tsudecimo said: His face is drawn better after the golden age arc, or specifically when he gets the white and black hair. That is normal, people get better over the years... and when they release 2 chapters per year. tsudecimo said: Well like I said, arguing about art is something difficult and I can't express myself to my best and not as easy as arguing about characters, plot, themes, etc. I agree with that i just took a look at vagabond and i gotta say the art is great though i still think berserk art is better. maybe because berserk art rich maybe because i think Miura character design is better or maybe simple "preference". in any case i'll have to check vagabond later, i knew about it but i didn't bother to read because i don't like sengoku era too much. |
annie_leonheart said: tsudecimo said: His face is drawn better after the golden age arc, or specifically when he gets the white and black hair. That is normal, people get better over the years... and when they release 2 chapters per year. Yes you are right. Mangaka's art sometimes mature over the years. The same thing with Naruto's earlier art, and now. annie said: I agree with that i just took a look at vagabond and i gotta say the art is great though i still think berserk art is better. maybe because berserk art rich maybe because i think Miura character design is better or maybe simple "preference". in any case i'll have to check vagabond later, i knew about it but i didn't bother to read because i don't like sengoku era too much. Well being rich, depends on the context. You already read Berserk, and can understand the emotions being conveyed through the art due the context of the scenes, but you just checked Vangabond's art without reading it before. I hope you enjoy it. There is also REAL, which has the best emotional depth in art I've ever read imo. Some scenes just broke me to tears, and it's the only manga that had that much of an impact on me, upon reading it. |
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judals said: People might bitch about this but fuck it, I'm calling it: Togashi's art at its best shits on the big 3's art (and probably the rest of WSJ if I cared to read them). And by best I mean when he's not being lazy. Besides, he has no assisstants, how badass is that? hxh art looks pretty generic and mediocre to me. out of the 3 in terms of the big 3, I would pick naruto for having the best art |
keragamming said: judals said: People might bitch about this but fuck it, I'm calling it: Togashi's art at its best shits on the big 3's art (and probably the rest of WSJ if I cared to read them). And by best I mean when he's not being lazy. Besides, he has no assisstants, how badass is that? hxh art looks pretty generic and mediocre to me. out of the 3 in terms of the big 3, I would pick naruto for having the best art Ehh... My reply was kind of a test of something else, someone hasn't posted for 3 hours only to post within a minute a reply that wasn't the person even discussing, it kinda says something. Anyway, no I disagree. If anything, any non-generic naruto design is technically taken off HxH in the first place. You need only look at the war to see how uninspire the designs were. All of them in general are more or less generic bishies. Hashirama, Tobi(Rama), etc. Let us not forget the time when Sasuke looked like a gay gargoyle (as TGWG put it) Only non-stolen designs that impressed me were: Orichimaru, Hidan (only due to badass scythe), Ino (for being super hot), and of course Killer Bee. HxH latest chapter (I think) had some epically detailed spread, not even those OP spreads come close. Besides from detail, Togashi's got hands down the best facial expressions. By far. It really gets the emotion across. That's great execution. Rammot's angry face alone has better an angry face than any othe characters of the aforementioned shows. |
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judals said: People might bitch about this but fuck it, I'm calling it: Togashi's art at its best shits on the big 3's art (and probably the rest of WSJ if I cared to read them). And by best I mean when he's not being lazy. Besides, he has no assisstants, how badass is that? *cough*cough* Hirohiko Araki *cough [spoiler]http://24.media.tumblr.com/8ed0f0f92586f63efd4e47d1c16194c3/tumblr_mls2pn2odE1qc6uooo1_1280.jpg |
onefairyeater said: judals said: People might bitch about this but fuck it, I'm calling it: Togashi's art at its best shits on the big 3's art (and probably the rest of WSJ if I cared to read them). And by best I mean when he's not being lazy. Besides, he has no assisstants, how badass is that? *cough*cough* Hirohiko Araki *cough [spoiler]http://24.media.tumblr.com/8ed0f0f92586f63efd4e47d1c16194c3/tumblr_mls2pn2odE1qc6uooo1_1280.jpg That's Seinen jump you plebian. But yeah Araki has very unique designs that inspired both HxH and OP. (But I still call bullshit on Hisoka looking like Dio/Gio) |
