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Aug 20, 2014 7:04 PM

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SamuelLJackson said:
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but this and the other thread about virginity left a strange impression.

Welcome to Casual Discussion, the cancer of MAL.

Why cancer? And what is the core of MAL?
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SamuelLJackson said:
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but this and the other thread about virginity left a strange impression.

Welcome to Casual Discussion, the cancer of MAL.
From what I have seen its not that bad...Go to System Wars on Gamespot like 2 years ago...Absolute warzone
Aug 20, 2014 7:30 PM

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My close group of friends has a couple of guys who are virgins, and no one gives a crap. After reading some of the comments on this thread I'm glad I'm not hanging with a bunch of assholes who actually care about whether someone is a virgin or not.

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OK, I kind of am following where you are going with this. However, I disagree with your snowboarding analogy. Nobody bullies other people on a constant basis for never having been snowboarding. Nobody threatens to end friendships and tell other people not to be friends with you because you've never been snowboarding.
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No one bullies about not snowboarding because it's not a big deal, just like how anyone with a brain cell should know the sex isn't a big deal either [/quote]
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I think being able to deal with all of those immature comments without losing my mind and being pressured into doing something I don't want to do, is something to be proud of.
So in other words, you're proud of being able to cope with being bullied, not the fact that you are a virgin.

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It's them trying to escape the fact that they're going to live a sad lonely life for the rest of it. This form of escapism can lead to very bad things down the road if they suddenly stop lying to themselves and can result in; serial killers, rapists, suicide killings among many other fucked up things. Unfortunately, modern day scientists haven't found a cure for the disease and can only recommend paying for a prostitute to alleviate any symptoms.
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Since sex is so glorified, I suppose the only way I can think of to be a "proud virgin" would be if you were proud for not succumbing to pressure when you aren't ready.

As the OP said though, if you brag about it it's a different story.
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Xasthur said:
SamuelLJackson said:

Welcome to Casual Discussion, the cancer of MAL.

Why cancer? And what is the core of MAL?

Half of casual discussion in a nutshell is about virginity, really personal sex questions, and not having friends.
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SamuelLJackson said:
Xasthur said:

Why cancer? And what is the core of MAL?

Half of casual discussion in a nutshell is about virginity, really personal sex questions, and not having friends.
What else is there to talk about? People have issues that they want to be discussed...I hope this doesn't anger you...your signature is staring me down so I'm trying to pick my next move carefully.
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SamuelLJackson said:
drosselbard said:
but this and the other thread about virginity left a strange impression.

Welcome to Casual Discussion, the pride of MAL.
Fixed.
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Rothion said:
SamuelLJackson said:

Welcome to Casual Discussion, the pride of MAL.
Fixed.
there you go
Aug 20, 2014 8:20 PM
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I'll agree with pride of MAL. Certainly the best part so far.
Aug 20, 2014 8:22 PM

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How many of you have jobs where you meet lots of people? Because if you do you can talk to those who are men and realize just how many of them are paying child support. Or talk to the women and realize just how many of them have deadbeat dads that are trying to get out of child support.

And what about all those movies and tv shows and your own friends that went through drama "I did so much for them and they were just using me".

One of the reasons that I am still a virgin is because I'm pretty much not someone who's generally accepted by the standards of society. AKA a shut-in who spends all his time on anime and video games. Another reason is that I make the smart choices, which generally means I'm no fun to half of society, because I don't take part in parties, and don't do drugs or drink, and have no interest in casual sex.

Beyond that, because of my attention to all these details, my standards may be needlessly high, or maybe they're just right. Because I don't want to deal with someone who looks like bad news, which accounts for over half of the human population it seems. And since I'm a shut in I don't pursue venues where lots of different people frequent (besides my job which does not count), and so I don't exactly meet a lot of people who are looking to get hitched.

To me the alternative looks like forgetting all my morals and ignoring rational judgement to maybe have a good time to have even less of a chance for the relationship to actually amount to anything.

Yeah I've spent my time on useless pursuits (a lot of time), and I've held back when I didn't like people who liked me. It just so happens that in this society "worth a damn" and "single and interested" don't happen to cross over that often, at least where I live. Which contributes the most as to why I'm a virgin.

I'm not proud of my lack of luck in finding a great girl. But I am proud that I've held up to my standards. I consider lowering certain standards every now and then, but ultimately I'm still biding my time. My opportunity may never come, but you know, there are 7 billion people in the world. Humanity isn't going to end if I don't have a kid, and kids are tough work anyways. And besides that, I'm pretty sure porn is much more adventurous than any of our sex lives will ever be.
Aug 20, 2014 8:23 PM

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^ahah

To post completely seriously for once, lol at all the people taking the time to write paragraphs trying to defend themselves in a thread that was CLEARLY bait from the beginning.

