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Feb 23, 2010 7:52 AM

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Reading is a crime?
Feb 23, 2010 8:41 AM

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cncfan said:
Reading is a crime?


Nah, reading while jerking of is. You'll get reported to the police by the papercut prevention society.

Seriously, I just read Iowa and said, "oh, whats new?"
Feb 23, 2010 8:51 AM

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wouldn't that also mean the person who created them would go to jail?
Feb 23, 2010 9:03 AM

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I think this is pretty dumb. We should read whatever we want no matter how messed up it is unless you meet the age. This isnt a Communist society.
Feb 23, 2010 10:50 AM

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Hard_Sir said:

Well sorry for my late reply I didn't have time to post on MAL at all so let's take a look. Hmm, apparently a weapon and a harmless item you can hardly use to kill somebody are on exactly the same level for you. It actually doesn't matter whether there are other cars on the road or not. A weapon is still a weapon unlike a comic book. A weapon has the potential to kill.


This is silly. I made an analogy between the law applied in the manga case and being ticketed for going five miles over a speed limit when there are no cars or pedestrians close by. You seem too dense to understand this; according to you, discharging a gun at an empty firing range is a "crime" too, because it involves a "weapon".

What are you, 12 years old?

Hard_Sir said:

Well but apparently that doesn't change a thing does it? It's like an atomic bomb as long as we dont kill anybody in our direct vicinity it doesn't matter if we use it or not.


I have no clue what you're even writing about here.

Hard_Sir said:
Also apparently police in the USA are partly psychotic. I don't really think so unless you're lying then the USA are one of the most dangerous countries in the world since police can freely ignore human rights. This was a good way to get you point across.


No, the police in the US are just fine, and I have never had problems with them. In fact, I'm happy that one can't swear and yell at them with impunity.

If you live in a country where someone CAN tell a cop to go fuck himself, and the police can do nothing in return but turn around and walk away, your country sucks, and you're probably jealous you can't live in the US.

Hard_Sir said:

Well you used the term "positive corrrelation" instead just the term "correlation".


A "negative" correlation would mean that people who watch/read pedophilia are LESS likely to commit sex crimes against minors. Which is fucking retarded.

So yes, there's a positive correlation, you nit-picking twit.

Hard_Sir said:

But then again we're not talking about pedophilia but lolicon and bestiality, as long as lolicon isn't classified as pedophile it isn't right to call it that way.


Bestiality is also against the law...except possibly in your country. I feel sorry for Hard_Sir's dog.

Hard_Sir said:

I don't agree with a lot of USA policies and double standards which are pretty evident if you have lived in different countries in different continents. Especially to what happened in Georgia and Afghanistan. There is nothing more irritating than those one-sided pieces of information that the average USA citizen receives, and yet I don't dislike America or Americans.


Not only do you not understand math, or the law, you're also a failure at current events and history. The conflict in Georgia had nothing to do with the United States; that was Russia.

Seriously, how uneducated does one have to be to confuse the US and Russia?

The rest of that paragraph are laughably incorrect assumptions from someone who knows nothing about the US. (The media is actually very anti-American, for instance)

Oh, and by the way, I wasn't born in the US. I immigrated here. I'm a European.
Feb 23, 2010 3:13 PM
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YoungVagabond said:


This is silly. I made an analogy between the law applied in the manga case and being ticketed for going five miles over a speed limit when there are no cars or pedestrians close by. You seem too dense to understand this; according to you, discharging a gun at an empty firing range is a "crime" too, because it involves a "weapon".

What are you, 12 years old?


The question is who's too dense here. And also if you didn't know discharging a gun in specially allowed areas is acceptable however isn't the same as discharging a gun in for example a park or in a living district even if there are no individuals nearby.

You can race your car at any speed in those racing tracks, it isn't however acceptable on a free highway for example because of the potentiality. It is a weapon nonetheless and you didn't take any precautions to be sure that there are no pedestrians. Also sadly I'm no twelve year old.

YoungVagabond said:

No, the police in the US are just fine, and I have never had problems with them. In fact, I'm happy that one can't swear and yell at them with impunity.

If you live in a country where someone CAN tell a cop to go fuck himself, and the police can do nothing in return but turn around and walk away, your country sucks, and you're probably jealous you can't live in the US.


You are a bit patriotic here. Indeed it is unacceptable to use violence unless it is justified. You're incapable to see any other solution here other than violence, so what does it say about your intellectual level?

And did I ever say they could do nothing, apparently no. Police officers have the right to arrest and use other sanctions and penalties, even violence in extreme cases. However just to beat up a citizen does not look too good.

