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Sex before marriage?
Oct 11, 2015 8:04 PM
#51
mayukachan said: It won't last long then.Unfortunately, not every couple will have this. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:04 PM
#52
ExTamplier said: And that's why you have sex before getting into marriage.mayukachan said: It won't last long then.Unfortunately, not every couple will have this. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:05 PM
#53
mayukachan said: That's what I said on the last page.ExTamplier said: And that's why you have sex before getting into marriage.mayukachan said: Unfortunately, not every couple will have this. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:05 PM
#54
mayukachan said: Cottonrabbit said: Unfortunately, not every couple will have this.Honesty and confidence with your partner is also a necessity. It doesn't sound like they will be a very stable couple if they can't be honest with each other. As someone who is really shy when it comes to having sex talks with their partner, I can understand why people would want to avoid it, but communication is the key to a successful relationship. You should communicate with your partner over your feelings towards everything, including sexual stuff. It's just one of those things that you have to do if you want a strong relationship. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:06 PM
#55
ExTamplier said: It's been said many times in this thread, I know. I was never arguing against it, btw.mayukachan said: That's what I said on the last page.ExTamplier said: mayukachan said: It won't last long then.Unfortunately, not every couple will have this. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:07 PM
#56
mayukachan said: >1994 You're two years older than me, wut. I've been thinking about parenthood since I was in elementary school. I think I'm certain on how I see myself in the future. If they think being 21 makes them unquestionably that much more experienced than you I wouldn't let what they say get to you. LionCake said: Honesty and confidence with your partner is also a necessity. I agree but in reality nobody is honest in a relationship 100% of the time and sex is one of those things people can get anxious or embarrassed about. Of course the more honest and open you can be, the better. But everyone hides something at some point in their life, it doesn't matter how close you are with someone. Sometimes it's exactly because you're close to them. At the very least, if you find yourself unable to be honest about these things, better to realize that before marriage. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:08 PM
#57
Thalos said: Everyone has a personal opinion, and everyone grew up in a different community with it's own beliefs.mayukachan said: If they think being 21 makes them unquestionably that much more experienced than you I wouldn't let what they say get to you.>1994 You're two years older than me, wut. I've been thinking about parenthood since I was in elementary school. I think I'm certain on how I see myself in the future. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:24 PM
#58
Of course not. I'm not a fornicator. |
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Oct 11, 2015 11:25 PM
#60
ExTamplier said: Thalos said: Everyone has a personal opinion, and everyone grew up in a different community with it's own beliefs.mayukachan said: >1994 You're two years older than me, wut. I've been thinking about parenthood since I was in elementary school. I think I'm certain on how I see myself in the future. Even if they grew up in the same community doesn't mean they are going to have the same beliefs either |
Oct 11, 2015 11:26 PM
#61
Wait... There are still people in the Western civilisation that won't have sex before they marry? |
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Oct 11, 2015 11:28 PM
#62
Comic_Sans said: Wait... There are still people in the Western civilisation that won't have sex before they marry? It's a big world buddy |
Oct 11, 2015 11:29 PM
#63
ThRippJck said: WowComic_Sans said: Wait... There are still people in the Western civilisation that won't have sex before they marry? It's a big world buddy Weird |
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Oct 11, 2015 11:38 PM
#64
sex is important on any intimate relationship imho so doing sex is a natural part of it i do not see any benefits of premarital sex that major religions preach other than following a holy book that is considered fiction |
Oct 11, 2015 11:42 PM
#65
Thalos said: I wouldn't even feel comfortable marrying someone I haven't had sex with before to be honest. You wouldn't ask for sex before even kissing the person, to me marriage is the same. Marriage should basically be the furthest step you take your relationship, so it should be proceeded by everything else. You should only get married after you've spent enough time together with someone and are sure that every aspect of your relationship is healthy. I'd rather not have to go through divorce(s) because of something like that. If it's someones belief not to, I'd respect it, but I also probably wouldn't end up marrying that person. That's pretty spot on, I feel exactly the same way. |
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Oct 12, 2015 12:14 AM
#66
mayukachan said: LionCake said: Well, not necessarily. Some couples can lose all the romance but stay together because of their kids.Sex is a fundamental necessity to a lasting marriage. Sexual libido tends to dissapair after awhile, for some couples. |
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Oct 12, 2015 12:14 AM
#67
Shoryuuken said: That, and because of pregnancy after effects.mayukachan said: LionCake said: Sex is a fundamental necessity to a lasting marriage. Sexual libido tends to dissapair after awhile, for some couples. |
Oct 12, 2015 12:21 AM
#68
mayukachan said: Shoryuuken said: That, and because of pregnancy after effects.mayukachan said: LionCake said: Well, not necessarily. Some couples can lose all the romance but stay together because of their kids.Sex is a fundamental necessity to a lasting marriage. Sexual libido tends to dissapair after awhile, for some couples. Hmmhmm, many reasons why couples stop having sex. I wonder how life is like if you don't even love your husband/wife anymore, yet you're forced to stick together. |
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Oct 12, 2015 12:36 AM
#69
Oct 12, 2015 12:38 AM
#70
