Why can't people accept this anime??

Puchkov said:
I liked Hidan no Aria, it wasn't a superb series but still quite enjoyable. I know exactly how you feel regarding the criticism towards AA just because its not a direct sequel. At least I personally will watch AA at some point.

Rinroken said:
I like apples. My favorite is a granny smith apple. I go to the supermarket to buy apples. When I get to the grocery section I see my favorite green apples. I pick it up, but right before I put it in the cart, I see some red on it. Turns out, its no granny smith, its a McIntosh. I yell out, "WTF is this?! I don't want a McIntosh!" I then put it back and head to look for granny smiths. Then a stranger approaches me and says "Whats wrong with McIntosh apples? Why can't you accept them for what they are?" At this point I'm thinking, "What the...I don't even...."

Rinroken said:
I understand your frustration. This story is good and the setting is absolutely the same. However there's something to take into account. I'll illustrate it.

I like apples. My favorite is a granny smith apple. I go to the supermarket to buy apples. When I get to the grocery section I see my favorite green apples. I pick it up, but right before I put it in the cart, I see some red on it. Turns out, its no granny smith, its a McIntosh. I yell out, "WTF is this?! I don't want a McIntosh!" I then put it back and head to look for granny smiths. Then a stranger approaches me and says "Whats wrong with McIntosh apples? Why can't you accept them for what they are?" At this point I'm thinking, "What the...I don't even...."

Do you see my point? While this is a crude analogy, it compares these two very similar series to apples. The McIntosh(Aria AA) may be a good apple. Personally, i have nothing against it. However I was looking for a granny smith(Aria). Now while I simply place the apple back on the shelf for another patron, I do agree with you that its wrong to throw the perfectly good apple on the ground and stomp on it like most of the Aria AA haters blowing up the forums.

I could write another page about the importance of Genres and what people should understand before raging about something that didn't fall in line with their interests, but I'll just end this rant with soul searching quote.

“As if on a conveyer belt, there will be a never ending supply of idiots and jerks that come and go in your life. Whether you stop the belt to dance with any one of them is up to you.”
― Dan Pearce, Single Dad Laughing

evildeadfan102 said:
I enjoyed Episode 1, havent seen episode 2 yet.
I just dont want to see Aria inlove with a girl. Aria X Kinji 4Life

Il see this show as a fun side thing but i wont support any Aria X Akari shipping. Shes just an obsessed fan girl thing.

Rinroken said:

I like apples. My favorite is a granny smith apple. I go to the supermarket to buy apples. When I get to the grocery section I see my favorite green apples. I pick it up, but right before I put it in the cart, I see some red on it. Turns out, its no granny smith, its a McIntosh. I yell out, "WTF is this?! I don't want a McIntosh!" I then put it back and head to look for granny smiths. Then a stranger approaches me and says "Whats wrong with McIntosh apples? Why can't you accept them for what they are?" At this point I'm thinking, "What the...I don't even...."

Ganzfeld said:
I just think that most people think this is a continuation. They just need to realize that this is a spin-off. In AA, it's as if everything in the original didn't happen. I mean, I would love for them to continue the story from the original, but they probably won't do it.

Namaywa said:
If this become's dark as they predict then 10/10 accepted

Kruzy said:
I haven't even watched the original series to compare AA to it but I still think that this show is pretty crap so far. If the original show is about Aria's life as an OP butei then it's definitely better than what I saw in the first episode of AA.

Also this is pretty similar to what happened with Nagato Yuki-chan to Shoushitsu. It's a spin-off focusing on another character but was a disappointment compared to the movie and series since it did none of the things that made the original series good and even when it tried to be intriguing it just lasted for a couple episode before it returned to the status quo with some pretty insignificant change.

In any case this doesn't have to with just being a subpar spin-off since an equally subpar sequel would have caused a similar reaction.

Namaywa said:
If this become's dark as they predict then 10/10 accepted

Ganzfeld said:
I just think that most people think this is a continuation. They just need to realize that this is a spin-off. In AA, it's as if everything in the original didn't happen. I mean, I would love for them to continue the story from the original, but they probably won't do it.

Mami-Sexual said:
Sooo after taking the time to read through the forums here regarding AA I can't help but find myself frustrated by the vast majority of what people are saying about Hidan No Aria AA so this is kind of a question/rant on my part.

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rsslayersr said:
All this conversations just distances my chances to watch the whole Index franchise, to be honest.

