Do you complain a lot yourself?
kamisama751 said: Mamster-P said: @Wensbane plenty of ecchi fans have told me they appreciate what i do... so that's honestly all that matters lol considering how many of them got turned away from AD because of how many of the threads were made, even before i appeared @kamisama751 says the kid who inspired me to make the signature looooollll thanks for that btw <333 What? How have I inspired you making this. xD you werent the only one but you were the main person who kept saying that "i was trying to make ppl like ecchi", so i just said fuck it, im going to turn this into a signature as a joke |
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Wensbane said: @Mamster-P That's exactly right! Keep doing exactly what you're doing, you're doing your cause a great service. You're the ecchi hero we need and deserve. nice..... joke...... lol i mean it is true that many of them left AD cause they got tired of the constant hate..... thats not a lie lol ofc if you're a fan of something yet 4x a week you keep seeing ppl shit on what you love, you're gonna say fuck it, unless ofc you have the warrior mentality like the few of us you keep seeing here do |
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| Because critique is fun! I don't like to make whiny blanket statements like "X genre/style is killing anime" or anything like that, but I like to consider the positives and flaws of any anime I am watching, and this applies to all media. Media in general becomes better through criticism. |
| People die when they are killed OP i complain sometimes, but only when i feel like the hype surrounding certain animes isn't deserved |
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| First off... pointing out flaws of a show(or being critical)=/= complaining. Now that we have that out of the way.... People who complain about the general state of anime just feels entitled as hell. Well, I addressed that in this locked thread months ago. |
kamisama751 said: Mamster-P said: you werent the only one but you were the main person who kept saying that "i was trying to make ppl like ecchi", so i just said fuck it, im going to turn this into a signature as a joke To be honest I think you have already got this sig even before my first "encounter" with you. Wensbane said: @Mamster-P That's exactly right! Keep doing exactly what you're doing, you're doing your cause a great service. You're the ecchi hero we need and deserve. Hey bro, wanna bash some echi with me? 'Cause that will be entertaining internet drama. :D no no no no, i promise i made it after all that trolling your profile, thats part of where the "my son" joke came from lol lol well i mean at this point, sure ill still flame ecchi hate threads, but as free as you guys are to hate on it, im free to defend it you can't claim im annoying yet act as if all the hate ecchi gets isn't annoying to us lol |
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TiaDee said: Tevens said: i have a couter question too. why do people complain about other people's complain for complaining other people's complain. And the plot thickens! Also to answer the question, because people like bitching, they like bitching so much that they even bitch about other people bitching. the only thing to stop the complain right away is to give a logical and acceptable solution to the person who complain. but if they think japanese would response to their complain moreover still complaining............ |
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| There are lots of things people like to complain about. Such as: >complaining about anime >complaining about people who complain about anime |
kamisama751 said: Mamster-P said: no no no no, i promise i made it after all that trolling your profile, thats part of where the "my son" joke came from lol lol well i mean at this point, sure ill still flame ecchi hate threads, but as free as you guys are to hate on it, im free to defend it you can't claim im annoying yet act as if all the hate ecchi gets isn't annoying to us lol Nah, both sides are entertaining and I will block you if you are going to troll my profile once more. :D ive already promised i won't lol AltoRoark said: There are lots of things people like to complain about. Such as: >complaining about anime >complaining about people who complain about anime extra guilty of the latter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| Why do you think that complaining is unique to anime? People love complaining about everything; it's not like it's anything new or special when it comes to this particular medium. No matter what it is, what it's about or anything like that, you will find people complaining about it, regardless of whether or not their complaints are even justified. But the thing is, you're on a forum that's specifically meant to be about discussion and debating. Why wouldn't you expect to come across disgruntled people who saw something they didn't like and decided to voice that? I mean, if a topic is made about something, and a person didn't like it, it makes sense that their comment wouldn't necessarily be a positive one. It's not like someone has less of a right to post their opinion just because it might be a negative one. If a person likes a trope and another person dislikes a trope, both of them are just as entitled to talk about it. Complaining is, at the end of the day, a manner of expressing one's opinion. It might not be the best manner of doing so, but it's a manner nonetheless. |
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| I've never actively complained about anything on this forum regarding the content of anime or about anime creators. I'm okay with how the industry is doing things. That being said, us humans are never satisfied with what we have, we want more, we want something else/new. It's not a bad thing, but one needs to learn to be happy with what they get too. The way people complain is to be differentiated and noted. Many a times I've seen a sense of entitlement coming from a lot of users where they feel that anime should cater to their needs specifically. I don't support that sense of entitlement. There are also times when people want something to be better because they felt it could'v been or feel it could be better and enhance the anime watching experience for everyone. I can get behind that sentiment. I don't see it as a problem as most people chime in, give their two cents on the topic and move on. |
