| So MAL~ What do you think about children competing in combat sports. In Thailand for example there are thousands of kids fighting professionally in Muay Thai and they could start as young as 7 years old. Now Thailand may be an anomaly since it has a the sport is strongly ingrained in their culture as well as offering an alternative to many poor kids looking to make money to support themselves and their family. However, it is not unheard off for kids in Western countries to participate in combat sports as well. With very young teens competing in ammy MMA matches and stuff in America. So what are your opinions on it? It it more violent or injury prone than Rugby or football matches that we have problem sending our kids to? Personally I think its OK for the most part especially under western safety rules. They often pad teh shit out of their kids with gear and restricting rules during matches/training. Thailand is a bit more iffy,as its hardcore, no pads or helmets full blown muay thai but as long as the Government doesn't fix up the poverty and stuff the option of being a fighter is always available. ban combat sports, ban kids John Wane Parr <3 |
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| To be honest, the gear doesn't really help that much if you get nailed real good. I did tae kwon do as a child and I knocked out several small children with axe kicks and spinning kicks, as well as being knocked out twice myself, once with a broken jaw through the padded helmet. I also kicked one kid in the face and he nearly died after swallowing his mouth guard. That said, if my kid wanted to do combat sports I'd support it. Shit happens when you play contact sports sometimes, thems the breaks. |
| Hi dan~! :] ontopic: don't like it just wanted to say hi to dan <3 |
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| I don't really think they should. Taking shots to the head, ESPECIALLY at a young age, is never a good thing. I think they should wait till their teens, at least. |
| Why not! So when you say "fite me irl" you can actually back it up! :D Fite me irl nub, i rek u errday dan. In all seriousness, I think combat sports are great. In my point of view anyway, it teaches you how to defend yourself/fend for others when the time calls for it. Rather you have it than not when you need it right? Also, in my experience with combat sports (Kendo, Taekwondo, a little bit of Judo) I learnt a lot about respect and discipline. I see no downsides in learning those traits. I don't think combat sports are any more violent than some full contact sports. I played rugby for two years as a forward, loose-head prop. Props are the guys at the front of a scrum. *spoiler for reference* I've had multiple concussions from tackles and scars from being stepped on by rugby cleats. To measure "violence" But I can't really compare the brutality between Muay Thai and Rugby since I dont have experience in Muay Thai, but as for injuries/violence go? I think they're both relatively the same. So my opinion still stands! Kids need to get their butts kicked more often. ;) So dan, when r u going to fite me nub? |
OurkaJun 7, 2014 8:14 AM
Ourka said: Why not! So when you say "fite me irl" you can actually back it up! :D Fite me irl nub, i rek u errday dan. In all seriousness, I think combat sports are great. In my point of view anyway, it teaches you how to defend yourself/fend for others when the time calls for it. Rather you have it than not when you need it right? Also, in my experience with combat sports (Kendo, Taekwondo, a little bit of Judo) I learnt a lot about respect and discipline. I see no downsides in learning those traits. I don't think combat sports are any more violent than some full contact sports. I played rugby for two years as a forward, loose-head prop. Props are the guys at the front of a scrum. *spoiler for reference* I've had multiple concussions and scars from being stepped on by rugby cleats. But I can't really compare the brutality between Muay Thai and Rugby since I dont have experience in Muay Thai, but as for injuries/violence go? I think they're both relatively the same. So my opinion still stands! Kids need to get their butts kicked more often. ;) Have you ever seen interviews with pro boxers who have taken a few shots to the head too many? Slurring their words, mental incompetence, etc. You need to be VERY careful when it comes to concussions, brain damage, and hits to the head. |
Jenguin said: Have you ever seen interviews with pro boxers who have taken a few shots to the head too many? Slurring their words, mental incompetence, etc. You need to be VERY careful when it comes to concussions, brain damage, and hits to the head. The most damage doesn't come from a single knockout blow though, it's from successive concussive hits which is by far most prevalent in boxing. The padded gloves, the heavy hits, the count. It's all designed for extra brain damage if you have a decent career. |
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Have you ever seen interviews with pro boxers who have taken a few shots to the head too many? Slurring their words, mental incompetence, etc. You need to be VERY careful when it comes to concussions, brain damage, and hits to the head. Oh yeah. We were all warned of the dangers of concussions. Even death. Apparently, the effects of one concussion does not heal over time, therefore, it just makes it worse and worse every time you get one. However, it also depends on the severity of the concussions too. Big difference. A concussion that knocks you out and a concussion that gives you a minor headache are the difference between day and night! |
| I think its great, toughen up kids. Gets them exercise and experience at a young age, you can almost guarantee that if they like it as a child then these exercises and healthy life style will follow them into adult hood. I wish i got the chance to do martial arts as a kid. Hard to dedicate myself to something like that now that i'm older, not enough time with work and life. |
Ourka said: So dan, when r u going to fite me nub? I'll rekt you nub. I swear on me mum! The rates of injury in other non-fighting sports are pretty high. Cheer leading for example has tens of thousands of injuries a year, yet we dont really have a problem sending little girls to practice cheerleading. On the other hand, regardless of how dangerous it is the purpose of chererleading isnt to hit and defeat another person so I can understand where teh stigma comes from :V http://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/AAP-Offers-New-Guidelines-to-Prevent-Cheerleading-Injuries.aspx?nfstatus=401&nftoken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR%3a+No+local+token%22 cabacc2 said: "Its a sport and there are bigger problems. It keeps the kids happy, focused, and away from drugs" thats a way to see it, I guess. 5:00 of the first video. Child abuse - confirmed, no questions to be asked. Like I said earlier, the situation in Thailand is real iffy. The kids often literally fight to support their family or to send their siblings to school. A kid who rises to become a great fighter may raise their family out of poverty for good. Drugs is also a pretty big problem in Thailand, and if the kids arent fighting they often would be involved in gangs or worse, the terrible Thai sex industry :s Lime_ said: Hi dan~! :] ontopic: don't like it just wanted to say hi to dan <3 Hi Lime_ ^^ |