TitanAnteus said:

If you like this show it's because you have a yuri fetish. That's not a bad thing but you really should at least admit it to yourself since there isn't really much that's good about the show.

Akari's a terrrible protagonist. I mean regardless of gender. Male or female she'd be disliked equally. She doesn't do anything to move the plot along hasn't improved as a character and you can basically guess how she's going to act in every scene.

The side characters are mostly worse than Akari. The ojousama yandere's personality makes no sense and her plot relevance is paper thin. The two blondes are kind of interesting, but not even because of their character but because of their romantic interaction with each other (and that's coming from someone who doesn't like yuri.) If the romance is your one attractive trait as a character I think that doesn't bode well.

I mean. Kinji has so far been one of the best characters, and he's not even all that special of a male protagonist. His life doesn't revolve around Aria or romance. His struggles are weird and he always develops as a character in his story, actually being an active party in the lives of his friends. Akari should at least do that much.

It's like they took a horrible harem cliche and made the protagonist a girl instead of a guy.

Mami-Sexual said:

Erm...would you mind going into detail about how Kenji had any devolpement?? Cause we are just talking about the orginal Hidan No Aria anime and not the light novels Kinji has had no real devopement to speak of.

Mami-Sexual said:


Erm...would you mind going into detail about how Kenji had any devolpement?? Cause we are just talking about the orginal Hidan No Aria anime and not the light novels Kinji has had no real devopement to speak of.

And honestly I can't really defend Akari at this point in the anime I must admit...not becuase she is a bad charcther but becuase of the way she is currently being protrayed in the anime version of Hidan No Aria AA

Honestly I came into this anime already having read the manga about a year ago and I can honestly say to you that the Akari in that version is protrayed as being a more progressive stronger charcther than she is the anime so far.

I will admit that my feelings of love I have for the anime that about 90 percent of it comes from having read the manga and the manga did a much better job with fleshing out the story and adding detail to every event and charcther much better than the anime is doing so I supose thats part of the reason my perspective on the anime is diffrent than most others that watch it.

I still don't find the anime to be horrible and actually still love it despite its flaws.

One good thing about it I will mention is the fact that the orginal Hidan No Aria did not utilize Aria as being anything more than a tsundera whos only real role when you think about it was to basicly make Kinji go into Hysteria mode and basicly have those gushy gushy moments with him unlike the way she is used in AA where she is actually protrayed as being a S rank buitei bad ass for a change and not just in name only like in the orginal.

Like she is totally has a diffrent Air about her in AA than she did in the orginal.

Actually when you think about it most of the girls in the orginal Hidan No Aria were only really there for the sake of helping Kenji to go into Hysteria mode and be apart of his Harem for the most part unlike AA where it actually has girls taking on leading roles that don't revole around some guy.

Not saying that was the only role the girls played in the orginal but clearly Kenji was the main focus of the orginal Hidan No Aria and most of what the girls did execpt for Reki was always connected to him.

Though AA takes a completely diffrent spin on things were girls are actually useful by themsleves without a need for a guy to be around.

I also think AA goes into more detail about the world of the buitei more so than in the orginal which only really scartched the surface of everything related to being a butei.

I can't really say the yuri or love aspect has anything to do with my love for the anime but it is a bonus at times.

Also want to add that AA is not over yet so don't complete judge the anime till it does infact end since I still belive Akari will be protrayed as a better charcther by the end.

TitanAnteus said:


Ok so I'm going to go at this backwards.
When you talked about scratching the surface of "Butei." You say that like it's a positive thing. There's a good reason why the original Aria just glossed over so many of the details of "Butei." Out loud a lot of it sounds dumb like the bulletproof clothing and knifeproof knives. A lot of the other stuff Butei related you can tell is tacked on to add conflict for Akari's sake. For instance, that entrance exam or whatever and the whole Amica system.

Look, I don't know if you watched the original Aria but the girls were plenty useful in combat. More useful than Kinji over 90% of the time. Hysteria mode Kinji was just a cruch. A really funny cruch that does insanely stupid shit while trying to look cool guaranteeing a laugh. I wont deny that in AA Aria's character seems more respectable because she's the confident senpai type character more often, but I felt that the dirge of emotions shown by Aria in AA are much less than the original. In the original Aria gets angry, solemn, contemplative, laughs, and scared. Aria has only shown like 1 expression in this spinoff and she's so unimportant that watching the show for her is idiotic.

