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Mar 26, 2015 12:18 PM

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wow so hide did die in the manga as well but by being eaten by kaneki O.O,dem i though hide was just an illusion there (or was hoping).Really sucks when a supporting character is saved the first time but still dies in the end,feels anticlimactic
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:19 PM

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How disappointing. This episode was brutal in comparison to the last 3-4. They didn't need to reminisce about the cafe again, since they already did that (and did well the first time). They also didn't need 10000 shots of the cafe burning. The light/dark contrast during Kaneki and Hide's conversation just felt awkward, as did Kaneki's long walk holding Hide. What even was the point of that, exactly? This episode was a mess.

And of course, holy lol at the acoustic Unravel insert.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:20 PM

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Btw, did thy already take care of the dead bodies? Or were Amon and Seidou's bodies not there when they arrived?


 
Mar 26, 2015 12:21 PM
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Btw, did thy already take care of the dead bodies? Or were Amon and Seidou's bodies not there when they arrived?

There bodies weren't there so I suppose they got taken away.
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:23 PM

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that... was awful. wtf? not even unravel could save this shit.
As an insert song, Unravel can only make things much, much worse.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:24 PM
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So Hide was the body on the poster huh, dammit i will never look at that picutre the same again. Liked that they played Unravel in the end.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:26 PM

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What the hell happened? And what was that fucking 10 minutes walking scene?!

I have to finish the manga because this last episode had no sense for me.
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:27 PM

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Wanted to see more...well let's home there will be a sequel next year :)

Gonna read manga now!
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:34 PM

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sooo... is there like an continuation to this?
The whole season felt like it was building up to something, something that never really happened. So much introduced but never resolved. And dramatizing Hides death so much, but actually I couldn't really care about him because he got hardly any development. Also, when people hyped over Arima and I wasn't even sure who he is...
The show feels like it's just really enjoyable for a manga reader while I think an adaptation should be able to stand on it's own. When they are trying to force me so hard into reading the source material I don't really feel like doing so...
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:34 PM

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Noro was merciful duh, no missing limbs.
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:35 PM
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So the ending finally came and I'm not disappointed. The Kaneki Vs Arima fight was off screen but anyone can guess what happens since Arima single handly fought the owl. The whole scene was a nice touch. Touka being saved by Ayato. Then her later opening Re. This season is going to have so many mixed reviews but I'm giving. 9/10
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:37 PM

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I was so impressed by the figurative meaning of the latter portion of the episode! Hide put his all (his humanity) into trying to make kaneki coffee--An instance that can define humanity as caring for others even when you are down or also in need (as hide was literally bleeding to death). From this endeavor kaneki regained his sense of humanity, revealed by the figurative coloration of his hair and eyes. I found it interesting how towards the end, it was practically a clash of humanity vs. humanity (as opposed to humanity vs. ghoul). I think that in this series hide stood as the pedestal of humanity and both the ghouls and civilization at large have a lot to learn from hide's example if they are to live together in peace, something touka was forced to learn as she was forced to let kaneki act as a martyr even though it pained her to let him go.
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:42 PM

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There are thing that need to be explained,so we need a third season asap.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:43 PM
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Mar 26, 2015 12:43 PM

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I'M SO DISAPPOINTED -________________-
BOOOOORRRIING!!!


i have so many things to say I'm so mad!!! >___<
I expected so much.. grrrr!!!!
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:45 PM

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Awful ending holy shit
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:48 PM

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No full kakuja, no Arima vs Kaneki, no hide got eaten. They didnt even show Kaneki's death. I mean WTF? Only thing i liked about this final is acoustic unravel version... Hope we wont get :RE adaptation till we get a remake.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:49 PM

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i must say that it was pretty deep when kaneki was carrying hide. Didn't expect that hide was the one that kaneki carried in the promo :/. Really enjoyed this season. Now to read the manga
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:49 PM

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I don't really get where you people all get this shit about "Kaneki eats Hide, and kaneki dies."

I haven't really read the manga, planning to do so. But, There really is no proof about anything of that happening, so stop making false assumptions. 8|
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:53 PM
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I don't really get where you people all get this shit about "Kaneki eats Hide, and kaneki dies."

I haven't really read the manga, planning to do so. But, There really is no proof about anything of that happening, so stop making false assumptions. 8|

You'll understand once you read the manga.
 
Mar 26, 2015 12:55 PM

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So the body in the white cloth from the promo picture was Hide's body TT_TT
I could have never guessed! The way they were both killed off like that makes me so mad! But that scene when Kaneki was carrying him with Unravel in the background was beautiful!
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:00 PM

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Well... I mean... at least that acoustic version of Unravel was nice.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:00 PM
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Not even Unravel saved this episode for me...