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| Because they have nothing better to do with their lives ofc. |
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| There's nothing wrong with expressing opinion and I don't consider it to be 'complaining'. If you don't want to hear people expressing their opinions then you should ask yourself why you're on the forums in the first place. Mamster-P said: "i wish the anime industry would stop doing this and do more of this" please..... just stop.... just appreciate whats being given.... I never really understood that attitude. Is that what Iraq said about George W Bush? |
| This is a forum, anime forum. people express their opinion about anime here. And generally, people complain about everything. |
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Gesu- said: There's nothing wrong with expressing opinion and I don't consider it to be 'complaining'. If you don't want to hear people expressing their opinions then you should ask yourself why you're on the forums in the first place. Mamster-P said: "i wish the anime industry would stop doing this and do more of this" please..... just stop.... just appreciate whats being given.... I never really understood that attitude. Is that what Iraq said about George W Bush? i would think theres a HUGE difference between a real world issue and complaining about Chinese cartoons that you have no control over -___- |
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| i don't know what to complain anymore... |
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| Because if nobody raises their voice, we'll just continue to be inundated with substandard filth like SAO and Erased. |
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Mamster-P said: Gesu- said: There's nothing wrong with expressing opinion and I don't consider it to be 'complaining'. If you don't want to hear people expressing their opinions then you should ask yourself why you're on the forums in the first place. I never really understood that attitude. Is that what Iraq said about George W Bush? i would think theres a HUGE difference between a real world issue and complaining about Chinese cartoons that you have no control over -___- Okay how about this; Would you say the same for the new ghostbusters trailer? If people don't like something they're gonna speak up about it. That's what separates us from all the other life forms on earth. |
| Out of all those options can you guess which I chose? People complain because they arent satisfied with what they are watching. |
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| The only thing i really complain about is the fact that so many people complain about anime just to sound smart or just to hate. I just want to defend a bunch of underrated shows |
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Gesu- said: Mamster-P said: i would think theres a HUGE difference between a real world issue and complaining about Chinese cartoons that you have no control over -___- Okay how about this; Would you say the same for the new ghostbusters trailer? If people don't like something they're gonna speak up about it. That's what separates us from all the other life forms on earth. i didn't complain about the ghost busters trailer, i show i don't give a shit about it by not watching it..... look at all the "Justin Bieber haters"... giving him all this free publicity, giving his videos millions of views hence giving him more money... yeah, shows how much they "hate him" im not a Justin Bieber hater, but i do ignore his music, i don't harp on about how hes "destroying music" but yes, just as free as you guys are to complain, i am to complain about you complaining im not a masochist, theres way too much complaining about something i love for me not to retaliate |
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Zelkiiro said: Even if you raise your voice, you'll still continued to be inundated with substandard filth like SAO and Erased :/Because if nobody raises their voice, we'll just continue to be inundated with substandard filth like SAO and Erased. Nothing you can do about it! |
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Mamster-P said: Gesu- said: Okay how about this; Would you say the same for the new ghostbusters trailer? If people don't like something they're gonna speak up about it. That's what separates us from all the other life forms on earth. i didn't complain about the ghost busters trailer, i show i don't give a shit about it by not watching it..... look at all the "Justin Bieber haters"... giving him all this free publicity, giving his videos millions of views hence giving him more money... yeah, shows how much they "hate him" im not a Justin Bieber hater, but i do ignore his music, i don't harp on about how hes "destroying music" but yes, just as free as you guys are to complain, i am to complain about you complaining im not a masochist, theres way too much complaining about something i love for me not to retaliate Idk it's just that whenever we try to talk about stuff you make us look like we're retarded or something. |
| @Gesu- thats not how i intend to come off lol im sharing my opinions about ppl complaining just as much as you're sharing yours about the source material you're under no obligation to agree with anything i say its not like im "right" but neither is anyone else. the fact is whining isn't going to influence the industry and imo, it shouldn't... anime should continue to cater towards the japanese and their culture and those of them who want to look outside japan can do so if they please and like i said, before, its just annoying af seeing ppl whine constantly about something you love, and as an anime fan, its not like dodging AD on MAL is going to get me away from that but what can i really say other than *haters gon hate?* |
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| they complain because they hate their own existence and instead throw their meaningless opinions on others because they feel so shit yet are too lazy to fix their lives.... Instead spending eternity in their moms house playing with body pillows and playing video games until they eventually die of internet retardation .... inspired by : filthy frank - 2014 - (he cant fucking die |
