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Feb 17, 2020 2:56 AM

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All the anime-only watchers are in for a treat when they see the Ganja story, lmao, that got disturbing as hell



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Mar 29, 2020 12:39 AM
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Berserk has some scenes where Schierke is naked or blushes in front of Guts

Alien 9 and Milk Closet have a similar vibe due to the design but they are even more awesome and disturbing.
But if it is the design that is the issue, I. Asano also made a realistic manga where two underage students are having sex and have other fetishes too.

Also do not try to read other manga by the creator of Shojo Tsubaki.In a specific scene involving children you will be left speechless, though it is more a surrealistic scene rather than scifi or fantasy.

Even American comics like Black Hole by C, Burns have disturbing scenes with underage teens.

Also the torture scene is much more tense in the anime compared to the manga. Imagine how a specific torture scene in the second part will be like, though viewers will probably be already used to it


May 21, 2020 11:40 PM

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no more disturbing than any guroporn out there, and things have gotte quite Franken Fran somewhere around chapters 30-something if you know what I mean
May 24, 2020 7:43 AM

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It gets more into torture porn the further you read. I’m not into that kind of thing, especially if there’s kids involved so yeah, the author clearly has some inclinations. At the same time I really want to know the secrets of the abyss, so I try to overlook the weird shit, such as Prushka’s joke “oh, you mean Papa’s rod?” Haha, such a funny joke...not. He doesn’t even try to be subtle, by the end of the arc he draws a scene of Prushka squeezing her nude tits for no reason...But it’s Japan, nothing will be done about it. As anime fans we just accept to ignore, avoid (or enjoy) this kind of thing.

Edit: I agree kids have curiosities and jokes which adults sexualise when in fact it’s not like that at all. BUT...MiA has gone BEYOND that. We can’t deny that this appeals to a certain group of people. Yet, this gore and torture somewhat makes the danger of the abyss all the more real. It isn’t a place for children, it’s one of the biggest dangerous mysteries in the world. So we should never have expected a cute adventure. Still, can’t be denied the author is using that premise to squeeze some of his tastes in there.
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Jun 7, 2020 9:38 AM

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Made in Abyss has good world building but the characters are pretty uninteresting and yeah, I don't like the sexual innuendos, either, but I am kind of desensualized when it comes to it... I mean, try reading Subarashiki Hibi and then let's have a talk again about what is really disturbing.
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I think it's weird that people make such a big deal about the fact that girls poop
Oct 22, 2020 9:53 PM
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I agree that is a bit disturbing how some of the younger characters are drawn. Just look at Prucsca's character design, she is around 12 years old and her breasts are poking out of her like she is a well-endowed adult. That's not even mentioning the multiple shots of her practically naked with her whole upper body being visible. I was searching her wiki page and I found a link to an image of her that was put in as a back page of a volume, https://imgur.com/a/JkO0LKI, it is genuinely disgusting how much detail he put into drawing a naked 12 year old.

[The link doesn't seem to work, so just go to this page and scroll down to the comments where I found the image link https://madeinabyss.fandom.com/wiki/Prushka]

Regardless, Made in Abyss is still a great manga, whether it be because of it's amazing worldbuilding and it's ever-looming sense of dread. Though my opinion of the manga would be higher if it didn't have so much loli sexualisation, it makes me a bit disgusted at times and I can't help it. Unfortunately, seeing as the latest arc has brought in probably the most sexualised loli character yet by far, I don't think he is going to stop the loli sexualisation anytime soon.
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-Kami_sama- said:
I agree that is a bit disturbing how some of the younger characters are drawn. Just look at Prucsca's character design, she is around 12 years old and her breasts are poking out of her like she is a well-endowed adult. That's not even mentioning the multiple shots of her practically naked with her whole upper body being visible. I was searching her wiki page and I found a link to an image of her that was put in as a back page of a volume, https://imgur.com/a/JkO0LKI, it is genuinely disgusting how much detail he put into drawing a naked 12 year old.