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tsudecimo said: Togashi's art is still overall pretty mediocre imo. Keten said: [/spoiler]I didn't read any of these chapters, except for the dragon one I think, which is impressive. When I say ugly I mean these, and particularly the faces of the characters (how they sometimes not wide enough vertically if that makes sense) it more apparent in the earlier volumes. His face is drawn better after the golden age arc, or specifically when he gets the white and black hair. The art just doesn't appeal me, I get that some things are drawn and meant to be ugly (like those sick creatures), but I view the normal things as ugly too, and athletically unpleasing. Case in point, Griffth, who is supposed to be beautiful, but I keep wondering how with how that face, and hair is drawn, a good comparison here is Sasaki from Vagabond, who is also supposed to be a beautiful man, with a boyish look, and that is indeed what I think of him, when I see him. The lines, the excessive use of black or ''gritty'' as you put it, I just find it ugly. Well I meant in both cases, but I supposes, it's more apparent when compared to Inoue. Inoue's art is just beautifully drawn, it's something that I really get drawn into, and get lose in it, staring. And carefully paying attention to every detail of the art. I don't get that with Berserk because I'm only interested in the story and characters, and the art if anything just bothers me sometimes, not enough for me to consider it a flaw, but I still don't see how it's gorgeous, and deserving of the praise, aside from a few panels, and pages, like I mentioned earlier. Well like I said, arguing about art is something difficult and I can't express myself to my best and not as easy as arguing about characters, plot, themes, etc. I can agree in some cases actually. Miura's art has evolved over the course of his writing. Honestly though, sometimes the expressions are well done, but the glorious art I was talking about was the landscapes and incredible details of dragons or apostles. I am totally blown away by some of the art. I will agree that sometimes the faces aren't quite expressive, though sometimes even with a simple glance Miura can express complex emotions. (I was looking for a certain image but I cannot find it.) I think I didn't pay much attention to the backgrounds and landscapes. Berserk was like the 30 something manga I read, so I don't remember much, maybe I just missed those great backgrounds you are talking about. The dragon one is pretty cool for example, but I only remembered it, after it was posted in this thread. Well I unfortunately don't know what scene are you talking about. Was it after or before the eclipse?[/quote] Waaay after actually. And about Griffith not looking good, I can see why one would think so in the beginning, but that really can't be argued later on when Miura's art has improved so much. I mean :  If that's not aesthetically pleasing, then I don't know what is. |
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judals said: Never seen a color spread of Togashi's. I do like OP's, but not Naruto's; fan arts are better. Anyone have a site that collects the color pages? I know that One Piece wiki has a page with every one of the CS in high quality but I don't know about one that just has them from any/every series |
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judals said: #noshameSapew has a crush on Griiifith~~~ And about Hisoka, he might not look like he came straight out of Jojo part, but I'd bet my house on the fact that his flamboyance is definitely inspired by Araki's characters. |
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tsudecimo said: Sapewloth said: And about Griffith not looking good, I can see why one would think so in the beginning, but that really can't be argued later on when Miura's art has improved so much. I mean : If that's not aesthetically pleasing, then I don't know what is. He looks like an ugly chick. And I'm being genuine here. Maybe this. Alright, no way we can ever agree on this. Dead link btw. And if that was Sasaki from Vagabond that you linked, I checked him up, and he's straight gorgeous (him too). |
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I can agree in some cases actually. Miura's art has evolved over the course of his writing. Honestly though, sometimes the expressions are well done, but the glorious art I was talking about was the landscapes and incredible details of dragons or apostles. I am totally blown away by some of the art. I will agree that sometimes the faces aren't quite expressive, though sometimes even with a simple glance Miura can express complex emotions. (I was looking for a certain image but I cannot find it.) [/quote] I think I didn't pay much attention to the backgrounds and landscapes. Berserk was like the 30 something manga I read, so I don't remember much, maybe I just missed those great backgrounds you are talking about. The dragon one is pretty cool for example, but I only remembered it, after it was posted in this thread. Well I unfortunately don't know what scene are you talking about. Was it after or before the eclipse?[/quote][/spoiler] It was after the eclipse, quite a bit after, after the whole gang gets together. I wish I could find it... would be a lot easier x_x I can't really convey through words, especially since I don't wanna risk spoiling it for people. lol |
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Sapewloth said: And about Griffith not looking good, I can see why one would think so in the beginning, but that really can't be argued later on when Miura's art has improved so much. I mean : If that's not aesthetically pleasing, then I don't know what is. He looks like an ugly chick. Reminds me of the women in old eras with that hair, like this. Maybe this. Edit: Lol, I thought I deleted that, you quick. |
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Sapewloth said: I think I linked it, Keten. post #211 That is exactly it, thank you so much. xD Also, I do think Griffith is rather attractive looking. Though I guess that depends on taste too. |
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tsudecimo said: Bowel movement. You know like in the first episode when he drank the bad milk and we saw him on the toilet.BM? |
