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A tell-tale sign of having an urgent need to pay the psychiatrist a visit: Theodor, you should have been strangling her, not her TSF... Particularly due to her rudeness, Pham didn't even get to finish the sentence. Considering everything that has happened, I'm glad that Anett was spared. I just hope she won't relapse into her PTSD. |
| That was brutal. I get why people hate Lise, but she has had it terribly hard. Life has been literally hell ever since she was placed into the Stasi as a result of being forced to do the most heinous of things. That thing will break anybody remotely sane and Lise was a normal girl before all of this shit so her situation is more than understandable. Unfortunately though as things stand and the things that she has done, she is earning a lot of death flags. Not that she really deserved them since she an evil kind of insane but rather a one full of despair and without any glimmer of hope left sans in achieving the goal that made her do all of this in the first place, i.e. being with Theodor. If that fails then everything would be in vain and thus she would lose any purpose. She is a total mess now, and it isn't even her fault to begin with. I can sympathize with her, but I can hardly see her living though. All of that turns our attention to asshole number 1, i.e. Axmann. This asshat is gonna get off'd for real and hopefully so in the most horrible manner possible. Unlike Lise, this son of a bitch deserves to suffer. |
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Fuck yea, #TeamLise all the way. She really spiced up Schwarzesmarken. I couldn't imagine the show without her, lol! Meanwhile, Katia to be one of the most uninteresting characters of the show. The fact that she appears like one of the most privileged characters whom everyone wants to protect because she's the daughter of some war hero makes words carry less weight than say, if they came from others like say, Iris, who despite sharing the same views, inspires some well-earned respect. Come to think of it, Katia didn't really do much besides just being there... And of course, such character had to be a moeblob too, go figure. |
| So she did screw many hungry men before, lmao. Now she killed Pham. I can't believe that shit. Neither can I believe Theodor didn't finish her off when he had the fucking chance right there, realizing she can't be saved anymore right after that. No shit. Little bit too late. Fucking wimp. |
ReverberateMar 7, 2016 11:22 AM
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| ohh wow about Lise |
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HaXXspetten said: some serious yandere right there you are not joking about that |
| For a moment there at the end I thought he took Lise with him. fourberie said: theodore is straight retarded he should just run away with lise and hate fuck her into oblivion. what a faggot LOL that got me good. |
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| Oh boy that's next level yandere. Honestly though, that ending made me unbelievably mad. |
 hiSets Last FM Anime List Manga List Clue no. 2: Somewhere in one of the pictures in my forum signature. |
| Oh my the sister has gone batsh*t but I guess after what happened to her it's really no surprise !! |
| oh lise, you're amazing as always I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, LISE-CHAN ! *killed by her |
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| Man... why Pham??? :____| This show and that Lise is starting to piss me off. And what's up with that "QUALITY" 3/5, it was K. |
| Pham was dead meat the moment she look at the rocket launcher for me. Damn that was brutal nonetheless. Well Lize got a real dark background but i can't show any consideration after this episode. Not sure she will be killed by the end however. For the torture i was expecting something worse than bruises. And it was a good surprise to see Sylvia crying. |
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| Are you fucking kidding me? Why can't he do the right thing just for once... Kill that damn sister and be done with it finally -.- She is so incredibly annoying at this point. When she killed Pham I really thought it's time but, no, of course not. Just put a fucking knife through her mech or something and instead he just flies away. He had the chance to end her and didn't use it. This is so going to come back to them. He'll definitely regret not using his chance. |
| LISE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RIP PHAM T_______T |
| NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PHAMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goddammit, nicest girl gets the brutal death. Fucking Lise needs to die. It's the only way she can earn her redemption, and its the only way to save her from herself. I know that she went through some fucked up shit which made her this way, and that "she only did it for her brother", but that really doesn't justify anything. The main problem with that argument is because she doesn't really "love" her brother anymore. I say that because she's so broken that she has a false image in her head of what her brother is to her, and she used that as a coping mechanism and escape and now doesn't even know her brother in a realistic sense. It probably didn't start that way. She got tortured and gangbanged, and blackmailed, and in the beginning she was probably ok with it because it was keeping her brother