Your insecurities are showing, guys.
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Korrvo said:
^ahah

To post completely seriously for once, lol at all the people taking the time to write paragraphs trying to defend themselves in a thread that was CLEARLY bait from the beginning.

Your insecurities are showing, guys.
sush don't spoil the bait
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Korrvo said:
^ahah

To post completely seriously for once, lol at all the people taking the time to write paragraphs trying to defend themselves in a thread that was CLEARLY bait from the beginning.

Your insecurities are showing, guys.

Which is smarter? The fish that eats the bait, avoiding the hook? Or the fisher who brings a lot of bait?
Aug 20, 2014 8:32 PM

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PornSymphony said:
sush don't spoil the bait
I couldn't help myself.

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Which is smarter? The fish that eats the bait, avoiding the hook? Or the fisher who brings a lot of bait?
What's the third option?
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^^^ *Mind Blown*
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Korrvo said:
Thrashinuva said:

Which is smarter? The fish that eats the bait, avoiding the hook? Or the fisher who brings a lot of bait?
What's the third option?

The third option is looking at all the facts, surveying the situation, and making a rational decision based on the information presented to you, instead of guessing.

I'll give you a bit of information for you. Paragraphs aren't hard for me. I write paragraphs and don't even realize how long my post is, because I don't struggle with the English language, or psychology for that matter. Besides that, humans naturally like to present their own side of the story. The fault lies with you for not realizing this. Defending, or accusing, it doesn't have to be either. What is there to defend? What is there to accuse? It's up to each individual to decide, and whether you feel it does or doesn't, your own opinion doesn't actually matter to anyone else.
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Korrvo said:
PornSymphony said:
sush don't spoil the bait
I couldn't help myself.

Thrashinuva said:

Which is smarter? The fish that eats the bait, avoiding the hook? Or the fisher who brings a lot of bait?
What's the third option?


I actually didn't know this was bait. Then again, losing my virginity isn't at stake anymore. :P
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Aug 20, 2014 9:53 PM

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katsucats said:
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20+ virgins club is the way to go then.
Your virginity is clearly on your mind all the time--you're that self-conscious about it--if you're going to claim to have 'pride' in something that takes no effort. If you didn't care about virgin status, you wouldn't be wearing it like a badge. This is like a lazy pothead bragging about being lazy: He might just have fucked up values, but most likely he's just self-conscious and insecure about his laziness, but too fucked up to do something about it. So instead he turns it around to help his fragile ego deal with his predicament.

If you're that desperate for sex, go find it. If you're not desperate, you wouldn't be talking about it. For the third category, this thread is about you and your justifications.


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katsucats said:
I don't know where guyklc lives or really what he's been through, but where I come from (which has a lot of different cultures in the same place) nobody is going to press you on your virginity unless you bring it up. Which sounds like something people do--talk about their virginity unwarranted. Then these people claim that they don't care about their virginity, but they're fucking talking about it.


Of course, the "I'm not a virgin, but I know many virgins and they don't suffer any bullying, so bullying of virgins must not exist" kind of bullcrap.

I live in Southern California (Los Angeles region), for the record, which is very diverse. I'm not sure why that matters, but just throwing that out there.

Here, most people are very accepting of gays and people of different colors. But do you know what will happen if you dare say something like, "Hey, I'm not gay or a person of color, but I'm sure gays and minorities don't face any kinds of major discrimination or bullying"? People will call you a prick. That simple. You don't know it because you're not a virgin at this age. You don't know it because you don't have to live with it every day. No, not everyone you encounter will give you flak for it, but enough people will.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Aug 20, 2014 10:41 PM
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This thread is still going?
I expect to see 100 pages by tomorrow.
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caperock said:
This thread is still going?
I expect to see 100 pages by tomorrow.

Did you expect any less from a thread that is based on the insecurities of a particular kind of people? People thrive on discussing such matters in the CD board.
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SamuelLJackson said:
Xasthur said:

Why cancer? And what is the core of MAL?

Half of casual discussion in a nutshell is about virginity, really personal sex questions, and not having friends.

It's anime site for animefags.
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Aug 20, 2014 11:44 PM
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I don't think you guys are meaning to do it, but talking about people's insecurities like they can't and don't read this thread too probably makes them more insecure.

