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Jan 26, 2017 12:09 PM

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Seems like I dodged a bullet with the (what I hear to be) three-times computer-translated sub that went via Korean dubs (??)

Gainax on 2nd Key Animation... how the mighty have fallen.

Feb 1, 2017 3:11 AM

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So I finally got the time to watch it and oh boy... kinda disappointed. They could've done so much more with the Black Organization, but it falls so flat that it's so unoriginal. So many mysterious potential just turned into full on action FBI stuffs.

Let's see here:

Gin, Vermouth and Vodka are hunting down the lists with only Kir and Bourbon left that was saved by Akai. Then what? Kir is *poof* gone from the story.

Then this Curacao girl is doing the cliche I was hoping they won't fucking do in anime ever. Making a villain becoming a good person by sacrificing themselves because of the kids. Damn, cliche is so bad that makes the whole scene make my eyes rolled. They could've ended it with Gin killing Curacao mistakenly as a NOC.

Also wtf was Kogoro and Ran even did in this one? It's like they need to be forced to join the movie for fan service or something. Ran doing the "SHINICHI WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU" line every SINGLE MOVIE. Kinda get old don't you think?

So badly disappointed. Even the sunflower movie last year was better because they do detective stuffs, making Haibara x Conan scene (lol, this is what I called good fanservice) and obviously Kaito Kid's "villainous" appearance.

Feb 16, 2017 3:20 PM

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If they hadn't tried to fill the movie with almost the entire main cast of the series it would probably have become a better movie storywise. The action scenes were exciting and looked great though.
Feb 21, 2017 9:47 AM

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lol a half-assed happy ending after the heroine got pierced, squished and burned to death.. mental .-.
Mar 19, 2017 7:32 PM
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So it's been a year since release and 5 months since blu-ray release. 21st movie comes out next month. Can a sub group PLEASE pick this up WITH Japanese Audio and know how to use CAPITALS AND PUNCTUATION!

I don't like the Korean audio and I don't like a non-capitalized sub track on the JAPANESE version. Please. Someone provide assistance or at least proofread the previous versions. It's not impossible and would greatly be appreciated. I'd like to have a hint about RUM before the manga properly reveals the character in the next 11 chapters leading up to chapter 1000. It's a milestone that I'd like to celebrate with the 20th anniversary film.
Thanks for reading. :)
Sep 30, 2017 11:11 AM

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I really liked it, maybe the plot isn't the best this franchise can offer, but there is BO, Haibara and Akai. I probably don't need anything more to enjoy a Conan movie. Oh, and the animation was really great so yeah, that's a 8/10 for me ^^
Oct 1, 2017 8:09 PM

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I found the movie serviceable. There are issues I had, though.

1) How resilient the characters are. I get they have to be alive, but there's no way they're walking away from all that destruction with scratches. There's NO way every single person lived through all of that; people have to be dead. I don't like how the police resolution and the deaths of these NPCs of both situations are just glossed over.

2) The lack of explanation of Curaçao's ability/condition. I was pretty interested in the idea and after all the exposition the characters delivered, I was expecting the same for her, but again... just glossed over. :S Feels like a cheap way to use amnesia again.

3) How did Akai know where Amuro and Kir were?

4) The ending. I get what they were going for, but it was weak. Felt like they ran out of time rather than a "leave it for the viewer to answer"-type of ending.

5) Genta.

6) Vermouth felt like a waste? I love me some Vermouth, but I don't see why she, specifically, needed to be there. Probably because they didn't have another BO member to use, lol.

7) Shoehorning Ran. I swear they are contractually obligated to have her and her wondering about Shinichi in every movie and it's completely annoying. She serves no purpose. Why send her the pic? Doesn't Conan have Takagi's number like Mitsuhiko? If she just appeared with the children and left with Sonoko without the whole "find Shinichi" nonsense, more time would have been freed to make a better ending. Kogoro too. All he did was sleep! At least the other characters could say they had some kind of role.

8) Timeframe. This all takes place within, what? 3 days?, and yet the BO could go from across the world to Japan all in time to shoot up a ferris wheel. A biiiit unbelievable there, guys. Too bad the movie couldn't get Gosho to create a few more (canon) BO members for this movie. Then they could have an excuse to have some German in their movie!

I know there wasn't much mystery in this one, but I didn't mind it too much. I could tell they were going for a more faster pace where the "mystery" was more figuring out the situation and how to do deal with the BO. Better to have no mystery than a terrible one. I don't mind Curaçao dying - it was believable. It's not that she turned "good" but rather wanted to live the life she got a taste of when she was with the kids. She even says as much! Even if she got away, there's no way she'd survive without checking into a hospital; might as well go out with a bang. There could have been more done with her character, though, even if it felt similar to Sherry. The action felt like it had a purpose (except Amuro vs Akai's) even if the Amuro vs Curaçao fight was lame. Overall, this movie suffered from wasting time on irrelevant fluff weakening it.

