| I am totally for the death penalty. Why should these useless people, that are nothing but burdens to society, and a danger to themselves and others be allowed to live. Besides, the tax dollars of Americans are being used to feed and house prisoners. If you ask me, it's kind of a waste. |
| "It's time for beatin' the homeless to the oldies!" - Hajime Muroto. |
| I personally think putting someone in permanent isolation is far more torturing than killing them off instantly. You're putting them through years/and or decades of mental suffering compared to a few minutes of intense physical torture. anyway I'm for it I guess though I'd only use it in the case of an a-class radical (e.g. Osama bin Laden) |
Lost_Future said: Well, except for my own claims (I've been diagnosed as one), some people called me a sociopath because of some of my claims.Immahnoob said: And it's funny how nobody is thinking of prison here as rehabilitation. They all think of revenge, hah, then they call me a sociopath. Who called you a sociopath? Which is pretty fucking ignorant if you ask me. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| For Murderers, Rapists and Pedophiles yes, They deserve to die as they are comitting taboo's that are far beyond anything else. |
| IMO: Death Penalty > Life in Prison |
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haydnwright said: DurrrrrrrFor Murderers, Rapists and Pedophiles yes, They deserve to die as they are comitting taboo's that are far beyond anything else. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I'm for it |
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| I'm against it. Killing people is wrong. |
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Syrup- said: The death penalty is too soft for most criminals. >:) what is said above is true, but the problem is that 5ish % of them that its to hard on. used to be legal, but its illegal now. |
haydnwright said: For Murderers, Rapists and Pedophiles yes, They deserve to die as they are comitting taboo's that are far beyond anything else. Just presenting an argument from that other thread: Why pedos but not homosexuals? |
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Mikasa said: He means child molesters...haydnwright said: For Murderers, Rapists and Pedophiles yes, They deserve to die as they are comitting taboo's that are far beyond anything else. Just presenting an argument from that other thread: Why pedos but not homosexuals? I don't see a reason for killing them anyway, revenge is mostly useless. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Punishment isn't revenge. Death Penalty doesn't have to be about revenge. |
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Mikasa said: Punishment? Punishment isn't revenge. Death Penalty doesn't have to be about revenge. "Revenge is a harmful action against a person or group in response to a grievance, be it real or perceived. It is also called payback, retribution, retaliation or vengeance;" That's revenge. What else does killing him or her do? Nothing, it doesn't fix anything nor does it help in any way, oh, except for the ones that wanted him dead. Basically, those that wanted revenge. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
GhostlyBoo said: Jail penalty stops crimes as much as death penalty. Durrr.death penalty helps stop future crimes more than a jail penalty. We lose someone that could be rehabilitated, someone that can be put to work and we waste a ton of money on killing him when we can as well not do so and not become a bunch of hypocrites because some people need emotional satisfaction. GhostlyBoo said: By definition it is, prove that it isn't. "Obvious" is not an argument.same with death penalty, don't dare say "it's nothing but revenge", because it's OBVIOUSLY not, GhostlyBoo said: Funny you say that when crimes have plummeted everywhere since the death penalty was abolished, it seems people are more afraid of being locked for life or for a long time rather than being killed.because they fear the punishment now. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| So you think they should take a gun and shoot them in the head...? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| So who's going to be the executioner? What about his mental health? The mess it'll produce? The negative effects on the other viewers? How does the death penalty prove to be a better option than rehabilitation or prison for life anyway? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Yeah, having the death penalty and having it happen to me wouldn't be funny at all. And it's quite hard to win an argument in which society loses. So you'll just waste more money on shit that will probably not work, have some "ignorant" (keyword) soldier kill a person they don't know jack shit about and just negatively influence the soldier some more and the other viewers because of what reason again? I don't remember why the death penalty is necessary again... You're jumping some steps. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| For. Murders deserve to die and should be put to death expeditiously so as not to waste taxpayer money keeping them in jail and feeding them. I'd personally like to see it expanded to rapists as well because I find rape even more despicable than murder. |
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| Indeed, if being idealistic means being rational and wanting the greatest outcome out of something, then so be it. That doesn't change a lack of argument here. I thought you'd bring some actual argument, yes, there will, most of the times, be negative influences on a persons mental health if they're committing certain atrocious acts, like execution in our case. No, but that doesn't disprove my stance either, so what if we don't need 7000 million pieces to properly work for producing? Should we kill them all? When do we draw the line? Why can't we have a better situation instead of making it even worse? If there was negative influences from the crime of the one that we're trying to execute, why should we make it even worse for the executioners, viewers and make it easier to rationalize the type of behavior like: "Did X atrocious act, eliminate."? All you said is based on assumptions and emotion, I don't see why you're trying to argue with me with this shoddy stance. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| So where's your argument? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Having less people alive =/=> "better" nice world. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Yes, so, when will you post an argument? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| So it's your forfeit, I'm fine with that. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| It is not allowed here, and I'm against it. Those who deserve it should die working for the society they tainted with their sins. |