[The link doesn't seem to work, so just go to this page and scroll down to the comments where I found the image link https://madeinabyss.fandom.com/wiki/Prushka]

Regardless, Made in Abyss is still a great manga, whether it be because of it's amazing worldbuildng and it's ever-looming sense of dread. Though my opinion of the manga would be higher if it didn't have so much loli sexualisation, it makes me a bit disgusted at times and I can't help it. Unfortunately, seeing as the latest arc has brought in probably the most sexualised loli character yet by far, I don't think he is going to stop the loli sexualisation anytime soon.
yeah back cover pages have that kind of stuff i there was even one of riko also are you talking about
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YES! At the beggning I was like 'yeah whatever, bondaged naked kids are weird but ok'. However with every next scene like this I was like WTF. I really like the story and I'm interested in this world. But, oh man, I'm not sure if I'll be able to finish this manga...
I was so disturbed, that I even started looking for this thread here to share it lol.
Mar 20, 2021 12:04 PM
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If you’re more disturbed by mild, unsexualized nudity than you are about the multiple characters whose bodies literally fall apart, then that says more about you than it does the work.
Mar 22, 2021 9:27 AM

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You don't like the manga and anime, yeah right we got it.

Also no, "western view" is what puts bad light on anime.


this is years old but I couldn't pass on how fucking stupid this reply is
Mar 28, 2021 7:44 PM
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Mangas like this are what really put anime in a bad light in western view

And who are you to impose your "western view" on a foreign medium? If you hate it so much, it probably wasn't made for you. Or are you so arrogant that you believe that things not made specifically for you should not exist?
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Qans said:
...but it started getting more and more disturbing as the manga artist's hard on of drawing uncensored undeveloped naked little girls/boys wetting the bed/shitting (yes shitting and pissing, more than once) and other sexual interactions every chance he gets become more and more prevalent...


Hi man, for research purpose as an anime onlies, I'd like to know which chapter.
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You're definitely not the only one. I was really excited to read the latest arc and... listen, I'd already been disturbed by some of the stuff (nudity/sexuality) involving kids in earlier chapters. But this arc really broke me. Implying sex between Faputa and Reg. The continued interest in Reg's penis. Actually, just the continued interest of young girls in penises ("papa pole", anyone?). The whole... "impregnation" thing with Irumyuui. It honestly made me sad/disgusted that part of the main backstory of the village was how a literal CHILD wished more than anything to be able to give birth... and she was giving birth for who knows how long. It reminds me of some really out there hentai, not to mention cult child bride mentality.

I came into the arc expecting really cool adventures in the 6th layer, maybe even running into Lyza or some of the other white whistles. I left disappointed and disturbed by a nearly nonsensical plot fluffed up with furry loli porn.
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Just wanted to reply to this thread since I just pushed through the second half of season one of the anime (haven't touched the manga, just FYI)

I don't think it's enough to say "it makes sense with the story" or "it adds realness". This piece puts child characters in situations where they are sexually objectified, tortured, or put into disgusting scenarios that an adult man came up with and is being paid to create

Why did "Mitty" need to literally be encasing all of Riko for like 3 episodes. Some people say "horror", "it's supposed to make you feel uncomfortable". I call bullshit on that; there is very clear fetishism on display in this piece, and it's a very weird rollercoaster of beautiful music and weird fetish scenarios that add a repulsive tinge to what could be powerful scenes.

Why was Mitty, who is around 11/12 fully developed and has her asscrack showing in multiple scenes (she's wearing a miniskirt and a band around her chest, essentially). This is sexualizing a 12 year old.

I'm tired of "oh anime" being an excuse. At what point do you say this is not cool

I have watched so many animes where the 10 year old is actually a 30 year old witch or some garbage like that, but this one felt soaked in it (literally).

