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Aug 10, 2017 8:20 AM
#951
logic340 said: Again it's really annoying how you don't analyse me separately from floof. You don't even know if we are the within the same meta. I find it weird that Luna/Iron are voting together. It's kind of scummy even which is why I think they are together.coromandel said: normally I would agree with you but considering we are in lylo this is the perfect time for scum to make that type of move. The timing of the claim after having no behavior for the entire game is what makes me question it everything we needed to win the game just fell right into amai's lap? This us why I want people's thoughts on floofs? If we feel like floof's is town then this information should be trustworthy?And I'm not sure amai would be ballsy enough to fake-claim like this as scum. it's now a her word against ironace's situation, which is something scum tend to avoid. Another thing is how ironace constantly accused people of being TPR. I've seen this happen in other games, where scum accuse people they "suspect" as TPR, because they're already mafia themselves and now said person can't be mafia. |
Aug 10, 2017 8:51 AM
#952
logic340 said: @Luna your thoughts on coro @Amai_yume your thoughts on coro, do you still town read Luna, and what was your iron Ace read before you got your results? I think there is a small chance she can be scum instead of Luna. I would switch if I saw more scummy behavior from coro. Iron was a null read. |
Aug 10, 2017 9:35 AM
#953
logic340 said: @Luna and @Amai_yume you two need to explain why you were so against my Abu read. I want to honor his memory an lynch Luna for him as she is the most connected. I have a whole list of posts made by Abu that look anti-town to me. But I don't think it would be helpful to continue talking about this now, I would like to focus on the remaining players. There's some things I need to read again, will post more soon. |
Aug 10, 2017 10:07 AM
#954
Amai_yume said: ironace said: hahahahahahahhahahahahah amai you lost I had no need to see logic as he was confirmed town. I ''visited''luna vote:amai_yume I saw it though since Abu obviously died protecting Logic. It makes the most sense logically. This is actually not obvious. Abu could have been killed directly after he claimed to be the bodyguard. And the situation could be used to frame another player. Amai_yume said: ironace said: Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to. pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic. amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!! How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read. So here you're leaning towards coro as ironace's scumpartner because you're town reading me. Amai_yume said: My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out. You're basing your case against ironace solely on your "evidence", not on reads. And how would past games help you find out that? Ironace and me have never played before together. Every game is different too and depends on setup/the combination of players/how the roles are distributed. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: @amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time. If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna? With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites. And here you're suddenly changing from coro to me and say I'm more likely to be ironace's scum partner. How the sudden change when before you said you'd have to read past games to figure it out? |
Aug 10, 2017 10:22 AM
#955
coromandel said: ironace said: @coromandel I was kinda taken aback there because people usually tend to scum read me due to a single post. And this time I hadn't even posted so I was like. .. ok... If you want a serious reply...your not getting it :p Why did I not get a serious reply to my question? Why would a townie say this to me? I don't get this at all, because if I was town and someone asked me this, "you're not getting a serious reply" would be the last thing on my mind. So now you're calling him out on his "you're not getting a serious reply" and are saying it's not something a townie would say. But before you said something completely different: coromandel said: logic340 said: now that we've had time to stew on his response do you feel there's anything alignment indicative there? If so which direction are you going? Not really, there are some parts that feel like they're coming from a town-mindset (refusal to reply looks like stubborn town, because in general, I feel scum are trying to stay on people's good side). But his post about NL seems pretty passive, and I'm sensing a lack of interest when it comes to scum-hunting. I'm still trying to figure him out. Looks to me like you're now trying to find a reason to make him look bad. ============ coromandel said: ironace's vote for Luna is actually pretty interesting. He was the 4th person on her train and said: "Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games)" This could be scum bussing their partner. 4th person on the train, emphasizes that he was "just" thinking of voting for luna "as well", like the others. His reason for voting her doesn't make much sense to me. He says her method seems unnatural from the norm he's used to, but with only 2 completed games, that doesn't seem like a strong reason - which he's aware of. So why vote her out of everyone? Why would he bus their partner in this situation? Assuming you mean that he planned on helping getting me lynched to gain town cred. There was absolutely no need to do this and it would have just made things harder for him once he was alone. This theory seems pretty far fetched to me. |
Aug 10, 2017 10:36 AM
#956
coromandel said: And I'm leaning towards ironace/Luna, because if I was voting for amai now as well, everyone would be voting for her except for herself. What kind of reason is that? You could also just not voting her because she's your mafia buddy. With how you're trying to stir things into the direction ironace/Luna with very weird reasons and how Amai suddenly changed from town reading me to saying I'm scum without giving proper reasons, I'm starting to believe that it's actually coro/Amai. I still need to have a closer look at ironace though, I didn't forget about him. |
Aug 10, 2017 11:25 AM
#957
Amai_yume said: if I analyze you separate from floofs then I will vote for you and that's just what it's going to be is that what you would like me to do? I have a slight Town read on floofs I have a scam read on you.logic340 said: Again it's really annoying how you don't analyse me separately from floof. You don't even know if we are the within the same meta. I find it weird that Luna/Iron are voting together. It's kind of scummy even which is why I think they are together.coromandel said: And I'm not sure amai would be ballsy enough to fake-claim like this as scum. it's now a her word against ironace's situation, which is something scum tend to avoid. Another thing is how ironace constantly accused people of being TPR. I've seen this happen in other games, where scum accuse people they "suspect" as TPR, because they're already mafia themselves and now said person can't be mafia. |
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Aug 10, 2017 11:28 AM
#958
Luna said: there's a difference between looking anti town and actually being anti town. That is what my posts were trying to get you to see that there is an actual mindset A-Town to mindset to what Abu was doing but you refuse to listen to me. This is my problem now I need you all to look at who has a mindset that is invested in towns interest and who's is not. When I look at that I come to two people who are not in the interest of town Luna and Amai.logic340 said: @Luna and @Amai_yume you two need to explain why you were so against my Abu read. I want to honor his memory an lynch Luna for him as she is the most connected. I have a whole list of posts made by Abu that look anti-town to me. But I don't think it would be helpful to continue talking about this now, I would like to focus on the remaining players. There's some things I need to read again, will post more soon. Where is the town line set in refusing to claim in hiding behind Mass claim where is the town line set and not sharing any thoughts until it's time to reveal information these are two of the big issues I have with the both of you. Rather than work with town I feel like you were both fought me on it and if you're both town then we deserve to lose. |
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Aug 10, 2017 11:32 AM
#959