safe, etc. But as time went on, her mind got more and more warped. As she started fucking more and more men, and slaughtering more and more people, she started using her brother's existence as an excuse. It went from (if I can just endure this, then onii-chan will be safe and I'll see him again) in the beginning, to (it's ok, I'm doing this all for onii-chan. onii-chan will still love me when I finally come for him...he'll accept me) when she completely lost herself. It kind of becomes apparent right after she killed Pham. Because Theo slams her to the ground and slowly starts destroying the mech, screaming at her asking why she would do that to someone who cares about her. Then Lise responds by completely deflecting his statement with her memories about them being at the lake looking at swans. Right before that when he asked her to stop and join them she starts screaming about how everything she's done was for him trying to justify herself...yet the brother she sees is the happy one at the lake she spent time with, not the one fighting the Stasi and the betas. |
Jonesy974 said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PHAMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goddammit, nicest girl gets the brutal death. Fucking Lise needs to die. It's the only way she can earn her redemption, and its the only way to save her from herself. I know that she went through some fucked up shit which made her this way, and that "she only did it for her brother", but that really doesn't justify anything. The main problem with that argument is because she doesn't really "love" her brother anymore. I say that because she's so broken that she has a false image in her head of what her brother is to her, and she used that as a coping mechanism and escape and now doesn't even know her brother in a realistic sense. It probably didn't start that way. She got tortured and gangbanged, and blackmailed, and in the beginning she was probably ok with it because it was keeping her brother safe, etc. But as time went on, her mind got more and more warped. As she started fucking more and more men, and slaughtering more and more people, she started using her brother's existence as an excuse. It went from (if I can just endure this, then onii-chan will be safe and I'll see him again) in the beginning, to (it's ok, I'm doing this all for onii-chan. onii-chan will still love me when I finally come for him...he'll accept me) when she completely lost herself. It kind of becomes apparent right after she killed Pham. Because Theo slams her to the ground and slowly starts destroying the mech, screaming at her asking why she would do that to someone who cares about her. Then Lise responds by completely deflecting his statement with her memories about them being at the lake looking at swans. Right before that when he asked her to stop and join them she starts screaming about how everything she's done was for him trying to justify herself...yet the brother she sees is the happy one at the lake she spent time with, not the one fighting the Stasi and the betas. Damn, you sum it up well. |
| What an episode. The confrontation between Theo and Lise genuinely made me sad, and I really wish she didn't have to kill the big sis. I'm glad Theo didn't kill her, but Irisdina wasn't actually saved. Hate that Heinz bastard, I can't wait to see him die. rongabiola said: I think I'm the only one who has a little bit of sympathy for Lise. Lise is psychotic but she got no choice that she got tortured a lot of things happened with her from STASI to survive but even she is in that state it is very evident that she is doing everything for her brother. In any situation where it concerns her brother she shows weakness and is showing her soft side. I wish they would just capture Lise and slowly reculture her broken mind but alas that won't happen. You're not the only one. Can you imagine: to simply want to be with someone so badly, that you'd do and endure so much despicable stuff plus remove anyone standing in your way without any regard for life. In Lise's head, her wish is very simple - to just be with Theo. At first glance it really is simple, and she probably can't even comprehend why is it that everyone gets in her way. The look in her eyes says it all - she's just... broken. So yeah, I hope Lise somehow lives and gets over the trauma that is massively affecting her right now. I truly like characters that put a single person over a country, or even the world, so my sympathy for Lise is a given. |
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| Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Lise >>> Katia. |
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| Lise is supposed to be an infuriating character right from her introduction. She is one of those characters who is task to move the story forward. Okay, the real deal. I feel sympathetic to Lise from all the stuff that she has gone through from Rape to Murder in cold blood. Did you know the people she killed included Children? She CANNOT be saved guys, the damage is done!! Her mind is warped into a fantasy due to how many people she killed/deceived/fucked!! Her title is a fucking swallow (who are spies who use prostitution as a means to get info). Lise is no longer pure similar to Sakura from fate series except even worse. And as you pro-lise can see, she killed Pham out of spite even though she wanted to save Lise. I always hated Lise for many reasons and this was one of them. Also, did you know that Lise was the reason Theo and her got captured? (She did something stupid even worse than tripping over a tree) |
