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Aug 4, 2015 9:36 PM
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She might be one of the shittiest characters in the history of Anime. Im pretty sure she will end up being the Villain. But her stupid idealistic views mixed with her fucking sense of superiority cause she thinks she knows everythin, just wrecks this show.

The writers made a huge mistake Taking away Hajimes airtime and giving it to tsubasa. This show isnt wacky and fun anymore. This is just another show tht shouldnt have had a second Season. Extremely disappointing so far.

Obviously, the writes could have intended this and then use Hajime to save everything. But these first 5 episode have been a mission to watch. Unlike the 1st season when i finished the episode as soon as it aired


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Aug 4, 2015 9:54 PM
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Gilsandra is the villian
Aug 4, 2015 9:57 PM
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abyss333 said:
Im pretty sure she will end up being the Villain.

Villain? No. She is naive, not evil.

abyss333 said:
But her stupid idealistic views mixed with her fucking sense of superiority cause she thinks she knows everythin, just wrecks this show.

Superiority? No. Idealism is not stupid or evil; it is just naive. She wants everyone to happy and to get along, there is nothing wrong with that ideal.....Except that idealism doesn't exist in the real world.

abyss333 said:
The writers made a huge mistake Taking away Hajimes airtime and giving it to tsubasa. This show isnt wacky and fun anymore. This is just another show tht shouldnt have had a second Season. Extremely disappointing so far.

No, the show is still wacky and fun, and no, giving Hajime more screentime here would be counter productive. Hajime's genius will come out later, Tsubasa's mistake likewise will be exposed later.

Obviously, the writes could have intended this and then use Hajime to save everything. But these first 5 episode have been a mission to watch. Unlike the 1st season when i finished the episode as soon as it aired


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Aug 8, 2015 11:04 AM
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No, tsubasa's cool.

The rehashed crowds plot line with the generic glasses guy is whats's bad.
Aug 8, 2015 2:07 PM
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'Ruined' might be taking it a bit too far. The new characters are certainly not as interesting as those of the first season though.
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Aug 8, 2015 7:14 PM
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The real problem is Tsubasa is taking away potential screen time from Utsutsu. That's a fucking crime.
Aug 8, 2015 7:24 PM
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Tsubasa is cancer and has also destroyed this anime for me. The show is beyond ruined at this point.

Utsustu is still cute though.
Aug 8, 2015 7:42 PM
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Tsubasa is cancer and has also destroyed this anime for me. The show is beyond ruined at this point.


That's because you are an idiot.

Yes, Tsubasa is a cancer, but that is the point of this show, not a demerit. Tsubasa is the reason for the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". What makes Insight so friggen good is that they are willing to expose the evil of good intentions.
Aug 8, 2015 7:49 PM
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Takuan_Soho said:
Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Tsubasa is cancer and has also destroyed this anime for me. The show is beyond ruined at this point.


That's because you are an idiot.

Yes, Tsubasa is a cancer, but that is the point of this show, not a demerit. Tsubasa is the reason for the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". What makes Insight so friggen good is that they are willing to expose the evil of good intentions.


You heard it first here folks. Just because her character is the point of this show means anybody who hates it for that reason must be an idiot! Opinions are no longer valid and we must all be mindless zombies for Takuan_Soho.

Get real dude. People are allowed to hate the premise or point of a show. I feel like Tsubasa's character ruined the anime and as a viewer I am allowed that valid opinion.

By the way, name calling is a desperate thing to fall on in arguments.
Aug 8, 2015 8:00 PM
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Uou heard it first here folks. Just because her character is the point of this show means anybody who hates it for that reason must be an idiot! Opinions are no longer valid and we must all be mindless zombies for Takuan_Soho.


Yes, bow down pathetic humans, your master has spoken....

Or you could just suspend judgement and say, humm, they are not doing a normal utopia episode.

Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Get real dude. People are allowed to hate the premise or point of a show. I feel like Tsubasa's character ruined the anime and as a viewer I am allowed that valid opinion.


No, it is not a valid opinion. If you don't understand what the writers of this show are trying to say, then your "opinion" had no worth.

Kagami_Hiiragi said:
By the way, name calling is a desperate thing to fall on in arguments.
Physician heal hyself.
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Aug 8, 2015 8:07 PM

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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Takuan_Soho said:


That's because you are an idiot.

Yes, Tsubasa is a cancer, but that is the point of this show, not a demerit. Tsubasa is the reason for the expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". What makes Insight so friggen good is that they are willing to expose the evil of good intentions.


You heard it first here folks. Just because her character is the point of this show means anybody who hates it for that reason must be an idiot! Opinions are no longer valid and we must all be mindless zombies for Takuan_Soho.