It's so obvious that coromandel s trying to protect amai. Bringing back topics that were long considered over. I laready said why I didn't reply seriously.he is suddenly bringing it back up... And it's true that I thought that the day still had time so I was commenting like that...asking logic questions. Then I looked back and saw that the day was over and I felt stupid for missing out.. @logic340 Please,don't let coromandel sow the seeds of doubt in your mind. I'm town.vote for amai.hell,vote for coromandel even. |
Aug 10, 2017 11:32 AM
#960
Luna said: this it's well put. coromandel said: And I'm leaning towards ironace/Luna, because if I was voting for amai now as well, everyone would be voting for her except for herself. What kind of reason is that? You could also just not voting her because she's your mafia buddy. With how you're trying to stir things into the direction ironace/Luna with very weird reasons and how Amai suddenly changed from town reading me to saying I'm scum without giving proper reasons, I'm starting to believe that it's actually coro/Amai. I still need to have a closer look at ironace though, I didn't forget about him. Coro/Amai feels real, hoping to look at this day from the beginning slowly. |
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Aug 10, 2017 11:34 AM
#961
Amai_yume said: aren't scum not trying to look scummy though? Like scum hide among the town by not doing scummy things. So playing a really clean game can be indicative of scum as well I really need more from you as I cannot follow your mindset here.logic340 said: @Luna your thoughts on coro @Amai_yume your thoughts on coro, do you still town read Luna, and what was your iron Ace read before you got your results? I think there is a small chance she can be scum instead of Luna. I would switch if I saw more scummy behavior from coro. Iron was a null read. |
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Aug 10, 2017 11:35 AM
#962
ironace said: I just want any of these 2 to be lynched.It's so obvious that coromandel s trying to protect amai. Bringing back topics that were long considered over. I laready said why I didn't reply seriously.he is suddenly bringing it back up... And it's true that I thought that the day still had time so I was commenting like that...asking logic questions. Then I looked back and saw that the day was over and I felt stupid for missing out.. @logic340 Please,don't let coromandel sow the seeds of doubt in your mind. I'm town.vote for amai.hell,vote for coromandel even. |
Aug 10, 2017 11:37 AM
#963
I had a quite a bad day today so I didn't talk more,ask me questions and I'll try my best to answere them. |
Aug 10, 2017 11:44 AM
#964
I'm at the eye doctor and currently can't see much I will respond to more when I get done here |
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Aug 10, 2017 1:48 PM
#965
@Amai_yume how did you go from town Luna off tone and thought process to scum Luna? |
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Aug 10, 2017 4:09 PM
#966
@Amai_yume You asked me to do you separate from Floofs I told you how I feel about that but I will revisit it for the sake of being thorough. I need you to answer all the questions I have asked you to this point so that I can make a better read than whatever I will be posting here shortly. |
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Aug 10, 2017 5:51 PM
#967
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FRREEEEEDDDOOOOMMMM FROM MY 11 WEEK TEXAS POLITICS COURSE THAT TOOK AWAY MY SUMMER |
Aug 10, 2017 6:57 PM
#968
Luna said: setting up mislynches?logic340 said: I don't like Amai's entrance. How do you feel about her question to Abu? Amai's only actions so far were 1. Asking Abu a question (which he hasn't answered) 2. Replying to logic once, not answering his question about how she feels about Abu 3. Not voting for anyone Maybe she just didn't have a lot of time, but I find these things weird, especially the first 2 points. Asking Abu of all players seems a bit... like she tried to talk to her mafia buddy to make it seem like they're not connected, but then when a question about Abu was asked, she couldn't answer it, was trying to avoid the question. |
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Aug 10, 2017 7:06 PM
#969
Luna said: @coromandel I really don't think they can be partnersironace said: Mostly because red i thought to be scum and I can see why people would think so.though I'm too lazy to talk more right now~~~ See yall later folks Wait, you're leaving because you're too lazy to talk right now? What kind of mindset is that? |
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Aug 10, 2017 7:08 PM
#970
I'm always here if anyone wants to chat |
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Aug 10, 2017 8:12 PM
#971
Is there an easy way to ISO here without looking at each and every page? |
Aug 10, 2017 8:43 PM
#972
Riddle me this. If ironace is scum RB why not RB Abu and kill me last night? |
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Aug 10, 2017 8:44 PM
#973
Amai_yume said: To this point do you feel like you had explained your though process well?logic340 said: Amai_yume said: logic340 said: logic340 said: @Amai_yume could you answer this for me?Why ask Abu this question? What are your thoughts on Luna? What are your thoughts on Abu? Also just so you know I am confirmed town I think Luna is townie as I said earlier, her analysis shows a town mindset to me. I'm kind of unsure with Abu since I don't like his vote on Luna earlier. She explains her thoughts well and I for one think her tone is genuine. Yes, I have. |
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Aug 10, 2017 8:47 PM
#974
Amai_yume said: @logic340 1. I'm not avoiding you're questions and I've given my thoughts on who I feel good about. It's also only been us two so far when I do have time for the thread. I want interactions with the others too in real time. 2. I was busy yesterday with a guest and class (college). I will respond when I do have time. I will be back later have to attend to pre-bug specialist tasks. 1. reading back through it still feels that way to me. I mean I got the most minimal answers to the questions I asked and then during the night phase I hounded you about abu before he flipped town with no reply. 2. This is OoG and nothing I can judge you on. What I can judge you on is your contribution. I will be honest if I was going to vote for ironace right now it would be on the strength of Floofs EoD1 because I am still not seeing why you think I should feel what you are doing is town motivated to this point. |
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Aug 10, 2017 8:56 PM
#975
Amai_yume said: Sadly no there isn't here. MAL is archaic in that regard. Is there an easy way to ISO here without looking at each and every page? CTRL + F to find what you are looking for on the page. |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:05 PM
#976
coromandel said: Did you ever come back to this?logic340 said: logic340 said: "Everything Luna continued...." Luna said: In my post where I asked about FOS I also asked ironace a question directly which he didn't reply to. Not replying to a question can mean they just honestly didn't see it for some reason, or they did see it but decided to ignore it, trying to avoid giving a bad answer if they're not town. I wanted to know what's the case here. The way he replied now makes me think he didn't see my post. logic340 said: Luna said: ironace said: Luna said: ironace said: Oh yeah..@logic340 what is FOS? Edit...I hate my autocorect Edit..just saw the above post. @ironace: Did you see that I had asked this question before? I saw the post later on. If you saw it later, why didn't you reply to my question I had in the same post? Or did I miss something? logic340 said: ironace said: @Luna you guys posted literally like 1 minute apart. Why does him asking this question catch your interest?Luna said: ironace said: Oh yeah..