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Aug 10, 2017 8:20 AM

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logic340 said:
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And I'm not sure amai would be ballsy enough to fake-claim like this as scum. it's now a her word against ironace's situation, which is something scum tend to avoid. Another thing is how ironace constantly accused people of being TPR. I've seen this happen in other games, where scum accuse people they "suspect" as TPR, because they're already mafia themselves and now said person can't be mafia.
normally I would agree with you but considering we are in lylo this is the perfect time for scum to make that type of move. The timing of the claim after having no behavior for the entire game is what makes me question it everything we needed to win the game just fell right into amai's lap? This us why I want people's thoughts on floofs? If we feel like floof's is town then this information should be trustworthy?
Again it's really annoying how you don't analyse me separately from floof. You don't even know if we are the within the same meta. I find it weird that Luna/Iron are voting together. It's kind of scummy even which is why I think they are together.
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logic340 said:
@Luna your thoughts on coro
@Amai_yume your thoughts on coro, do you still town read Luna, and what was your iron Ace read before you got your results?

I think there is a small chance she can be scum instead of Luna. I would switch if I saw more scummy behavior from coro. Iron was a null read.
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logic340 said:
@Luna and @Amai_yume you two need to explain why you were so against my Abu read. I want to honor his memory an lynch Luna for him as she is the most connected.

I have a whole list of posts made by Abu that look anti-town to me. But I don't think it would be helpful to continue talking about this now, I would like to focus on the remaining players.

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@Luna your thoughts on coro

There's some things I need to read again, will post more soon.
Aug 10, 2017 10:07 AM
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Amai_yume said:
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amai you lost
I had no need to see logic as he was confirmed town. I ''visited''luna
vote:amai_yume


I saw it though since Abu obviously died protecting Logic. It makes the most sense logically.

This is actually not obvious. Abu could have been killed directly after he claimed to be the bodyguard. And the situation could be used to frame another player.

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Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to.
pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic.
amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!!

How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read.

So here you're leaning towards coro as ironace's scumpartner because you're town reading me.

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My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out.

You're basing your case against ironace solely on your "evidence", not on reads.
And how would past games help you find out that? Ironace and me have never played before together. Every game is different too and depends on setup/the combination of players/how the roles are distributed.

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@amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time.
If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna?

With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites.

And here you're suddenly changing from coro to me and say I'm more likely to be ironace's scum partner. How the sudden change when before you said you'd have to read past games to figure it out?
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coromandel said:
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I was kinda taken aback there because people usually tend to scum read me due to a single post. And this time I hadn't even posted so I was like. .. ok...
If you want a serious reply...your not getting it :p

Why did I not get a serious reply to my question? Why would a townie say this to me? I don't get this at all, because if I was town and someone asked me this, "you're not getting a serious reply" would be the last thing on my mind.

So now you're calling him out on his "you're not getting a serious reply" and are saying it's not something a townie would say. But before you said something completely different:

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now that we've had time to stew on his response do you feel there's anything alignment indicative there? If so which direction are you going?

Not really, there are some parts that feel like they're coming from a town-mindset (refusal to reply looks like stubborn town, because in general, I feel scum are trying to stay on people's good side). But his post about NL seems pretty passive, and I'm sensing a lack of interest when it comes to scum-hunting. I'm still trying to figure him out.


Looks to me like you're now trying to find a reason to make him look bad.

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ironace's vote for Luna is actually pretty interesting. He was the 4th person on her train and said:
"Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games)"

This could be scum bussing their partner. 4th person on the train, emphasizes that he was "just" thinking of voting for luna "as well", like the others.
His reason for voting her doesn't make much sense to me.
He says her method seems unnatural from the norm he's used to, but with only 2 completed games, that doesn't seem like a strong reason - which he's aware of. So why vote her out of everyone?

Why would he bus their partner in this situation? Assuming you mean that he planned on helping getting me lynched to gain town cred. There was absolutely no need to do this and it would have just made things harder for him once he was alone. This theory seems pretty far fetched to me.
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coromandel said:
And I'm leaning towards ironace/Luna, because if I was voting for amai now as well, everyone would be voting for her except for herself.

