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Jan 12, 2018 12:53 PM

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Phraze said:
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@ScarletCelestial
I am really sorry for tunneling you this entire phase, but I think you will understand once we figure this whole thing out.
Also, you should vote Phraze.
mind telling me what u can figure from my lynch?
and if I'm an info lynch, then we should take down someone else along with me.
I'm fine with a lurker. And yes, it's an info lynch, and I do regret it having to come down to this, but it's in town's benefit to figure out how this set up works.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 12:53 PM

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roz1roz said:
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How much are you willing to bet on this?


That sounds inorginal tbh.
But zero. I actually don't see any reason for inestigatives to not repeat except site's meta.
is your opposite thing earlier actually true?
Jan 12, 2018 12:54 PM

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roz1roz said:
RE1031 said:
How much are you willing to bet on this?


That sounds inorginal tbh.
But zero. I actually don't see any reason for inestigatives to not repeat except site's meta.
What about an insane and sane cop? Could those exist in the same set up?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 12:54 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
Phraze said:
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are u vanilla now? host said that claiming vanilla is fine.
Yes.
hmm ok

Jan 12, 2018 12:55 PM

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Vote Count 2.8
Phraze (6): AbuHumaid, TheConquerer, Century_Orion, Tainted, Togs, ScarletCelestial
Tainted (4): riku, yurkin, darcs-friend, darcs-star
ScarletCelestial (1): roz1roz
Century_Orion (1): Phraze
AbuHumaid (1): RE1031

Not voting: @ironace, @YourTrashCan, @Karote


Inverted Tally:


Individual Changes in Votes:


Previous Vote Counts:
Day 1 | 1.0 | 1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | Final | Night 1
Day 2 | 2.0 | 2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.8 | Final | Night 2

Phase Change Timer

Host Notes: 5 mins, guys.



Jan 12, 2018 12:55 PM

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Ohhh... just looked up insane Cop. Maybe?

I thought you were just calling me insane.
Jan 12, 2018 12:55 PM

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Tainted said:
Two tied wagons? No one's gonna break it?


why did u say this then:
Tainted said:
A double lynch would be fine too.
To make up for d1's lynch

Jan 12, 2018 12:56 PM

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oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..
Jan 12, 2018 12:57 PM

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Phraze said:
Tainted said:
Two tied wagons? No one's gonna break it?


why did u say this then:
Tainted said:
A double lynch would be fine too.
To make up for d1's lynch
I don't agree lynching myself.
Jan 12, 2018 12:58 PM

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Ok I'm fine with this lynch. I'm hopeful but I think it comes out good in every scenario.

ScarletCelestial said:
Ohhh... just looked up insane Cop. Maybe?

I thought you were just calling me insane.
Lol, ok I guess I should have tried to communicate more clearly at first
Jan 12, 2018 12:58 PM

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So yes now i get why you saw scarlet as scum, re.
Jan 12, 2018 12:58 PM

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yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..
Yurkin you should read my posts this phase to find out why
Jan 12, 2018 12:59 PM

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yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..


No. Togs also said that they had something on Phraze claiming them scum. So one of our reads are wrong, this is the easiest way to clear who has the correct read.
Jan 12, 2018 12:59 PM

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TIME!



Jan 12, 2018 1:00 PM

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If someone votes double lynch not they are claiming scum.
Jan 12, 2018 1:00 PM

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RE1031 said:
Phraze said:
mind telling me what u can figure from my lynch?
and if I'm an info lynch, then we should take down someone else along with me.
I'm fine with a lurker. And yes, it's an info lynch, and I do regret it having to come down to this, but it's in town's benefit to figure out how this set up works.
iirc I'm the one who's better at figuring out setups
even if my flip will answer questions, wanting me lynched is the same as canceling out the key to figuring the setup
my predictions say the current playerbase aren't likely to get a town win if I die now

Jan 12, 2018 1:01 PM

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I'll just watch RE drill town into the ground again

Jan 12, 2018 1:01 PM

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Final Vote Count
Phraze (6): AbuHumaid, TheConquerer, Century_Orion, Tainted, Togs, ScarletCelestial
Tainted (4): riku, yurkin, darcs-friend, darcs-star
ScarletCelestial (1): roz1roz
Century_Orion (1): Phraze
AbuHumaid (1): RE1031

Not voting: @ironace, @YourTrashCan, @Karote


Inverted Tally:


Individual Changes in Votes:


Previous Vote Counts:
Day 1 | 1.0 | 1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | Final | Night 1
Day 2 | 2.0 | 2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.8 | Final | Night 2

Phase Change Timer



Jan 12, 2018 1:01 PM

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Dang it my phone is 2min away from real time :<
Jan 12, 2018 1:01 PM

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Tainted said:
roz1roz said:


That sounds inorginal tbh.
But zero. I actually don't see any reason for inestigatives to not repeat except site's meta.
is your opposite thing earlier actually true?


