No Game No Life Episode 8 Discussion

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I get the time change, but I don't get how the orera / ore / orewa speech have to do with anything about Sora's disappearance... The only thing that changes with the different pronunciations is "I" to "We" right? Or is there some other word play that I do not know of...

May 28, 2014 1:22 PM

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Holy crap that cliffhanger, this has really become my favorite this season.

That was a really impressive episode.

May 28, 2014 1:25 PM

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awilson338 said:
Wait a second... I already had a weird feeling when the camera zoomed in or that ds looking device, showing the date [19th].

From my experiences of watching anime and playing VNs, time always plays a huge role in the plot, a clear example would be Steins'Gate.

If you looked closely to the epilogue after the ED, the phone after Shiro checked her contact list shows that it is the [21st]. What happened on the 20th? Why did she have no memories on that day? To me, it feels like she just slept through the 20th, and something of course happened on that day. I wonder what happened??

edit: think Sora is in a alternative timeline? or the world Shiro is in is actually fake? I mean it is possible that she is trapped in a world simulation 'game' of some sort, seeing the kedonomini race is technological advanced, and maybe when the moment that she escapes is when the game clears... That could explain Sora's disappearance into thin air, because he might have just [logged out].

*Clap, Clap,Clap,...*

We are on the beginning to the way to the truth :D

No really, the question is: what happened at the 20th?

Well this is the second thing the anime does better than the LN ;-) But that is far easier to do if you see it animated than if you can only read it.

May 28, 2014 1:27 PM

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Near end... Tv starts blinking gray and sound distorts.. Me: is my tv dying? D:
Next episode can't come soon enough, i have to know why and how Sora has been erased!

May 28, 2014 1:28 PM

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awilson338 said:
I get the time change, but I don't get how the orera / ore / orewa speech have to do with anything about Sora's disappearance... The only thing that changes with the different pronunciations is "I" to "We" right? Or is there some other word play that I do not know of...

Sora said those 5 things because they were a clue to Shiro for what is coming, so if there was some confusion over a "i" or "we", that would suggest that the 4th statement was the biggest clue and that it hinged on the difference between those two words. But even if there is no ambiguity with that one word, what he said were clues that will have future implications.

Having not read the novels I have no idea how this is going to work out, I have some guesses:

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But right now I don't care if I am right or wrong, this ending was interesting, and I can't wait to see what is going to happen next.

May 28, 2014 1:32 PM

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So, what you are saying is that the line of "... not the heroes of a shonen manga" is crucial to solve this mystery? Does that mean that Shiro shouldn't act like she's the main character even if she's in a pinch?

That means she should be like the opposite of it? Sora wants her to think carefully of her actions...? He is warning her that every action she decides will affect her future...? o_O

May 28, 2014 1:36 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
Not necessarily. Remember that last episode Sora said that Shiro was "the real one", which implied that he did not view himself as being real (rather that the was empty), so in this context, that he specifically said "I am not a Shounen Manga hero" would make a good deal of sense since he is sending the person he does think is a hero into battle.

I will admit that I want this to be true, that this is a clue that will become important later because it would be I think pretty nifty writing, and since I honestly cannot hear it, I made the guess there was some meaning to it. But if you also heard it then that is two strikes against me.

You might be a tad too hung up on one idea... Try thinking a bit outside your box.

DreamingBeats said:
edit: why is Shiro surprised that Sora left? i thought they understood each other, but Shiro has no clue where Sora went..

Note, that Sora also appeared to talk with someone noone saw.
Also, Shiro can't make heads and tails of how Sora thinks in strategy games, because he's always being "sneaky", meaning, that their thinking isn't the same... which has been said several times. (you know, the two of them making the perfect gamer, because they both have the thing the other is weak at).

Also, it might be, that something similar happened to Shiro, that was going on with the elves in their games againts the Eastern Union.

GENUINE SPOILER ALERT!
Hey Caleb, check out Takuan's guess

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May 28, 2014 1:40 PM

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I want time machine.

this is only anime that force me to use f5.

May 28, 2014 1:42 PM

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awilson338 said:
So, what you are saying is that the line of "... not the heroes of a shonen manga" is crucial to solve this mystery? Does that mean that Shiro shouldn't act like she's the main character even if she's in a pinch?

That means she should be like the opposite of it? Sora wants her to think carefully of her actions...? He is warning her that every action she decides will affect her future...? o_O

Well it would have been the difference between "I am not a hero of a shounen manga" and "we are not a hero of a shounen manga".