Mamster-P said: thats not how i intend to come off lol im sharing my opinions about ppl complaining just as much as you're sharing yours about the source material you're under no obligation to agree with anything i say Fair enough its not like im "right" but neither is anyone else. the fact is whining isn't going to influence the industry and imo, it shouldn't... anime should continue to cater towards the japanese and their culture and those of them who want to look outside japan can do so if they please I know that it doesn't but that's not gonna stop me from trying to speak up about how I would've liked it. Also I don't see it as a west vs east thing. People complaining about the very existence of echchi are dumb. But otherwise whenever I see someone talking about the quality of an anime I don't see them complaining about how it was meant to cater to the japanese. Your problem seems to be with echchi haters I guess it's just that you generalize those people along with people like watching anime because they like to weigh out their pros and cons. Those are two different things.. Are echchi haters your only problem? Or do you have a problem with anyone who wants to discuss anime? Just wanted to clear things up.. |
| Cause we just want to let some steam out? And because we hate the shit out of that trope/genre/character/show/etc..and we can't just bottle it all up inside. We are expressive beings. Bow ~~what bugs me though is when people hate you for complaining. Like bech, i don't like it, i hate it, am I not allowed to hate it? Am I not allowed to complain? You go like that show and I'll go hate the show. Ok ... ok. good. Let's agree to disagree |
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Gesu- said: Mamster-P said: thats not how i intend to come off lol im sharing my opinions about ppl complaining just as much as you're sharing yours about the source material you're under no obligation to agree with anything i say Fair enough its not like im "right" but neither is anyone else. the fact is whining isn't going to influence the industry and imo, it shouldn't... anime should continue to cater towards the japanese and their culture and those of them who want to look outside japan can do so if they please I know that it doesn't but that's not gonna stop me from trying to speak up about how I would've liked it. Also I don't see it as a west vs east thing. People complaining about the very existence of echchi are dumb. But otherwise whenever I see someone talking about the quality of an anime I don't see them complaining about how it was meant to cater to the japanese. Your problem seems to be with echchi haters I guess it's just that you generalize those people along with people like watching anime because they like to weigh out their pros and cons. Those are two different things.. Are echchi haters your only problem? Or do you have a problem with anyone who wants to discuss anime? Just wanted to clear things up.. my problem is far from only with ecchi haters.... it just seems like thats what it is because 1. ecchi is the most controversial element in anime, so people tend to notice when ppl defend it 2. ecchi is/was the most brought up subject 3. am an ecchi fan its like ppl don't notice the rants i go on in other threads like is anime dying? anime sucks now loli is bad is it bad if i? will i be judged? etc people just don't notice because those subjects minus loli (which is rarely brought up) aren't controversial, so despite my rants in those threads its not what im known for... i went on the same "stop shaming sexualization, especially of fictional characters" rant in the recent "is shouta/yaoi" killing anime? thread but ofc thats another subject that is rarely brought up and we know ppl don't complain about men being sexualized to anywhere near the degree they do women, so despite not being a fan of shouta or yaoi, me defending it was something people can look past its whining about anime in general that i can't stand anime i don't like = bad generic = bad pandering = bad fanbase of this = losers etc i know much of the time its just shit posting, trolling, not entirely serious or w/e but when you've seen it 345245235452525452543256246246456 times in many different anime related places, you know, it might get annoying to the point where you feel have to speak up so no, discussing anime isn't the problem, analyzing anime isn't the problem.... its the constant whining about it and the fanbases that is annoying but ofc this is just my opinion as i feel i have to state |
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| Why do people complain about people complaining instead of engaging in discussions? |
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| People complain about everything. Anime included. |
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| Criticism always lead to potential improvement. |
| To keep it short. Nothing is perfect, it's done to eliminate oversights and hopefully influence future anime productions for the better. Of course I acknowledge those who criticize everything, and trolls as a source of complaints but "ignorance is bliss" as they say, no? |
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| "Why do people complain about what they're passionate about" Jesus christ I see people complain about people complaining too often here on MAL. It's called criticism. People who enjoy reading novels criticize other novels, and people don't usually complain about them complaining. The same applies to movies. It's called being passionate about what you enjoy. |
| Even if one were to love something, that doesn't mean they can complain about the flaws they find within it. Whilst yes, there are some people who complain about something just because they like complaining, there are a lot of people who genuinely like anime. But when you begin to find flaws within an anime, that doesn't mean you stop liking it entirely. If one finds flaws in something they love, they have a deeper understanding of the thing they love. They can wish for the thing to improve, or love it despite its flaws. When they point out these flaws, it just can mean they put a lot of thought in something they watch, which can also be a way to enjoy anime, and even deepen the general enjoyment someone receives of an anime. |
| People like to complain about a variety of things. I also complain about anime, but I mostly keep it to myself. I mean can you imagine how fucking retarded I'd look if I came to MAL making threads about why people like what I don't like.... Oh wait...that's a daily occurrence around here... |
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