A little trolling is fine and expected, but we really don't need to make people feel bad for issues they already struggle with. Let's tone down the judgement a bit, please?
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Mashiro-Yuki said:
I don't think you guys are meaning to do it, but talking about people's insecurities like they can't and don't read this thread too probably makes them more insecure
No, I'm meaning to do it.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:06 AM
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I know this is the internet, but I'm sure you care enough about human beings not to rub their issues in their noses. Things like this aren't just harmless fun to pick on. It can really put someone down.

Sorry if I'm a tight ass. This just seems like a topic best left without snarky humor, imho.
Aug 21, 2014 12:09 AM

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Usually.

But being an asshole is pretty fun sometimes too.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:13 AM
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Well, I just wanted to say something, anyway. It's not like I'm trying to pick a fight.
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guyklc said:
katsucats said:
I don't know where guyklc lives or really what he's been through, but where I come from (which has a lot of different cultures in the same place) nobody is going to press you on your virginity unless you bring it up. Which sounds like something people do--talk about their virginity unwarranted. Then these people claim that they don't care about their virginity, but they're fucking talking about it.
Of course, the "I'm not a virgin, but I know many virgins and they don't suffer any bullying, so bullying of virgins must not exist" kind of bullcrap.

I live in Southern California (Los Angeles region), for the record, which is very diverse. I'm not sure why that matters, but just throwing that out there.
I live in Los Angeles too. I know virgins in their 20s. I don't know anyone that stopped being their friends. Bullying of virgins probably does exist, but I'm willing to bet your attitude has something to do with it. Maybe you're unlucky. Nevertheless, it's funny that you would think that I think bullying doesn't exist, when it's probably the other way around. You think some anecdotal experiences justify your attachment. You think that there's a pandemic of virgin bullies, when you probably just had issues in high school. I usually don't like speculating about people, but when you wear it on the sleeve, it invites criticism.

guyklc said:
Here, most people are very accepting of gays and people of different colors. But do you know what will happen if you dare say something like, "Hey, I'm not gay or a person of color, but I'm sure gays and minorities don't face any kinds of major discrimination or bullying"? People will call you a prick. That simple.
Apples and oranges. If I brought that out of nowhere, what would my motive be? Yet this is an online discussion board. If you're not here to discuss shit, then why are you here? If there was a discussion about the treatment of gays, and I said, Hey, it's 2014, gays are pretty much accepted in liberal parts of the country such as metropolitan Los Angeles, people might be inclined to agree. Because they're not self-hating politically correct insecure drones that can't take reasonable comment at face value, they can think for themselves instead of white knighting for gays and minorities for the sake of being safe.

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You don't know it because you're not a virgin at this age. You don't know it because you don't have to live with it every day. No, not everyone you encounter will give you flak for it, but enough people will.
Everyone was a virgin to some age. As far as anyone I know knows, I might be a virgin. Because I don't talk about sexual escapades--most people don't. When you walk into a classroom full of people, you don't ask the other students whether they're a virgin. If you exude awkwardness, edginess, self-consciousness, etc., that might presume you're a virgin, but at that point the problem is no longer your virginity, but your awkward, edgy, self-conscious attitude. Your story doesn't check out.
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Your virginity is clearly on your mind all the time--you're that self-conscious about it--if you're going to claim to have 'pride' in something that takes no effort. If you didn't care about virgin status, you wouldn't be wearing it like a badge. This is like a lazy pothead bragging about being lazy: He might just have fucked up values, but most likely he's just self-conscious and insecure about his laziness, but too fucked up to do something about it. So instead he turns it around to help his fragile ego deal with his predicament.

If you're that desperate for sex, go find it. If you're not desperate, you wouldn't be talking about it. For the third category, this thread is about you and your justifications.


No, no. I quoted the right person. You.
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katsucats said:
guyklc said:
I don't know where guyklc lives or really what he's been through, but where I come from (which has a lot of different cultures in the same place) nobody is going to press you on your virginity unless you bring it up. Which sounds like something people do--talk about their virginity unwarranted. Then these people claim that they don't care about their virginity, but they're fucking talking about it.
Of course, the "I'm not a virgin, but I know many virgins and they don't suffer any bullying, so bullying of virgins must not exist" kind of bullcrap.

Bullies like a reaction, if you didn't give them that then they probably wouldn't be bullying you.

People used to pay me out for watching Naruto in primary school (back when I had only watched Naruto, Bleach, Death Note and Brotherhood) and when I got annoyed they would keep doing it, then when I just realized I didn't give a crap they stopped paying me out about it. Even though that was as a child, adults are still 100% the same in that aspect, or at least people around my age.
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No, no. I quoted the right person. You.