In the second half of the final episode, I was like phew this is nice actually; Mitty is dead, we're in a beautiful green area with nice music playing and then we cut to Nanachi pulling mushrooms off of Riko and Riko pissing herself in pain... (the second time she pisses herself in this episode, alone)

Weirdly, Riko is somewhat nonplussed about waking up and seeing Reg again, but she sure as hell rubs against Nanachi (who she's just meeting the same day) and caressing her neck (with an uncomfortable amount of animation and attention put into it) while both of them blush.. ??

The culmination of the first season was essentially torture/gore porn against Mitty, a well endowed 12 year old who is mutilated and put into a story where she is trapped in flesh and can't die. I was so relieved once Mitty was dead.. and not because there was any sort of emotional attachment to the story or the characters, but because the whole premise was wrong.

I don't know what else to add other than.. I really hope this series loses traction. This feels like it panders to an audience that is harmful to actual children. I understand if the overall concept of the series is compelling, but you have to realize this is reaching a wider audience than those interested in just the 'cool' parts.

This show is clearly for adults, right? Why do you think all of the main characters are underage kids, except the antagonists who are adults? If your answer is "because it fits the story" or "it's just the style" then ask yourself why the story was written that way with the knowledge that they'd be tortured, put into sexually suggestive scenarios, and manipulated by the main antagonist (an adult) Bondrewd (aka the author's in-world avatar).

Edit: I just watched a trailer for Dawn of the Deep Soul and even in that minute-long clip you can see it. There's a scene where a younger Nanachi is being manhandled by a bunch of adults and another where Gen is completely naked and has a device connected to his penis, surrounded by adults. How does no one else seem to pick up on this or care that children are portrayed this way?
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Just wanted to reply to this thread since I just pushed through the second half of season one of the anime.....


Did it disgust you? Did it make you empathize with main characters? Mission Accomplished.

If they were adults in the story, it wouldn't be successful to the masses. Most people are desensitized to the suffering of others. Adults are expected to just 'suck it up'. Just look at online forums where any problem you have is met with "cry more bitch" or "suck to be you Im good :)". Now those same forum goers are adults and are controlling Political discourse. But if you have the same things happen to children? All bets are off.

The feelings of empathy everyone is supposed to have for all people kick in, and they get angry. "How can you do this?". Exactly. How? Why is this happening? That world is fucked up and this was an effective way to show it.
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Wow, Really? That's Amazingly Stupid! Too bad you've been ignored, I might have actually read that and laughed at you again.
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your not the only one disturbed by this trust me. especially those extra fanservice pages with naked children doing suggestive things. it honesty sucks ass because the manga is amazing
Dec 14, 2021 9:17 AM

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There were a couple of moments, but I didn’t think it was that disturbing
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Dec 14, 2021 11:34 AM

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IDK why people get so upset about the pooping and peeing. Most adventure stories gloss over such embarrassing moments that would inevitably arise when you're traveling long distances on foot with companions.
Jan 12, 2022 1:19 PM
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I didn't really notice those details. I guess it was because I was "speedrunning" reading this manga lol.
Jan 29, 2022 7:51 AM
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Couldn't care less about fictional characters
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Are you caught up in the manga? Just curious.
Yeah the toilet scene is unnecessary, probably a few others too.
Generally, the story seems to be a hugely inverted fairy tale with complete loss of innocence so it makes sense the kids are 10-12. You regularly see kids getting tortured in un fathomable ways… and dismemberment, but you do not find that as bothersome as the nudity and penis jokes? The nudity is hand in hand with the gore and dismemberment, and the general theme of pushing through the most fucked up world the author could imagine. I find it strange that you cherry pick the nudity out of this manga, when at ch 80 we have seen so much more traumatic shit. I think this manga is not for you, especially if you are not caught up, you don’t know what you’re in for and it’s a lot worse then a half naked young girl. You want some parts of the Authors depraved mind, but not all of it.
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I find it strange that you cherry pick the nudity out of this manga, when at ch 80 we have seen so much more traumatic shit. I think this manga is not for you, especially if you are not caught up, you don’t know what you’re in for and it’s a lot worse then a half naked young girl. You want some parts of the Authors depraved mind, but not all of it.


