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Dec 25, 2018 10:11 AM
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Why is there a RWBY Manga but no RWBY Anime in MAL? Seems illogical to me. I know the production is American but the studio has made the effort to make the show more japanese-like. If there is a mod here, please do something about this if you can.

Sorry if this topic has already been covered somewhere.

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Dec 25, 2018 10:50 AM
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Phlegmberry said:
Why is there a RWBY Manga but no RWBY Anime in MAL? Seems illogical to me. I know the production is American but the studio has made the effort to make the show more japanese-like. If there is a mod here, please do something about this if you can.

Sorry if this topic has already been covered somewhere.

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u just answered your question by saying japanese-like

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Dec 25, 2018 12:12 PM
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Same issue with Avatar The last Airbender.
It looks like an anime and the majority of anime fans have already watched it, but it's produced by an American studio sooooo
Dec 25, 2018 3:47 PM
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Funny thing is, we have Chinese production which is not Japan but still is considered to be on the list. What makes this so?
Dec 25, 2018 5:44 PM
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Funny thing is, we have Chinese production which is not Japan but still is considered to be on the list. What makes this so?
general bias anything from korea or china counts as anime, but anything from america canada etc that has the elements of anime is not considered anime.
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Dec 25, 2018 6:56 PM
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hazarddex said:
yuccasnpk said:
Funny thing is, we have Chinese production which is not Japan but still is considered to be on the list. What makes this so?
general bias anything from korea or china counts as anime, but anything from america canada etc that has the elements of anime is not considered anime.

Well now, that's sad.
Dec 26, 2018 1:10 AM
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'Cause this is an anime site not a cartoon site



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Jan 8, 2019 7:31 AM
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'Cause this is an anime site not a cartoon site


Bub, sorry to burst your bubble but
Anime are cartoons.
Jan 9, 2019 3:07 PM
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Well, RWBY isn't an anime, but just looks like one. Though, it would be cool if it were one I guess.
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hazarddex said:
yuccasnpk said:
Funny thing is, we have Chinese production which is not Japan but still is considered to be on the list. What makes this so?
general bias anything from korea or china counts as anime, but anything from america canada etc that has the elements of anime is not considered anime.


seriously, who decide that? who decide what is an anime and what isn't ?
Jan 9, 2019 5:09 PM

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Because RWBY is in the same Gray Area as Avatar. Both may Borrows some Cliches and Tropes from Anime but none of them were made in Japan or any other Asian Country(MAL is not as strict Anymore because of Manwha adaptations). The manga is Made in Japan and Is Seriealized in a manga Magazine. Thats why its here while the Rooster Teeth Show is not.
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Jan 9, 2019 5:21 PM

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it's not japanese but i'd still like to see it on here tbh
Jan 11, 2019 4:46 AM
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I know that RWBY is produced by an American studio. But it has got a japanese dubbing too and the anime is in crunchyroll site. The manga is in MAL so i think It would be nice if the Anime will be here too :)
Jan 11, 2019 5:43 AM

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Um,because it's not anime?
Jan 20, 2019 4:28 PM
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just wait until a japanese studio makes an adaptation of RWBY, then RWBY will be on MAL as an anime and the salt will be glorious
Jan 20, 2019 6:17 PM

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Honestly, they should have it. If they can call shows from China anime despite not being Japanese, then I don't see why they can't have the likes of RWBY and Castlevania.
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I think they may just have just decided to draw the line geographically instead of culturally or aesthetically, because it's a less subjective criterion for administrating a site. The same way government would do in giving legal definition for things like citizenship or the age of majority etc.

The reason why Chinese & Korean production is included while American production is excluded is quite simple: if you have drawn the line geographically, the inclusion of American animation means you will have to include every American production that fall under the technical definition of animation. That means you need to include a vast amount of American cartoon like Disney and Simpsons, and that would dilute the site for a considerable degree. It's not the same case with Chinese and Korean productions.
Jan 27, 2019 3:00 PM

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It's made by Americans, and is aimed at a western audience. It's not anime.

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CHC said:
I think they may just have just decided to draw the line geographically instead of culturally or aesthetically, because it's a less subjective criterion for administrating a site. The same way government would do in giving legal definition for things like citizenship or the age of majority etc.