Only oposite thing today I said was about healing someone last night.

If you ask about the whole previous day, it was beneficial (actualy it could be in theory, but I decided to not use it after all). I will probably do it again tommorow for a ~reasons~. It all depends on situation tbh.
Jan 12, 2018 1:01 PM

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Phraze said:
I'll just watch RE drill town into the ground again
or maybe its a much needed lesson of life lol

Jan 12, 2018 1:02 PM

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yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..


^ Yeah, that
Jan 12, 2018 1:03 PM

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roz1roz said:
yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..


^ Yeah, that
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist

Jan 12, 2018 1:03 PM

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ScarletCelestial said:
yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..


No. Togs also said that they had something on Phraze claiming them scum. So one of our reads are wrong, this is the easiest way to clear who has the correct read.

quote it.
Jan 12, 2018 1:03 PM

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Phraze said:
roz1roz said:


^ Yeah, that
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist


Are you calling me a newb? Duuuh.
Jan 12, 2018 1:04 PM

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roz1roz said:
yurkin said:
oh wow the cop is voting their own check over the possibility of being insane...what even..


^ Yeah, that
Phraze said:
roz1roz said:


^ Yeah, that
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist
Hello ? Are you guys reading ? There is a guaranteed insane cop here, we want to figure out which one
Jan 12, 2018 1:04 PM

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I'm like so close to rage quitting.

I didn't know what an Insane Cop was until I looked it up when context suggested it a role.

Before that, I just thought RE was calling me insane. As in crazy.
Jan 12, 2018 1:04 PM

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roz1roz said:
Phraze said:
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist


Are you calling me a newb? Duuuh.
Scarlet's the newb

Jan 12, 2018 1:05 PM

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anddd I like my flavor :P
it helped me read some ppl

Jan 12, 2018 1:06 PM

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"What is it that each one of us seeks?
Is it not but happiness and sweetness in our lives?
Yet this suffering, this bitterness, continues,
chipping away our happiness little by little...

Is it pain that we pursue, or something else?
Why so much pain do we have to endure,
why so many of our comrades must fall
prey to their vicious hands?"

Phraze was lynched!
Her role was:


"Who created this living hell of sweets?
It's no longer sweet, nothing but bitter...
This discord and distrust between ourselves -
will we be able to overcome it?

The night draws nigh and the sweets
decide to retreat after the long day,
Hoping that they could escape the pain and death -
or even reconcile with each other..."

Night 2 Starts!

Countdown till the Day

@ironace @Tainted @darc-star @yurkin @roz1roz @Century_Orion @RE1031 @TheConquerer @Karote @AbuHumaid
@riku @Suzune-chan @ScarletCelestial @darcs-friend @YourTrashCan




Jan 12, 2018 1:07 PM

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Togs said:
ScarletCelestial said:


Based on what prior info?
I’m inclined to trust Suzune’s case in hindsight because she’s a good player and I have the benefit of knowing she was town. Plus there’s something role-related. Knowing Phraze’s flip will help me understand something.


@yurkin See the bolded part.

Togs said:
ScarletCelestial said:


Ummm... Togs, I have Cop read on Phraze as Town. They can't be Godfather since they weren't modkilled when they claimed...
Let’s say this.. Either your role is lying, or mine is.
Jan 12, 2018 1:07 PM

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Togs said:
roz1roz said:


^ Yeah, that
Phraze said:
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist
Hello ? Are you guys reading ? There is a guaranteed insane cop here, we want to figure out which one


No, not really.

Silent redirectors.
Cop framer (changes results if targets a cop)
Transporter and one of yours action was strongmaned, second wasn't
One if faction cop with mafia checks, second is with town checks. (results as mafia/not mafia and town/not town are different as TPR shows as not mafia, but not town).

And most probable of all:
One of cops being mafia fakeclaiming.
Jan 12, 2018 1:07 PM

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ScarletCelestial said:
I'm like so close to rage quitting.

