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Jun 7, 2015 1:49 AM

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Psajdak said:
I just hope someone makes a good upscaler for 480p, 720p, and 1080p videos.
Why? Upscaling doesnt put in detail where there is none.
Jun 7, 2015 1:52 AM

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8k would make 1080p look like a peice of shit lol

Don't even think about 720p or SD LMAO!


Uhm no it wouldn't. Resolution is important but in the end it isn't the sole thing that makes a display great.



So in order to watch sd content no problem on a 8k tv, i have to sit 10 feet away?

I like to be a little closer though.
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Jun 7, 2015 9:02 AM

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Good luck getting a 4k monitor less than 28"


Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.
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go for it if you got the money
Jun 7, 2015 9:19 AM

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I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.
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Vargr said:
I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.


I WISH I just upgraded to 1080p. Keeping up with all this new shit is just ridiculous. 4k just came about and now, 5k, 8k are on the rise.

well jspan already got 8k. The industry cany keep up. Movies & TV shows are 720p/1080p standard though people mostly prefer 720p or even SD lol

Nothing wrong with being slow with it.
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Jun 7, 2015 10:28 AM

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Vargr said:
I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.


Don't worry, I'm still behind you (720p).

daAmazinFatB0y said:
Movies & TV shows are 720p/1080p standard though people mostly prefer 720p or even SD lol


Because of limited internet, I prefer SD nowadays. Smaller file size and barely any difference on my laptop screen either..... well, if there was any difference, I can't see it so there's that too.
Jun 7, 2015 10:32 AM

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DesuTronic said:
Syrup- said:
Good luck getting a 4k monitor less than 28"


Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.
I'm calling bullshit. How does someone spend thousands of dollars on a laptop and not know it has 4K resolution
Jun 7, 2015 10:41 AM

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Syrup- said:
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Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.
I'm calling bullshit. How does someone spend thousands of dollars on a laptop and not know it has 4K resolution

He was talking about himself.

Anyway. Personally I like to have multiple monitors, hence they can't really be much bigger than 24", otherwise I'd have to move my head too much or move further away, which again makes a larger screen pointless. Since I'm watching the screen from like 1-2 feet away, judging from that graph 4k should already be noticeable. So I guess I'll get some if they become sufficiently cheap. But then again there would be the problem with running games at my monitor's native resolution, since gaming at that resolution requires A LOT of horse power. So I guess I'll stay on 1080p for another 3-4 years or so. Besides, there's not much 2160p media available yet anyway.
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DesuTronic said:
Syrup- said:
Good luck getting a 4k monitor less than 28"


Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.


Man, the scaling is already bad on my 28", can't imagine squinting at everything in 19 inches lol.
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daAmazinFatB0y said:
Bloodshade said:


Uhm no it wouldn't. Resolution is important but in the end it isn't the sole thing that makes a display great.



So in order to watch sd content no problem on a 8k tv, i have to sit 10 feet away?

I like to be a little closer though.


It upscales depending on what you are using. I'm just saying its not worth it. You either have to sit really close to get the benefit of high resolution and kill your eyes while your at it, or you have to get a super huge television which also isn't worth it. If you want a true high definition immersive experience buy a top of the line project for 3000 to 5000 dollars, you won't be disappointed. Besides companies haven't even perfected 1080p quality, and they are jumping to higher resolution displays because they are easy to market and they know people will buy into it.

Get this if you have money to blow:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VPLVW1100ES-4K-Projector/dp/B00HSI21UE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1433729486&sr=1-3&keywords=Projector+4k

Here are some less pricey options:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_3?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A300334%2Ck%3AProjector%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A3081743011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A3365277011%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&keywords=Projector&ie=UTF8&qid=1433729319

Here is a high quality screen:
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-Projection-Projector-300-inch/dp/B00JLA9KOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433729966&sr=8-1&keywords=projector+screen+300+inch

Well there you go. If you have money for that, then you can me some as well.


daAmazinFatB0y said:
Vargr said:
I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.


I WISH I just upgraded to 1080p. Keeping up with all this new shit is just ridiculous. 4k just came about and now, 5k, 8k are on the rise.

well jspan already got 8k. The industry cany keep up. Movies & TV shows are 720p/1080p standard though people mostly prefer 720p or even SD lol

Nothing wrong with being slow with it.


Right, things progress way to quickly, but its not the smartest thing to get the latest and greatest thing. People who buy 4k now are gonna regret it 5 years down (unless you are rich). Either way people will eventually experience higher resolutions. Its inevitable.

Speaking of Japan. Japan is the most technologically advanced country in the world, but most of there technologies are novelty like. 90% of the stuff that comes out of Japan is just plain pointless technology. While 10% is actually useful, like medical advancements within that 10%.
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DesuTronic said:


Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.


