get to decide what their emotional gut reactions are. I too feel a bit bad if someone dislikes something I like despite knowing full well it doesn't affect me in any way and that it's just a matter of personal taste. It just happens. Well yeah... I mean, ofc I too felt sad when I see ppl who dislike my favorite, and anger when I see ppl who bash and score it blindly. All my favorite shows are popular, so yeah with that popularity also means a ton of haters. So I learned how to ignore them lol. |
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| did an affinity check with the OP and was completely baffled |
| Scores are the only semblance of order in my life and are therefore very important |
| help |
| Scores matter as its a general sense of the viewing experience for the general audience. More likely you will find a show you like in the higher rated ones than those in the lower rated ones. |
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DUDZ_DNA said: some animes that are rated below a 5 (some as in all) are garbage. the chances of most people liking one of those is low, hence id say they are pretty accurate. don't forget a lot and i mean a LOT of people do not rate below a 5. for a show to be rated below a 5 on mal means something LOL. ^This. Shows with the higher scores, like Steins;Gate, FMAB, Your Lie in April etc tend to be of better quality than shows with a 6 or lower. There's a margin of error sure, but the score system is useful. |
| I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
| Thanks for sharing OP, everyone already knew this but you decided to waste your time making this thread anyway. |
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| They only matter in that they remind me what I thought of titles I've seen as a supplement to my own memory. They're not of any use to anyone but yourself, because all those numbers mean different things to everyone else. |
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| I never knew about this. thank u OP for enlightening me |
| I think they do give some idea if anime is good or not. Of course opinion changes scores a bit, some high rated aren't enjoyable to me when some lower rated are. But those with high scores are usually well-made animes even if I'm not fan of all themes and genres they have, for example Bakemonogatari that I recently watched, wasn't worth that 8.35 it has, gave it 7 myself, but it was pretty well made even if I was quite annoyed of "waifu of the ep" thing. And those that have lower than.. even 7 usually aren't that well made, they have quite some issues even if they might have enjoyable stuff. |
| I always give it a shot if it has over 7.5, however there are some titles out there, seasonal releases, that i enjoyed and they have a rating below 7. |
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