Despite that... I kinda enjoyed it?? Not the best BO movie, but better than movie 13, imo. I like Curaçao a lot better than Irish.
Modified by Sakarii, Oct 1, 2017 8:13 PM
Nov 6, 2017 12:18 AM

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She kicking ass.
She had on a wig and contacts.
She sent the message.
Tokyo Drift.
Akai? lol at him in the red car.
Dat shit.
lol at Akai and Furuya's relationship.
lol They just gonna go play with her and not treat her cuts and stuff.
Dumbass Genta.
Ai look shook.
LMAO at Hakase being the one to get treated.
Kuro no soshiki #2?
Dat Engrish.
Dat headshot. +150
Dat Engrish again.
She's pointing the gun at Furuya.
Dumbass Genta almost falling from just sitting.
Ai grabbing Shinichi.
Furuya escaped.
Shuuichi and Furuya meet again.
They're going at it.
She got her memory back. But did he see the pantsu? That is the question.
She lied.
She saved Ai.
Furuya almost died.
She got hit.
Dat kick.
I see those people running away went to the Prometheus school of running away from things.
Oh shit. She got a rod in her.
Holy shit! Dat explosion.
Ai booty.
She died.

And that was the end. It was good. This was the first time I watched Conan since around the early 2000's. The only reason I watched this was due to it releasing 1 week before Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions and it having a similar subtitle to it. I wasn't bothered by how the characters looked until later on in the movie. My goodness. Those kids were annoying as fock. Mostly Genta and the other boy. Best parts were the action scenes and Furuya and Shuuichi. :) I know the ship is Shinichi x Ran, but I started shipping Shinichi x Ai.
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Nov 19, 2017 8:44 AM
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I really don't care about the story that much in DC movies because I already know their focus is almost entirely on the action scenes which this movie did a really good job on. It also included akai, amuro, and the organization that alone made this movie worthwhile for me.

Nov 20, 2017 11:27 AM

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Hmm. Shouldn't Akai be in disguise to avoid endangering Kir?
Jan 2, 2018 2:19 PM

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Curacao... I cri...

Gin must have a bad reputation. When Curacao heard who was coming to collect her, she jumped ship...

(lol if you hear that Gin is coming to collect you, it could be they're going to kill you...)

The cliche of a villain who has a soft spot for kids and so she lies to protect conan and the kids and sacrifices her life in the end. Action was good, enough to cover plot holes by use of anime action logic.

It was a thrilling movie and emotional one for me.

As usual they have Ran and Kogoro appear as bystanders even though they're not related to this plot at all XD and the other things

Still a solid detective movie, an action one is nice every once in a while.

A bittersweet cliche ending that attempts to tie all the loose ends to not interfere with the main story much... I'm still a sucker for things like these...

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Jan 26, 2018 1:20 PM

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Rest in peace. I really liked her.

I don't really love this movie but it was enjoyable overall. The mystery was weak here. I want something as good as movie 5 which had amazing thrills and a good mystery subplot!

vikki_tofu said:
Hmm. Shouldn't Akai be in disguise to avoid endangering Kir?
Yeah, many things confused me about this movie. It's like a lot of things were forgotten to fit this movie.


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Mar 31, 2018 2:22 AM

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I recently watched this movie after it went up on Hulu Jp
I loved it! But...that's because it was filled with fanservice and sadly I am indeed a fangirl.

As long as you keep in mind that it isn't meant to be canon and just some fun for families to enjoy during the springtime, I don't see any reason to hate on this (although each to their own).

I'll probably end up watching this one again and it's got me pretty excited to go and see movie 22 in the cinema on Friday the 13th (๑╹ω╹๑ )
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Aug 19, 2019 6:44 PM

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Idk why people still come to watch Conan movies for the mystery, most of them focus on something else, like: History, Romance, Action, and Thriller.
The starting car scene was AMAZING, holy shit, that OST hyped me a load fuck.
And... Poor Curaçao T.T

The more I watch the Classics(Ashita no Joe, The Kindaichi Files, Prince of Tennis, Detective Conan, the Gundam series...), more my admiration for them furthers, the Quality(The surgical OSTs, Innovative sound effects, Developing emotions on the act[for instance, a rage], Amazing Comic timings, Subtle romances, and even Culture) you see on those Classics isn’t really on the industry anymore, you should definitely check them!

Dec 28, 2019 7:58 AM

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I enjoyed the movie. Seeing these guys work together Amuro-Conan-Akai was pretty exciting.

Detective boys were really annoying. Actually for me, they are always annoying.
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Jan 1, 10:16 AM

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Now that's the standard I expect the Detective Conan movies to live upto! I feel this one of the finest movies of this francise. Not only we got a car chase scene and gunfights, but also a hand-to-hand showdown between Akai and Amuro. The plot was easy to follow and wasn't too convoluted.
Overall, an energetic start sitting alone in front of laptop to 2020 with Movie 20! (On a side note, it seems half of the Japanese economy in Conan's world is run by the Suzuki Corporation....)
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