| -sees Pham look at the bazooka- Aww crap. Please no... -Lise kills Pham- DAMN I KNEW IT |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
fourberie said: theodore is straight retarded he should just run away with lise and hate fuck her into oblivion. what a faggot this, btw where is blonde tities? |
Pham trying to 1v1 a TSF with a silly Rocket Laucher  What was she thinking. |
| wrong episode but what chapter/volume is when Katia convinced the west to help in episode5? I'm curious about what happened. There is a translation right? I didn't like Total Eclipse so I wasn't expecting that I'll like this one. Surprised with the 6.68 score... Haven't watched this episode yet though... |
ernstMar 11, 2016 6:00 PM
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -Andō & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
ernst said: wrong episode but what chapter/volume is when Katia convinced the west to help in episode5? I'm curious about what happened. There is a translation right? I didn't like Total Eclipse so I wasn't expecting that I'll like this one. Surprised with the 6.68 score... Haven't watched this episode yet though... Not many ppl scored yet, but I find ANN score for this anime is accurate. |
It's what people call assisted suicide. I was curious why they suddenly tried to attempt giving Pham a bit more character by telling she is the "big sister" type of the group. While she tried to reason with Lise despite having the least interaction with her in the entire show when the show is filled with paranoia all over the place. Because of that it didn't felt tragic it felt stupid and funny. It's like akame ga kill Sheele level of stupidity. |
frenze12Mar 12, 2016 7:12 AM
| Theodor is an idiot, everything was going so good but he fucking ruined it! Lise needs to die that bitch needs to die. Rip Pham, she was kind, sweet and wanted to help Lise, like she's the only one who wanted to give Lise a chance to change, but she just killed her. |
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| they should've given Pham a bit more background before lol, although it was heartbreaking to see her die esp after seeing the bond between MC and her damn Lise, yeah sure u got tortured, sexually assaulted, treated like shit etc etc but it doesnt matter in the end what happened to u, pls someone kill her soon lol |
| Pham is dead :( Fu*** Lise! Lise was a Stasi bit** all this time, she sold herself for everyone, only to be with her brother. She killed Pham :( Hope she dies! Wtf happened...so that Stasi guy now wants to help them?I can't really understand this... |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
 And we now know just how bad Pham was at judging a yandere..... |
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AivanK said: Pham is dead :( Fu*** Lise! Lise was a Stasi bit** all this time, she sold herself for everyone, only to be with her brother. She killed Pham :( Hope she dies! Wtf happened...so that Stasi guy now wants to help them?I can't really understand this... This series is amazing for the plot twist |
| pham-nee's hair was perfect after all those torture... and then she died hah |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| Psychotic Lise is best Lise. Those two helicopters didn't get very far even after that whole mech battle. |
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| Pham-nee is now ded. I hope someone quickly kills Lise fucker! 3/5. |
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| DAMN IT DIE LISE!!!! |
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| In the middle of Rescue Operation with limited time and critical distraction, they fucking Chit-Chat like it's fucking Holliday!!! TSF battle and she hugged her brother TSF? Are you kidding me? formerly swingin tactical knife like butcherer and shit, suddenly a hug! FUCK YOU Muv-Luv!! |
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| well, tbh i like this episode but at the same time i hate it. LOL Why i like it ? because i like where the plot is going/ or the story is going. What i hate is...LISE! just that. nothing else to say other that character in terms of HATE!. just going to be honest, i really hate her that i want even go inside this anime just to kill her. Someone just died in this episode tho....i'm not suprised because i saw that coming XD it is too freaking obvious after she saw the bazooka and tried to use it. The deathflag is too obvious.... and i don't know why, for some reason i didn't feel sad about her death, well i feel it a little bit but, probably becasue she is too kind to Lise. i still think it is not wrong for trying to save people in that state, but PERSONALLY i wanted her to just kill Lise because she can't be helped again/anymore. Pham is so kind, and i have to admit that!!! BUT!....... The action was okay to me. I wonder where is Iris ??? and YEAH! i almost forgot, i'm very very glad that Lise didn't torture that short hair girl. because she is the most people who i don't want to see her get tortured. i'm very glad at that scene. Edit: i can't stand to see the torture scene nor even want to hear it. #TeamLise XD When i saw Lise hugging her brother(not blood related...) with the mech....i got cringe/disgust/trill/the definition of creepy/what ever it is all over my body |
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