@logic340 what is FOS? Edit...I hate my autocorect Edit..just saw the above post. @ironace: Did you see that I had asked this question before? I saw the post later on. I posted the actual question several minutes before this happened, in a post where I also addressed him directly. When I posted 1 minute before him I just said thanks to your answer. I just wanted to find out if he actually read my other post. logic340 said: What do you expect from him when you ask him to contribute more? Answering questions he was asked and trying to work out the game (people have different methods but he didn't do much before). logic340 said: So from experience when posts are lacking is that coming from Mafia who are struggling to hide amongst the town or townies getting themselves into trouble. What does ironace's lack of contribution mean for his alignment? Do you think he is going to sit back and not do anything as scum? Sounds counterproductive to me. Just saying that his contribution isn't enough really isn't doing it for me because something similar could be said about your early contribution and was. With Abu I feel just like Salmon does. Talk to him and his alignment will reveal itself. He's been like an open book lately. Not sure how he got mislynched in Robot Mafia. So I will give him some time to show me what he is working with. I saw enough players who did not much as mafia (as well as town, so yeah, it's not alignment indicative). I actually compared ironace's early contributions to mine in the sentence, but I want to know from Abu why he chose me and not ironace. And sure, I will talk to Abu, that's why I asked him all these questions. logic340 said: 1. How does brining up no lynch early harm town? It's something I feel that players here view negatively without really thinking about the pros and cons of a no lynch for each actual alignment. Why would it encourage people to sit back and do nothing when I have stated that we need to get out in front and catch the mafia? Why would I talk about no lynch making people feel at ease like they don't have to do anything then turn around and try to get everyone active? You say it can slow the game down why am I doing the opposite then by posting as much as I have trying to get people engaged and talking about one another? Is that the scum approach to making a No Lynch happen D1? Talking and getting people engaged is great, yes. I was mostly talking about the voting. If we're mostly talking and not voting there won't be a lot of pressure (people react differently to questions depending on if they're pressured or not, so it's helpful). In this game everyone who is active has already placed at least one vote though, so doesn't really apply here. Actually this game is a lot more active than the games I used to play. So some of my views and experience I have might actually a bit outdated. logic340 said: 2. Why would I encourage him to vote for people I though were null, town, or didn't have enough information on? Should I have been encouraging him to join your train? Like I said, everyone should form their own opinions. What's the point of telling someone to vote for player X? You can bring your case against player X and if someone agrees they will join the train. But telling someone to vote player X seems just fishy to me. 1. Sorry about that you did post the question on page 1. Now it still brings me to my question what does him missing it or asking the question again tell you about his alignment? 2. No he didn't do much before but to be fair it was like somewhere between 1am and 2am on that side of the world. I thought he was asleep before then. Now that he is back we should try to get him more engaged. I know a lot of players who don't like asking questions. Karote is a great example of this even as Conf!Town that guy barely contributes at least in a way we would really consider contribution. Everyone brings their own methods it's up to us to figure them out. If someone gets lynched for the same reasons every game is it their fault or the people lynching them? 3. Well I will look forward to Abu's answer there and it's a decent question should lead some interactions between you both. 4. Even in this current MS meta I think some of the views are outdated which is why I like to play around with NL. It's something that generally causes a reaction in town and scum either stay away or jump on trying to look townie. This is where I start looking at motive as opposed to just which side you are on. 5. While I agree these is a bit of democracy going on here. So sometimes there needs to be compromise. Also if we all come to our own conclusions and that lands us on 9 different people with 1 vote each what did we achieve? So yes I will always s encourage people to vote with me when I am confident in my reads. I surely wouldn't want him voting a town read would I? 1. See my reply to coro above ^ 2. I know that it was late for him and I only said it would be better if he contributed more from now on. I know people have different methods but refusing to work things out isn't a method I think is good. If town stays low they make themselves suspicious which helps mafia because people focus on these players then. 4. I can't say anything about the current MS meta because I didn't even read any recent games, so I will just see how things are going here now. 5. My problem was the way how you said it. It was really pushy and didn't let him room to come to his own conclusions. Since you seem to be confirmed townie now I will drop this here because it doesn't make much sense to continue this. Luna said: logic340 said: Luna said: All that lynch proves is the person was town. What if everyone on the lynch train was town. Sure we can look through the train but it really doesn't help us anymore or less than going through any other train after any other flip. People have argued that a NK doesn't offer as much information but everything that happens offers information it's just whether we figure it out or not. I like to use VCA but honestly they only really work near end game after you have 4 dead townies in them or if you catch scum and use them afterwards to find partners. I can rely on my ability but only as it helps me to assist town or give town information. I was a redirector once and knew I was going to fuck with town results so I gave up my role so that town could figure things out without being confused. I will end up doing the same thing here it's just a matter of when. I am looking for the opportune time. Though it may have passed since I am not facing any real pressure here.logic340 said: Luna said: logic340 said: Luna said: in many cases my town win percentage sits at maybe 40% my mafia win percentage is 80.%. Mislynches are what basis need for quick victory..Why hero them with a lynch for possible information? Especially in a role madness game where we could potentially be lynching a investigative pr? Again not advocating for No Lynch but we need to get after it if we're going to give ourselves a better option. logic340 said: Yes and no...I am pro lynch D1 but I am not down for any old lynch. If I feel that the lynch is on mafia or will actually provide town with information then cool. I mostly want people to know that it is a voting option and one I would choose over CFD and possibly lynching town at the EoD. Why you may ask? Because i feel like lengthening the game is very disadvantageous for mafia. If you like we can discuss why I feel NL has merits, if and only if, we cannot come to some sort of consensus on what we feel is a scum lynch option. This isn't set in stone every game brings it's different challenges but yeah. I also feel that RVS isn't need so this is my way of working around it. In what case would a lynch not provide town with information? Thoughts on Ruu and Salmon? The thing is, if someone gets lynched on D1 and an alignment is revealed, you can work much better from there on the following day(s) because you can start making better connections between players. Otherwise you will still have much less information on D2, which benefits the mafia. And yes, in role madness people have abilities to find out things during night. But these do not necessarily help a lot (people could die, be blocked, abilities redirected, framed etc. etc.). To me it seems better to work out the game with the information that's open in the thread which includes votes and the results of a lynch. But that's just my opinion. Ruu and Red_Salmon are neutral to me at the moment. Ruu hasn't said too much yet so can't say much about her, but nothing really seemed bad to me. I don't know her meta, so help me here please: What did she say or do in this game that made her suspicious to you? In your reasoning for voting here it reads to me like you're voting her for meta reasons but as I don't know these other games I don't really understand. About Red_Salmon, when I asked if everyone had played mafia before, he didn't just reply to my question but also asked me something about this game, which I liked. Gave me the feeling he's not just here to write fluff. I don't understand why he unvoted Abu though, especially after Abu's weird appearance. @Red_Salmon: Why did you unvote Abu? If a lynch doesn't happen and a night kill does we get pretty much the same information though. Again based on my experience mislynches don't actually give town much information other than the person who flipped. I found that in Robot Mafia town didn't use the information to their advantage not that it isn't there so how do you make sure we use the information from a mislynch in a productive way? I would rather save a life and keep mafia away front heir wincon then to give them a life for possible information. I feel like you defeated your own argument with the bolded because isn't all of that information that will at some point be available. Mafia only get 1 night kill they cannot