What kind of reason is that? You could also just not voting her because she's your mafia buddy.
With how you're trying to stir things into the direction ironace/Luna with very weird reasons and how Amai suddenly changed from town reading me to saying I'm scum without giving proper reasons, I'm starting to believe that it's actually coro/Amai.

I still need to have a closer look at ironace though, I didn't forget about him.
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Amai_yume said:
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normally I would agree with you but considering we are in lylo this is the perfect time for scum to make that type of move. The timing of the claim after having no behavior for the entire game is what makes me question it everything we needed to win the game just fell right into amai's lap? This us why I want people's thoughts on floofs? If we feel like floof's is town then this information should be trustworthy?
Again it's really annoying how you don't analyse me separately from floof. You don't even know if we are the within the same meta. I find it weird that Luna/Iron are voting together. It's kind of scummy even which is why I think they are together.
if I analyze you separate from floofs then I will vote for you and that's just what it's going to be is that what you would like me to do? I have a slight Town read on floofs I have a scam read on you.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:28 AM

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Luna said:
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@Luna and @Amai_yume you two need to explain why you were so against my Abu read. I want to honor his memory an lynch Luna for him as she is the most connected.

I have a whole list of posts made by Abu that look anti-town to me. But I don't think it would be helpful to continue talking about this now, I would like to focus on the remaining players.

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@Luna your thoughts on coro

There's some things I need to read again, will post more soon.
there's a difference between looking anti town and actually being anti town. That is what my posts were trying to get you to see that there is an actual mindset A-Town to mindset to what Abu was doing but you refuse to listen to me. This is my problem now I need you all to look at who has a mindset that is invested in towns interest and who's is not. When I look at that I come to two people who are not in the interest of town Luna and Amai.
Where is the town line set in refusing to claim in hiding behind Mass claim where is the town line set and not sharing any thoughts until it's time to reveal information these are two of the big issues I have with the both of you. Rather than work with town I feel like you were both fought me on it and if you're both town then we deserve to lose.
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It's so obvious that coromandel s trying to protect amai.
Bringing back topics that were long considered over.
I laready said why I didn't reply seriously.he is suddenly bringing it back up...
And it's true that I thought that the day still had time so I was commenting like that...asking logic questions.
Then I looked back and saw that the day was over and I felt stupid for missing out..
@logic340
Please,don't let coromandel sow the seeds of doubt in your mind. I'm town.vote for amai.hell,vote for coromandel even.
Aug 10, 2017 11:32 AM

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Luna said:
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And I'm leaning towards ironace/Luna, because if I was voting for amai now as well, everyone would be voting for her except for herself.

What kind of reason is that? You could also just not voting her because she's your mafia buddy.
With how you're trying to stir things into the direction ironace/Luna with very weird reasons and how Amai suddenly changed from town reading me to saying I'm scum without giving proper reasons, I'm starting to believe that it's actually coro/Amai.

I still need to have a closer look at ironace though, I didn't forget about him.
this it's well put.
Coro/Amai feels real, hoping to look at this day from the beginning slowly.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:34 AM

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Amai_yume said:
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@Luna your thoughts on coro
@Amai_yume your thoughts on coro, do you still town read Luna, and what was your iron Ace read before you got your results?

I think there is a small chance she can be scum instead of Luna. I would switch if I saw more scummy behavior from coro. Iron was a null read.
aren't scum not trying to look scummy though? Like scum hide among the town by not doing scummy things. So playing a really clean game can be indicative of scum as well I really need more from you as I cannot follow your mindset here.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:35 AM

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ironace said:
It's so obvious that coromandel s trying to protect amai.
Bringing back topics that were long considered over.
I laready said why I didn't reply seriously.he is suddenly bringing it back up...
And it's true that I thought that the day still had time so I was commenting like that...asking logic questions.
Then I looked back and saw that the day was over and I felt stupid for missing out..
@logic340
Please,don't let coromandel sow the seeds of doubt in your mind. I'm town.vote for amai.hell,vote for coromandel even.
I just want any of these 2 to be lynched.
Aug 10, 2017 11:37 AM

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I had a quite a bad day today so I didn't talk more,ask me questions and I'll try my best to answere them.
Aug 10, 2017 11:44 AM

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I'm at the eye doctor and currently can't see much I will respond to more when I get done here
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Aug 10, 2017 1:48 PM

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@Amai_yume how did you go from town Luna off tone and thought process to scum Luna?
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@Amai_yume You asked me to do you separate from Floofs I told you how I feel about that but I will revisit it for the sake of being thorough.