I had this nice little theory of what will happen to Shiro in the next episode (i.e. related to what game she is playing) for which this difference would have been crucial.

But theories rise and fall on facts, and if he did say orera wa, then my theory just got butchered.

May 28, 2014 1:46 PM

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holy sht this show is definitely my favorite this season!!

May 28, 2014 1:46 PM

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So is this anime one of the rare few that the animation is actually better than the light novels? XD Good job No game no life!

May 28, 2014 1:48 PM

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GreenDrag said:

Caleb8980 said:

GreenDrag said:

Ferax said:
great ep and holy cow that ED
i cant wait a week for the next ep i want the ep now

and i dont want to read the LN i dont want spoilers D:

You can read the Novels up until the end of the second Volume, for that is exactly, where the anime is.

Come on, don't tease him so much xD
I wanted to write the same thing after his first post but thought it would be too mean to do that.

Spoiler for GreenDrag to read:

I'm not teasing him. He seems like a guy, who like food-for-thought, so I'm feeding him with 7-course meals...

May 28, 2014 1:51 PM

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But if that is so, Takuan, what would be the requirement to clear this game? There has to be an ending. In the preview of the next episode, we see that Shiro is running in a corridor... dungeon? Shonen type game right? it has to be a dungeon, and they fight...? That does not sound like a fair game though, so I don't think Shiro is in a Shonen type game.

but we both agree that Shiro is most probably in a virtual simulated world right?

May 28, 2014 1:52 PM

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awilson338 said:
So is this anime one of the rare few that the animation is actually better than the light novels? XD Good job No game no life!

Generally all anime have better animation than novels with static pictures so No Game No Life isn't exactly rare in that regard lol

May 28, 2014 1:53 PM

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Fine, i mean... a better version of retelling the story? I think I worded it right.

May 28, 2014 1:55 PM

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Caleb8980 said:

talk about thinking outside the box... I came up with a good dozen way I could interpret the 'sb', but the word somebody eluded me like the other side of the moon...
Anyways, it's fun seeing people guessing what's going on ^^
Seeing all the ideas, how someone is right (or wrong)... gives me a weird sense of superiority, that I'm honestly a bit ashamed of...

awilson338 said:
Fine, i mean... a better version of retelling the story? I think I worded it right.

I wouldn't say that. The novels have certain bits of world building, that I'm dearly missing, there, Steph is more than just a butt-monkey... well, she's still nothing more than a very, very useful butt-monkey, but still... She doesn't end up being a Wattson.

Rambling aside, the point is, that in my opinion, the anime had to cut a little bit too much, leaving the novels slightly superior, if you want the background to be better polished.

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May 28, 2014 1:57 PM

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awilson338 said:
But if that is so, Takuan, what would be the requirement to clear this game? There has to be an ending. In the preview of the next episode, we see that Shiro is running in a corridor... dungeon? Shonen type game right? it has to be a dungeon, and they fight...? That does not sound like a fair game though, so I don't think Shiro is in a Shonen type game.

but we both agree that Shiro is most probably in a virtual simulated world right?

Most likely, that would explain why the video this episode started to look like jamming. I had originally thought it was an illusion, but VR fits the evidence the show gave better.

As for what the clear is:

May 28, 2014 1:58 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:

awilson338 said:
So is this anime one of the rare few that the animation is actually better than the light novels? XD Good job No game no life!

Generally all anime have better animation than novels with static pictures so No Game No Life isn't exactly rare in that regard lol

Gotta hand it to you, funniest responses I have read in a long while.

May 28, 2014 1:59 PM

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Seeing all the ideas, how someone is right (or wrong)... gives me a weird sense of superiority, that I'm honestly a bit ashamed of...

I have you know that this is why everyone hated Kirito. You.....you..... Beater!!!

May 28, 2014 2:01 PM

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This was better than the last episode. Hell there wasn't even that much fanservice this time around, that's a +1 from me.
Dat cliff hanger though.. I hope the show doesn't make a lame comeback after this. I have a feeling this show might have a terrible ending, noway are 12 episodes going to be enough.
Art is awesome as always :D

May 28, 2014 2:03 PM

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awilson338 said:
Fine, i mean... a better version of retelling the story? I think I worded it right.

Well I wouldn't say better, as e. g. they dropped the ball by excluding the rule concerning about what to do when your gf or wife or whatever bleeds when she loses her virginity (if she does that at all ;-)) as no bloodshed is allowed by Oath #1

But this would be around equal which is already far better than most LN animations.