They are just a standard narrow-minded idiot stuck in with no self-awareness like so many others in this thread. Other people's sensibilities are to be mocked, but their personal ones must to be followed to the letter else they rage the fuck out.

"Gratuitous violence, torture, and mental trauma? Cry more SNOWFLAKE! But don't you dare show a penis or peeing! That's GROSS!!" -MiA Hater

How do I know? Go look at all the most vocal haters Favorites List. They're always filled with fucked up shit like BERSERK!, Hellsing, Attack on Titan, Perfect Blue, Uzumaki and so on..lmao.
xMutinyxFeb 12, 2022 11:44 PM
Wow, Really? That's Amazingly Stupid! Too bad you've been ignored, I might have actually read that and laughed at you again.
Feb 18, 2022 4:20 PM
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The scene that really, really disturbed me was that one awful scene with Reg in the movie.

Other than that, some jokes are unnecessary, but kids make a lot of dumb penis jokes and are naturally curious about each other.
Also they don't seem to live or come from a society that blames nudeness and all.

It's just too much at some points.
Or better saying: that one Reg scene was too much...
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well the author is a weird person and got some kind of weird fetish to put on his work, its there, doesnt affect the story but is just well something that doesnt ruin a dish but would be left kinda disturbed, i myself didnt care about them and only care about the story and world building skills the author pulls, he's talented and a genius ! i'm a fan of this work and even if i dont like the fetishy loli scenes im still immersed by the adventure and dont let such details touch an ounce of it, the dark part however is a nice touch to set up the tone
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It was made that way, on purpose. Now, don´t get me wrong, series like this one and Mushoku Tensei could be a lot better if they dropped the pointless fanservice and self insert fetishes, but I guess they did it for attention.

I kinda like MiA and I´m far away from being a white knight, but I just can´t ignore how much potential is being thrown to the absolute garbage because the author feels this need of putting a torture scene every 2 chapters. Sure, pain and suffering are bad, but it just become tasteless the more you are exposed to it. Berserk did that shit back in the Lost Children arc and that´s by far the worse part of the story, just a bunch of edgy panels with no story and a bunch of shock vale.

TLDR the author is doing it because he is a sick fuck, and it draws a lot of attention, although this manga could be an absolute masterpiece if the dude decided to put effort into the story, rather than the BDSM.
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Holy shit! I didn't know that about the manga LOL

It's settled then, I'm gonna read the manga first and then watch the anime. I don't give a shit about loli/shota but urination/scat/puke disgusts me. That means more shock value though, and I like overly fucked up shit anyway even if it makes me want to stop eating the next day.

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It was made that way, on purpose. Now, don´t get me wrong, series like this one and Mushoku Tensei could be a lot better if they dropped the pointless fanservice and self insert fetishes, but I guess they did it for attention.

I kinda like MiA and I´m far away from being a white knight, but I just can´t ignore how much potential is being thrown to the absolute garbage because the author feels this need of putting a torture scene every 2 chapters. Sure, pain and suffering are bad, but it just become tasteless the more you are exposed to it. Berserk did that shit back in the Lost Children arc and that´s by far the worse part of the story, just a bunch of edgy panels with no story and a bunch of shock vale.

TLDR the author is doing it because he is a sick fuck, and it draws a lot of attention, although this manga could be an absolute masterpiece if the dude decided to put effort into the story, rather than the BDSM.


Huh. All the more reason to read it, then. I'm a fan of guro and I like to consume fucked up media but when something is done only for the sake of shock value and nothing else or is completely unnecessary and said unnecessary scenes are overdone, I agree that it becomes tasteless and the impact of the scenes drops significantly.
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