dankickyouJun 7, 2014 8:47 AM
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| I think it's a good thing. I'd like for my future son to grow up into a fighter. |
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Azure719 said: I think it's a good thing. I'd like for my future son to grow up into a fighter. What about a daughter? |
idungoof said: As a rule, women are quite terrible at fighting, or any other kind of physical activity. I'd prefer for her to do girly things like knitting or baking.Azure719 said: I think it's a good thing. I'd like for my future son to grow up into a fighter. What about a daughter? |
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Azure719 said: As a rule, women are quite terrible at fighting, or any other kind of physical activity. I'd prefer for her to do girly things like knitting or baking. I might use that. |
| I don't really mind, I've been doing martial arts since I was young. I think if the person if enjoying them self then there isn't a problem. Like you said Dan, it deficiently sounds more attractive when under "western rules". I guess it's hard to generalise. |
| Hell im still waiting for them to make Battle royale a reality. Think about it get a bunch of shithead kids together and have them kill each other on TV would watch the shit outta that. |
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| I wouldn't mind as long as they have safety gear. |
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| I don't think anything's wrong with kids doing martial arts. If they like it and are not forced into it, that's fine, let them do what they like. You're likely to get injured in most sports anyway. If the kid likes martial arts but you're too scared for his bran, maybe judo or aikido would be best lol. |
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| They could become anime characters |
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| Forcing kids onto it should be forbidden until theyre 10 :/ |
| The only thing that worries me is potential brain damage. Otherwise, I don't really care. Kids think they are an oc anime protagonist anyways so why not let them indulge that fantasy? |
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| As long as it doesn't involve getting possibly crippled for life or spending the rest of your days as a vegetable, then yes sure. |
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cabacc2 said: yeah, I agree. You have to see this whole thing in context, thats for sure. That doesnt change the fact that it is abuse though, but if that abuse is necessary to prevent even greater abuse, then be it I guess... As the first video mentioned: It can be the only "ticket out". Fucked up situation. I'm a bit more optimistic than you are on Thailand. The fighting is not as bad as it sounds, and many of them grow up fine. They fight a whole lot and may have 300 fights throughout their career but they often retire early (often in their late 20s) In Muay thai, they also generally take way more damage to the body than to the head so hopefully it will reduce the chances of brain damage. Plus, all these kids fighting is what leads to Thailand producing so much great fighters for the sport :P But, if Thailand does improve itself economically and socially I expect the percentage of child fighters to go down with it. |
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| Thats pretty crazy but it looks like alot of kids like it and it looks like it helps families. Its violent but the west tolerates sports like Football and cheerleading at young ages which cause alot of life long injuries. |
| I would ask the child " why do you want to do this sport?" And depending on there motives then decide. I don't think it's safe but neither is football or bumper cars. |
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beavis2323 said: i dont care Good to know. |
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KillJoyMafia said: I feel like they will all grow up to become violent people. Most of the people I know who train or compete are usually very nice. I think knowing what youre capable off in fighting is a confidence booster and they dont feel the need to put on some aggressive "fite me irl m8" manly facade. |
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dankickyou said: KillJoyMafia said: I feel like they will all grow up to become violent people. Most of the people I know who train or compete are usually very nice. I think knowing what youre capable off in fighting is a confidence booster and they dont feel the need to put on some aggressive "fite me irl m8" manly facade. i bet he wants to ban combat sports and kids. jokes on him. dan 3 steps ahead |
RandomChampion said: dankickyou said: Most of the people I know who train or compete are usually very nice. I think knowing what youre capable off in fighting is a confidence booster and they dont feel the need to put on some aggressive "fite me irl m8" manly facade. i bet he wants to ban combat sports and kids. jokes on him. dan 3 steps ahead ban days ban jokes |
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dankickyou said: ban days ban jokes ban steps |
| A Unreported World episode on children fighting in Thailand. Interesting docu although they went there with a very Western-centric view of the thing. And I love how to hostess seems shocked at every little thing. :P |
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| Sports is bad especially for kids, doesn't matter if it's combat sports or not |
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Aylaine said: If proper protection is used and the rules are followed accordingly There's only one rule. You don't talk about Fight Club for Toddlers. |
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| If we never had kids fight, there would never be cool vids like this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4elZ_T9Ulo Also, people are too wary of protection nowadays. In the US, most playgrounds are all plastic and safe... doesn't that kinda ruin the idea of fun? To be victorious and be able to laugh in the face of danger! I grew up with a huge wooden tower thing as my playground... what a rush! Anyways, as long as it's not life-threatening, let kids play. |
| I think it's fine as long as they have proper equipment. I mean this thread can go either way, basically Good Equipment + Instructor = Yes Bad Equipment + No Instructor = No |
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Wh1t3 said: I think it's fine as long as they have proper equipment. I mean this thread can go either way, basically Good Equipment + Instructor = Yes Bad Equipment + No Instructor = No Well obviously they would be instructors, coaches, health officials, referees, etc or else it would be a sanction bout but a street fight :P Although I can see why people will feel better with more protective gear for the kids. |
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