@GreenDrag xD
well I know that feeling and yes I must admit I feel a bit the same but well I try my best not to succumb to it ^^

May 28, 2014 2:05 PM

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Can I get a spoiler for this? I really enjoy how Sora and Shiro's [Blank] shtick has gone so far and I'd like to know if they're going to go the way of 400 other shounen manga/anime and make them lose just to create dramatic tension... I like seeing how they win, not whether they win or lose.

May 28, 2014 2:18 PM

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They just pulled a Steins;Gate and erased Sora's existence.

May 28, 2014 2:26 PM

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I consider the ending abuse... how am I suppose to wait till next week with all these questions! :(

May 28, 2014 2:36 PM

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Well uh, that went in a completely unexpected way.

Fucking cliffhangers. I hate them so much.

May 28, 2014 2:39 PM

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why did he disapear?
i guess they are going to win this he could not be responsable for all those deaths xD
this episode was low on fanservice btw

this show will not be complete with 12 episodes

May 28, 2014 2:44 PM

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can somebody explain to me like im 5 years old? about the story in this episode?

im super confused about how sora says that its baffling no one ever understand the game and it make him sure "tet the good" feel bored. etc...

May 28, 2014 2:47 PM

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orangpelupa said:
can somebody explain to me like im 5 years old? about the story in this episode?

im super confused about how sora says that its baffling no one ever understand the game and it make him sure "tet the good" feel bored. etc...

To Steph and Jibiriru the "goal" of the games was for the various races to fight each other and defeat the other races. Even the Old Deus had the same mindset when they appeared at the start of episode 5.

That isn't what Tet had in mind.

Sora and Shiro get it, it was hinted at during the episode Tet visited them, and the reason why Shiro said "poor Tet" is that no one understood what Tet really wanted.

May 28, 2014 2:56 PM

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ED song..... it scared me
I thought I was going crazy or something

May 28, 2014 2:57 PM

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This episode clearly shows why it is important to watch the opening and ending of an anime everytime.

As for the rest of the episode it was great in cleanly explaining the lead up for the incoming game with the werebeasts. It is probably easier to follow then the LN at the same part but the time constraint means that some of the stuff had to be left from the anime. Well you are always welcomed to read the LNs to get more details about Disboard and its people.

Also I am glad to see that Steph is starting to understand some of Blank's though procedure which was hinted by the "The game has already started" part.

Considering that the show now clearly stated that Sora has advanced psychological manipulation skills like "Cold Reading"(Google it, it really exists) it answers how can he communicate with other people without problems.

As for those wondering what happened to Sora there are small hints scattered trough the episode:

May 28, 2014 2:58 PM

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thank you takuan, but what tet wants? tet just want for people to start enjoying playing games?

how is it relevant with the crazy talk sora has done with betting Dora's panty? O_O

sorry i keep asking things, im really confused.

thanks

Takuan_Soho said:

orangpelupa said:
can somebody explain to me like im 5 years old? about the story in this episode?

im super confused about how sora says that its baffling no one ever understand the game and it make him sure "tet the good" feel bored. etc...

To Steph and Jibiriru the "goal" of the games was for the various races to fight each other and defeat the other races. Even the Old Deus had the same mindset when they appeared at the start of episode 5.

That isn't what Tet had in mind.

Sora and Shiro get it, it was hinted at during the episode Tet visited them, and the reason why Shiro said "poor Tet" is that no one understood what Tet really wanted.

Takuan_Soho said:

orangpelupa said:
can somebody explain to me like im 5 years old? about the story in this episode?

im super confused about how sora says that its baffling no one ever understand the game and it make him sure "tet the good" feel bored. etc...

To Steph and Jibiriru the "goal" of the games was for the various races to fight each other and defeat the other races. Even the Old Deus had the same mindset when they appeared at the start of episode 5.

That isn't what Tet had in mind.

Sora and Shiro get it, it was hinted at during the episode Tet visited them, and the reason why Shiro said "poor Tet" is that no one understood what Tet really wanted.

May 28, 2014 2:58 PM

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LEGOF said:
Shimapan

Everyone thought that the episode they downloaded/streamed was corrupted. So did I.

Right?!

May 28, 2014 3:00 PM

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Ah, I was predicting that to be NEXT arc after the resolution with the warbeasts.

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May 28, 2014 3:04 PM

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orangpelupa said:
tet just want for people to start enjoying playing games?

No, that isn't what he wants. Imagine that you are a god who loves beating people. Tet has won every single game in the world so now he is supreme and no one challenges him. How would that make you feel?

orangpelupa said:
how is it relevant with the crazy talk sora has done with betting Dora's panty? O_O
sorry i keep asking things, im really confused.