Man, the scaling is already bad on my 28", can't imagine squinting at everything in 19 inches lol.
why aren't you up scaling

inb4 "oh I have all those pixels I should use them durr"
Jun 7, 2015 8:28 PM

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I'm completely fine with just 720p. 1080p is always nice though. I honestly, don't care much about 4k gaming.
Jun 7, 2015 8:49 PM

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I mean I'm perfectly fine with sticking at 1080p for now. If I had a lot of disposable income I'd probably upgrade, but as of now is it's too expensive currently for me to justify a 4k upgrade.
Jun 8, 2015 12:03 AM

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It all depends on screen pixel density. Playing at a higher resolution of 4k will be worth its price only if one could perceive more visual detail by playing at said resolution, and this applies to hardcore gamers who pay more attention to visual fidelity.
The average joe who games occasionally on their console probably wouldn't see the incentive to buy a 4k monitor for pc gaming. Nonetheless, 4K will become a norm in monitors in the next few years as it gets cheaper, regardless of whether it is beneficial or not.
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KingKazama said:
DesuTronic said:


Can't tell if serious or not. My friend has a laptop with a 4K 19" screen. Perfectly fine with using it. Didn't even notice it was 4K until he showed me a small picture that on my screen looked big.


Man, the scaling is already bad on my 28", can't imagine squinting at everything in 19 inches lol.


Like I said no need to squint for anything. He just unscaled everything.
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daAmazinFatB0y said:
Vargr said:
I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.


I WISH I just upgraded to 1080p. Keeping up with all this new shit is just ridiculous. 4k just came about and now, 5k, 8k are on the rise.

well jspan already got 8k. The industry cany keep up. Movies & TV shows are 720p/1080p standard though people mostly prefer 720p or even SD lol

Nothing wrong with being slow with it.


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Vargr said:
I upgraded to 1080p just recently, guess im always late with these things.


Don't worry, I'm still behind you (720p).

daAmazinFatB0y said:
Movies & TV shows are 720p/1080p standard though people mostly prefer 720p or even SD lol


Because of limited internet, I prefer SD nowadays. Smaller file size and barely any difference on my laptop screen either..... well, if there was any difference, I can't see it so there's that too.


Well, i've had a 720p tv for idk, 6 years perhaps. I got that when the price was acceptable, i think it was around 500 dollars or so, on todays exchange rate (around 740 at the time). That tv produced a lot of heat, was thick and heavy. So i bought this 1080p smart tv (there was no other choice, they were selling only smart tv). Since im not interested in 3D and stuff. I honestly don't see much difference, but my room got 5-10 celsius colder. XD

The same goes for my pc, i can play todays games, but it's already 6 years old, so sometimes i can feel it's age. Not going to upgrade the processor and motherboard until one of them fails. Not that i can upgrade the cpu without the motherboard... Good ol' socket 1366 :/

To be completely honest, the difference might be noticable on a quality movie, but anime is a little different, much less detailed.
Jul 6, 2015 9:19 AM
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I have a 4K TV ( ) but I really don't bother streaming in 4K definition though. My internet isnt brilliant, shorter <5minute videos fine but a movie or 20+ minute episode etc would be a nightmare, would have to leave it buffering an hour lol... 1080p is fine for me and I can go for 480p + tbh, most of the anime I watch is 480p quality unless its a BRrip or something
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streaming in 4K definition
is there anything that makes this worth it? I imagine most of the things you would be watching in that definition would just be upscaled renders anyway
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Kinda pointless right now.

It's just way too expensive to be able to run 4k, especially at a playable speed.

Consoles are way too weak to handle 4k also, so it won't be hitting mainstream consumers anytime soon.

Also, a lot of people really just don't care about it. For most people 1080p is good enough and offers the best quality/performance - price right now.
Jul 6, 2015 7:18 PM

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4k is overkill for me, i'd settle for 1080p if i were to upgrade.

i still game with 768p
Jul 7, 2015 5:43 AM

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4K is overkill, you need at least a $3k setup to max out a game like Witcher 3. Though all I really do now is work on fun programming projects, anime and a few JRPGs here and there as they are slowly moving to PC and PS4 so there's no real point. And the amount of native 4K entertainment is way too small so far, old copper networks most countries are still relying on can't handle 4k streaming at a reasonable rate as well. That being said, playing on a six year old 1366x768 52" tv, I can't really notice a difference sitting maybe 4 metres away from the screen anyway.