YoungVagabond said:

So yes, there's a positive correlation, you nit-picking twit.


So why not just settle with the term "correlation" instead of qualifying it.

YoungVagabond said:

Bestiality is also against the law...except possibly in your country. I feel sorry for Hard_Sir's dog.


Well I was talking about lolicon. Bestiality as such is indeed illegal everywhere so I didn't get from where did you get the allusion that it was legal somewhere.
I also hate to tell you but my dog died a year ago so I don't think you're right to mock this fact.

YoungVagabond said:


Not only do you not understand math, or the law, you're also a failure at current events and history. The conflict in Georgia had nothing to do with the United States; that was Russia.

Seriously, how uneducated does one have to be to confuse the US and Russia?


At what point did I fail in math? Don't make me laugh, so who are you to tell me about maths? Someone who finished high school?

Also you're pretty simple minded how could you interpret them that way?

Well apparently I have to spell out everything for you. Did I ever say that it was US that invaded Georgia? No!
It was indeed Russia however for the first few weeks CNN did criticize actions taken by Russia as illegitimate, because they failed to mention that that when Ossetia was invaded by Georgia they brutally massacred Russian peacekeepers as well as civilians.

Russians responded by reconquering territories taken by Georgian army as well as passing over the Georgian boarders.

Saakashvili admitted of having received monetary founds from USA. It isn't however unknown whether it was due to pressure from Russia or not.

Concerning Afghanistan, while Russians were waging war there they were heavily criticized whereas right now the intervention of USA is regarded as something normal. USA also supported Al-Qaeda and talibans in Afghanistan but you apparently ignore it.

YoungVagabond said:

The rest of that paragraph are laughably incorrect assumptions from someone who knows nothing about the US. (The media is actually very anti-American, for instance)


Internal government by be criticized, this is not an issue. The problem is in the fact that you indeed do not following other channels like European news, al jazira, and Russia 24. The problem is with the information you receive about the outside world. Apparently there are only the USA in you case and nothing else. You didn't even consider the fact that I wasn't talking about self-criticism but about the point of view of the media about other policies and countries.

YoungVagabond said:

Oh, and by the way, I wasn't born in the US. I immigrated here. I'm a European.

Nice, at what age did you immigrate? If you were younger that 16 years old I think I can consider you an American instead.

I've got the feeling that you're trying to provoke me. Might I be right?
Feb 23, 2010 5:16 PM

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What if the viewer is younger than the actor in the porn (willing actor), but the actor is still underage?
Can the viewer then be condemned for watching pedophilic material?

My opinion of beastiliaty is as follows: Not attractive, but people have different tastes. As long as every participator in it is happy, i guess it's ok. The problem is, most puppies don't like getting dicks up their asses.
Trolls. Can't live with them, can't live without them. Because they barge in to every thread YOU can find, that's why.
Feb 23, 2010 7:58 PM

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I don't have the inclination to respond to the entirety of this idiocy fest, and I get the feeling "Hard_Sir" is some ADD-addled 12 year old with nothing better to do than write crappy flames of random posts, but I'll mention a few things;

Hard_Sir said:

YoungVagabond said:

A "negative" correlation would mean that people who watch/read pedophilia are LESS likely to commit sex crimes against minors. Which is fucking retarded.

So yes, there's a positive correlation, you nit-picking twit.


So why not just settle with the term "correlation" instead of qualifying it.


It must have taken you four years to learn the alphabet with this little of thickness. Let's copy and paste;

A "negative" correlation would mean that people who watch/read pedophilia are LESS likely to commit sex crimes against minors. Which is fucking retarded.

So yes, there's a positive correlation, you nit-picking twit.

Hard_Sir said:

YoungVagabond said:

Bestiality is also against the law...except possibly in your country. I feel sorry for Hard_Sir's dog.

Well I was talking about lolicon. Bestiality as such is indeed illegal everywhere so I didn't get from where did you get the allusion that it was legal somewhere.
I also hate to tell you but my dog died a year ago so I don't think you're right to mock this fact.


You should have been more gentle with him; your lust was too much.

Hard_Sir said:

At what point did I fail in math? Don't make me laugh, so who are you to tell me about maths? Someone who finished high school?


You didn't know that correlation was different than causation, or what a "positive correlation" means, even after it was explained to you. As for me, I'm a mathematician by education, and I do research at the university I graduated from in applied math.