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| Why don't you do that and show it to me? Maybe then you'll have an argument. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| varies and depends |
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| No, actually, you're the one that made the claim that: Behelfut said: Having more people alive =/=> "better" nice, more productive world. So the burden of proof is on you. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Once a person is no longer a threat you shouldn't have to kill them. Truly dangerous peeps should be killed if apprehending them is impossible for whatever reason but after that I think everyone deserves a chance at rehabilitation. There's far better ways to tackle overpopulation as well. When you think about it the death penalty wouldn't really make any kind of dent. As for the betterment of humanity, I guess sterilization could be a thing. I've seen way too many sickos get out of prison or whatever and have families who end up just as fucked up. And I'll admit that's not much more humane than the death penalty itself but that's kinda the point. |
Fo-Fai said: snip And how would you make that a law, Fo-Fai? Also, forced sterilization because of a potential fucked up family member? Like, it's not even a given? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Violent tendencies don't always run in the family, yea but when we're talking about people who we're trying to find a substitute for the death penalty for, it's tough to come up with something that makes everyone happy at the end of the day. Could be where the rehab comes in as well, maybe. More often than not it's probably a good thing to keep molesters and murderers from not only passing down those traits to their kids but also raising kids at all. On top of that I'm at least 100x more forgiving than most people and when I think of who would be deserving of the death penalty, it's usually pretty extreme cases. Which I should have been clear on I guess. |
| You don't need to make everyone happy, hell, in the case of the law, you don't need to make anyone happy. The idea is to pass proper justice. On the assumption that they do indeed "pass" that to their children either through genes or education. So rehabilitated individuals no longer have any right to have a family? Yes, but I'm talking about the law here, how will you make it so that it works? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Anything can become law. When I think of how many bullshit laws that exist in my country already, that don't necessarily entail 'proper justice' I could easily see a bill for something like this. In today's day and age would it get passed? That's the question I can't really answer but I'd lean towards no. Which is whatever, not everyone sees the world how I do but imo trimming unwanted branches is a good thing long term. I'm sure some activists would call shenanigans or whatever but that's how it is for just about everything right? It's not all about genetics. And no, rehab is too geared towards trying to change people when there's some people that you just can't change. There should be more focus on examination and figuring out exactly the extent of whatever mental problems an individual has and moving from there. And yes in severe enough cases I think the freedom to procreate should be taken away, especially if traditional rehab isn't gonna do shit for the person anyway. It's better than killing them right? The main support would be from people who oppose the death penalty in all circumstances but want more than to just let people walk after doing some time, when dealing with heinous crimes. And for those who'd like to adjust rehab to allow for people to not rot in prison until they die. |
| More threads please... OT: Yes |
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| It's a waste of human life. We could've experimented on them and gained insight instead. |
| It's sadistic. I'd say more, but I've already done that in better threads. |
| Yes. |
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| Illogical, unnecessarily brutal, and useless. Yes, perhaps there's a small amount of people who are in fact irredeemable, but such a thing can't be determined so easily. The death penalty can't be fairly or safely put into practice in such a well-populated society. |
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| I agree with human death. Also: |
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| The death penalty is for monsters only, mass murderers, terrorists, and the worst of political tyrants. What I don't approve of is lethal injection as it can be painful, the firing squad is the best option for them. I also don't approve of the death penalty for drugs in China, Singapore, and Indonesia, they needed life or deportation and to be banned from the country for life. |
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Moog- said: It's a waste of human life. We could've experimented on them and gained insight instead. I like the way you're thinking OT:No I'm against the death penalty. if you execute an innocent person then what's gonna happen paying the compensation wouldn't bring them back but yeah death penalty is okay only for terrorists,pedophiles,serial killers etc. |
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| Against it, not because it's necessarily morally wrong to put someone who's done heinous things to death, but because there's always the chance that you put someone innocent to death. No going back once you do that. |
| For extreme cases, yes. People shouldn't just be killed because of tiny little blunders in life. For things such as mass murder or something of that sort, yes. Be willing to face the consequences if you are willing to commit the crime. |
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Tigervu said: +1, cant be bothered writing the same thingFor extreme cases, yes. People shouldn't just be killed because of tiny little blunders in life. For things such as mass murder or something of that sort, yes. Be willing to face the consequences if you are willing to commit the crime. |
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bigguy said: Against it, not because it's necessarily morally wrong to put someone who's done heinous things to death, but because there's always the chance that you put someone innocent to death. No going back once you do that. ^ Pretty much this. |
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bigguy said: Against it, not because it's necessarily morally wrong to put someone who's done heinous things to death, but because there's always the chance that you put someone innocent to death. No going back once you do that. Same. Some people put on death row are actually innocent. Too risky. |
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