Zeally said: Awakezzz said: The only problem with using EVA as an entry anime to get people into anime in general is that they will use it as a home base comparison to everything else they watch and probably will end up being disappointing with everything they see afterwards. That's assuming that everyone who watches it, reveres it. I personally did not like it. You don't have to like it to see it's influence on other shows. Sure, if it wasn't your kind of thing then it's not like you won't enjoy anything after seeing it, but you can still see parallels and tropes between characters and elements that draw their influence from EVA. |
AwakezzzJun 30, 2014 1:03 PM
Zergneedsfood said: I think this is a problem with almost all anime really, and it just depends on how you branch out. The same could be said for Cowboy Bebop, Ghibli films, Clannad, and various other works where people watched and haven't found anything they liked as much since. Having favorite anime is bound to happen to everyone with all kinds of shows, so in that regard I definitely agree, and certain shows tend to be well regarded and highly liked by lots of people like Cowboy Bebop. My point had more to do with the influence EVA had on the entire anime seen and how much you can relate it to the anime of today. For example, I can say with certainty that the anime that got me "into" anime as a fan, was FLCL. I had seen other shows before here and there but it wasn't until I saw FLCL that I understood how good anime could be and how much you could do with it in terms of expression and creativity. But the thing is I can't look at anime today and really relate a lot that I see back to FLCL. I don't really ever see shows with plots/ characters and themes and go hey, that reminds me a lot of FLCL. But with EVA, I'm constantly watching shows where I can clearly draw references and parallels all over the place because of the influence it had on anime in general. Is it really a good first anime to get people to watch when many characters from shows of today are just carbon copies and characters ripped from EVA? I feel as if it would almost ruin the experience of discovering new shows and characters when you understand that many aren't as original or as new as you would feel otherwise. |
Awakezzz said: Zeally said: That's assuming that everyone who watches it, reveres it. I personally did not like it. You don't have to like it to see it's influence on other shows. Sure, if it wasn't your kind of thing then it's not like you won't enjoy anything after seeing it, but you can still see parallels and tropes between characters and elements that draw their influence from EVA. I still think people are over crediting/ over extrapolating Evangelion. I don't think its influence is as over encompassing as you think it is. Sure it had an impact on the industry namely the psychological anime that came after it (Lain, Text, FLCL, RahXephon, Zegapain, etc), but other than that I think its influences are waning. Surely you jest when you say you see carbon copies of Shinji, Asuka, and Rei everywhere. They just sound like angsty teens with psychological problems to me; if that's your definition of original. There are better executed characters out there even if they are carbon copies out there. It is a natural phenomenon to find references/ parallels in other anime. Carbon footprints are inevitable in any type of medium. I don't see how finding influences from other works should deter people from watching other shows o_O. http://wiki.evageeks.org/Tributes_to_Other_Fiction_in_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion |
zzzeallyJun 30, 2014 1:35 PM
| Wow okay. No to Evangelion, especially for a Western audience in their teens. Even my friends don't want to touch it because they're too shallow to get into deep and confusing as fuck anime. Plus, the animation is outdated and most new fans like nice graphics and pretty things. |
| Everyone is pretty much right. It really depends on the person and their interest. I got in to anime with shows like Dragon Ball because I enjoyed the action, which led me to watch shows like Naruto when it became big here in the U.S, which led me to watch Bleach at the same time, and then AoT came out and I pretty much got hooked from all sorts of anime at that point. But a lot of my friends would probably enjoy anime that is already critically acclaimed and widely accepted. Like every Studio Ghibli film. Especially Spirited Away. Actually all my friends and staff at school as well as my family, have watched Spirited away which attracted them to other Studio Ghibli films. But in my opinion, shonen shows are probably your best bet. They're simple and aren't too complicated or overwhelming to watch. Also someone said they got in to anime by watching Kara no Kyoukai? That's some distinct taste, because I feel like animes like that ARE too overwhelming to streamline people in to watching animes. It's too bizarre and... confusing. |
| I'd recommend Death Note or FMA Brotherhood. |
Zeally said: I still think people are over crediting/ over extrapolating Evangelion. I don't think its influence is as over encompassing as you think it is. Sure it had an impact on the industry namely the psychological anime that came after it (Lain, Text, FLCL, RahXephon, Zegapain, etc), but other than that I think its influences are waning. Surely you jest when you say you see carbon copies of Shinji, Asuka, and Rei everywhere. They just sound like angsty teens with psychological problems to me; if that's your definition of original. There are better executed characters out there even if they are carbon copies out there. It is a natural phenomenon to find references/ parallels in other anime. Carbon footprints are inevitable in any type of medium. I don't see how finding influences from other works should deter people from watching other shows o_O. I'm not saying people shouldn't watch EVA, I would actually recommend it everyone, I just wouldn't recommend it as a first show to a new anime viewer. And of course you are right, references are common in all types of mediums, but understanding those references is what may take away from the viewing experience of a new show. Of course it always doesn't have to work this way, as some references when done correctly can be positive. The turnabout though, is that they often can detract from your enjoyment when something feels "copied" or stolen/taken from something else. It removes the feeling of originality and feels cheap, as it is often is done purposefully in order to draw in viewers. A good example of this I feel is The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya. Don't get me wrong, I loved this show. It's one of my highest rated and the movie was amazing, but to me, Yuki Nagato was literally a carbon copied character of Rei Ayanami in NGE. An emotionless, expressionless, blank slate, inhuman female character who through the efforts and influence of the main character become more emotional and human. If I had never seen NGE before, Yuki might have felt like a new and interesting character and added to my experience for the show, but knowing she was basically Rei implanted into another show detracted from my enjoyment somewhat. Here I dug this up for clarity, and to give a better idea of exactly what I'm talking about. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReiAyanamiExpy So you can see I'm clearly not jesting when I say I see carbon copies everywhere. |
