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Dec 20, 2014 9:45 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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But what you are doing is bitching about not having enough fanservice for fanatic VN readers....


No I am bitching about it pretty much being jut fanservice.

This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters and otherwise you can jut be in awe of fights and explosions.

So yeah, from now on I will just recommend people to read the VN before watching this.

UFOFSN so far is adapted on the level of A1's SAO1 - in that unless you have read VN, everything will seem far more shallow than it is.

You heard it hear folks.FSN 2014 is a piece of crap that makes no sense unless if you have the VN guide next to you.

Someone takes bitching about lack of fanservice directed at him a little too far.
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The lack of projection talk is a big problem though. In fact if I remember correctly right before Saber entered the shed Shirou has a small monologue about projection and it looks like they skipped it.
But that deosnt make it a bad adaptation that doesn't make sense.
Dec 20, 2014 9:47 AM

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HentaiPriest said:
CookingPriest said:


No I am bitching about it pretty much being jut fanservice.

This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters and otherwise you can jut be in awe of fights and explosions.

So yeah, from now on I will just recommend people to read the VN before watching this.

UFOFSN so far is adapted on the level of A1's SAO1 - in that unless you have read VN, everything will seem far more shallow than it is.

You heard it hear folks.FSN 2014 is a piece of crap that makes no sense unless if you have the VN guide next to you.

Someone takes bitching about lack of fanservice directed at him a little too far.


Except I did not ay that, please stop trying to bullshit your own words into my mouth.

You take any criticism as personal offense, do you?

What I said is that FSN seems like a typical action show with decent characters unless you have a VN to show you jut how deep and complex it all is.
Dec 20, 2014 9:47 AM

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Don't have this argument in two separate threads you coons.

Take it outside.
Dec 20, 2014 9:51 AM

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CookingPriest said:
HentaiPriest said:

You heard it hear folks.FSN 2014 is a piece of crap that makes no sense unless if you have the VN guide next to you.

Someone takes bitching about lack of fanservice directed at him a little too far.


Except I did not ay that, please stop trying to bullshit your own words into my mouth.

You take any criticism as personal offense, do you?

What I said is that FSN seems like a typical action show with decent characters unless you have a VN to show you jut how deep and complex it all is.
CookingPriest said:
HentaiPriest said:
But what you are doing is bitching about not having enough fanservice for fanatic VN readers....


No I am bitching about it pretty much being jut fanservice.

This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters and otherwise you can jut be in awe of fights and explosions.

So yeah, from now on I will just recommend people to read the VN before watching this.


So all that means that the adaptation is good?Okay....
Dec 20, 2014 9:52 AM

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HentaiPriest said:
CookingPriest said:


Except I did not ay that, please stop trying to bullshit your own words into my mouth.

You take any criticism as personal offense, do you?

What I said is that FSN seems like a typical action show with decent characters unless you have a VN to show you jut how deep and complex it all is.
CookingPriest said:


No I am bitching about it pretty much being jut fanservice.

This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters and otherwise you can jut be in awe of fights and explosions.

So yeah, from now on I will just recommend people to read the VN before watching this.


So all that means that the adaptation is good?Okay....


I already said the adaptation is "just decent". If you were not blinded by fanbias, you would have seen it
Dec 20, 2014 9:54 AM

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Why don't you quote him in the General Discussion thread, instead of this thread?


Rin's skirt looks too short. Big fail, ufotable. I am disappoint.
Dec 20, 2014 9:54 AM

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I think you should look up the definition of the word decent.Decent =/="This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters"

I cant see it because I lack you huge fanbias.
Dec 20, 2014 9:56 AM

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Hmmm I liked Archer's speech at the end.
Dec 20, 2014 9:57 AM

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HentaiPriest said:
I think you should look up the definition of the word decent.Decent =/="This is inaccessible for new viewers. AT all. Exposition has been cut, foreshadowing has been cut, character development has been cut. You pretty much need the VN to interpret the characters"

I cant see it because I lack you huge fanbias.


The depths of FSN's complexity and story and characters ARE inaccessible to the new viewers. It is still a decent show with lots of action.
Dec 20, 2014 9:59 AM

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To be fair, I personally think that saying its a bad adaption is an exaggeration. Its overall a pretty good adaption but it still could have been better.
Dec 20, 2014 10:02 AM

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nocorras said:
Hmmm I liked Archer's speech at the end.


Yup that speech gave me chills
Dec 20, 2014 10:11 AM

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Rin was pretty enjoyable on how she handled herself.

Archer and Shirou's tension. I like seeing the magic circuits for some reason o.o
Dec 20, 2014 10:11 AM

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Good episode and funny episode.
The discussion between Rin/Shirou was nice.
Archer's speech was good.
Dec 20, 2014 10:19 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
To be fair, I personally think that saying its a bad adaption is an exaggeration. Its overall a pretty good adaption but it still could have been better.