As a christian, I intend to remain a virgin unless I end up getting married. But even if I wasn't religious I think I would probably still have the same idea. I don't want to found a relationship on sex, it should be a bonus, but not a necessity. If I do find a good woman, I want to ensure that I can love her even without sex, so if its ever off the table for some reason in the future I wont end up miserable and regretting my decision to be bound to her for the rest of my life. |
Oct 12, 2015 12:45 AM
#71
Shoryuuken said: My parents are like that. It's kind of sad but they don't complain.mayukachan said: Shoryuuken said: mayukachan said: LionCake said: Well, not necessarily. Some couples can lose all the romance but stay together because of their kids.Sex is a fundamental necessity to a lasting marriage. Sexual libido tends to dissapair after awhile, for some couples. Hmmhmm, many reasons why couples stop having sex. I wonder how life is like if you don't even love your husband/wife anymore, yet you're forced to stick together. |
Oct 12, 2015 12:45 AM
#72
Sexual compatibility is, in most cases (about 90%) , adjustable. A nice long chat about sex before marriage will achieve you the same result as having sexual intercourse before marriage would. But, whatever floats your boat. |
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Oct 12, 2015 1:04 AM
#73
In this day and age, I don't think most couples follow that sorta thing anymore. Unless, not being stereotypical or anything, they're very religious. But there is nothing wrong with waiting til after marriage. I guess it depends on each couple. |
Oct 12, 2015 1:12 AM
#74
Sex is pretty much mandatory if you wanna be my girl. :~) Good sex, too. Both of us need to feel good and for real, and preferably stuff like oral included. |
Oct 12, 2015 1:14 AM
#75
mayukachan said: Shoryuuken said: My parents are like that. It's kind of sad but they don't complain.mayukachan said: Shoryuuken said: That, and because of pregnancy after effects.mayukachan said: LionCake said: Well, not necessarily. Some couples can lose all the romance but stay together because of their kids.Sex is a fundamental necessity to a lasting marriage. Sexual libido tends to dissapair after awhile, for some couples. Hmmhmm, many reasons why couples stop having sex. I wonder how life is like if you don't even love your husband/wife anymore, yet you're forced to stick together. My parents aren't together anymore, but y'know they never married so I guess "divorcing" doesn't apply eh? The only thing they really do is complain about one another when talking with me. God it's getting on my nerves at times. How's the atmosphere like in the living room? Neutral? |
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Oct 12, 2015 1:17 AM
#76
Why not. |
Oct 12, 2015 1:17 AM
#77
If you're good with each other outside of the bedroom, then it should follow it's good inside the bedroom too. It's down on personal belief and also the couple has to talk about it as well. I don't think it's a necessity but it does not mean I cannot be persuaded if the one I am going to get married thinks differently (and gives convincing argument also). I like to think the first night after marriage is something special. Properly something to do with Eastern practice. |
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Oct 12, 2015 1:21 AM
#78
Shoryuuken said: Neutral. They do argue a fair bit though. My dad has a bad temper.How's the atmosphere like in the living room? Neutral? |
Oct 12, 2015 1:57 AM
#79
Is sex before marriage so out there that this thread had to exist? I thought it was as common as every young couples i see on daily basis. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:04 AM
#80
I think that to remain a virgin until marriage can cause mental and sexual damage to some people. Many religions put too much weight on the whole virgin thing, resulting in girls feeling like their value as a person is depending on their "pureness". Some girls still feel this pressure even after they're married, making sex life after marriage awful and destroying their self esteem. We're creating way too much stigma around something that's completely natural to do. |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:06 AM
#81
Amiluhur said: too many people treat virginity as this precious pearl within them, that they start judging others who don't have it anymore.Is sex before marriage so out there that this thread had to exist? I thought it was as common as every young couples i see on daily basis. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:10 AM
#82
I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:16 AM
#83
As long as you don't have children born out of wedlock. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:19 AM
#84
bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Look at what Grubel said and think again. That's a real problem. |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:19 AM
#85
bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Why devalue themselves? |
Oct 12, 2015 2:22 AM
#86
bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Guilty pleasure is only guilty if your conscience tells you to. If your conscience has been manipulated from a young age, of course it's going to feel wrong. Your value as a person is the same thing. For example: Where I come from, you loose value in your friends eyes if you're still a virgin after 16-18 years. I think it's despicable either way. Why judge people on this matter at all? |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:23 AM
#87
Mischievous said: bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Why devalue themselves? You're soiling yourself without even tying the knot with the person. And I think people forgot that sex are only for those who have dedicated their lives to one another. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:24 AM
#88
Grubel said: bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Guilty pleasure is only guilty if your conscience tells you to. If your conscience has been manipulated from a young age, of course it's going to feel wrong. Your value as a person is the same thing. For example: Where I come from, you loose value in your friends eyes if you're still a virgin after 16-18 years. I think it's despicable either way. Why judge people on this matter at all? I wouldn't even bother with those type of people to begin with and are you saying the human conscience can be manipulated in such a way that rape and murder is justified. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:27 AM
#89