I guess my expectations were crushed and i'm honestly pretty butt hurt about it lol
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:06 PM

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the only thing I liked about tga were the suzuya/shinohara scenes and the ending song. That's all. episode 12 was just bad just like the rest of the anime.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:06 PM

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Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:11 PM

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Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!




Stop asking about the manga you lazy fucks,go read it,its probably the best choice you can make in your pitiful lives if you havent already read that masterpiece.
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Mar 26, 2015 1:11 PM

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Pls don't call this thing an anime.

I slept when I watching this final ep.

Pls forget this season, she is ridiculous.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:12 PM
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Helenus said:
Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!


 
Mar 26, 2015 1:12 PM

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Wow that was even worse than I expected

Helenus said:
Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!

Almost everything is different, if you want to know the story written by Ishida read the manga from chapter 1.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:12 PM

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Anti-climatic ending...very very slow and unentertaining.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:17 PM
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Wyzdm said:
Wow that was even worse than I expected

Helenus said:
Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!

Almost everything is different, if you want to know the story written by Ishida read the manga from chapter 1.


I honestly don't think you have to start from the beginning; you only have to read from where season 1 left off. I myself watched season 1, then read the manga immediently afterwards(this was a while ago) and felt little to no difference, aside from the omission of a single event as well as the chronological rearrangement of others.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:19 PM

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I somehow expected an ending like this. idk why
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:19 PM

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Wyzdm said:
Wow that was even worse than I expected


Almost everything is different, if you want to know the story written by Ishida read the manga from chapter 1.


I honestly don't think you have to start from the beginning; you only have to read from where season 1 left off. I myself watched season 1, then read the manga immediently afterwards(this was a while ago) and felt little to no difference, aside from the omission of a single event as well as the chronological rearrangement of others.


No,you stop that,STOP BAD BAKADOOD,STOP.

Go read it from the start,no bullshit like "WHERE SEASON 1 LEFT OFF BLABLA"
Its a very stupid move if you do that.
Its just 120-ish chapters,it takes no more than a few hours depending on your speed.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:20 PM

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I honestly don't think you have to start from the beginning; you only have to read from where season 1 left off. I myself watched season 1, then read the manga immediently afterwards(this was a while ago) and felt little to no difference, aside from the omission of a single event as well as the chronological rearrangement of others.

There is a lot of differences and lots of stuff skipped out as well. It'll be a bit boring since one already knows what happens at many parts which is why I think one should speed read the manga till the Anteiku arc.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:25 PM
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This whole season was shit but can someone tell me why Kaneki covered Hide in a blanket while carrying him? From what I see it was just for dramatic effect when it blew away. I'm just wondering if there was any deeper meaning.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:27 PM
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i have to say,this season of tokyo ghoul has the best fights and the best AMVs ever. There was just so many awesome fights to pick from to make a good AMV.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:27 PM
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Wyzdm said:
BakaDood said:
I honestly don't think you have to start from the beginning; you only have to read from where season 1 left off. I myself watched season 1, then read the manga immediently afterwards(this was a while ago) and felt little to no difference, aside from the omission of a single event as well as the chronological rearrangement of others.

There is a lot of differences and lots of stuff skipped out as well. It'll be a bit boring since one already knows what happens at many parts which is why I think one should speed read the manga till the Anteiku arc.


[spoiler] Alright, tell me everything that was left off, up until Kaneki's triumph over Jason, in the anime. Like I said, the only differences I saw was that Touka and Kaneki didn't visit the CCG in school uniforms, and the Hanami/Touka/Kaneki vs Mado/Amon fight, as well as the Gourmet arc, occured in reverse order. Like I said, an anime only watcher could understand everything up until the second season, at which point a HUGE amount of highly important events were taken out.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:28 PM

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This whole season was shit but can someone tell me why Kaneki covered Hide in a blanket while carrying him? From what I see it was just for dramatic effect when it blew away. I'm just wondering if there was any deeper meaning.


Cover of TG root A.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:29 PM

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So, TG has wrecked my heart yet again. The pain is real...

And I'm in denial about Hide. :'(

Of course manga is better, and you can't compare it to anime. And also the story is different. I'm a bit disappointed, but I enjoyed this anyway. It has some good points.

There is some good OST, like Glassy Sky, On my own, ending (Kisetsu wa tsugitsugi shindeiku) and this beautiful version of Unravel from last ep.