restrict our information as much as you are letting on. I caught her bending the truth which is something I feel benefits mafia more than town. though she did admit to it which makes me feel a bit better but that is how she got me last time doing things I didn't expect scum to do. There's also the fact that she hasn't really given a read on me when I know she is good at reading me. She nails me as scum it's happened multiple times. Red_Salmon just got out of a game with Town Abu. I have played two games with town Abu recently and his weird appearance is pretty much just Abu. Not really enough to go either way but his first post honestly gave me town Abu vibes. If someone flips and you know their alignment upon death you can make a VCA (vote count analysis). This can help find the non town related players. Sure you can analyze the votes even if someone doesn't get lynched, but since you don't know their alignment there's not much you can do with it, vca gets more effective the more information about dead players is known. Considering the small setup there's probably 2 mafia and 1 tpr and they all have abilities. Some town roles might also have abilities that can for example block or redirect and they might use it on another townie. I generally don't like relying too much on abilities in games, especially when they're not known like here. Could you give me the posts in which Ruu said these things? "Could you give me the posts in which Ruu said these things?" - What do you mean? What did I say about Ruu here? Anyway I am not going for no lynch I am going for a scum lynch care to join me? Yeah like I said, VCA gets more effective later, but if there's no lynch it takes just longer. I meant that you said you caught Ruu bending the truth and I wasn't sure what this was about, so I asked you to link me to the posts. But I already found them now, so nevermind my question. Sure, I'm all for lynching scum today. Who are your current suspects and why? Luna said: ironace said: all caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive unvote Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games) Vote:luna this seems like a good place to start. I was trying to find out your alignment, asking questions is a key element for doing it. I could have asked you directly if you had read my post but I decided to ask in an indirect way because I thought maybe I would get more information like this. ironace said: ill ask again, why are you guys suspicious of salmon?OR am i missing something? Let's turn this question around, what do you think about Red_Salmon so far? Luna said: RE1031 said: Luna said: @AbuHumaid: Did you actually read my posts? Do you have any other reasons for voting me? Why did you prefer me over ironace even though his contributions are also lacking? How do you feel about Floofs? I'd say she's contributing less than both. Floofs hasn't said much before you asked the question, but she posted more now. Her early posts don't look scummy to me but they kind of gave me the feeling she's trying to stay in the background. I like the posts she made later, she is engaging more with other players. Not sure about her vote and the reasoning though, it didn't seem to me like a big deal. Luna said: AbuHumaid said: Luna said: what's wrong with joining the game late? timezones? Then there's Abu who joined the game late, voted me without giving a reason and when he was asked he said this: AbuHumaid said: logic340 said: it's because what you and RE said, most of her posts are irrelevant to the game yet she's fairly active. only an anti-town would be like that i'm still not sure about her though i want to see more of her + her responseMay I ask why you're voting Luna? RE said "a good number of them don't pertain to this game specifically". I don't think he meant "most" with it. Also, besides my exchanges with ironace, I also had exchanges with logic and Red_Salmon and they were specific to the game. @AbuHumaid: Did you actually read my posts? Do you have any other reasons for voting me? Why did you prefer me over ironace even though his contributions are also lacking? and yeah RE said "good number" which is close enough to "most" why are you arguing about this while missing the whole point? by "irrelevant" i meant that your posts aren't helping town, they seem too casual and yes i read your posts other reasons? you just gave me more, why are you panicking over a vote? i never said i want to lynch you, i honestly didn't want to because you just came back to mafia games so it would be mean but you're not giving me a reason to not suspect you ironace is a newbie, i'm used to him being like that so pushing on him too much is scummy wouldn't you think so? Nothing is wrong with it, I was just saying that you weren't here in the game in the beginning. Casual posts are not necessarily irrelevant. They can still help in one way or the other. Since I hadn't played with most people here I wanted to get a feeling for them. I'm not panicking over a vote, what makes you think I am? I'm only asking you questions to find out what you're thinking so I can get a better read on you. I don't see why it's scummy that I'm asking him questions until I have enough information. He may be a newbie (I didn't know this when I first voted him), but that doesn't mean I can't question him. As you can see this is putting me in the spotlight, do you think mafia would do something like this? logic340 said: @Luna, @Red_Salmon, @Ruu, @RE1031, @Floofs, @ironace What is everyone's current read on AbuHumaid? I have a very specific reason for asking this question at this point in time, which I will reveal after I get responses from all of you. I'm still trying to figure him out. He gave me a quite long reply asking back some questions which seems more townish to me. logic340 said: logic340 said: Abu's number 267 gives be very strong town vibes to go along with the early town vibes I got from his entrance. I dare say this bay be the towniest thing (besides his self vote in Robot Mafia) I've ever seen from him?@Luna, @Red_Salmon, @Ruu, @RE1031, @Floofs, @ironace What is everyone's current read on AbuHumaid? I have a very specific reason for asking this question at this point in time, which I will reveal after I get responses from all of you. How is a self vote a townie thing? I've seen self votes before from both mafia and town. But that's one of the most anti-town things I can think of because it doesn't help town. Luna said: Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: I'm not a huge fan of the pre flip Association let's do one at time for now. But since you brought it up why is it you feel you can see Corp/Luna scum team?logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: @Rui thoughts on this? @Floofs you too.Luna said: what's wrong with joining the game late? timezones? Then there's Abu who joined the game late, voted me without giving a reason and when he was asked he said this: AbuHumaid said: logic340 said: it's because what you and RE said, most of her posts are irrelevant to the game yet she's fairly active. only an anti-town would be like that i'm still not sure about her though i want to see more of her + her responseMay I ask why you're voting Luna? RE said "a good number of them don't pertain to this game specifically". I don't think he meant "most" with it. Also, besides my exchanges with ironace, I also had exchanges with logic and Red_Salmon and they were specific to the game. @AbuHumaid: Did you actually read my posts? Do you have any other reasons for voting me? Why did you prefer me over ironace even though his contributions are also lacking? and yeah RE said "good number" which is close enough to "most" why are you arguing about this while missing the whole point? by "irrelevant" i meant that your posts aren't helping town, they seem too casual and yes i read your posts other reasons? you just gave me more, why are you panicking over a vote? i never said i want to lynch you, i honestly didn't want to because you just came back to mafia games so it would be mean but you're not giving me a reason to not suspect you ironace is a newbie, i'm used to him being like that so pushing on him too much is scummy wouldn't you think so? I like Abu's post here. I'm having a really hard time reading people rn... Idk if it's because my head is elsewhere or because everyone is posting in such neutral way... am I the only one having this problem? I can't find scummy posts but I'm also missing townish ones D: Salmon and Luna are not buddies that much I can tell. I like Abu over Luna atm (specially after the post I quoted). What I didn't like about RE was that he was going back and forth with his statements and accusations. One clear example is a post I quoted earlier saying it made me lol. I can see a coro/Luna team atm. vote: Luna apart from what others