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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- That's "God"? Sounds more like a title rather than a name referred by that weird guy. However, I think he does have a strong connection with that Divine Tree. |
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| OK, i didn't expect this development at all... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Lol, things are getting interesting in this chapter. |
 “The dreams and ideals we believe in, seem they might just fall apart if we take our eyes off them.” |
| part 2 is more focus on buildup... some people realize what the tree actually doing! |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Woah, Teru was awesome! Seems like plant guy found the roots. |
“The dreams and ideals we believe in, seem they might just fall apart if we take our eyes off them.” |
| So it was Dimple after all, huh? I was hoping for something a bit more subtle, but this'll do too. |
| i laughed at the dropping it into the ocean thing but i don't think that's gonna work. seems like we will have another final showdown between mob and dimple. in a way this can kinda tie in to the past arc about mob believing people can change but idk if that's the same for evil spirits though. dimple has lost it if he really thinks he can beat mob, considering he just beat probably one of the strongest espers out there. |
slayerizedcarol said: dimple has lost it if he really thinks he can beat mob, considering he just beat probably one of the strongest espers out there. Yeah, but Dimple has absorbed a lot of energy, and his energy level is only increasing now that the tree is sucking more and more energy away from other living beings. So I can see why he thinks he can stand a chance against 100% Mob, especially in that environment, and I don't think Dimple knows about ???% yet (he was nearly destroyed in the fight against Teru, so he probably wasn't around to see what happened, and he left the girl's body in the Keiji Mogami Arc before Mob turned ???%). Maybe Mob's energy will be sucked away until his life is in danger and ???%-mode sets in. Or maybe not. Maybe Dimple has something else planned, or Keiji Mogami comes in to complicate things. We'll see. |
Animosh91Aug 8, 2016 11:20 AM
Animosh91 said: Yeah, but Dimple has absorbed a lot of energy, and his energy level is only increasing now that the tree is sucking more and more energy away from other living beings. So I can see why he thinks he can stand a chance against 100% Mob, especially in that environment, and I don't think Dimple knows about ???% yet (he was nearly destroyed in the fight against Teru, so he probably wasn't around to see what happened, and he left the girl's body in the Keiji Mogami Arc before Mob turned ???%). Maybe Mob's energy will be sucked away until his life is in danger and ???%-mode sets in. Or maybe not. Maybe Dimple has something else planned, or Keiji Mogami comes in to complicate things. We'll see. yo i like how you mentioned mogami because i feel this totally ties back to that specific arc. that is true about dimple's not really knowing about ???% and probably does think he stands a chance by sucking everyone's energy. it is actually terrifying to see teru's energy get drained, so mob going into ???% for survival is likely. i was thinking yesterday that dimple's energy relies on people's strong belief and he totally learned from his mistake in LOL arc. teru tried to attack him by not believing which is important. people's mind's can be easily changed but they can also hold on obsessively to some belief so i think it will really depend on mob if he can fight with that and not get drained completely. maybe he should bring reigen along since he's an expert at deceiving and blinding people from the truth. another thing that is a bit scary is that dimple's has the ability to make everyone forget about mob so who knows if he will use that to his advantage. i know that won't be nice for mob at all. i think that jealousy, alienation, distrust/betrayal, all these emotions are super huge and can help mob win. |
slayerizedcarol said: mob going into ???% for survival is likely. Yeah, especially because, as we saw in the episode yesterday, ???% can also absorb energy from its surroundings. More generally, I really hope we get some more development of the ???%-mode. It's such a mystery now. i think it will really depend on mob if he can fight with that and not get drained completely. I think he will try to talk some sense into Dimple at first. And you're right about how that ties back to the Keiji Mogami Arc: whether you should just give up on some people, or should hold out hope that they can change. After all the time that ONE has invested in Dimple, I doubt he will be given up easily, so I'm really not sure what will happen to him. Maybe he will get a chance to redeem himself? It's turning into a very interesting arc anyway, with a lot of potential for character development. |