I didn't know what an Insane Cop was until I looked it up when context suggested it a role.

Before that, I just thought RE was calling me insane. As in crazy.
it's just RE drinking wine early in the game. she's town along with u.
a bit of advice: ignore any crazy speculations and stick to the facts (like votes and the inverted tally). fearmongering is so not helpful to gamesolving. watch RE on that.

Jan 12, 2018 1:08 PM

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Togs said:
roz1roz said:


^ Yeah, that
Phraze said:
can't blame a newb for thinking insane checks don't exist
Hello ? Are you guys reading ? There is a guaranteed insane cop here, we want to figure out which one

Hello ? One of you is simply lying, guaranteed. Likely you. Since no real town cop would out themselves for no reason whatsoever.
Scum.
Jan 12, 2018 1:09 PM

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roz1roz said:
And most probable of all:
One of cops being mafia fakeclaiming.
Yeah, it's this option. Because I'm definitely sane.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 1:10 PM

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yurkin said:
Togs said:
Hello ? Are you guys reading ? There is a guaranteed insane cop here, we want to figure out which one

Hello ? One of you is simply lying, guaranteed. Likely you. Since no real town cop would out themselves for no reason whatsoever.
Scum.
Togs isn't the cop.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 1:11 PM

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Welp. I'm gonna go sleep.
Jan 12, 2018 1:11 PM

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OK, I guess I'm the crazy one then.
Jan 12, 2018 1:12 PM

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RE1031 said:
yurkin said:

Hello ? One of you is simply lying, guaranteed. Likely you. Since no real town cop would out themselves for no reason whatsoever.
Scum.
Togs isn't the cop.

Then what is he hinting at???
Jan 12, 2018 1:14 PM

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yurkin said:
Togs said:
Hello ? Are you guys reading ? There is a guaranteed insane cop here, we want to figure out which one

Hello ? One of you is simply lying, guaranteed. Likely you. Since no real town cop would out themselves for no reason whatsoever.
Scum.
Your definition of "no reason whatsoever" = an actual guilty check on a player ? Okay. Go ahead and try to lynch me if you think I'm lying, I don't mind.
Jan 12, 2018 1:15 PM

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yurkin said:
RE1031 said:
Togs isn't the cop.

Then what is he hinting at???
At Scarlet being the insane cop and someone else being the sane cop. But this is now an impossibility.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 1:16 PM

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Togs said:
OK, I guess I'm the crazy one then.
Well, this is interesting.
Let me rephrase my question from before: what are the chances there could be at least 3 of the same role in this game?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 1:17 PM

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I'm going to go. I'm tired and freaking out. If you want me to answer any questions, please ping me for the morning.

I might not be on as much as I would like tomorrow, because aforementioned birthday. I don't think anything's planned, but there might be a surprise.
Jan 12, 2018 1:17 PM

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Yes ok doable.
Since phraze was getting lynched either way it IS claiming for no reason.
Even more so there is a claim of vanilized now cop.
Jan 12, 2018 1:18 PM

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RE1031 said:
Togs said:
OK, I guess I'm the crazy one then.
Well, this is interesting.
Let me rephrase my question from before: what are the chances there could be at least 3 of the same role in this game?
Oh... okay now that makes some things make more sense to me.

I think very low chance of them all being the same role, but high chance they were all told they were the same role.
Jan 12, 2018 1:20 PM

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Togs said:
RE1031 said:
Well, this is interesting.
Let me rephrase my question from before: what are the chances there could be at least 3 of the same role in this game?
Oh... okay now that makes some things make more sense to me.

I think very low chance of them all being the same role, but high chance they were all told they were the same role.
How would you explain the information they received?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Jan 12, 2018 1:22 PM

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yurkin said:
Yes ok doable.
Since phraze was getting lynched either way it IS claiming for no reason.
Even more so there is a claim of vanilized now cop.
Uh.. votes were tied up. And a cop in this setup is a lot different than say, a cop in a basic because of sanities. When the sanity is unknown you have to communicate to figure that out to make your role actually worth something.
Jan 12, 2018 1:23 PM
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I kinda knew that Phraze was town at last.
Jan 12, 2018 1:25 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
I kinda knew that Phraze was town at last.


Someone shoot that tbh.
Oh wait.
Jan 12, 2018 1:26 PM
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roz1roz said:
AbuHumaid said:
I kinda knew that Phraze was town at last.


Someone shoot that tbh.
Oh wait.
???
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