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tesla21 said: tsudecimo said: BM? Bijuu Mode(that's what I call it at least), Naruto's outfit against Pain looked x100 times imo. Oh. Yeah I definitely agree. Sage mode looks better. IntroverTurtle said: tsudecimo said: Bowel movement. You know like in the first episode when he drank the bad milk and we saw him on the toilet.BM?  |
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| BTW the OP mentioned "Pandora hearts"... did he mean the manga? because i watched the anime years ago and it wasn't that good, below average if i have to say. like many other fail adaptions the manga might be different and worth reading |
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| the manga is way better. btw have any of you read Donten ni warau? (it is amazing) |
annie_leonheart said: BTW the OP mentioned "Pandora hearts"... did he mean the manga? because i watched the anime years ago and it wasn't that good, below average if i have to say. like many other fail adaptions the manga might be different and worth reading Probably the manga. It's well regarded compared to the anime. Anime score: 8.07 Manga score: 8.70 Pretty huge difference in reception, in this site, at least. Their score is kinda ironic, the zero and seven are switched lol. |
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paperplane11 said: the manga is way better. btw have any of you read Donten ni warau? (it is amazing) A summary or description would help |
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| It's honestly a bit redundant, since I said some of this already. But, a similar question was asked on Reddit and I figured "why not post my reply from there?" Disclaimer: This is exactly like how I posted it on Reddit, don't really feel like fixing it up to better fit this sites format. Here it is: I think Berserk's Golden Age and Lost Children arcs/chapters are fantastic, so I guess I'll recommend them. However, Golden Age is much better in the manga and Lost Children hasn't been animated. So, yeah, I'll have to recommend the manga version of Berserk. Now, those, along with Chimera Ant are my three favorite story arcs. But, if you don't mind, I'll highlight some great entire series: Legend of the Galactic Heroes is an amazing story about, you guessed it, heroes and those around them. It's a series that is by and large mostly dialogue and there are a lot of politics, which generally isn't something that interests me. Yet, despite that, LoGH is easily one of my greatest anime experiences. I definitely recommend it, though make sure to check out the movies "My Conquest is the Sea of Stars" and "Overture to a New War" before seeing the series. They should be a good litmus test as to whether you'd like the main, 110 episode, OVA series. It's not a storytelling juggernaut like HxH, but check out Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. It's just pure fun, with some very cool battles as it goes along. The first arc, which is the first 9 episodes of the 2012 anime series, is kind of average but the series really picks up by part 2 and, imo, gets more or less better by the parts (there are 8 arcs total, though that 8th one is still on-going and the anime is only up to the currently airing 3rd part). My advice is to not take Jojo too seriously, though. It's absolutely ridiculous, is aware of this, and has a lot of fun with it. Also, part 4 has one of my favorite shounen villains. Other series: Neon Genesis Evangelion, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Monster, Rurouni Kenshin Trust and Betrayal, Now and Then Here and There. Forgive me for not elaborating on those later recs, if you want me to I can, I just got lazy and didn't want to have too long a post right now. But, to summarize, Evangelion and Utena both deal in Psychological themes like a good deal of Chimera Ant does. Monster features one of my personal favorite villains/antagonists along side Meruem and a certain guy from Berserk. Trust and Betrayal adapts one of the best parts of Rurouni Kenshin's manga and just absolutely kills it. I would have put it up there as an arc, but it's more of a backstory. Either way, watch it. Though it's definitely encouraged to at least see to the end of the Kyoto arc in the anime to get the full effect. Now and Then similarly puts an optimistic boy into a terrible situation and forces him to mature. Not quite as well done as Chimera Ant, in fact it's my least favorite of my rec's because it has a cartoonish villain and the aforementioned MC isn't all that interesting. The other MC's in the story are pretty solid, though. |
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| ^ -claps- I am always afraid of recommending Legend of the Galactic Heroes, or well, maybe not afraid but hesitant. Since it is very dialogue heavy and many people can be turned off by it. If a person can get past it though, it is certainly the best series I have seen to date. Huge cast (Over 400 characters with around 40 important ones) who for the most part all get some form of development and all get relevance one way or another and act HUMAN, making HUMAN decisions based off their very diverse personalities. The real beauty is in the 2 main roles though. Some can't get past the retro animation either sadly. Ya though, the 2 movies are good at determining if you will like it or not. I think it's really cool how you recommended Jojo after it too, since that is the exact opposite of Galactic Heroes in almost every way. Lol. Both are great. It's so hard to give a synopsis of Galactic Heroes and do it justice though. |
KetenJul 1, 2014 5:55 AM
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