| I think the most despairing thing that could come of this arc is Dimple (a person Mob thought had changed) turning everyone and everything against him, making everything he had worked up to since chapter 1 for naught. Especially with the past arc of friendship, bonding and Mob finally getting popular / confident in his own abilities. |
Animosh91 said: After all the time that ONE has invested in Dimple, I doubt he will be given up easily, so I'm really not sure what will happen to him. Maybe he will get a chance to redeem himself? It's turning into a very interesting arc anyway, with a lot of potential for character development. Legit, dimple is complex and honestly i can read Reigen a lot more than i can read him. I really don't know how it will turn out at all. I hope dimple just turns into a small puff of air and never tries to confront mob again. I feel like Mob is just gonna get all the emotional damage and I'm not ready. Helbram said: I think the most despairing thing that could come of this arc is Dimple (a person Mob thought had changed) turning everyone and everything against him, making everything he had worked up to since chapter 1 for naught. Especially with the past arc of friendship, bonding and Mob finally getting popular / confident in his own abilities. i'm gonna petition to have you as dangan ronpa's next despair prompt writer because i'm screaming at this. this is like the worst case scenario but i feel that it can happen!! I mentioned before how it already seemed like some people from school were like forgetting about him so what if he just literally turns everyone against him. omg no, i cry. |
slayerizedcarol said: Animosh91 said: After all the time that ONE has invested in Dimple, I doubt he will be given up easily, so I'm really not sure what will happen to him. Maybe he will get a chance to redeem himself? It's turning into a very interesting arc anyway, with a lot of potential for character development. Legit, dimple is complex and honestly i can read Reigen a lot more than i can read him. I really don't know how it will turn out at all. I hope dimple just turns into a small puff of air and never tries to confront mob again. I feel like Mob is just gonna get all the emotional damage and I'm not ready. Helbram said: I think the most despairing thing that could come of this arc is Dimple (a person Mob thought had changed) turning everyone and everything against him, making everything he had worked up to since chapter 1 for naught. Especially with the past arc of friendship, bonding and Mob finally getting popular / confident in his own abilities. i'm gonna petition to have you as dangan ronpa's next despair prompt writer because i'm screaming at this. this is like the worst case scenario but i feel that it can happen!! I mentioned before how it already seemed like some people from school were like forgetting about him so what if he just literally turns everyone against him. omg no, i cry. I crave for angst and am honored by your words. I think what's even sadder though is that the tree is basically Mob's creation, so he's not only indirectly responsible for the whole event by creating the tree (broccoli) that corrupted Dimple and his friends, but also for provoking Dimple into going through with his plan in the first place; and it's all because he finally stood up for himself. |
HelbramAug 12, 2016 3:24 AM
Animosh91 said: I have a hunch that this arc will specifically focus on this part of Mob's powers as opposed to his 100% modes. Since the central point of the Claw Boss arc was Mob's emotional growth (as examplified by his numerous successive explosions), an arc that adresses and expands on the more supernatural aspect of Mob Psycho's universe would be in my opinion a perfect follow-up.slayerizedcarol said: mob going into ???% for survival is likely. Yeah, especially because, as we saw in the episode yesterday, ???% can also absorb energy from its surroundings. More generally, I really hope we get some more development of the ???