Get real dude. People are allowed to hate the premise or point of a show. I feel like Tsubasa's character ruined the anime and as a viewer I am allowed that valid opinion.

By the way, name calling is a desperate thing to fall on in arguments.


No, he's right, what's been said so far makes it sound like you hate Tsubasa as a character more than the show as a whole. If something like that ruins a show for you, then that sucks and you'll end up missing out on enjoying some things.

That said, Insight, despite still being somewhat enjoyable, has definitely suffered a drop in quality. Not only was the previous plot better, but Hajime definitely made a better focal point for the show. I don't mind the whole
Takuan_Soho said:
"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
idea, but it's dragging on so goddamn much, they need to stop beating around the bush and get on with the plot (which it looks like will finally begin in ep7).
Aug 8, 2015 8:11 PM

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You try to talk smart, but in reality your argument is extremely weak. I'm ignoring your first post among my quotes because that's just silly and further confirms how weak your argument really is. Your second post is just one big assumption. You assume I don't understand the point of this show and what the writers are trying to say and seeing how illogical that truly is further weakens your argument. The third post continues to be silly and goes to prove you have no argument and know you've lost.

I'm done arguing here due to the illogical and silly points you've brought up. Maybe eventually you'll reach a level where you'll be able to argue without insults and actually understand hating the premise of a show/season and/or character (especially when she's on so much) is a valid reason for disliking a show.
Aug 8, 2015 8:12 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Get real dude. People are allowed to hate the premise or point of a show. I feel like Tsubasa's character ruined the anime and as a viewer I am allowed that valid opinion.


No, it is not a valid opinion. If you don't understand what the writers of this show are trying to say, then your "opinion" had no worth.


Validity has nothing to do with it. It's his opinion. You can argue your own opinion or his logic, but don't condemn him from above because you don't see it as 'valid'. That's a dick move.

Takuan_Soho said:
Kagami_Hiiragi said:
By the way, name calling is a desperate thing to fall on in arguments.
Physician heal hyself.

lol
Aug 8, 2015 8:16 PM
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^^ hummm, we have a whiner here.

You are supposed to dislike Tsubasa, she is idealism without thought. I pity you for not getting this point.
Aug 8, 2015 8:18 PM

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SheasonDuerulo said:

No, he's right, what's been said so far makes it sound like you hate Tsubasa as a character more than the show as a whole. If something like that ruins a show for you, then that sucks and you'll end up missing out on enjoying some things.


He's not right so don't encourage him. He himself even said her role and opinion is the point of this season. Yes, I hate Tsubasa and focusing on her has been pretty bad in my opinion since she's a core of the season. Plus, the season itself is nowhere near interesting for me and a couple good characters were limited (two characters I liked by the way). Everything I said has been valid and is a valid reason to dislike something. I can still take you seriously so I'll respond to you since the other guy can't argue and has already lost based on his last couple posts.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:26 AM

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I don't really hate Tsubasa, but unlike the first season the show is so boring, and it looks like she's at least of the reasons... too flat and cliched a character. I don't like her, I don't hate her, she makes me feel absolutely nothing, which means she's pretty much a failure as a character.
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Aug 10, 2015 4:45 PM

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People always act like if a character isn't a super genius or someone they agree with, they automatically ruin a show. At least she's a consistent and realistic character, which can be a issue in many anime.
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Aug 10, 2015 4:48 PM

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I don't think she has ruined the show because she's not even that relevant. But yes, she's a very shitty character.


Aug 17, 2015 9:00 PM

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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
SheasonDuerulo said:

No, he's right, what's been said so far makes it sound like you hate Tsubasa as a character more than the show as a whole. If something like that ruins a show for you, then that sucks and you'll end up missing out on enjoying some things.


He's not right so don't encourage him. He himself even said her role and opinion is the point of this season. Yes, I hate Tsubasa and focusing on her has been pretty bad in my opinion since she's a core of the season. Plus, the season itself is nowhere near interesting for me and a couple good characters were limited (two characters I liked by the way). Everything I said has been valid and is a valid reason to dislike something. I can still take you seriously so I'll respond to you since the other guy can't argue and has already lost based on his last couple posts.

He is.

It's fine if you hate a character, but it's stupid to think the show is bad just because it has a character you hate.
Aug 18, 2015 9:56 AM

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Darkshadow77 said:
Kagami_Hiiragi said:


He's not right so don't encourage him. He himself even said her role and opinion is the point of this season. Yes, I hate Tsubasa and focusing on her has been pretty bad in my opinion since she's a core of the season. Plus, the season itself is nowhere near interesting for me and a couple good characters were limited (two characters I liked by the way). Everything I said has been valid and is a valid reason to dislike something. I can still take you seriously so I'll respond to you since the other guy can't argue and has already lost based on his last couple posts.