No one is saying it a bad adaptation. It is between good and decent. But way below expectations of what could have been,
Dec 20, 2014 10:20 AM

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Steins;Gate is a good adaptation. This is decent (so far), maybe they make it great in the 2nd half

I still didn't really see any problems with this episode I think the points were made well enough.
Dec 20, 2014 10:20 AM

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Love how subtle they're making Shirou here.
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Dec 20, 2014 10:25 AM

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Riiiiiiin <3
Dec 20, 2014 10:25 AM

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To be an awesome fanservice anime for VN fans, it definitely needs VN music.
To be an awesome stand-alone anime it definitely needs explanations from the Fate route.
Hm, I can no longer understand ufotable's ideals.
Dec 20, 2014 10:30 AM

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Zulkir said:
To be an awesome fanservice anime for VN fans, it definitely needs VN music.
To be an awesome stand-alone anime it definitely needs explanations from the Fate route.
Hm, I can no longer understand ufotable's ideals.


Solution:
Read fate route then wait for that Remix we know is coming XD

Either way I'm certainly enjoying myself.
Dec 20, 2014 10:39 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Zulkir said:
To be an awesome fanservice anime for VN fans, it definitely needs VN music.
To be an awesome stand-alone anime it definitely needs explanations from the Fate route.
Hm, I can no longer understand ufotable's ideals.


Solution:
Read fate route then wait for that Remix we know is coming XD

Either way I'm certainly enjoying myself.


But... but I wanted my Church on the Hill! And some Kienai Omoi, and also piano version of Disillusion, and ... and ...
And needless to say, that I want a good stand-alone F/sn anime to exist.
Dec 20, 2014 10:40 AM

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Rin was super cute this episode.

Unlimited Rin reaction faces.
Oh god who are you people?
Dec 20, 2014 10:42 AM

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notJune said:
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Well, fuck....

Time for disappointing rush-job.
Next episode is an hour long.


Where did you get that from?
Dec 20, 2014 10:43 AM
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Moroplovac said:
notJune said:
Next episode is an hour long.


Where did you get that from?
https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/543403981863518208
Dec 20, 2014 10:46 AM

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woop woop 1 hour ep next week
can't wait for
Dec 20, 2014 10:47 AM

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Dat scared Issei tho.
Neco Taiga was also a plus :3


They should really explain the projection, i may know were it comes from, but newcomers and first-timers don't.


Time to get ready to read through the VN :D
Dec 20, 2014 10:50 AM

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Zulkir said:
WrongPriest said:


Solution:
Read fate route then wait for that Remix we know is coming XD

Either way I'm certainly enjoying myself.


But... but I wanted my Church on the Hill! And some Kienai Omoi, and also piano version of Disillusion, and ... and ...
And needless to say, that I want a good stand-alone F/sn anime to exist.


Won't be getting anything like that unless we have Ufo-Fate/UBW/HF.. and even then it'll be 3, these are realities we must face.

Personally I wish I could here some Church on the Hill and Ever present feeling... but then we wouldn't be getting this new OST XD

Maybe we might still wish for a bit of 'Die Lorelei'?
Dec 20, 2014 10:51 AM

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twas a chill episode
Dec 20, 2014 10:52 AM

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And so Tohsaka makes her nest at Shirou house. He's trapped! :D
It's time for her to strike that dense fucker! We also got to see evil Tohsaka, puuurfectly manipulating Tiger.

Tiger faces always makes me crack me up. She's so childish. Goddamnit Tiger, be a bit more serious! In fact, stay the same forever :3

Shirou is having some body aches. He better solves that problem soon if he don't wanna have a 100$ bill in dishes.

Learned a bit more about Tohsaka background and motivation. I think that being a hedonist is a pretty resonable thing. On the other hand, Shirou obscession for helping others is also a laudable virtue, but it is in direct opposition with Tohsaka morality. To add to that, the two of them are tsundere. Ohhh boy, that's an explosive cocktail.

It's interesting because, us who have played the VN, can pretty much predict where the first season will end. Considering that the next and last episode will be a 45 minutes one, it will end on a good cliffhanger, I can promise you that. It will be a pretty painful wait for anime watcher :)

Here's my album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/JOxuX
Here's my Rin album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/U3Sst
minouneetzoeDec 20, 2014 11:11 AM
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Dec 20, 2014 10:53 AM

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What a boring episode! BOOOO!

lol jks, that episode was actually pretty fun.
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Dec 20, 2014 10:54 AM

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Shirou opens door, sees Tohsaka and then closes it. Priceless.
Missing the times of Rewrite, good times.
Dec 20, 2014 10:55 AM
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Really liked this episode, though I have to nitpick at Saber being as responsive as a potato during Shirou & Archer's exchange. They had a great opportunity there to do something for her character which has been pretty much nonexistent in the past 12 or so episodes.
Dec 20, 2014 10:57 AM

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Hyack said:


I loved this moment. XD
Dec 20, 2014 10:57 AM

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notJune said:
Really liked this episode, though I have to nitpick at Saber being as responsive as a potato during Shirou & Archer's exchange. They had a great opportunity there to do something for her character which has been pretty much nonexistent in the past 12 or so episodes.