bombslayer said: those who have dedicated their lives to one another. So marriage is the only way two people who love each other can dedicate their lives to one another? |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:27 AM
#90
bombslayer said: Grubel said: bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Guilty pleasure is only guilty if your conscience tells you to. If your conscience has been manipulated from a young age, of course it's going to feel wrong. Your value as a person is the same thing. For example: Where I come from, you loose value in your friends eyes if you're still a virgin after 16-18 years. I think it's despicable either way. Why judge people on this matter at all? I wouldn't even bother with those type of people to begin with Well, you're probably right... But it's sickening to see such judgemental people. |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:27 AM
#91
I think the video you watched was largely correct. You need to have sexual compatibility with your partner. |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:28 AM
#92
bombslayer said: Grubel said: bombslayer said: I just finished ranting about relationships and the 1st thing I see is this. I don't even know what to type about this. For one thing, I am completely against this. but I'm just confused about how this world lost so much of it's values as individuals. How they devalue themselves so much to resort to this. If you're wondering yes, I'm a Christian. But just to let you know I actually find the atheists more tolerable than the fake Christians in my school and I'm a more logical kind of Christian I can assure you of that. Now back to the topic. Guilty pleasure can only make life worth living for so long. I hope people would put more time and effort on something that lasts for an eternity. Guilty pleasure is only guilty if your conscience tells you to. If your conscience has been manipulated from a young age, of course it's going to feel wrong. Your value as a person is the same thing. For example: Where I come from, you loose value in your friends eyes if you're still a virgin after 16-18 years. I think it's despicable either way. Why judge people on this matter at all? I wouldn't even bother with those type of people to begin with and are you saying the human conscience can be manipulated in such a way that rape and murder is justified. lol |
Oct 12, 2015 2:30 AM
#93
DisdainMatto said: bombslayer said: those who have dedicated their lives to one another. So marriage is the only way two people who love each other can dedicate their lives to one another? The amount of dedication I'm talking about is the one equivalent to marriage. And well now that think of it none of this can be proven. So it's all my opinion |
Oct 12, 2015 2:31 AM
#94
Not everyone treats sex as a sacred activity between husband and wife. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:32 AM
#95
mayukachan said: And I wonder what is sex to them now.Not everyone treats sex as a sacred activity between husband and wife. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:33 AM
#96
bombslayer said: Something that happens on their everyday life, like a handshake.mayukachan said: And I wonder what is sex to them now.Not everyone treats sex as a sacred activity between husband and wife. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:34 AM
#97
bombslayer said: Considering its something like 65% of all marriages end in divorce and domestic partnerships tend to be more successful I would argue that love and marriage are two very separate things. Marriage is not very indicative of love anymore, unfortunately.DisdainMatto said: bombslayer said: those who have dedicated their lives to one another. So marriage is the only way two people who love each other can dedicate their lives to one another? The amount of dedication I'm talking about is the one equivalent to marriage. And well now that think of it none of this can be proven. So it's all my opinion |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:37 AM
#98
mayukachan said: Well that's not the first time I heard that phrase.I guess losing faith in humanity is just as common as that to me nowadaysbombslayer said: Something that happens on their everyday life, like a handshake.mayukachan said: Not everyone treats sex as a sacred activity between husband and wife. |
Oct 12, 2015 2:38 AM
#99
bombslayer said: You'll realize that there is beauty in this world outside of your religious viewpoints and the shit humans do. The world is a beautiful place, you just have to look.mayukachan said: Well that's not the first time I heard that phrase.I guess losing faith in humanity is just as common as that to me nowadaysbombslayer said: mayukachan said: And I wonder what is sex to them now.Not everyone treats sex as a sacred activity between husband and wife. |
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Oct 12, 2015 2:40 AM
#100
Cottonrabbit said: I would dump a guy very quickly who felt he needed to "test" our sexual compatibility before making any commitment to me. That is a very manipulative and jerk thing to do. If you can't feel the physical chemistry without having sex, there isn't any and good sex is learnt. Having said that though, if you are in a loving, wonderful relationship, it is natural to be deeply physically attracted to them and want to be with them on all levels. I would encourage waiting for the right person and not to rush into the sex but I also find marriage to be a very arbitrary start date. I think it would put a lot of pressure on the event than if the step was taken more naturally. You can't feel your sexual compatibility without having sex with someone though. Sexual compatibility isn't the same as attraction, and it isn't the same as loving someone's personality. It's not a jerk thing to say at all, it's realistic. If there isn't sexual compatibility in a relationship then both of you will feel that and the likelihood is that one of you will end up looking for sex elsewhere. Also, from your other posts, it isn't a test. Nobody is being tested and it isn't about how good someone is in bed, it's about you both being on the same level and having that kind of intimate connection. This isn't something you can figure out by talking about it. Sure, you can talk and find out about any fetishes that are kind of out there, but its not just about that. Someone up thread mentioned the risk of sex becoming a chore and they are absolutely right. Different people have very different ideas about sex, and everyone is very different in the bedroom anyway. If that doesn't match up then it will become a chore. |
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