He is.

It's fine if you hate a character, but it's stupid to think the show is bad just because it has a character you hate.


Though I never did this sort of thing, I can emphasize with the topic creator, anyway. Also, I don't really find it stupid if that character the person dislikes so much is one of the main characters. I've read so many times how many people will not watch Mirai Nikki anymore due to the annoyance of Yukiteru, for example.
Aug 25, 2015 12:29 PM

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I'm sorry, but if you don't get your not supposed to agree or even like Tsuabasa, and that ruins tha show for you, you ARE an idiot.
Sep 2, 2015 12:41 PM

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Jonesy974 said:
The real problem is Tsubasa is taking away potential screen time from Utsutsu. That's a fucking crime.
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Sep 6, 2015 5:07 AM
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You guys just need o chill out.

I actually liked Tsubasa a lot when she first showed up.

They obviously have a story planned out for her and after watching ep 9 I like her even more.

Yes she got annoying during those eps and was very ignorant but that was on purpose and in ep 9 we finally see her false ideals all crashing down around her.... she was just "going with the flow" and never thought for herself.

That is what this show is about.

And if they handle it right, and she grows as a character and saves the day with hajime I think it will be amazing.

I think the overall slow burn of the first eps made the jump to creepiness / action in eps 8 and 9 that much more epic.
Oct 20, 2015 6:22 PM
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I don't think she has ruined the show because she's not even that relevant. But yes, she's a very shitty character.
Dec 16, 2015 3:46 AM
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Tsubasa & Gelsadra annoyed the fck out of me this season.
Jan 20, 2016 7:49 PM

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vaikepois said:
Tsubasa & Gelsadra annoyed the fck out of me this season.
screw 30 character requirement lololololol
Jan 20, 2016 7:54 PM

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I don't know, I didnt finish first season.

Jan 20, 2016 7:59 PM

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She was absolute busty trash.
Jan 21, 2016 3:19 PM

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vaikepois said:
Tsubasa & Gelsadra annoyed the fck out of me this season.


Still enjoyed the show, Hajime and Katze saved it for me.
Mar 23, 2016 5:16 PM
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I hate Tsubasa and Gelsadra (my blood boil in every scene with him) but I wouldn't say it ruined this show. They just perflectly show how bad is effort to force everyone to think the same way. "To become one."
Mar 29, 2016 8:08 AM
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though she is annoying I love the idea behind the series.

I waited a long time for a show that would present that.

Even genius villain is better than idiot hero. In the end the guy we believed to be a nihilistic villain was the one that saved humanity, from stupidity of a hero.

It presented that being incopetent is the worst possible thing. She believed that everything she does is good, because of her own stupidity. In the end it lead to global disaster.
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Jan 7, 2018 5:42 PM
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Im with of the opinion too, that your pretty much an idiot... A show not molding to your tastes isn't bad or ruined. Cry babies like you that get so deluded and immersed into this things should take a break. Your loosing your grip with reality.
Apr 10, 2018 2:23 AM
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Tsubasa didnt even said that she is sorry,even when she meet hajime when the trouble begin,she keep saying"I just wanted to make everyone to become one"cmon,every one in your team keep telling that what u r doing is wrong but u keep ignoring them and when u realize that u were wrong,cant u tell them atleast that u r sorry coz of ignoring them,every person do faults in there life with out meaning it but learn to say sorry and stop making excuse,tsubasa make this anime go bad
May 16, 2020 1:53 AM
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There was a part of me that felt Tsubasa was annoying until I realize that she was really just earnest. Believing in herself and her ideals. Believing in justice. Believing in her friends. Bold. Honest. Fair. Make mistakes. Regret. Grow.

It's not about going with the flow - it's about thinking for yourself. Searching for the truth. Making right choices. Learning. Growing. Persevere.

I think it's beautiful!
Jul 20, 2021 1:11 AM
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i don't like her character, and her screen time is just too much. maybe because i like haijime rather than tsubasa. idk why her character is too annoying how she always think she's the kindest and the "only" hero who care about other people, i mean each person have a reason to do something so to blame someone without trying to know what the reason behind that is justtt you know, just like a judge u can send em to prison and decide how long they will spend their time by their excuse and proof. u can't decide that thing based on ur own opinion. thats why we need a jury, another reasons is hajime point of view much more realistic and interesting than tsubasa.
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Tsubasa's presence has adversely affected this show. His character or storyline changes might have negatively impacted the overall quality, consistency, or viewer experience. Fans' disappointment with these alterations could have bling bling club Barcelona led to a decline in the show's appeal or reputation.

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