%-mode. It's such a mystery now. There are quite a few elements that seem to hint at the manga being headed in that direction, actually: the introduction of the youkai, some of whom were absorbed by Dimple/the Tree; the main antagonist being an spiritual entity as opposed to a human organisation (which kindof marks a return to form for the series considering that Mogami was the last arc where Mob and co. had to deal with otherworldly threats); the whole concept of a Divine Tree spreading its roots further and further into the city and corrupting its inhabitants, which does have a very mystical vibe to it etc. Now that I think about it, could it be that the opening sequence in the first episode of the anime (where ??? Mob fights off a horde of monsters) may have been foreshadowing for this very arc? Since the only other time where Mob goes ??? % after his confrontation with Teru is against Mogami, and Mogami's spirits look nothing like the creatures that appear in this scene. Like you and others have surmised, I'm certain that Mob will try and talk Dimple out of it, but I'm not sure it'll work. This arc definitely shows a lot of promise because unlike say the Boss or Asagiri, it isn't a matter of believing in a fellow human being's potential for change this time around: it's a person that lived, died and was reborn as a malicious entity. Is it really possible for an evil spirit such as Dimple to go against his very nature, even though the bond he formed with Mob and the things he saw him endure weren't enough for him to deviate from his initial objective? I personally always had reservations about the idea that everyone has the ability to change and better themselves, so it would be particularly interesting to see how the author tries and challenge or bring nuance to his own argument. I really feel like this arc could end up being the best in the whole series if done right. |
SapewlothSep 27, 2016 2:15 PM
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Sapewloth said: an arc that adresses and expands on the more supernatural aspect of Mob Psycho's universe would be in my opinion a perfect follow-up. Yes, I agree! I've also read the theory that ???% has been transferred to the tree somehow (which would explain the energy absorption), but I personally hope it will focus on ???% as a part of Mob. If this really is the last arc, as many people seem to think, more development of ???% should definitely come, and there should be progress in Mob's struggle with accepting and controlling his powers too. But I'm not so sure this will really be the last arc. There still are so many loose threads to resolve, so many questions to answers. Now that I think about it, could it be that the opening sequence in the first episode of the anime (where ??? Mob fights off a horde of monsters) may have been foreshadowing for this very arc? Yeah, I thought about that too, but I'm not sure if it's foreshadowing or just them showing off (it's a very pretty sequence after all!). None of those spirits looks anything like Dimple, and letting the spirits Dimple and the Tree absorbed break free would be a repeat of the Mogami Arc, which would be dull. So I'm not sure how it could tie into this arc, but I'm ready to be surprised! I personally always had reservations about the idea that everyone has the ability to change and themselves, so it would be particularly interesting to see how the author tries and challenge or bring nuance to his own argument. Yeah, it feels kind of childish, doesn't it? People don't change that easily, and by giving them a second chance you might sometimes seriously endanger other people. But ONE is a very optimistic writer so I don't think he'll give up on Dimple. If he dies (again), he'll probably die in peace, after having redeemed himself. But I agree that adding some nuance to his optimism, without altogether destroying it, would be very much appreciated. |
Animosh91Aug 18, 2016 1:04 AM
| Ritsu, nooooooo! :C Damn candy.. :l |
“The dreams and ideals we believe in, seem they might just fall apart if we take our eyes off them.” |
| And Reigen too, while Teru has probably been defeated. Which means Mob is all alone at this point, against the entire city. This really is starting to look like last arc material. |
Animosh91 said: Not necessarily: given what happened to Reigen it's pretty safe to say that most if not all regular citizens can be (and have been) brainwashed directly or indirectly at this point, but we don't really know how Broccoli's influence affects psychics. Teru fought off the brainwashing almost immediately; Minegishi seemed to be fine before he realized something was wrong with the roots of the Divine Tree; Mob is completely unaffected and Ritsu's case can be easily explained by his lack of experience with his PK abilities.And Reigen too, while Teru has probably been defeated. Which means Mob is all alone at this point, against the entire city. we don't know Shou's whereabouts at the moment but if he's still in Spice City he could lend Mob a hand, especially if Ritsu's in danger. Serizawa is still at school atm but judging from the omake he's doing alright as well. If anything, I think we could see some interesting and unexpected alliances being formed in this arc, provided ONE takes the story in that direction. I'm not 100% convinced it's gonna happen, so I'm not holding my breath, but I'd really want to see it. |