The reason why Chinese & Korean production is included while American production is excluded is quite simple: if you have drawn the line geographically, the inclusion of American animation means you will have to include every American production that fall under the technical definition of animation. That means you need to include a vast amount of American cartoon like Disney and Simpsons, and that would dilute the site for a considerable degree. It's not the same case with Chinese and Korean productions.


No you don't, only the ones that are clearly anime-inspired such as this one. Anime just means animation; though it refers to the style of Japanese animation, that does not mean it can only be made in Japan.
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CHC said:
I think they may just have just decided to draw the line geographically instead of culturally or aesthetically, because it's a less subjective criterion for administrating a site. The same way government would do in giving legal definition for things like citizenship or the age of majority etc.

The reason why Chinese & Korean production is included while American production is excluded is quite simple: if you have drawn the line geographically, the inclusion of American animation means you will have to include every American production that fall under the technical definition of animation. That means you need to include a vast amount of American cartoon like Disney and Simpsons, and that would dilute the site for a considerable degree. It's not the same case with Chinese and Korean productions.


No you don't, only the ones that are clearly anime-inspired such as this one. Anime just means animation; though it refers to the style of Japanese animation, that does not mean it can only be made in Japan.

I've said it at the beginning: you don't want your bibliographic criteria to be subjective when you're running a site. You don't want the basic logistic of your site to depend on the result of some endless, facile internet debate about style. What counts as "Japanese style" is highly subjective. The style of Astro Boy is arguably closer to Disney than it is to Naruto. The style of Kaima is closer to East European experimental animation of the 70s than it is to Gundam. The style of Panty & Stocking is closer to The Powerpuff Girls than it is to Madoka Magica. You need to set a clear-cut boundary for running a site, and that's why they have chosen to use geographical criterion.
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To be honest, I think the motivation for essentialising "the Japanese style" is usually juvenile: it is usually just teenagers who want to avoid being associated with the kid's shows of Western origin they watched when they were even younger. They have to emphasise what they're watching is "Japanese anime" or "anime-inspired" instead of cartoon because they don't want to be seen as a kid.

But in fact the boundary between Japanese and Western animation is just like the boundary between American TV drama and British TV drama. The only way for you to run a fan site of British TV drama is to give clear-cut geographical definition to what "British TV drama" means. You don't want to corrode your strict boundary by including "British-inspired American TV drama" which will only lead to even more in-between cases (eg. How about "British-inspired-American-TV-drama"-inspired American TV drama?)
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All these arguments are complete and utter trash... Anime in Japan doesn't even mean what it means over here. If we're going to go by arbitrary definitions, then shouldn't ALL cartoons suddenly have to be included, by virtue of that being what anime is in Japan? Let me guess, the answer is going to be no, isn't it? Because this site does NOT give a damn about being culturally deferential to Japan. For one thing, as people have already pointed out, it has anime from outside of Japan already.

It even has the Animatrix! Yes, it's mostly Japanese anime studios who did the animation, but it WAS American in large part directed and written by the Wachowskis! What about Transformers? It's also technically Japanese animated but was mostly an American IP. The site even went out of its way to use the Japanese name, and poster, and lists the Japanese VA's instead of the MUCH more famous American Va's for the G1 Transformers show. This is where things get kind of hypocritical to me. Transformers is NOT an anime, it's just animated by Toei. It's technically a Japanese-American property.

But it's probably not even known by most fans that it was animated in Japan or that it was a joint venture. Why does just being animated in Japan by an anime studio grant Transformers the right to be on MAL, when RWBY which is FAR more anime in style isn't? I mean, it WAS created by a man who was at least part Japanese... Monty Oum was Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese, and Japanese. All clearly Asian countries!

Does the fact that he was born in America suddenly make him no longer Asian? At the very least, it should be called an American anime. But honestly, I find it stupid and immature that people argue about whether it's anime just because it's not from Japan. I mean, Avatar: The Last Airbender is CLEARLY Asian in setting and doesn't even attempt to be an American cartoon. Yet it also gets the same response that because it's not from Japan it can't be called anime. I disagree with that sentiment, strongly.
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RWBY isn't on the database because it doesn't meet MAL's anime DB guidelines.


1. The following entries are allowed in the anime database:
Professionally produced, animated works created:
  • in Japan for the Japanese market;
  • in Korea/China for the Korean/Chinese market;
  • as a joint production between Japan/Korea/China and another country.
    Note: This does not include productions where only the animation is outsourced.
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