Psycho-Pass 2 Episode 5 Discussion

Celondor said:
tbh this was the only thing that really bugged me in this episode. Yes, Kagari played with a handheld console in PP 1, BUT he also owns a lot of pin-ball machines and video arcade machines an is a known lover of old games, so it makes sense. But lots of people playing the same shitty mobile games A HUNDRED YEARS IN THE FUTURE? AT HOME (on top)? Like... REALLY? Is this show kidding me? A hundred years ago, we didn't even HAVE computers we could play with and look where we stand now. And they're seriously trying to tell us that in the same amount of time nothing will change?

They should _AT LEAST_ have something like "VR to go". :/

The_Bif said:
While I must admit that these last two episodes have been much better than the first three, I am still losing my battle of trying to like this season.

The writing is lazy, and most of the cast are 2D cardboard cut-outs that fail to invoke any kind of feels at all. I'm trying really hard to look past this fact, I really want to be able to enjoy this season. But, so many "little things" continue to get in my way.

Togane has pictures of Akane in his room, like all over his room, with eyes and mouths circled... Seems like he's profiling her, watching her for Sybil maybe? He's one of the few characters that are being made interesting, actually come to think of it- I think he's the only character that's being made interesting. Akane has been turned into a cardboard cut-out of her previous self from season one, Mika is nothing more than fodder for us viewers to hate, the rest of the cast are nameless, faceless masses.

Kamui is really getting on my nerves now, at least Makashima was a believable villain, but this guy is like a walking dues ex machina. He's a genius hacker, holo programmer, plastic surgeon, pharmacist, and manipulator; that is too much for any one man to be no matter how you try to explain it all away. He's a ghost the system can't detect, but yet the system observes everyone from the moment they are born and even plans their lives for them based on their aptitude tests, so he had to be in the system somewhere- but apparently is good enough to hack Sybil and make himself disappear? Making super over-powered villains like this are how you ruin good plots, but considering the plot is a rehash of season one with a writer nowhere near as skilled...

Someone pointed out in a previous thread that I seem to be nitpicking looking for reasons to dislike this season... I may be, at this point even I can't tell. Maybe I had my hopes up in expecting anything out of this season after season one was such a masterpiece? Maybe it was silly of me to think that after such a great first season, that a second season could actually be any good at all? Wait, no... Actually that seems perfectly reasonable, I mean after season one was so good it's kind of natural to think that a second season will be good too. So, yeah I'm nitpicking this season because it sucks in comparison; because I would love to be able to enjoy this season, but so far there is very little for me to enjoy and I'm still watching because I'm hoping something will happen to drag me into it and make me enjoy it again.

After working for so many years as both a fiction writer and doing critique for other fiction writers, it's a habit to nitpick these things when the writing is so shoddy that I can find only a couple tiny things to keep me interested.

Okay, I've rambled and for the most part you can ignore most of what I've said here because I'm just ranting after that comment from a previous episode discussion that I'm looking for reasons to dislike this season. Sorry.

springtimerockz said:

This is seriously the FIRST time I've hated a character so much, that I had to find a freaking place to create an account and rage about the stupidity and annoying-ness of a character.
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Mika, what the EF is your problem. You hypocritical lying face, with no dignity at all what so ever. She is the definition of USELESS. In the last episode she was USELESS dirt. Goodness, when Sybil said "she's going to be eaten alive," I was soooooooooooooo pleased. She's in love with Yayoi, you can just SEE IT HER FACE, yet she goes on about how fucking dangerous "enforcers" are. Yet here she is chilling in the room of one, and receiving comfort from Yayoi. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELF, AND ALL THEM HOLES THAT MAKE YOU FAIL AS AN INSPECTOR. How DA F did you even manage to pass the test and become a effing inspector. UGH.

So, that was my rage. However this episode, DESPITE her ignorance and stupidity, and how she THINKS Akane needs "mental care" because of her "interactions with enforcers" (you lying bitch, you were all lovely dovey with Yayoi, which btw Yayoi has someone she's in a relationship with you butt face) finding that stuff in the enforcer's room was legit. Sooooo, I deem you a .0000001% better than DIRT.