I need you to answer all the questions I have asked you to this point so that I can make a better read than whatever I will be posting here shortly.
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Aug 10, 2017 5:51 PM

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I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FRREEEEEDDDOOOOMMMM FROM MY 11 WEEK TEXAS POLITICS COURSE THAT TOOK AWAY MY SUMMER
Aug 10, 2017 6:57 PM

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I don't like Amai's entrance. How do you feel about her question to Abu?

Amai's only actions so far were
1. Asking Abu a question (which he hasn't answered)
2. Replying to logic once, not answering his question about how she feels about Abu
3. Not voting for anyone

Maybe she just didn't have a lot of time, but I find these things weird, especially the first 2 points. Asking Abu of all players seems a bit... like she tried to talk to her mafia buddy to make it seem like they're not connected, but then when a question about Abu was asked, she couldn't answer it, was trying to avoid the question.
setting up mislynches?
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Mostly because red i thought to be scum and I can see why people would think so.though I'm too lazy to talk more right now~~~

See yall later folks

Wait, you're leaving because you're too lazy to talk right now? What kind of mindset is that?
@coromandel I really don't think they can be partners
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Aug 10, 2017 7:08 PM

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I'm always here if anyone wants to chat
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Aug 10, 2017 8:12 PM

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Is there an easy way to ISO here without looking at each and every page?
Aug 10, 2017 8:43 PM

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Riddle me this. If ironace is scum RB why not RB Abu and kill me last night?
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what in particular about her analysis says town? Have you gone over any of my posts about her day one?

She explains her thoughts well and I for one think her tone is genuine. Yes, I have.
To this point do you feel like you had explained your though process well?
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Aug 10, 2017 8:47 PM

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Amai_yume said:
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1. I'm not avoiding you're questions and I've given my thoughts on who I feel good about. It's also only been us two so far when I do have time for the thread. I want interactions with the others too in real time.

2. I was busy yesterday with a guest and class (college). I will respond when I do have time. I will be back later have to attend to pre-bug specialist tasks.

1. reading back through it still feels that way to me. I mean I got the most minimal answers to the questions I asked and then during the night phase I hounded you about abu before he flipped town with no reply.
2. This is OoG and nothing I can judge you on. What I can judge you on is your contribution. I will be honest if I was going to vote for ironace right now it would be on the strength of Floofs EoD1 because I am still not seeing why you think I should feel what you are doing is town motivated to this point.
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Amai_yume said:
Is there an easy way to ISO here without looking at each and every page?
Sadly no there isn't here. MAL is archaic in that regard.
CTRL + F to find what you are looking for on the page.
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coromandel said:
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can someone talk to me about this please

lol.. my head is spinning after reading this. x3
I'll come back to this later, logic.
Did you ever come back to this?
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@Togs New vote count please.
I feel like this needs to be done/
Vote: coromandel
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Aug 10, 2017 9:06 PM

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12 hours people it's crunch time.
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Aug 10, 2017 9:15 PM

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Can anyone guess why I am currently voting for Coro?
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Amai_yume said:
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I already claimed i was role blocker, and i had asked people who to RB last night luna was quite a popular opinion, so i RB-ed her.
Im town, so i cannot kill others and thus, you gave yourself away by saying i visited logic.

My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out.
What did reading of past games turn up?
I don't think it would tell me anything about Luna and I have played in the two games that ironace has played in so you could always ask my opinion.
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Vote Count 3.4

Amai_yume (2): Luna, Ironace
Luna (1): Coromandel
Ironace (1): Amai_yume
Coromandel (1): Logic340

Not Voting (0): ~

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Amai has only quoted me or ironace.
We know they are not teams with either but no direct conversation with coro or Luna?
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@Amai_yume you were just online why didn't you take a real time interaction with me?
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@coromandel, @Amai_yume, @Luna, @ironace
I want a very detailed explanation of why your vote is where it is right now.
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logic340 said:
@coromandel, @Amai_yume, @Luna, @ironace
I want a very detailed explanation of why your vote is where it is right now.


