Ajin: Demi-Human
| I've been discussing this season's anime with my friends, and Ajin has been a rather controversial topic for us. The art style used, to say the least, is unique. Although I'm not an expert in the mechanisms of anime, I am assuming it uses a whole different technology to generate such in-depth realistic models from anime art. Here is where the question lies: Was it the right art style to use? Is it a good art style that should be considered for other titles? |
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| It's CGI right? It's cheap if you aren't going for high quality. |
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CGI always looks cheap. You can pour all the money you want into it, 3 years later it'll look like shit. |
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| Using CGI in Ajin is the best decision ever made in the history of anime. |
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| I love the CGI. It's just as good as Nobunaga Concerto and Sidonia no Kishi. |
| Sorry to say but it looks like shit. Shame, the story has some merit to it. |
| CGI ages like milk. I'm fine with some shows using it sparingly but I really don't like how they use it in shows like this. It looks like crap in my opinion. |
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| I don't mind CGI when it's done decently; I think Ajin's is fine. My only issue with it is how poor the frame rate it at times. It gets really jagged and jumpy occasionally. |
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ItsMaz said: Yeah, but overall it doesn't affect atmosphere/mood that much.I don't mind CGI when it's done decently; I think Ajin's is fine. My only issue with it is how poor the frame rate it at times. It gets really jagged and jumpy occasionally. |
| idk, I dont find Ajin CGI that bad, I think people exaggerate sometimes. |
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| I think Ajin's CGI is the best I've seen, but yeah, it still looks like shit. It's clunky and awkward and jarring. Like Clebardman said, no matter how much money gets poured into it, it's never going to look natural. I feel like the CGI works for animating the actual ajin, but the people are just...ugh. |
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Mayuka said: Definitely agreed.ItsMaz said: Yeah, but overall it doesn't affect atmosphere/mood that much.I don't mind CGI when it's done decently; I think Ajin's is fine. My only issue with it is how poor the frame rate it at times. It gets really jagged and jumpy occasionally. |
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| The CGI isn't bad if you ask me. If you want to say its bad then what is good CGI in anime? Or are you just saying its terrible just because its CGI? |
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KaiserNazrin said: The CGI isn't bad if you ask me. If you want to say its bad then what is good CGI in anime? Or are you just saying its terrible just because its CGI? In a nutshell: all CGI in anime is bad. |
CondemneDio said: KaiserNazrin said: The CGI isn't bad if you ask me. If you want to say its bad then what is good CGI in anime? Or are you just saying its terrible just because its CGI? In a nutshell: all CGI in anime is bad. I disagree |
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Okay, I was proven wrong. Let me rephrase it: 99 % of CGI in anime is bad. You're more likely to run into choppy, unnatural-looking and downright horrible use of it, instead of actually good ones. |
CondemneDio said: Okay, I was proven wrong. Let me rephrase it: 99 % of CGI in anime is bad. You're more likely to run into choppy, unnatural-looking and downright horrible use of it, instead of actually good ones. When 100% of the anime is in CGI, there's bound to be error here and there,its not like traditional anime doesn't have derp animation. Ajin action scene is pretty awesome. |
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KaiserNazrin said: When 100% of the anime is in CGI, there's bound to be error here and there,its not like traditional anime doesn't have derp animation here and there. Ajin action scene is pretty awesome. Funny, I was just thinking about Ajin when writing here :D Ajin is an interesting case to me: the story intrigues me, but the CGI (especially outside of battle, so for 95% of time) is putting me off. The fight scenes are not that bad though. And I do have to agree that normal animation can, and will, have quality issues. Episode 9 of KonoSuba was a great reminder of it :D Even if it pleased my pingas... |
KaiserNazrin said: CondemneDio said: Okay, I was proven wrong. Let me rephrase it: 99 % of CGI in anime is bad. You're more likely to run into choppy, unnatural-looking and downright horrible use of it, instead of actually good ones. When 100% of the anime is in CGI, there's bound to be error here and there,its not like traditional anime doesn't have derp animation. Ajin action scene is pretty awesome. The pain vs naruto episode was one of the most expensive episode and has the best animation in the series. The animation was anything but bad. |
Z4k said: KaiserNazrin said: When 100% of the anime is in CGI, there's bound to be error here and there,its not like traditional anime doesn't have derp animation. Ajin action scene is pretty awesome. The pain vs naruto episode was one of the most expensive episode and has the best animation in the series. The animation was anything but bad. In another reality maybe. Goddamn. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Z4k said: The pain vs naruto episode was one of the most expensive episode and has the best animation in the series. The animation was anything but bad. In another reality maybe. Goddamn. Do you understand what the word "animation" means? The video you linked shows a very fluid battle scene with dynamic camera movement, distance shots, detailed environment effected by the battle, objects that actually rotate, etc |
| could be worse, could be rotoscoped, so be thankful for that |
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| I don't like CGI, and I don't like Ajin's artwork. May continue watching for the plot but meh, if the artwork keeps bothering me, I'll drop it. |
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| The CGI isn't amazing or anything but the atmosphere fits it. No frills, slow movement, realistic |
| I honestly feel like the CGI helps this series more than it hurts it. I'm not much a fan of CGI but I can handle it when everything else it so top-notch complaining about something as simple as CGI looks quite frivolous. Ajin's atmosphere is ridiculously well done, the characters emotions flow/are expressed with much accentuation. This all matters more than the CGI. |
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| At first, it put me off a bit, but seriously sometimes it just gives off a different feeling that adds to the atmosphere of the anime. I've learnt to like it in Ajin. |