Get your eyes checked D:
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Aug 21, 2014 8:11 AM

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OP What's up with this judgemental thinking?

Most of virgins is well aware of their problems, why people see it otherwise?
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Krunchy said:
OP What's up with this judgemental thinking?

Most of virgins is well aware of their problems, why people see it otherwise?
B-but there's no problem with being a virgin.
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Thread broke?
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Krunchy said:
Thread broke?


No. It's as fixed as MAL will ever be.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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It's incredibly stupid to be proud of something you obviously don't want.
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Markrye said:
It's incredibly stupid to be proud of something you obviously don't want.
Implying that people don't want virginity so they can have their life ruined by some girl getting pregnant...
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katsucats said:

But when you're wrestling with your inner demons over it and lying to yourself, just why??

Shame, peer pressure, insecurities, etc. It's a defence mechanism to try to save as much dignity as possible. Personally, I have things that I consider more that id rather be doing than looking for someone to have sex with. If I'm ever close to feeling bad about, it's when my parents look at me with a knowing smile and say things like 'girls must fighting over you'. I'm like 'sure, mom, all the time' *nervous laugh*.
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There's nothing to say about being a virgin just like there's nothing to say about having sex. Society tries to act like you need to show off what makes you feel good to prove your worth, it's repulsive.
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What's even more pathetic is how we've developed an obsessive culture on sex, to the point where people use it as a status symbol, and try toss their virginity away as soon as they can.

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It's incredibly stupid to be proud of something you obviously don't want.

Not everybody thinks like you. Sex is pointless without love/emotional attachment, especially for a male, since the momentary pleasure it gives is tiny and only lasts for a few seconds. Sex for the sake of sex is just a pathetic way of inflating your own ego.
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all these liars who claim to be virgins are actually fapers who lost their virginity at age of 10 with their own hands... just my opinion though.
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all these liars who claim to be virgins are actually fapers who lost their virginity at age of 10 with their own hands... just my opinion though.
sexual initiation and virginity are two different things
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Rothion said:
Krunchy said:
OP What's up with this judgemental thinking?

Most of virgins is well aware of their problems, why people see it otherwise?
B-but there's no problem with being a virgin.


This.

Oddyeus said:

Not everybody thinks like you. Sex is pointless without love/emotional attachment, especially for a male, since the momentary pleasure it gives is tiny and only lasts for a few seconds. Sex for the sake of sex is just a pathetic way of inflating your own ego.


You got a point here.

The reason why I'm still virgin is that I can't lie on a girl with sweet talk just to have sex and then act like nothing happened.

When I will found I person that I will truly love and desire to make my life with her then I will consider starting a new life, getting married etc. ...

But, sex without love, without taking responsibility, it's just too meaningless because we will be like animals following our own instincts without any moral code or logical thoughts.
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I am a virgin and I'm proud of it. All ya mofos here are filthy undignified non-virgins! stay away from me!!
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Oddyeus said:
What's even more pathetic is how we've developed an obsessive culture on sex, to the point where people use it as a status symbol, and try toss their virginity away as soon as they can.

Markrye said:
It's incredibly stupid to be proud of something you obviously don't want.

Not everybody thinks like you. Sex is pointless without love/emotional attachment, especially for a male, since the momentary pleasure it gives is tiny and only lasts for a few seconds. Sex for the sake of sex is just a pathetic way of inflating your own ego.
wut, males aren't typically seen as the one who wants love/emotional attachment. Even if they don't last as long, it doesn't mean they don't want it more often.

I would say there's an age dynamic going on here. At a young age many males seem to have a higher sex drive than females (hard to study at this point). It makes sense evolutionarily since that's their purpose. Point = impregnate as many and/or as much as possible. Higher sex drive = more intent on having more sex = arguably feels more pleasurable, even if it doesn't last as long. It's only when they get older do they typically see the importance of emotional attachment. As their sex drive calms a bit.
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Oddyeus said:
Sex is pointless without love/emotional attachment, especially for a male, since the momentary pleasure it gives is tiny and only lasts for a few seconds. Sex for the sake of sex is just a pathetic way of inflating your own ego.


this is fucking gold

i bet your mother told you you'd get hairy palms if you masturbated, too
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Cyaegha said:

i bet your mother told you you'd get hairy palms if you masturbated, too


Wat ???? Don't tell me It was a lie ???? Srzly ?
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@Cyaegha

I don't understand what you found so amusing there? It's been my understanding that there's quite a lot of differences between making love and having sex.
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I am a virgin and I'm proud of it. All ya mofos here are filthy undignified non-virgins! stay away from me!!


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