Regarding the whole leading roles thing. COME ON! Dude. The whole Amica system is basically showing that each character in AA has a direct correlation to a character in the original. The yandere ojousama character relates directly to that miko character from the original. They're basically the same character except AA's version is yuri. Also Aria had the goals in the original. Kinji didn't have some overarching dream to be hokage, which leads me into my final point.

Kinji developed as a character.

No like seriously. In the beginning he wanted nothing to do with Aria, but seeing her persevere and struggle made him feel ashamed of himself for carrying through life with such a lackluster attitude. His development can be paralleled. through his attitude towards Hysteria mode where even he wants to rely on it by the end of the anime. He takes more active approach to helping Aria towards the end when he wanted nothing to do with her in the beginning. He didn't even really grow all that much stronger. He developed solely in personality.

Mami-Sexual said:
Sooo after taking the time to read through the forums here regarding AA I can't help but find myself frustrated by the vast majority of what people are saying about Hidan No Aria AA so this is kind of a question/rant on my part.

Basicly my question is....why can't most of you just accept this anime for what it is instead of what you think it should be or want it to be??

No its not a sequel to the orginal anime and it was never ment to be a sequel but just another story within the same universe...is that reallly so hard to accept??

I personally think that if people would stop comparing this to the orginal anime so much they would be able to appreciate and enjoy this anime so much more for everything it has to offer rather than what they think it should be and that's a season 2 of the orginal.

Yes I do agree a season 2 to the orginal would be great but I still feel like this spin off offers a lot we never be able to get from the orginal anime.

I just think its a real shame cause I personally love the Hidan No Aria series meaning all forms like the light novels, manga, both AA and the orginal HNA as well as both the japanese and english dub both with all my heart and I just think it totally sucks that people are talking down on this particular side story so much and 90 percent of the reason they talk down on is only being becuase its not a season 2 of the orginal Hidan No Aria and there percious Kenji who is apparently supose to be this god level of an anime character who no one can live without unless he is playing a main role in the show which I think is simply ridiculous.....

I mean yeah he is a cool and likeable character but there's so much more to the Aria series than him but most people here seem to like to paint this picture that he was everything to the series and without him the anime offers noting which I just don't understand....

Anyways as I said this is abit of rant cause I can already tell this anime is going to be dismissed by most anime fans that watch it not becuase the anime itself is bad but only becuase its not a season 2 of a diffrent anime and the fact that Kinji is not actively in it.

My advice for anyone who is a fan of the orginal and wants to be able to enjoy the the AA version just forget about everything you remeber from the orginal and try to find the value in the great story thats being told here.

And if you need somone to point out the value of this spin off I would be happy to give my views on it.

Bosskardo said:
It's milking a dead cow. I don't like it because it just seems like they wan't some easy money by doing little.
Just briefly read some of the manga too and that was better.
So this is just badly done anime adaption of a manga spin-off of a novel.

Mami-Sexual said:


I agree 100 percent about the manga being better. I'm going to make a youtube video regarding this actually...

Mami-Sexual said:
Before Aria left Kenji to go to England Kenji was aware of Arias mother being jail and that she was framed and that Aria was struggling to help her but this did not make Kenji want to automatically become her partner as a result.

He made him realize her motives and that he felt sorry for her yes but he did not change as a result of knowing this otherwise he would have became her partner on the spot after they both left her mother that time when they went to see her.

Mami-Sexual said:
Also want to point out that your right that the girls in Hidan No Aria did have more of a purpose when it came to the story and fights but it still does not change the fact that there main purpose was in being connected with Kenji.

I mean if Kenji had not been in the anime Rikko who have never taken any of the actions she did neither would with Shiroyukki as well as Aria.

That show focused on him being the center more than anything else and the girls were just there as basically support charcthers I say that only because the story would played out completely different had Kenji been completely removed regardless of what was going on with the other girls.

I mean if you don't believe that then paint me a picture of how the Hidan No Aria story would have gone if Kenji never existed.

TitanAnteus said:

If you like this show it's because you have a yuri fetish.

Mami-Sexual said:
And honestly I still don't feel like Kenji had any development by the animes version.

Mami-Sexual said:
At least AA makes an attempt to take a less sexyist approach to things were girls don't needs guys in this particular version. Not saying its a great attempt at displaying this but an attempt never the less

TitanAnteus said:
I never said the original Hidan No Aria was perfect when it came to characterization or even general enjoyability. It was an average show.