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Sapewloth said: Not necessarily I mostly meant that all of his emotional support is gone: his friends, his family, his mentor. And I expect Tsubomi to be used against him at some point as well ("get a grip, Mob!" - or something like that). But it's true that there are still some powerful psychics left who could help out. Aside from the people you mentioned (Shou, Serizawa), there's also Shimazaki, and Keiji Mogami too, of course. I'm not sure how helpful they can be, but still. I do kind of expect (and hope) Mob to be all alone in the end (not just emotionally), but I might be wrong about that. |
Animosh91Sep 5, 2016 11:41 AM
| Reigen is still definitely on Mob's side, and I don't see him turning any time soon Also I'm calling it; chapter 100 will the the final chapter. There will probably be super long chapters for the finale, and chapter 100 will tie everything up. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
FullyErect said: Reigen is still definitely on Mob's side, and I don't see him turning any time soon You may want to rethink that opinion. ;) |
Animosh91Sep 7, 2016 7:33 AM
| Reigen is definitely brainwashed now. e.e |
“The dreams and ideals we believe in, seem they might just fall apart if we take our eyes off them.” |
Animosh91 said: FullyErect said: Reigen is still definitely on Mob's side, and I don't see him turning any time soon You may want to rethink that opinion. ;) Still pretty ambiguous tbh. Mob might be on to something but it's possible that he's also become a bit too paranoid. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Not that ambiguous. I think it's pretty obvious Dimple is using Reigen to keep Mob from interfering, just as he tried to use Ritsu. Just a moment ago he talked about "herd mentality" and "brainwashing", and suggested that they destroy the Divine Tree and "kick his [Psycho Helmet's] ass and free everyone from the brainwashing", and all the sudden he is praising the leadership qualities of Psycho Helmet, and says Mob should leave them be? Sure, Mob might be wrong, but I don't think that 's very likely at this point. In fact, Reigen almost explicitly confessed that he's a part of the Psycho Helmet Cult now ("The truth is, I also...") before being stopped by Mob. So, yeah, I think he's gone to the dark side for now. |
Animosh91 said: Not that ambiguous. I think it's pretty obvious Dimple is using Reigen to keep Mob from interfering, just as he tried to use Ritsu. Just a moment ago he talked about "herd mentality" and "brainwashing", and suggested that they destroy the Divine Tree and "kick his [Psycho Helmet's] ass and free everyone from the brainwashing", and all the sudden he is praising the leadership qualities of Psycho Helmet, and says Mob should leave them be? Sure, Mob might be wrong, but I don't think that 's very likely at this point. In fact, Reigen almost explicitly confessed that he's a part of the Psycho Helmet Cult now ("The truth is, I also...") before being stopped by Mob. So, yeah, I think he's gone to the dark side for now. Having reread it, it doesn't seem much like praising although that part where Reigen suggests they go home is definitely fishy It'a more likely than not that Reigen has turned at this point though not totally proven, and I can imagine ONE pulling a fast one on the reader. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
FullyErect said: Having reread it, it doesn't seem much like praising He says he's "not a bad guy", despite the fact that he's brainwashing everyone and is manipulating Mob's friends and family, and that he's a good leader who is making sure the cult runs smoothly and has earned the respect of those around him in virtue of his hard work. That sound like praise to me. I can imagine ONE pulling a fast one on the reader. It's possible, but I think that's unlikely at this point. Aside from all the signs, Mob is rarely wrong about these kinds of things. |
Animosh91Sep 9, 2016 4:29 AM
| Well shit Looks like Mob really is alone this time Unlike last time against dimple though, he's much stronger as a person but I doubt it'll be as easy as going 100% |
Aure0linSep 25, 2016 8:10 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Now everyone knows that Mob is the real Psycho Helmet! More pressure on Mob means more chance of him backing down/being defeated, that's some mind game the broccoli is playing! Well, at least Mob is not as shy or awkward as he used to be. The rumored final arc reaching its climax... I love where this is going. |
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