I think she was a little too interested in the man touching before hand :D
Dec 20, 2014 10:59 AM

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WrongPriest said:
notJune said:
Really liked this episode, though I have to nitpick at Saber being as responsive as a potato during Shirou & Archer's exchange. They had a great opportunity there to do something for her character which has been pretty much nonexistent in the past 12 or so episodes.


I think she was a little too interested in the man touching before hand :D

she was interested in Kerry, fellow Rider-avi-user.
Dec 20, 2014 11:00 AM

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notJune said:
Really liked this episode, though I have to nitpick at Saber being as responsive as a potato during Shirou & Archer's exchange. They had a great opportunity there to do something for her character which has been pretty much nonexistent in the past 12 or so episodes.


lol just 12? I'd say at least 30
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Dec 20, 2014 11:05 AM

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That face rin made when Shirou said "I don't remember agreeing to regular check-ins"

Dec 20, 2014 11:10 AM

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I actually really liked this episode. Can't believe that we only have 45 minutes left until the long, cold wait. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
Dec 20, 2014 11:12 AM

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ANGRY2011 said:
I actually really liked this episode. Can't believe that we only have 45 minutes left until the long, cold wait. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.


Don't.. just don't remind me.

Been rereading through what's happening after the wait.. Ugghh. Just freeze me nao.
Dec 20, 2014 11:12 AM

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minouneetzoe said:
And so Tohsaka makes her nest at Shirou house. He's trapped! :D
It's time for her to strike that dense fucker! We also got to see evil Tohsaka, puuurfectly manipulating Tiger.

Tiger faces always makes me crack me up. She's so childish. Goddamnit Tiger, be a bit more serious! In fact, stay the same forever :3

Shirou is having some body aches. He better solves that problem soon if he don't wanna have a 100$ bill in dishes.

Learned a bit more about Tohsaka background and motivation. I think that being a hedonist is a pretty resonable thing. On the other hand, Shirou obscession for helping others is also a laudable virtue, but it is in direct opposition with Tohsaka morality. To add to that, the two of them are tsundere. Ohhh boy, that's an explosive cocktail.

It's interesting because, us who have played the VN, can pretty much predict where the first season will end. Considering that the next and last episode will be a 45 minutes one, it will end on a good cliffhanger, I can promise you that. It will be a pretty painful wait for anime watcher :)

Here's my album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/JOxuX
Here's my Rin album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/U3Sst


I seriously always look forward to your Rin album updates lol
Dec 20, 2014 11:15 AM
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ANGRY2011 said:
I actually really liked this episode. Can't believe that we only have 45 minutes left until the long, cold wait. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
At least come late March you can rewatch the first cour as it was intended to be seen.
Dec 20, 2014 11:15 AM

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Shirou too moe. The tsun is crazy


Dec 20, 2014 11:18 AM
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CookingPriest said:
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Your nitpicking is hilarious, just play the VN again if you're that bothered.


Yes, expecting a decent adaptation is nitpicking. Suure.
I'm not sure whether or not to take you seriously anymore
Dec 20, 2014 11:18 AM

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Fai wasn't having fun so now none of us should be having fun.


Dec 20, 2014 11:20 AM
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Tokoya said:
CookingPriest said:


Yes, expecting a decent adaptation is nitpicking. Suure.
I'm not sure whether or not to take you seriously anymore
I'd say besides the need for additional infodumping his criticisms are spot on, I myself have issues with Shirou's representation in this adaptation and can only imagine how he's being handled will bite Ufo's behind come animating "Answer".
Dec 20, 2014 11:21 AM

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I personally thought this episode was great. Shirou's monologues still cut, but I think by now I can accept that while it would be better if they were there, this anime is still good without them. VN is there for 100% depth.

I think that Rin's talk with Shirou, and Archer's talk with Shirou WERE both weaker than in the VN, but they weren't HORRIBLE.

Archer's talk with Shirou was still pretty strong I think, and it was my favorite part of the episode for sure.
Dec 20, 2014 11:22 AM

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that talk with archer gar/10. was this really suppose to be the worst eps. the worst eps so far to me was eps 2
Dec 20, 2014 11:22 AM
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Great episode yet again
They skipped Rin's explanation on why Shirou's left side is numb but that's okay.
Next episode is gonna be one hell of a cliffhanger.
Dec 20, 2014 11:24 AM
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Also next episode we're getting an anime original scene involving Kotomanly.
Dec 20, 2014 11:25 AM

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notJune said:
Also next episode we're getting an anime original scene involving Kotomanly.
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notJune said:
Also next episode we're getting an anime original scene involving Kotomanly.

Huge Spoiler.
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