I don't remember even mentioning Reki, but regarding your other statements, I think you're just letting your bias show.

When you said.

Obviously that's because it's still a big decision to make to help Aria save her mother. He'd have to devote years of his life to someone else's cause and him hesitating over this choice helps convey the weight of the decision that needs to be made.


Wait how's this a bad thing? Being the connecting thread to a bunch of characters is usually what a main character does.

Also, AA is no different. Akari's the protagonist that connects everything and the other girls wouldn't be involved with each other if she didn't exist. Their lives would probably be uneventful if she didn't exist. How can you like Akari and hate Kinji when they're basically the same regarding how they are in roles? This is why I originally said:


If Kinji didn't exist, Aria would have been alone in her chase to free her mother. She'd go on dangerous life risking missions alone and eventually die. This whole thought process is literally why Kinji joins her eventually. He knows this and realizes that he hates the idea of Aria dying more than he hates the idea of succumbing to Hysteria and being dragged into a world of life and death practically every day.

Look the character roles and dynamics are basically the same. The amica system is basically showing that. The big difference is Kinji and Aria are unimportant, and Akari's not as fun as Kinji was for me.

You also said.

I don't know. It seems like you just weren't paying any attention to him especially if you can't remember his name.

Oh and one more thing!

Dude you have to be joking. Akari has a panty shot for Kinji, there's tons of bath scenes. Basically these girls are way more sexualized than in the original Hidan No Aria. Also, AA can't be considered less sexist even in the character's actions. They act like stereotypes for the most part and still adhere to traditional gender roles.

Imeon said:
^ I have always been honest to myself that the main purpose an all- girls anime is fan service whether it's yuri or not.

What's the purpose of Aria AA anyway? It always about Akari though the title should be about Aria. This spin off actually just trying to get under the popularity of the original.

Mami-Sexual said:

1. Okay can you explain in detail how Kenji is hesitating when it comes to Aria's case with her mother?? Like what scenes or words did he express that even gave you this impression?? Becuase I personally think your reading why to much into this part and just making Kenji out to be a much deeper character than he really is.

Mami-Sexual said:

2. And the reason its bad thing that the girls were so connected to Kenji has to do with his hysteria mode and the fact that in a lot of ways the reason why the girls were even in the story had to do with providing him a reason to go into Hysteria mode. Not saying that was there any purpose but yeah.

Mami-Sexual said:

3. Well if condsider all the fanservice that was in the orginal I still say AA is not being a server with it as it could be. And I still consider Hidan No Aria to be more of the sexist between the to simple becuase it has fanservice and it also has Kenji that gains a secret power by litterally geting off by other girls. I mean if you want an example of a sexist scene think the first episode where you have bad ass Aria basicly being told she could not fight since Mr macho Hysteria mode Kenji decided to handle things and basicly tells her not do anything.

Heres a video were the person goes into more detail about this presenting more of my points on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFgwM0elrM

Also want to add that m y reasons for liking this show have to do with the manga so don't words in my mouth when it comes to your whole yuri fettish

Imeon said:
^ I have always been honest to myself that the main purpose an all- girls anime is fan service whether it's yuri or not.

What's the purpose of Aria AA anyway? It always about Akari though the title should be about Aria. This spin off actually just trying to get under the popularity of the original.

Mami-Sexual said:
Ok. You probably don't realize this, but this is another fan service all-girls anime. I've tried reading the manga too, and yep. It survives through being yuri or shoujou ai

Disagree completely since my interest in the manga comes from Akari being an underdog that displays having potential through the situations she is placed in regarding the manga. Now I won't disagree that the anime waters down Akari and AA as being a more moe cute girl doing cute things type of anime as oppose to its manga counter part that takes the story abit more seriously.

Honestly I can't really defend the anime as much as I can the manga and I honestly was a fan of the manga months before an anime adaption was even announced.

If your a person who wants a cute moe girlxgirl type anime thats not ment to be taken seriously and is just a fun type of show ( I personally enjoy a hell of a lot regardless) This is an anime for you.

Now if you want somthing a little more serious granted not dramaticly more serious but if you want a version of Akari who is taken more seriously as a person and as a butei then I suggest reading the manga which better than the anime version anyway.

Also want to add that theres an event in the manga where one of Akari's fellow butei gets into trouble and shes the one that suggest taking action to help them and is ultimately able to do so.

TitanAnteus said:

But the fact that you argued this much swayed me. You like this show for what it is. Not going to doubt that anymore.