Evangeliman said: Z4k said: Do you understand what the word "animation" means? The video you linked shows a very fluid battle scene with dynamic camera movement, distance shots, detailed environment effected by the battle, objects that actually rotate, etc Really? What I saw was a shitty flash animation with disproportionate blobs flying around the screen while smashing various untextured tan cubes into pieces, and occasionally smashing into eachother before flying into jarring and poorly composited backgrounds. The camera movement was uninspired and heavily action oriented, which would have been good had there actually been any fight choreography. Distance shots =/= equal good animation. I don't know who told you that, it's literally just a type of shot. The environment was as bland, undetailed, and untextured as could be. The whole thing is lazy. I've seen better animation in flash videos. Yeah sure buddy. . |
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| Loved the art especialle the faces and their expressions. And especially that old guy from the village that wanted the money. Much better than the usual anime with cute girls and bishounen ha ha. |
| I don't know why all that hate against the anime artwork, I really liked it. I think the different style fits very well on the plot, it's like Aku no Hana. To me seems that the people who keeps complaining about the art of the anime just wanted another fan-service shit, full of little girls battling with noting more than bath clothes and a entire rainbow of colors. If you don't like it, don't watch it, its simple. |
| CGI is freaky bad-___- |
| i think CGI seems fit with this anime, but they should increase the FPS more FPS = more image, much better but also, more FPS = High budget needed TBH 30 FPS would make the action scenes much better :) |
| I'm not a big fan of the entire thing being done in CGI but with the anime industry as bad as it is it isn't surprising that there are more and more animes being done in it it's hella cheaper to produce but I do agree that it doesn't ever age well |
| I'm not a big fan of cgi either but i liked the work polygon did with Sidonia and Ajin was no exception, it's not great but it's not bad either, their facial expressions and enviromental lighting is nice tho. PD: That fight scene between Naruto and Pain someone posted before is trash, you can make everything move if you want but it has to be coherent. |
| The CGI used on Sidonia and Ajin is great. The only problems are the framerate sometimes and facial expressions (in Sidonia was not that good, but in Ajin is already better). |
| Maybe if they could get the CGI to an acceptable fps it would look a lot better. As for now, I really understand that they don't have the budget to do that all the time, but it still looks pretty ugly some times. |
| Personally I'm not a big fan of the CGI, and I'm still wondering why they decided to go with CGI for Ajin. Were they aiming for a more realistic atmosphere? Or is it just more cost effective? I just feel the original art of the mangaka could have been portrayed better with the traditional 2D animation methods. Most notable is the character's expressions (such as Satou's crazy face), the CGI just couldn't capture the same depth in my opinion. idk just me? |
lalalallamaMay 2, 2016 6:37 AM
Z4k said: Do you understand what the word "animation" means? The video you linked shows a very fluid battle scene with dynamic camera movement, distance shots, detailed environment effected by the battle, objects that actually rotate, etc I know this is old af but I have to respond because what you just said, was retarded. The whole scene would had been fantastic IF they didn't completely disregard the art while animating it. As the other guy already said, it literally just looked like a ton of shitty blobs smashing into each other and flying around like jelly with a disgustingly plain environment consisting of bland colors and nothing else. Have no clue what you're looking at when you said "detailed environment". There was nothing to it other than it running smooth. |
Flylow said: Z4k said: Do you understand what the word "animation" means? The video you linked shows a very fluid battle scene with dynamic camera movement, distance shots, detailed environment effected by the battle, objects that actually rotate, etc I know this is old af but I have to respond because what you just said, was retarded. The whole scene would had been fantastic IF they didn't completely disregard the art while animating it. As the other guy already said, it literally just looked like a ton of shitty blobs smashing into each other and flying around like jelly with a disgustingly plain environment consisting of bland colors and nothing else. Have no clue what you're looking at when you said "detailed environment". There was nothing to it other than it running smooth. That's a stylistic choice you stupid retard and yes the environment was detailed. And on-model character design =/= Good animation |
Z4k said: Flylow said: I know this is old af but I have to respond because what you just said, was retarded. The whole scene would had been fantastic IF they didn't completely disregard the art while animating it. As the other guy already said, it literally just looked like a ton of shitty blobs smashing into each other and flying around like jelly with a disgustingly plain environment consisting of bland colors and nothing else. Have no clue what you're looking at when you said "detailed environment". There was nothing to it other than it running smooth. That's a stylistic choice you stupid retard and yes the environment was detailed. And on-model character design =/= Good animation Well the "stylistic choice" blew dick, and no there was literally no environment, you're blind af. Then again you're trying to defend Naruto, so why am I even arguing lmao |
Flylow said: Well the "stylistic choice" blew dick, and no there was literally no environment, you're blind af. That's simply your worthless opinion and do you even understand what I even meant when I said "detailed environment"? Then again you're trying to defend Naruto, so why am I even arguing lmao "haha lmao you're defending nardo" This is how you sound right now. |
Z4KMay 3, 2016 12:54 AM
Z4k said: Flylow said: Well the "stylistic choice" blew dick, and no there was literally no environment, you're blind af. That's simply your worthless opinion and do you even understand what I even meant when I said "detailed environment"? Then again you're trying to defend Naruto, so why am I even arguing lmao "haha lmao you're defending nardo" This how you sound right now. Says the one trying to defend possibly the worst animation is history. |
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