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At least I have a computer that can handle it as well as a UHD 55 inch Samsung TV so I am prepared.
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4K gaming is a complete waste at this point in time. The reason being developers sacrifice gameplay just for some ooh ahh graphics that are pointless unless the gameplay lives up to its potential. I could care less about PC being able to do 4K, and honestly getting a PC that can do that is expensive. We will just have to see what the gaming future brings but please devs at some point you just have to say NO and just stick to basics. At some point we have to stop these graphical upgrades and focus more on gameplay. There's a point when things go TOO far.
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Its still in the beginner stages but 4K is very noticeable on large TVs. You also have the upscaling feature. With the Neo and Scorpio on the horizon 4k seems pretty legit and its affordable, 4k televisions are cheap.
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1920x1080 is too little at sizes above 24 inches, but 4K is too demanding for newer games and apparently causes problems with mice in a lot of programs. You'd need a pretty big screen to appreciate the difference, I imagine. I like the happy middle, 2560x1440. I wish I could rip Blu-rays at that resolution. Well, 4K ripping is already asking for much. Apparently, MakeMKV recognizes 4K discs with my type of Blu-ray drive (WH16NS40), but no one's been able to rip them yet. The files would be huge, though. 4K downscaled to 2560x1440 would save a lot of space. I've tried using compression software before, but it wasn't as simple as I hoped. A big 4K display is something I'd get for viewing my high res pictures and scans, not for playing games.

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4k gaming isn't at a place where it is worth investing in. Even the top end card struggle to deliver a consistent 60fps in the newer games on their own. Monitors and TVs are cheap now starting as low as £300 or £400 for a 32"-42" screen.
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4k won't be a thing in console gaming for a decade or two despite TVs going down in price, it's too expensive and the world isn't entirely ready for the internet speed requirements yet. It's unfeasible to stream 4k on netflix for most people.
decade? Lol


And to the topic. I love my 3440x1440 Monitor. 1080 is like a ant to me now.
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I'm not a graphics nut, I haven't really played on 1080p that much. Select PS3 games and maybe some PS4. PC? I've never had a monitor beyond 1440x900. I'm more or less use to 720p.

4K doesn't seem worth it to me nor does 1440p for gaming. If your a graphics nut, then maybe but I personally can't see myself shelling out the cost of my gpu on a higher res monitor. 1080p is just fine. Plus with the higher res comes harder strain on performance, you'll have to upgrade much sooner than someone on 1080p would if you want to keep your 144/120/60fps in new titles overtime.

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I was fine playing most of the time without even bothering having HDMI, I don't think the difference between 1080p and 4k is enough for me to care about it.
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I just don't care that much. I can still play PS2 games w/o an issue. What I do care about is fps, though.

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Amazing. Only if you have a really good PC. But of course it's amazing. The images look gorgeous.
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Too expensive , you need to wait for a few years for its price to decrease and also wait for the gpu/cpu to improve
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Saw it, wasn't impressed.

Anything beyound 1080p, IMO, is unnecessary.
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Max I played was 2k but I generally stick to 1080p.

My friends told me high res is not good for eyes so m bit scared to try it.

But 4k sounds awesome.
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Too expensive , you need to wait for a few years for its price to decrease and also wait for the gpu/cpu to improve
eh no? You can get a 4k monitor for 250$?
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Too expensive , you need to wait for a few years for its price to decrease and also wait for the gpu/cpu to improve
eh no? You can get a 4k monitor for 250$?
Well I get it but then you need a decent gpu and cpu to run games at 4K , a GTX 1080 should be fine I guess but that is kind of expensive
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eh no? You can get a 4k monitor for 250$?
Well I get it but then you need a decent gpu and cpu to run games at 4K , a GTX 1080 should be fine I guess but that is kind of expensive
you don't have to max it out. Get a 1060/70. I have a 1080 but only play league so it was kind of a waste.
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Well I get it but then you need a decent gpu and cpu to run games at 4K , a GTX 1080 should be fine I guess but that is kind of expensive
if you want a 4k screen you must use it lol gettting a 1060 or 1070 may run 4k but the fps will be 30-40 depending on the game which means a gtx 1080 is needed for smoth 4K gaming you don't have to max it out. Get a 1060/70. I have a 1080 but only play league so it was kind of a waste.
well thats why i said you need to wait a bit for the graphics card to give it 2-3 years to improve and it will be a lot cheaper . and at least for me i think 4k is a bit too much i mean u can buy it if u really want to but then i think 1080p gaming is more than enough for me at least lol my gtx 970 runs most games at 1080p and i dont think i will need a 4k screeen anytime soon
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if you want a 4k screen you must use it lol gettting a 1060 or 1070 may run 4k but the fps will be 30-40 depending on the game which means a gtx 1080 is needed for smoth 4K gaming you don't have to max it out. Get a 1060/70. I have a 1080 but only play league so it was kind of a waste.
well thats why i said you need to wait a bit for the graphics card to give it 2-3 years to improve and it will be a lot cheaper . and at least for me i think 4k is a bit too much i mean u can buy it if u really want to but then i think 1080p gaming is more than enough for me at least lol my gtx 970 runs most games at 1080p and i dont think i will need a 4k screeen anytime soon

I think it is worth it if you compare tiny 1080 to 3440x1440 which I have


it might be able to look at the links directly so the images won't be so small
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well thats why i said you need to wait a bit for the graphics card to give it 2-3 years to improve and it will be a lot cheaper . and at least for me i think 4k is a bit too much i mean u can buy it if u really want to but then i think 1080p gaming is more than enough for me at least lol my gtx 970 runs most games at 1080p and i dont think i will need a 4k screeen anytime soon

I think it is worth it if you compare tiny 1080 to 3440x1440 which I have


it might be able to look at the links directly so the images won't be so small
You're comparing aspect ratio with resolution, which doesn't make a lot of sense. They have ultra widescreen 1080 monitors. Here's a fair comparison.