Hard_Sir said:

Well apparently I have to spell out everything for you. Did I ever say that it was US that invaded Georgia? No!
It was indeed Russia however for the first few weeks CNN did criticize actions taken by Russia as illegitimate, because they failed to mention that that when Ossetia was invaded by Georgia they brutally massacred Russian peacekeepers as well as civilians.

Russians responded by reconquering territories taken by Georgian army as well as passing over the Georgian boarders.

Saakashvili admitted of having received monetary founds from USA. It isn't however unknown whether it was due to pressure from Russia or not.

Concerning Afghanistan, while Russians were waging war there they were heavily criticized whereas right now the intervention of USA is regarded as something normal. USA also supported Al-Qaeda and talibans in Afghanistan but you apparently ignore it.


You know, if someone started talking about their favorite type of dessert, you would turn the conversation into some vague, nonsensical rant about the evils of the United States and politics too, right? At least TRY to stick to the subject of this topic, troll.
Feb 24, 2010 9:22 AM
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I give up. I believe that there is no use whatsoever to continue this since you're incapable to discuss your point of view without insulting opposing party. In general people like you are in need of getting reassured but fail in the end.

You partly fail at understanding what you have read and you never even countered even one of my arguments. You still refer to lolicon, even if in the case of this thread materials used were not defined as pedophile to begin with.

If you have heard about catharsis maybe the opposite trend is taking place. I mean by using imaginary drawings they keep their impulses in check by avoiding their need to search for real pedophile materials as well as committing crime. I speak here about the pedophile population that does or does not watch those materials.

Just to be sure correlation is :"A reciprocal, parallel or complementary relationship between two or more comparable objects."

Nice I think I didn't get it wrong. Maybe you did?

Also what have you got against twelve-year-olds, some bad memories of your childhood?

Also I am not attracted to bestiality but if you are then you should know what to do. I don't even understand where you got this misunderstanding but maybe it's just your desire that you were hiding for so long.

If stupidity were a crime you would get a life sentence.

So here we have a mathematician, you understand that the only way for me to know weather you are one is to demand proof by giving you some sort of exercise and asking you to solve it. If you're ready for it you should pm me. Also you went down the easiest branch. Applied mathematics are inferior to pure mathematics in every aspect. Sorry to say that I'm not impressed.

The only reason why I was talking about those cases with the USA and their interventions was due to your nonsensical examples that annoyed me. Also I added bits and pieces in my commentaries that were relevant to the topic

I somehow feel myself in Special Olympics World Games when I'm talking with you. Even if I win I'd still be a retard for having kept this conversation for so long with you.

No further response to your posts will be given rest assured.
Feb 24, 2010 10:44 AM

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Hard_Sir said:

Bunch of nonsensical crap.


You have to love this troll; he goes into a topic, writes a provocative off-topic flame, and then, after being smacked down, and proven to be an idiot spewing forth random gibberish, replies with

Hard_Sir said:

I somehow feel myself in Special Olympics World Games when I'm talking with you. Even if I win I'd still be a retard for having kept this conversation for so long with you.

No further response to your posts will be given rest assured.


Of course, you know his statement is bullshit, and the sad basement-dwelling loser gets off on the attention. "Rest assured", Hard_Sir will be back to reply with more crappy insults about the Special Olympics, how evil the US is, and how pure math is "better" than applied math.

It's the only thing he has to look forward in his miserable life.
Feb 25, 2010 10:37 PM

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So I think Sukunai was just trolling. He never even came back after everybody pwned him.
Feb 26, 2010 12:05 AM

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The law is stupid somehow. It doesn't really protect anyone but cause citizens to go into trouble. This guy may not really harass any one in his life but may get harassed if he goes into the jail.
Feb 26, 2010 5:25 AM

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I'm dissappointed. I was hoping these two trolls would have a better troll war with each other...
Feb 27, 2010 3:30 AM
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Yep was expecting the same thing here.
Feb 27, 2010 9:51 AM

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Hard_Sir said:
Yep was expecting the same thing here.



You were fail too, though.
Feb 27, 2010 10:04 AM

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Nevermind this post. Temporary insanity. I literally lost it there for a moment and was just about to go full misanthropist. I'm in a better mood now, thankfully.

I'll probably delete this soon.
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Old avatar and sig retired for now.
Mar 2, 2010 11:01 PM

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Well at least my mailman doesn't go through my mail =/
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Mar 3, 2010 12:40 PM

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LOL. XDD But... Invading privacy much, that's his own business. It's not like the guy isn't able to control himself around a preschool, what an overreaction when he didn't even take any kind of sick action. Let him fap and fantasize in peace >_>
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