As I said, the story is different. I don't hate it, after all it was Ishida who wrote it. But I think it's enjoyable only for people who read manga, because otherwise you won't understand what's going on. Oh, and only if you don't compare it to manga, because it's like comparing a summary to an amazing book. So it was ok, about 5.5/10.

Art: ending cards by Ishida are masterpieces. They are beautiful - I love each one of them. And imo, they can tell better stories in about 1,5 min than what is in whole episode. Like that card about Hinami from 7th ep. Also I like the graphics. The fights look amazing. But a big minus for Arima's design - he looks like a character from yaoi, like many has already pointed out. His fighting is cool, but that face...

So overall I would rate it about 7/10. Why so high you may ask. Because:
- it was written by Ishida,
- I'm TG fan and I enjoy everything associated with TG,
- I really liked music and art,
- I don't compare this to manga.

So it's probably higher than it deserves, but I don't care. It's your problem, if you can't sleep at night because someone has a different opinion. 7/10

Edit: I'm changing it to 7, because after thinking it through -good- fits better than -very good-.
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Mar 26, 2015 1:31 PM

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I hate feeling disappointed at the end of a great series and loved when unravel was played. But this episode was meh fair enough though it was just a breather but tbh this series kind of let me down. The main reason is the opening was absolute shit I mean who thought it would be good opening song I know most people skipped it and I would of too, but here's the sad part if I skipped the opening like other people I would have hardly seen Kaneki at all this season.
I did really enjoy the season over all I think I might just give the manga ago due to hearing a great response from its fans. Well wouldn't mind 3rd season because I loved season 1

 
Mar 26, 2015 1:32 PM

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Tokyo ghoul. So sad. 4/10
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Mar 26, 2015 1:36 PM

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Does this count as hint or something?





Actually :RE is a direct reference to Tokyo Ghoul :Re manga. Continuation from where the original tokyo ghoul ended. http://myanimelist.net/manga/81117/Tokyo_Ghoul:re
Manga is relatively fresh as it started publishing last October so I wont be anticipating a new tokyo ghoul season any time soon.

Major spoilers ahead.


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Mar 26, 2015 1:39 PM
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I you give this garbage more than 5/10, then you are a delusional fanboy. Heck, even fanboys should not give this lazy piece of crap anime high scores.

My only hope is someone other than studio Pierrot makes a proper season 2 (S1 was decent enough not to be remade) and continues TG:re.
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:40 PM

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Well you should read the manga again because you left out lots of difference.I don't have time to point out all the differences and even if I did I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. Most I'll do is link you to one thread. You can search for more by yourself if you want.

http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2d5h3p/tokyo_ghoul_manga_vs_the_anime_so_far_what_are/
 
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Liked this season better than S1 so I might bump this from a 4/10 to a 5/10 (idk,though this season was pretty bad).

Idk,I liked the action and Ghoul Kaneki,aside from that nothing else.

Also Unravel ftw.

 
Mar 26, 2015 1:42 PM

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Helenus said:
Could someone point out the things that were different/missing in the last anime episode in comparison to the manga?

Arigatou!




Stop asking about the manga you lazy fucks,go read it,its probably the best choice you can make in your pitiful lives if you havent already read that masterpiece.

You complain about folks not reading the manga yet you spoon-feed them what they were asking for?
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:43 PM

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Okay so I'm part of the minority who actually enjoyed this season. The first few episodes were slow af, but towards episode 9 it got really good. Kaneki and Hide having a moment for the last time was bittersweet. It seems Noro beat Hide up just the right amount to kill him slowly and make him suffer.. Showing Kaneki carry Hide with Unravel playing in the background was cruel.

Full season : 6/10
Episode 9-12 : 8/10
Episode 12: 10/10

For those of you who don't know but keep asking and don't want to read the manga.
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Mar 26, 2015 1:45 PM

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FrozenRemains said:




Stop asking about the manga you lazy fucks,go read it,its probably the best choice you can make in your pitiful lives if you havent already read that masterpiece.

You complain about folks not reading the manga yet you spoon-feed them what they were asking for?


I must be nice so they listen to me.
They think "oh shit this guy helped me and explained stuff to me" i trust him now,cool guy! maybe i go read the manga indeed,he must know what hes talking about!
 
Mar 26, 2015 1:46 PM

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Mar 26, 2015 1:48 PM

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Can someone explain to me in a spoiler tab what V14 is? Everyone that read the manga keeps talking about YOU SHALL NOT PASS lol

The feels at the end tho.

EDIT: I'm gonna start reading the manga lol.
 
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