already stated I want to vote for Luna because of coro's behaviour towards her. If Luna flips scum I'm 100% sure coro is her buddy. What do you think logic? coro keeps defending Luna. Way too much... (why is Luna scummy? she is not scummy... I agree with this post of hers...) I see it as a buddy worried about loosing a teammate so early in the game. You think I'm not scummy but you vote for me to find out coro's alignment? What if I flip town (which I will), you will know nothing about coro because it could be two townies or mafia defending town. It seems you're trying to push for a lynch on me now for very weird reasons, instead of looking at all players and trying to find someone who is actually scummy to you. It's a bit hard for me to believe that you can't find any scummy posts. What do you think about Red_Salmon? Luna said: Players I currently find most suspicious: Red_Salmon: Unvoted Abu without explaining it, hasn't explained it even though people asked him about it. Actually it seems he hasn't been posting here after this. Would like to see his current thoughts on the game because the posts he made before don't tell me much. Ruu: logic asked her to put her vote on one of the trains and she picked me even though she said she didn't find me scummy. This doesn't really make sense to me. Waiting for an answer about this, but so far it seems really weird to me. I still can't really figure out Abu and ironace. But Red_Salmon and Ruu raise more suspicious atm so I'd be willing to move my vote on one of them. Luna said: ironace said: @Luna, what did you gain from asking me in an indirect manner? @coromandel, you still havent said what you got off from our conversation. just a quick heads up i may not be available during phase change and my vote may remain, though luna's reply seems so have cleared up most of my suspicions but now im back to zero. So whos the most scummy right now? unvote I thought that if you're mafia you might say contradicting things or otherwise slip up. You answered pretty calm though and are active now, which removed a lot of my suspicion. What do you think about Red_Salmon and Ruu? Luna said: This game is pretty slow atm and we don't have much time left. Vote: Red_Salmon Why did you unvote Abu? What do you think about Ruu? Luna said: RE1031 said: Not against a Red_Salmon lynch, he hasn't be here contributing + early behavior was scummy null, but I don't like how Luna completely switched gears. It feels like a countertrain to scum, like going after the one player who hasn't been here the longest. I actually don't like lynching a player who isn't here to defend themselves. My vote on him was partly motivated by wanting to see a reaction from Ruu. Seeing if she would still push for me even though she doesn't have good reasons and hearing what she thinks about him. She hasn't reply to me yet though so I can't see much yet. logic340 said: 2. Ok, coo, sorry about this understand..note that you have going and read those posts what are your thoughts on Ruu? See my posts #312 + #313 My Thoughts Page 7: More digging at ace over FOS thing, still on me about how I told ironace to move his vote, says she is down for lynching scum asks for my suspects without telling me hers. IDK if anyone was clear on who they thought was what throughout this game I though that honor would go to me? Digging more at ironace and flips his question about Salmon back at him (this is before she shared her scum!salmon read D1). Says she likes floofs (amai) posts here but doesn't say if that means for town or not. I find it interesting because now it's Amai/Abu scum team? I could almost say this feels like a soft defense of Floof. Will have to see if her opinion on Floofs EoD1 changes later. I know they said they were suspicious of Abu so I want to see how the read progresses D1 considering she's still suspicious of him now. Tells Abu there is nothing wrong with casual posts though her 6 NAI post entrance is what garnered her 5 VOTES. She's been on two people about their contribution but hasn't done much herself. She gave reads on Abu/ironace/logic to this point and has pretty much asked everyone else to share their opinion (correct me if I am wrong). Tells me she is still trying to figure out Abu and asks me how him self-voting was townish. If Luna is scum then Ruu gave her a great place to attack from, I cannot attribute that post to scum but it surely could come from there. The next post where she states her suspicions of Salmon and Ruu is quite interesting though as she has not shown any progression in her reads on ironace and Abu to this point yet they are no longer players she is suspicious of? We should have questioned this more at the time as I see this as posturing for the inevitable self-protection vote on Ruu. Note she found nothing scummy about Ruu prior to Ruu voting coro in an effort to sort Luna. Explains to ironace that he was calm in response to her I guess that means she town or neutral reads him there? Gave her opinion on Ruu and Salmon before asking his is good. Votes salmon in an effort to get an answer says she doesn't like lynching players who aren't here to answer (held true to that D2) but votes Ruu a player who had said she wouldn't be around due to lunch (I believe)? lol.. my head is spinning after reading this. x3 I'll come back to this later, logic. |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:05 PM
#977
@Togs New vote count please. I feel like this needs to be done/ Vote: coromandel |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:06 PM
#978
12 hours people it's crunch time. |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:15 PM
#979
Can anyone guess why I am currently voting for Coro? |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:20 PM
#980
Amai_yume said: What did reading of past games turn up?ironace said: Amai_yume said: ironace said: coromandel said: hmmm.... if amai is telling the truth, then ironace is scum, and it should be ironace/luna then. If amai is lying then amai/luna. So either way, Luna has to be scum imo, unless amai and ironace are trying to distance themselves from each other smh. >.> vote change: luna Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to. pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic. amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!! How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read. I already claimed i was role blocker, and i had asked people who to RB last night luna was quite a popular opinion, so i RB-ed her. Im town, so i cannot kill others and thus, you gave yourself away by saying i visited logic. My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out. I don't think it would tell me anything about Luna and I have played in the two games that ironace has played in so you could always ask my opinion. |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:21 PM
#981
Vote Count 3.4 Amai_yume (2): Luna, Ironace Luna (1): Coromandel Ironace (1): Amai_yume Coromandel (1): Logic340 Not Voting (0): ~ >>Day 3 Timer<< |
Aug 10, 2017 9:55 PM
#982
Amai_yume said: Hello. Reading up on the past few pages now. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: while I do like the initiative could you please take some time to share your thoughts on what you've read so far? I think you have been slight town and it's mainly due to your tone. It feels genuine and so does Luna with her thought out posts. 1. NAI entrance post. 2. I find this one very interesting. My first though is they must town read Luna (which they do). I asked multiple times why they chose Abu and didn't get a response. I could read a lot into this post but suffice to say if they flipped scum I will be looking at the Luna very quickly (and vice versa). 3. Reads me town off tone and reads Luna town off though process and sounding genuine. Amai_yume said: Busy mornings usually and not around till noon >.<! I've said what I feel so far already. Outside of that I was unsure of red, but he flipped town. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: logic340 said: Why ask Abu this question? What are your thoughts on Luna? What are your thoughts on Abu? Also just so you know I am confirmed town I think Luna is townie as I said earlier, her analysis shows a town mindset to me. I'm kind of unsure with Abu since I don't like his vote on Luna earlier. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: Amai_yume said: logic340 said: logic340 said: @Amai_yume could you answer this for me?Why ask Abu this question? What are your thoughts on Luna? What are your thoughts on Abu? Also just so you know I am confirmed town I think Luna is townie as I said earlier, her analysis shows a town mindset to me. I'm kind of unsure with Abu since I don't like his vote on Luna earlier. She explains her thoughts well and I for one think her tone is genuine. Yes, I have. 1. NAI post mentions Salmon flipping town. 2. Reiterates why they feel that Luna is town off tone, though process, and mindset. Still no examples or in-depth explanation. Says they don't trust Abu due to his earlier vote on Luna. This is strange because ironace and coro both voted Luna (with less reasoning I believe) as well. Possible Whiteknighting? Really feels Luna is town? 3. Again further reiterates about tone and sounding genuine from Luna. Says they have read my posts on Luna but have not debated with me over our differing opinions. Amai_yume said: @logic340 1. I'm not avoiding you're questions and I've given my thoughts on who I feel good about. It's also only been us two so far when I do have time for the thread. I want interactions with the others too in real time. 2. I was busy yesterday with a guest and class (college). I will respond when I do have time. I will be back later have to attend to pre-bug specialist tasksk. 1. While I cannot say they have not shared their thoughts to this point they are very shallow. I still feel like they have dodged and avoided me and the lack of interactions with others who didn't push like myself only compounds my issue. Amai_yume said: I'm a one - shot watcher and I decided to watch Logic last night. Abu and Ironace visited him and that makes me think iron is scum! Vote: Ironace Amai_yume said: ironace said: hahahahahahahhahahahahah amai you lost I had no need to see logic as he was confirmed town. I ''visited''luna vote:amai_yume I saw it though since Abu obviously died protecting Logic. It makes the most sense logically. Amai_yume said: ironace said: Amai_yume said: ironace said: hahahahahahahhahahahahah amai you lost I had no need to see logic as he was confirmed town. I ''visited''luna vote:amai_yume I saw it though since Abu obviously died protecting Logic. It makes the most sense logically. then are u saying coro or luna are scum with me? this was such a bad technique dude.... @logic340 @luna @coromandel vote for amai, or we WILL lose I would have to reconsider on both now and I will look for a past game or two to decide. Amai_yume said: Also I am female Amai_yume said: ironace said: coromandel said: hmmm.... if amai is telling the truth, then ironace is scum, and it should be ironace/luna then. If amai is lying then amai/luna. So either way, Luna has to be scum imo, unless amai and ironace are trying to distance themselves from each other smh. >.> vote change: luna Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to. pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic. amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!! How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read. Amai_yume said: ironace said: Amai_yume said: ironace said: coromandel said: hmmm.... if amai is telling the truth, then ironace is scum, and it should be ironace/luna then. If amai is lying then amai/luna. So either way, Luna has to be scum imo, unless amai and ironace are trying to distance themselves from each other smh. >.> vote change: luna Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to. pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic. amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!! How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read. I already claimed i was role blocker, and i had asked people who to RB last night luna was quite a popular opinion, so i RB-ed her. Im town, so i cannot kill others and thus, you gave yourself away by saying i visited logic. My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out. Amai_yume said: [/quote]logic340 said: @amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time. If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna? With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites. 1. Claims ironace visited me last night votes ironace. I have no read that allows me to believe this information outright. 2. Not sure I understand this post as all that needed to be said was I caught you scum. 3. Says they will have to reconsider Luna and coro after ironace calls her out. This is interesting because shouldn't she have already had an idea about who his partner would be? Also she was town reading Luna hard before this why the sudden change in mindset? 4. NAI 5. Doesn't want to tilt on her town read but hasn't really fleshed out said read. Hasn't debated with me seeing as how we hold opposing views (same thing happened with Abu). 6. Leaning on evidence over behavior. Says it could be a ruse between iron and Luna, which I find strange given they just said they didn't want to tilt on their town read and show no progression towards this other than "I need to reevaluate." 7. Says ironace/Luna due to ace's responses. I will have to look at his responses to see how/why that is? Amai_yume said: logic340 said: hmph i'm trying my darn best here to tell you guys that Iron is the scum and not me! It's just frustrating as subbing in for inactivity is always 10 times harder!Amai_yume said: logic340 said: @amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time. If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna? With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites. unvote: vote: amai I am so serious about this. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: Amai_yume said: logic340 said: hmph i'm trying my darn best here to tell you guys that Iron is the scum and not me! It's just frustrating as subbing in for inactivity is always 10 times harder!Amai_yume said: I am not reading you off other games I am reading you off this onelogic340 said: @amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time. If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna? With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites. unvote: vote: amai I am so serious about this. I'm not being inactivity for the sake of inactivity! I'm actually in the midst of finals week, and I wanted to play this game even with my limited time. There is a difference between inactivity and still posting when you have a chance. Amai_yume said: I'm looking at past games/researching for essay atm. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: In response to this, I do better with real time interactions. I was going to pressure red a bit before EoD, but wasn't here in time. At that time I was still null with Coro/Iron.Amai_yume said: logic340 said: Amai_yume said: I mean you were inactive yourself though. I tried to get a read on you before this. I have a read on Ironace can you quote it and refute it for me so i can see where you are coming from right now. Also do you think town have a tracker and a watcher because i am more willing to lynch luna that ironace and then we can talk. logic340 said: hmph i'm trying my darn best here to tell you guys that Iron is the scum and not me! It's just frustrating as subbing in for inactivity is always 10 times harder!Amai_yume said: I am not reading you off other games I am reading you off this onelogic340 said: @amai_yume if I may have a moment of your time. If you are telling the truth then who do you think is more likely to be ironace's partner? coro or Luna? With the recent post from Iron that I responded too Luna > Coro. I can always link my other games from other sites. unvote: vote: amai I am so serious about this. I'm not being inactivity for the sake of inactivity! I'm actually in the midst of finals week, and I wanted to play this game even with my limited time. There is a difference between inactivity and still posting when you have a chance. Without the claim info. I want to know how you feel about each player still living right now based on their behavior and nothing else. I really don't think this is asking for too much? Amai_yume said: logic340 said: Yes, but I want a comparison to see if it's consistent with this game. That's part of how I solve games.Amai_yume said: I'm looking at past games/researching for essay atm. 1. NAI, it's hard to sub in as either alignment. I feel like if they know it's hard they should be working at getting themselves cleared. That should have been the top priority. 2. NAI OoG I don't know what your personal life is like and it's not going to work into my argument. What I can say is I don't feel you have made the most out of the posts you have made. 3. NAI what did looking at past games tell them? I'll be looking for the answer to that. 4. NAI, in the event you cannot get real time interactions what do you normally do. We are in the final phase if we mislynch here it's not time to be sitting back. 5. NAI, what did looking at past games tell them? I'll be looking for the answer to that. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: Again it's really annoying how you don't analyse me separately from floof. You don't even know if we are the within the same meta. I find it weird that Luna/Iron are voting together. It's kind of scummy even which is why I think they are together.coromandel said: And I'm not sure amai would be ballsy enough to fake-claim like this as scum. it's now a her word against ironace's situation, which is something scum tend to avoid. Another thing is how ironace constantly accused people of being TPR. I've seen this happen in other games, where scum accuse people they "suspect" as TPR, because they're already mafia themselves and now said person can't be mafia. Amai_yume said: logic340 said: @Luna your thoughts on coro @Amai_yume your thoughts on coro, do you still town read Luna, and what was your iron Ace read before you got your results? I think there is a small chance she can be scum instead of Luna. I would switch if I saw more scummy behavior from coro. Iron was a null read. Amai_yume said: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FRREEEEEDDDOOOOMMMM FROM MY 11 WEEK TEXAS POLITICS COURSE THAT TOOK AWAY MY SUMMER Amai_yume said: Is there an easy way to ISO here without looking at each and every page? 1. I like this but it didn't seem to lead to anything good really. 2. Waffling on coro/luna? There is a whole thread of coro's post and a post on Page 17 that has most of coro's early posts in one easy place. I have others just like it for Abu/Luna/ironace? These are tools I have provided my town they may have my opinions but I need yours. 3. NAI 4. NAI Amai has only quoted me or ironace. We know they are not teams with either but no direct conversation with coro or Luna? |
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Aug 10, 2017 9:56 PM
#983
@Amai_yume you were just online why didn't you take a real time interaction with me? |
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Aug 10, 2017 10:01 PM
#984
455 |
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Aug 10, 2017 10:06 PM
#985
@coromandel, @Amai_yume, @Luna, @ironace I want a very detailed explanation of why your vote is where it is right now. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:43 AM
#986
logic340 said: @coromandel, @Amai_yume, @Luna, @ironace I want a very detailed explanation of why your vote is where it is right now. I dont need to give a detailed explanation. I was banging my head when i found out that red was town. I was going to go after luna the next day but when i finally came back to d3, i sqaw amai claiming and saying i visited you-which i didnt. I seriously thank amai for giving herself out and i am sure she is scum. No other reason required. |
Aug 11, 2017 4:21 AM
#987
4.5'hours outsole let's get it together |
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Aug 11, 2017 5:24 AM
#988
logic340 said: Riddle me this. If ironace is scum RB why not RB Abu and kill me last night? A real convienient plan for scum would be to role block Abu have ace's partner clear ace by saying they were role blocked and then lead the final mislynch with everyone having a 50% chance if lynching scum instead of 66%. I am really having a hard time seeing ironace as scum here |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:15 AM
#989
My thoughts on Floofs/Amai_yume: Floofs: - Floof's early posts gave me the impression that she tried to stay in the background. - When asked who her suspects are, she answers Re and Salmon. But she never made any effort to try to talk to Salmon and figure him out. - She never made any effort to talk to other people outside of RE and answering some questions. - Her other suspect Salmon already had some votes but she completely avoided getting involved (not asking him questions, not voting him). Amai: - In Amai's first post she said "Reading up on the past few pages now". But wouldn't it be better to start from the beginning when you're subbing in, to see how the game developed over time? - In her second post she asks Abu why he thinks Luna is scum. I guess that was something she picked up on the "past few pages". But there he was talking about Luna and coro being scum partners. She didn't ask him about coro though. - With her third post she shows she hasn't read the beginning of the thread yet or else she would have known that logic is confirmed town. - Then she said she said what she felt so far already. But that's not much. She was asked a few times about her thoughts on remaining players and who she finds suspicious but the only "reads" she gave were very vague reads on Logic and Luna. - When logic asked her again, she finally replies to his early question, explaining why she thinks Luna is town, that she's unsure about Abu. - Post #801: → Defends herself and says she gave her thoughts about people who she felt good about. But why didn't she name her suspects? She was asked a few times. → Claims she wants interactions with others in real time. But this is not always possible in these games due to time zones and responsibilities IRL. And the only person she asked something was Abu, she didn't try to initiate discussions with others. - I already pointed out that her "evidence" is not obvious as she claims it is. - I already pointed out how she suddenly switched from town reading me to saying I'm mafia but without giving any proper explanations. - No reply to these things yet (even though she posted after it). - I feel like she's trying to avoid a lot of questions and trying to avoid giving proper reads/reasons for them (when she started playing and also now). Overall her behavior hasn't given me a reason why I should town read her. |
Aug 11, 2017 6:26 AM
#990
ironace said: S/S interaction putting hit teammate all the way up to 4 votes? I find this hard to believe @coromandelall caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive unvote Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games) Vote:luna this seems like a good place to start. Also, may i ask why do you people get scum vibes from salmon? |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:30 AM
#991
logic340 said: ironace said: S/S interaction putting hit teammate all the way up to 4 votes? I find this hard to believe @coromandelall caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive unvote Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games) Vote:luna this seems like a good place to start. Also, may i ask why do you people get scum vibes from salmon? i have got no idea what you just said |
Aug 11, 2017 6:44 AM
#992
Aug 11, 2017 6:46 AM
#993
ironace said: logic340 said: ironace said: all caught up-I feel like an idiot -_- as i didnt read it was logic exclusive unvote Infact i was just thinking of voting for luna as well due to her ...dunno..method? of poking me for answers..seeming unnatural from the norm im used to(not that i know of much since i have technically completed only 2 games) Vote:luna this seems like a good place to start. Also, may i ask why do you people get scum vibes from salmon? i have got no idea what you just said S/S=Scum/Scum I am questioning coro about saying she feels you and Luna could be a team. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:47 AM
#994
Noted this response but I do have a reason and a good one. Care to guess. I will share my reason in the next 45 minutes as I setup my thoughts for how this lynch should go. |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:48 AM
#995
coromandel said: This post is like the definition of going for LHF. At this point they are the lowest posters in the game.What's scummy about Luna? I don't really see it. So what if she posted more fluff than others at the beginning? She hasn't played in a while and isn't familiar with the playerbase. The only thing I don't understand is why she's persistent about ironace's FOS question. I can see myself moving my vote to Floofs or Red_Salmon. I feel like I can't get a good read on them with how little they've said so far. And I'd still like to know RE's reason for suspecting me and Luna, because I only see a case of disagreement, but not a convincing reason for suspecting us. @Red_Salmon Why did you unvote earlier? |
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Aug 11, 2017 6:51 AM
#996