I lowered the resolution to 2580x1080. But you can't tell the difference if you don't have a monitor with a higher res than 1080.

One of the big benefits of a higher res monitor is more room. Icons and such are smaller.

I wish Blu-rays and DVDs didn't have black bars. Blu-rays are all 16:9, even if the movie is narrower. If i wanted to watch my MKV copies on an ultra wide monitor, I'd have to zoom in, which makes an ultra wide monitor kind of pointless for me.
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I think it is worth it if you compare tiny 1080 to 3440x1440 which I have


it might be able to look at the links directly so the images won't be so small
You're comparing aspect ratio with resolution, which doesn't make a lot of sense. They have ultra widescreen 1080 monitors. Here's a fair comparison.


I lowered the resolution to 2580x1080. But you can't tell the difference if you don't have a monitor with a higher res than 1080.

One of the big benefits of a higher res monitor is more room. Icons and such are smaller.

I wish Blu-rays and DVDs didn't have black bars. Blu-rays are all 16:9, even if the movie is narrower. If i wanted to watch my MKV copies on an ultra wide monitor, I'd have to zoom in, which makes an ultra wide monitor kind of pointless for me.

yes you can.... you cannot see the extra space? lmfao There is a HUGE difference. unless you are blind
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You're comparing aspect ratio with resolution, which doesn't make a lot of sense. They have ultra widescreen 1080 monitors. Here's a fair comparison.


I lowered the resolution to 2580x1080. But you can't tell the difference if you don't have a monitor with a higher res than 1080.

One of the big benefits of a higher res monitor is more room. Icons and such are smaller.

I wish Blu-rays and DVDs didn't have black bars. Blu-rays are all 16:9, even if the movie is narrower. If i wanted to watch my MKV copies on an ultra wide monitor, I'd have to zoom in, which makes an ultra wide monitor kind of pointless for me.

yes you can.... you cannot see the extra space? lmfao There is a HUGE difference. unless you are blind
On a 1920x1080 monitor? Only if you zoom in on both pictures, in which case you won't see the big picture. By the way, if you wanted to do a fair comparison, you'd post both pictures as PNG, not the higher res ultra wide as a PNG and the lower res wide as a crappy JPEG.

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yes you can.... you cannot see the extra space? lmfao There is a HUGE difference. unless you are blind
On a 1920x1080 monitor? Only if you zoom in on both pictures, in which case you won't see the big picture. By the way, if you wanted to do a fair comparison, you'd post both pictures as PNG, not the higher res ultra wide as a PNG and the lower res wide as a crappy JPEG.
um to the pics I posted. you couldn't see the huge amount of extra space you get? They were png I guess it posted it as jgpeg when I uploaded it
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On a 1920x1080 monitor? Only if you zoom in on both pictures, in which case you won't see the big picture. By the way, if you wanted to do a fair comparison, you'd post both pictures as PNG, not the higher res ultra wide as a PNG and the lower res wide as a crappy JPEG.
um to the pics I posted. you couldn't see the huge amount of extra space you get? They were png I guess it posted it as jgpeg when I uploaded it
You don't get what I'm saying. Of course ultra wide has more space than wide, but Revolt1021 and you were talking about resolution, not aspect ratio. That's why I took your ultra wide picture and lowered the res to 1080.

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4K is a waste of time until we can get high enough resolution textures to even see the detail. Yeah, it's almost like having free antialiasing, but it also costs 4x as much power. That's like saying, you own a PS4- for PS4K you need 4x the power just to get some AA. When in reality you only need about 10-20% more power. Thats a difference of 380-390%.

So in short, 4K will have it's use, but not until we have systems that are much more powerful than we have now. I'm thinking 4x as powerful as the new PS4-NEO would be a good number. PS4-NEO is 4.14 TFLOPS, so around 16 TFLOPS.

And even when we get to 16 TFLOPS, you have to have assets to match, so that all depends on devs.

So for now, IMO, it's just a bit of extra AA. If you want to spend an extra $1500 for that, that's you. Keep in mind, that's one setting. For most of us, that's not worth it. Too miniscule to call an upgrade at this time.
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