I dont need to give a detailed explanation. I was banging my head when i found out that red was town. I was going to go after luna the next day but when i finally came back to d3, i sqaw amai claiming and saying i visited you-which i didnt. I seriously thank amai for giving herself out and i am sure she is scum.
No other reason required.
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4.5'hours outsole let's get it together
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logic340 said:
Riddle me this. If ironace is scum RB why not RB Abu and kill me last night?

A real convienient plan for scum would be to role block Abu
have ace's partner clear ace by saying they were role blocked and then lead the final mislynch with everyone having a 50% chance if lynching scum instead of 66%.
I am really having a hard time seeing ironace as scum here
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Aug 11, 2017 6:15 AM
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My thoughts on Floofs/Amai_yume:


Floofs:



Amai:
Aug 11, 2017 6:26 AM

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ironace said:
all caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive
unvote
Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games)
Vote:luna
this seems like a good place to start.

Also, may i ask why do you people get scum vibes from salmon?
S/S interaction putting hit teammate all the way up to 4 votes? I find this hard to believe @coromandel
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logic340 said:
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all caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive
unvote
Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games)
Vote:luna
this seems like a good place to start.

Also, may i ask why do you people get scum vibes from salmon?
S/S interaction putting hit teammate all the way up to 4 votes? I find this hard to believe @coromandel


i have got no idea what you just said
Aug 11, 2017 6:44 AM

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@logic340
your reason for voting coro?
It doesnt matter though since both are scum~~~
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ironace said:
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S/S interaction putting hit teammate all the way up to 4 votes? I find this hard to believe @coromandel


i have got no idea what you just said

S/S=Scum/Scum I am questioning coro about saying she feels you and Luna could be a team.
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ironace said:
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your reason for voting coro?
It doesn't matter though since both are scum~~~
Noted this response but I do have a reason and a good one. Care to guess.
I will share my reason in the next 45 minutes as I setup my thoughts for how this lynch should go.
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coromandel said:
What's scummy about Luna? I don't really see it. So what if she posted more fluff than others at the beginning?
She hasn't played in a while and isn't familiar with the playerbase.

The only thing I don't understand is why she's persistent about ironace's FOS question.

I can see myself moving my vote to Floofs or Red_Salmon. I feel like I can't get a good read on them with how little they've said so far. And I'd still like to know RE's reason for suspecting me and Luna, because I only see a case of disagreement, but not a convincing reason for suspecting us.


@Red_Salmon
Why did you unvote earlier?
This post is like the definition of going for LHF. At this point they are the lowest posters in the game.
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My thoughts about coromandel. I can't comment all the posts, but here's the most important things that I noticed:

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logic340 said:
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your reason for voting coro?
It doesn't matter though since both are scum~~~
Noted this response but I do have a reason and a good one. Care to guess.
I will share my reason in the next 45 minutes as I setup my thoughts for how this lynch should go.

...you believe me that coro is scum??? lol i have no idea. Enlighten me
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My thoughts about coromandel. I can't comment all the posts, but here's the most important things that I noticed:



Because of his constant back and forth readings and going everywhere, i thought he was tpr. But being scum makes more sense
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coromandel said:
hmm.. it's the people who aren't posting atm that I'm most interested in. >.>
Vote change: Floofs


Idk if it's too early to unvote ironace, but I'm hoping this will make Floofs post more and give me an answer to the question I asked her earlier.
I wish this screamed unaligned pair but alas.....
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Coro-Scum Lean
Here is why I suspect her
#443 "To me, it's between Salmon/Abu/Floofs/ironace" That's literally more than 50% of the players. Very passive. Maybe you're scum and you know all of these guys are town and are worthy lynch victims.
#443 votes ironace ==> #470 votes floofs ==> #492 votes me
Either she's town who's just pissed at inactives (I can understand, sorry tho) or she's just being a passive scum. Going back and forth. Gaining townie points.

vote:Coromandel
starting to think he was onto something.
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