AwakezzzJun 30, 2014 2:13 PM
| Naruto or one of the 'big three', that's how I was introduced to anime. |
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LunaticFringe said: I'd recommend Death Note or FMA Brotherhood. Surely those are the best from starters. I never seen someone watching DN without failing in love with animes. |
| FMA is the best one to start them off with |
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| A hentai. Any hentai. Because what could possibly go wrong. |
| Monster for sure |
| The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth |
| I got people with Elfen lied, AoT and Kill la kill |
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| Boku no Pico |
animundo said: Boku no Pico Wut? |
| SnK , i introduced it to a couple of workmates and they loved it |
FGAU1912 said: Link_of_Hyrule said: Monster for sure right i rcomend seinen and high art shojou ]manga and get shouted down I would actually highly recommend Monster as well but only to an older viewer. For example I would probably recommend it to my friends who are in their twenties as a first anime to watch. Younger people would probably be better off starting with the typical gateway shounen shows like FMA or any of the big 3. |
goldslash said: LunaticFringe said: I'd recommend Death Note or FMA Brotherhood. Surely those are the best from starters. I never seen someone watching DN without falling in love with animes. raises hands guilty :V |
| At this point, probably Attack on Titan. It's short enough so that it's tedious. It's got blockbuster style action sequences. A strong soundtrack and good animation (in most episodes) doesn't hurt it either. Characters are passable, but it's not like getting someone into anime requires well written characters; showing them the potential of anime is how you'd do it, and Attack on Titan demonstrates this pretty well in areas that general entertainment seekers are looking for. |
| Definitely Death Note or Attack on Titan, though it doesn't always guarantee that the person will become more involved with anime. I've met quite a few people who loved Death Note, but never really gave anything else a chance. Popular shounen such as Naruto sprung to mind as soon as I read the topic title, but those are probably way too long to recommend to a beginner. |
Kawaii_Snuffles said: FMA is the best one to start them off with Yeah, FMA or any one of the big 3 although for older friends it may seem childish for the big 3. |
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AzuStar said: Pokemon seriously, it has everything anime ever. 1 dimension characters, 2D characters, Fighting, ShippingRomance, tentaclesFanservice, Plot, slice of life, Overbearing plot episodic adventures, plot-holes, mascot characters Monsters, shonen protagonist, shojo protagonist, conflicting ideals, cool villains, cool rivals, funny villains, lame rivals, GIANT EYES. it got everything. i stand by word unless digimon because Takari 5ever |
| Attack on titan, death note, and fmab. |
| If a teenager than Death Note would work fine. If a person is older or has more of a critical way of thinking Monster should do a better job. |
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| Naruto and Shingeki no kyojin |
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| You know thinking about it again. I would probably recommend Monster to older males and Nana to older females. |
| A few people I know in my highschool got into anime because of Bleach. For people into sports I probably show them something like KnB, Baby Steps, Ace of Diamond, and Haikyuu. Girls I know are into action/fantasy shows so I'd say something like Magi and Black Butler. |
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| SnK or Death Note would seem to be logical choices; oddly enough though, I ended up getting people to watch anime not through those but Steins;Gate and Baccano. Then again, I wasn't trying to convert them to watching anime, I just show them stuff I think is good. |
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hentai_eucli said: If you had to suggest one anime, to a person, that either has no idea what anime is, or they might have heard about them, but have never seen one, What would that anime be? -I would probably make them watch Death note. I think its concept would be enough to make someone want to continue, and watch some other stuff from the medium. -My second choice would probably be SNK just for the reason that it is good enough to make people look into other stuff. Basically what I'm asking, is If you had to get a person into anime, what anime would be your best bet, to make them interested in the medium? Explain why. Depends what genres the person is interested in and whether or not that person likes animation already and I would start that person with dubbed anime. For someone into science fiction I would recommend the first Ghost in the Shell movie, Akira or even Cowboy Bebop.If that person is a fan of ninja or samurai movies I would recommend the Ninja Scroll movie or Samurai Champloo. |
| Death Note and Brotherhood are pretty safe bets. |
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| Cowboy Bebop, Baccano and anything in my list of anime |
| I would not suggest Death Note. Yeah, it is pretty good, but it may too good for an anime newcomer. Some people who watch animes like DN never go on to other anime. |
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AkatsukiWolf said: You got it all wrong. We want to hook a person to anime, not to make filthy fujoshi out of teenage girl.Black Butler. |
 There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.  Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| I'd say Shingeki no Kyojin, Full Metal Alchemist or Death Note. My first anime was Kuroshitsuji. Before that, I was not even remotely interested in anime. |
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| I wasn't really interested in anime for a long time but after forcing myself to watch an episode of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood I'm now addicted Recommendation: http://myanimelist.net/anime/5114/Fullmetal_Alchemist:_Brotherhood |
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