Well, my answers are just my opinions and opinions aren't worth much, but I think that the talk of betting panties was entertainment primarily, though if the male warbeast could read minds he would have known that Sora was baiting him. So combination of illustration, misdirection and fansevice. Not a bad combination when you have a lot of stuff to explain.

May 28, 2014 3:08 PM

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My jaw was on the floor at the end, that's for sure. Wait, it's still there...

May 28, 2014 3:09 PM

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This episode... this episode. I havent even the words, man. This is gonna be a llllooooonnnngggg week, isnt it?

May 28, 2014 3:20 PM

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Raycee said:
I have to declare this as the best anime of the season.

Ping Pong would like a word with you my friend....

This episode was like the last episode but worse... FOR ME<<<< AKA MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just build up into to the game beginning which i will say was done quite well the static effect isn't original but it adds good tone n effect to Shiro losing Sora. Which i don't know what you guys are tearing over not that emotional.... since we pretty much all know he be back sooner or later x.x and since i like to make fanboys mad i will rate this a 4/5 LOOK IT AT... A 4/5 COME AT ME BRO

May 28, 2014 3:25 PM

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Cadaverist said:
Can I get a spoiler for this? I really enjoy how Sora and Shiro's [Blank] shtick has gone so far and I'd like to know if they're going to go the way of 400 other shounen manga/anime and make them lose just to create dramatic tension... I like seeing how they win, not whether they win or lose.

Well... you asked for it...
no seriously, this is spoilerific...

Taisho-san said:
Can someone please explain what happened? In the end it became all glitchy, and then Sora was talking to himself, then turned to Shiro, said some meaningful stuff, and disappeared. Shiro then woke up in the bed all by herself, with a day (the 20th) being completely skipped, and nobody remembering Sora except herself. If ANYBODY has ANY idea what happened, please tell me. Put as much spoiling stuff as you want, but this is killing me. I have absolutely no clue what happened and it's just frustrating.

Hard Reset-grade hangover!

Nah, that's what the next episode(s) will be about, so if you don't want to try piecing together stuff, thine questions shalt be answereth in the following week(s).

May 28, 2014 3:29 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

orangpelupa said:
can somebody explain to me like im 5 years old? about the story in this episode?

im super confused about how sora says that its baffling no one ever understand the game and it make him sure "tet the good" feel bored. etc...

To Steph and Jibiriru the "goal" of the games was for the various races to fight each other and defeat the other races. Even the Old Deus had the same mindset when they appeared at the start of episode 5.

That isn't what Tet had in mind.

Sora and Shiro get it, it was hinted at during the episode Tet visited them, and the reason why Shiro said "poor Tet" is that no one understood what Tet really wanted.

Yea. The clue is on the 10 pledges/laws/oaths. Specifically the one that nobody seemed to follow.

May 28, 2014 3:31 PM

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Just when I thought I was a smart-ass who is able to predict and figure out the pattern of this show, I got mindf***ed.

Imanity got a "death sentence", we get 7 torturous days.

And Jibril..."Watashi wa...*Hyouka reference*!....huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue" XD

May 28, 2014 3:36 PM

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FINALLY FAKE END IS HERE!

THIS IS GONNA SOOOO AWESOME!

May 28, 2014 3:37 PM

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This episode is the best so far, the ending was amazing. This anime turns out to be a really good surprise.
One week will be too long, I want to see the next episode right now xD

May 28, 2014 3:38 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

orangpelupa said:
tet just want for people to start enjoying playing games?

No, that isn't what he wants. Imagine that you are a god who loves beating people. Tet has won every single game in the world so now he is supreme and no one challenges him. How would that make you feel?

thank you again :) and takuan and mirailianil, please give me more hint :D

tet is bored right? then... ?

May 28, 2014 3:45 PM

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Hoo lee fuk, I thought it was a problem with my stream.
Nicely done.

May 28, 2014 3:49 PM

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Watashi Kinirarimasu!! Jibril referencing Eru D: Also the DC and Yu gi oh reference lel.

Damn. So epic. So good. I might need to rewatch it tom to fully understand it but damn.

That butchered ending song! Thank you Madhouse.

May 28, 2014 3:50 PM

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what the hell happened ??
why did sora disappear ? and why no one remember him ?
we need to wait until next week >_<

May 28, 2014 3:52 PM

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I'm not reading any of the posts in fear of spoiler from the novel. But I'd just like to say that thanks to this episode I feel "full" and I need to go and digest this episode some and live my life before watching anything else.

May 28, 2014 3:55 PM

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