My thoughts about coromandel. I can't comment all the posts, but here's the most important things that I noticed: - Votes ironace in her RVS vote. I've seen mafia buddies do this but usually they try not to make it look like a big deal. In this case though coro asked ironace quite a bit, also when he got another vote from me. - Votes ironace on D2 and she makes a good point about him. In the same post she says about Floofs "Floofs is laying low just like in the other game I've played with her. If she hadn't played the same way in Chad's game, I would be voting for her now." - After ironace starts being more active, coro changes her vote to Floofs ("I'm hoping this will make Floofs post more and give me an answer to the question I asked her earlier"). - Later she explains why she changed her votes, and changes her vote yet again to Red_Salmon ("my vote for Floofs isn't doing much anyway"). - Then she says more about Floofs (" ... Nothing she's done so far makes me think she's actually town. ..."). She didn't say WHY though. - Here she says ironace is now neutral to her - Prefers Salmon for today's lynch but changes her vote to Luna (pressure vote). Note: Salmon was online at the time and coro told him that he's hard to read for her because he hadn't posted much. But she didn't ask him any questions, only after I came online and posted a bit, she switched back to Salmon - Posts a read list. Makes huge cases about ironace and Salmon. Lists Floofs as scummy but only says about her "She hasn't made any posts that'd make me think she's town either" - Later says nothing that Floofs posted is AI. Still no in-depth explanation though. Also, she doesn't have anything to say about ironace's willingness to claim. - Then she claims her role, even when there's no pressure on her. Why would someone do this in this situation? Later she says: "I'm definitely going to use it today, but I wanted to let everyone read my claim first." So she had planned to use it anyway? Logic says his vote for the duel is Salmon and coro agrees without taking other people's opinions into account. When logic says he wouldn't be mad if coro chose Amai, coro says she prefers Salmon with the reason "because of his interactions with Luna and ironace". She listed interactions between Salmon and ironace in her read list, but why is she mentioning Salmon/Luna now? She didn't even add this pairing here. To make Salmon look more suspicious than Floofs? Instead of discussing it further (there was still time left), she sends her PM to the host. I was wondering what sense it would make for mafia to have a duelist role. Essentially, it would allow the mafia to control the lynch of this day. Of course the duelist doesn't have to be seen as scummy and they need to make sure the other person is a townie. Coro brought up her claim early so that many people would see it. However, when it came to the decision who should be in the duel, she quickly accepted logic's vote and didn't discuss it with the others. So why bring it up early when you don't listen to everyone? Feels like she was glad logic provided her that input and when he brought up Amai, she suddenly added a Salmon/Luna pairing (which she didn't consider before) so it would make more sense to pick Salmon over Amai. This was also AFTER Salmon said he might not come back for phase change so the chance of him defending himself was low. - Here she says ironace and me can't be both town. But I don't understand why. 3 people had me in their suggestions for the roleblock and ironace suspected me as well, so it would make sense for a town RBer to block me. This doesn't make me automatically mafia though. - Switching from ironace to Luna based on her team combinations. - Starting to believe Amai more than ironace. But didn't give a reason for it. Later she admits that Amai hasn't done much, and bases it on role distribution. - Then she starts bringing up things to make it look like ironace/Luna are mafia by using weird reasons and contradicting herself. I pointed out these things in post #955 and #956. No reply yet. |
Aug 11, 2017 7:15 AM
#997
logic340 said: Noted this response but I do have a reason and a good one. Care to guess. I will share my reason in the next 45 minutes as I setup my thoughts for how this lynch should go. ...you believe me that coro is scum??? lol i have no idea. Enlighten me |
Aug 11, 2017 7:17 AM
#998
Luna said: My thoughts about coromandel. I can't comment all the posts, but here's the most important things that I noticed: - Votes ironace in her RVS vote. I've seen mafia buddies do this but usually they try not to make it look like a big deal. In this case though coro asked ironace quite a bit, also when he got another vote from me. - Votes ironace on D2 and she makes a good point about him. In the same post she says about Floofs "Floofs is laying low just like in the other game I've played with her. If she hadn't played the same way in Chad's game, I would be voting for her now." - After ironace starts being more active, coro changes her vote to Floofs ("I'm hoping this will make Floofs post more and give me an answer to the question I asked her earlier"). - Later she explains why she changed her votes, and changes her vote yet again to Red_Salmon ("my vote for Floofs isn't doing much anyway"). - Then she says more about Floofs (" ... Nothing she's done so far makes me think she's actually town. ..."). She didn't say WHY though. - Here she says ironace is now neutral to her - Prefers Salmon for today's lynch but changes her vote to Luna (pressure vote). Note: Salmon was online at the time and coro told him that he's hard to read for her because he hadn't posted much. But she didn't ask him any questions, only after I came online and posted a bit, she switched back to Salmon - Posts a read list. Makes huge cases about ironace and Salmon. Lists Floofs as scummy but only says about her "She hasn't made any posts that'd make me think she's town either" - Later says nothing that Floofs posted is AI. Still no in-depth explanation though. Also, she doesn't have anything to say about ironace's willingness to claim. - Then she claims her role, even when there's no pressure on her. Why would someone do this in this situation? Later she says: "I'm definitely going to use it today, but I wanted to let everyone read my claim first." So she had planned to use it anyway? Logic says his vote for the duel is Salmon and coro agrees without taking other people's opinions into account. When logic says he wouldn't be mad if coro chose Amai, coro says she prefers Salmon with the reason "because of his interactions with Luna and ironace". She listed interactions between Salmon and ironace in her read list, but why is she mentioning Salmon/Luna now? She didn't even add this pairing here. To make Salmon look more suspicious than Floofs? Instead of discussing it further (there was still time left), she sends her PM to the host. I was wondering what sense it would make for mafia to have a duelist role. Essentially, it would allow the mafia to control the lynch of this day. Of course the duelist doesn't have to be seen as scummy and they need to make sure the other person is a townie. Coro brought up her claim early so that many people would see it. However, when it came to the decision who should be in the duel, she quickly accepted logic's vote and didn't discuss it with the others. So why bring it up early when you don't listen to everyone? Feels like she was glad logic provided her that input and when he brought up Amai, she suddenly added a Salmon/Luna pairing (which she didn't consider before) so it would make more sense to pick Salmon over Amai. This was also AFTER Salmon said he might not come back for phase change so the chance of him defending himself was low. - Here she says ironace and me can't be both town. But I don't understand why. 3 people had me in their suggestions for the roleblock and ironace suspected me as well, so it would make sense for a town RBer to block me. This doesn't make me automatically mafia though. - Switching from ironace to Luna based on her team combinations. - Starting to believe Amai more than ironace. But didn't give a reason for it. Later she admits that Amai hasn't done much, and bases it on role distribution. - Then she starts bringing up things to make it look like ironace/Luna are mafia by using weird reasons and contradicting herself. I pointed out these things in post #955 and #956. No reply yet. Because of his constant back and forth readings and going everywhere, i thought he was tpr. But being scum makes more sense |
Aug 11, 2017 7:42 AM
#999
coromandel said: I wish this screamed unaligned pair but alas.....hmm.. it's the people who aren't posting atm that I'm most interested in. >.> Vote change: Floofs Idk if it's too early to unvote ironace, but I'm hoping this will make Floofs post more and give me an answer to the question I asked her earlier. |
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Aug 11, 2017 7:44 AM
#1000
Red_Salmon said: starting to think he was onto something. Coro-Scum Lean Here is why I suspect her #443 "To me, it's between Salmon/Abu/Floofs/ironace" That's literally more than 50% of the players. Very passive. Maybe you're scum and you know all of these guys are town and are worthy lynch victims. #443 votes ironace ==> #470 votes floofs ==> #492 votes me Either she's town who's just pissed at inactives (I can understand, sorry tho) or she's just being a passive scum. Going back and forth. Gaining townie points. vote:Coromandel |
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