I CAN NOT WAIT, until you become an enforcer yourself, or get killed. Man, you neeed to die SOON. HOWEVER ONLY after your 1*10^-10000% usefulness is used up (yess keep digging up the past and then die please). Aka, you are a useless character that pisses me off. Good job psycho pass for creating the MOST ANNOYING CHARACTER OF ALL TIME. (I'll be realllllly made if she doesn't die, or become an enforcer to see how sybil treats people, goodness I HATE YOU)

zerriet said:

I feel that Kamui may just have many connections, because by that logic, how was Makshima able to devise helmets that can conceal one from being scanned.

Thimolimo said:
5 eps and Kogami still ain't here. Starting to lose hope.

Thimolimo said:
5 eps and Kogami still ain't here. Starting to lose hope.

ThirteenthSoul said:
When the chief was having that one-sided dialogue with the rest of the Sibyl members, she mentioned "that which we have brought to life" or something. What if what she was talking about is actually Sakuya Togane and she just lied about him being a latent criminal? What if he was an android/robot like the chief created by Sibyl to see how Akane Tsunemori would react to him?

Camelia94 said:
This episode was awesome like always...

Shisui's eye is now Kamui's right eye! (seems he knows well about transplanting and all)
From what I understood He turned the game Hungry Chicken into a real game, where drones kills people...He's too smart for my tastes (even predicted that Akane will arrive in the place where people conduct military drone experiments) and that sentence "Game start, MWPSB" gave me chills but at the same time made me excited right away for the next episode ...
That face transplant mask was creepy, so we can suppose that Kamui can change his face (the scar on his face witnesses it I think)

Noticed that Mika is improving and not annoying as before, which is a good signal ahaha (liked the scene with Yayoi)

Really surprising thing is Tougane's room; filled with photos and floppy about Akane (what are his real intentions???)

Waiting for next week!!!

deadoptimist said:
God... Are they even serious? The writing is lame.

The first half of the episode is all talk. And apparently they don't know that you can make talking look spectacular too (like ZnK did, for example). And it's not that thay say many interesting things. I dunno, why this show believes that a character should always state aloud, what's going on. Like when they make that enforcer meet his former colleague, and then Gino says "Hey, he used to work here". Why do we have to hear him stating the obvious? Has it not just been shown? It's just a waste of screentime.

Akane is boring. Yes, she is very stable mentally and she did question her humanity before, but that doesn't mean that she can't have slight hue fluctuations. Also that doesn't mean she can't talk back to Mika - and it's high time she did it, she should do it too, since she is her senior. Why didn't her hue balance change after what she has gone through in the previous season? Her room and habits show obvious degradation, why doesn't she care about her hue?
Mika is stupid and irritating. They try so hard to make viewers hate her. Though I can't understand why the chief didn't try to use her.
There're too many similar-looking characters again. Why do we even need to get to know the third division, if there're already two divisions of underdevelopped characters? The red haired guy has been coding silently for several episodes now, and he is supposed to be in the main cast.
Gino could've been affected by the inspector's death more, especially since they had so much time to show boring stuff. He is an important character, dear to many fans - let him have a bit of time to for himself to grieve.
In short, characterization sucks in this season.
Well, what could I expect from the team, that thinks that "WC?" is a good signature for the main villain...

And then there're plot holes...

Why is Kamui able to use dominators? All dominators are controlled by Sybil, they should've locked down. And I don't know, why she doesn't track them.

And that game... Seriously? What's the point? And it is a multiplayer game... *sigh* Btw, even Makishima had to use help of the Korean hacker, but now this Kamui guy does everything by himself - hacking, surgery, drugging people, everything.

Is Tougane stupid? Why does he keep all this stuff in the open, if he is under investigators' supervision and his place can be checked at any time?

And there're many thing like that. There wasn't many good moments to compensate for all this mess. Action is few and not too impressive, fanservice is not very engaging. I liked Tougane's red eyes, Kamui's hiding place and doctor's investigation at the end. That's all.

Malfegor said:
Man, thats a shitty looking video game.
Isnt this show set a hundred years in the future? Thats some worldbuilding ...


And its a good thing Mika can argue with Akane that they're understaffed at the base, but has enough time to walk around and be suspicious about everyone. Is this girl just going out of her way to antagonize every other character, except for her lesbo crush?