| Um yes I've checked a few websites for japanese languange course but none had interest me.. I need a website with free service and fun ways to learn it. Drop me some names onegai~ |
sakaMar 18, 2014 11:55 PM
| Tatakai~ |
| fun way... ? |
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| buy a lot of sticky notes and put the japanese names for everything on everything in your room or house. Only refer to the object by its japanese name or no name at all and upon being close to the object make sure to take note of its name and say it. Thats just good for objects but wont teach sentence structure. |
traed said: buy a lot of sticky notes and put the japanese names for everything on everything in your room or house. Only refer to the object by its japanese name or no name at all and upon being close to the object make sure to take note of its name and say it. Thats just good for objects but wont teach sentence structure. Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. |
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TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects as they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english, you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. |
traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english; you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. So you presume by looking at random objects with kanji and kana he has no way of deciphering or knowing whatsoever he will magically learn? Truly the best educator of our times. By the way, you're wrong, feel free to study up on how children learn their native tongue compared to how an adult has to learn a new language, let alone one that is not written in anything remotely similar to their language. And your plan of writing notes is far from what you just described, so you're not even being consistent. |
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TallonKarrde23 said: I meant romaji obviously but your own post is misleading.traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english; you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. So you presume by looking at random objects with kanji and kana he has no way of deciphering or knowing whatsoever he will magically learn? Truly the best educator of our times. By the way, you're wrong, feel free to study up on how children learn their native tongue. |
traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: I meant romaji obviously but your own post is misleading.traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english; you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. So you presume by looking at random objects with kanji and kana he has no way of deciphering or knowing whatsoever he will magically learn? Truly the best educator of our times. By the way, you're wrong, feel free to study up on how children learn their native tongue. If you learn romaji you will never learn Japanese. You are telling him to block himself from learning the language by even suggesting that be done. I'm finished responding to you. If the OP isn't a dipshit he won't listen to a guy who can't even write proper English while talking about how children learn it. |
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| There is a website for having language learning communication. I forgot what it was though. Basically in this case a Japanese person would try to talk to you in English and you try to talk to them i Japanese. Of course they need to be fluent for this to be productive. Heredity said: I know, right? For fuck sake its not rocket science to figure out any number of methods can be combined. Sticky notes is just a workaround for the unlikelihood of them moving to japan just to hear Japanese all the time. Spoken language is more important than written. Babies don't read and write before they speak.then put up the english word, romanji version, and japanese characters. possibly draw arrows to show what means what. goodness - problem solving be hard. Also he made no suggestions for anything better either. |
traedMar 18, 2014 12:13 AM
| I would do as Tallon said. Basic letters > basic talk > kanjis Your vocabulary would expand while you learn kanjis. |
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| Tallon is so enthusiastic about things. He must obviously be willing to teach the OP Japanese himself. xJapaliicious said: Where the fuck did they say that specific order? They just threw a shit fit about one way to do it I mentioned then stormed off furious.I would do as Tallon said. Basic letters > basic talk > kanjis Your vocabulary would expand while you learn kanjis. Although yes, it can be done that way. |
traed said: Tallon is so enthusiastic about things. He must obviously be willing to teach the OP Japanese himself. xJapaliicious said: Where the fuck did they say that specific order? They just threw a shit fit about one way to do it I mentioned then stormed off furious.I would do as Tallon said. Basic letters > basic talk > kanjis Your vocabulary would expand while you learn kanjis. Although yes, it can be done that way. I've gone in detail in many threads in the past about this - however the OP asked for a 'fun' way and I have no fun ways to learn any language, so I have no suggested anything to him or written out my usual wall of text of advice, methods, and links to various helpful sites. I have real ways of learning it, and I'd be glad to help him in that regard (feel free to PM me if you're interested, OP, as your thread is already lost), but it sounds an awful lot like he wants a way to learn that will keep him more interested than the standard and more educational focused way of, well, being educated. That's fine, but I have no experience with that style of learning or teaching a language. So yes, if he wants to go about learning it properly but in the more standard and less 'fun' ways, I'd be glad to help him personally. The best I can do with what he wants though is help him avoid BAD IDEAS that will actually inhibit his ability to learn the language, like yours. |
TallonKarrde23Mar 18, 2014 12:30 AM
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traed said: He didn't meant this order, but learning the basic letters is so far, the most important.Tallon is so enthusiastic about things. He must obviously be willing to teach the OP Japanese himself. xJapaliicious said: Where the fuck did they say that specific order? They just threw a shit fit about one way to do it I mentioned then stormed off furious.I would do as Tallon said. Basic letters > basic talk > kanjis Your vocabulary would expand while you learn kanjis. Although yes, it can be done that way. If you want to learn a language, don't go only for your native language, go for the language that you want to learn. That's one of the reasons that most people can't proper learn languages; not enough environment with the language you are aiming for. |
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| You would have saved a lot of effort if you said that the first time instead of just directing things at me. I doubt the OP would have seen your posts on other places. They likely did not even use the search feature of the site to see if this question was asked before to read up. I did think the same thing about them not being all too serious to step into it deep enough to learn it well if its only through fun methods. Just slowly being able to understand more and more Japanese when hearing Japanese speaking people in public talk presuming no one can understand them, watching anime, and listening to Japanese music as they learn more and more should be "fun" enough. I do not mean this as the learning method but the learing applied. |
TallonKarrde23 said: traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english; you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. So you presume by looking at random objects with kanji and kana he has no way of deciphering or knowing whatsoever he will magically learn? Truly the best educator of our times. By the way, you're wrong, feel free to study up on how children learn their native tongue compared to how an adult has to learn a new language, let alone one that is not written in anything remotely similar to their language. And your plan of writing notes is far from what you just described, so you're not even being consistent. So what's your advice? |
| Tatakai~ |
| Learn hiragana and katakana first. After that, gradually learn vocabulary, kanji, and grammar. One of the more important parts of Japanese grammar is verb and adjective conjugation, so I'd go with that first. Oh, and I have an online quiz for some of that. https://sites.google.com/site/myjapanesequiz/ |
traed said: You would have saved a lot of effort if you said that the first time instead of just directing things at me. I doubt the OP would have seen your posts on other places. They likely did not even use the search feature of the site to see if this question was asked before to read up. I did think the same thing about them not being all too serious to step into it deep enough to learn it well if its only through fun methods. Just slowly being able to understand more and more Japanese when hearing Japanese speaking people in public talk presuming no one can understand them, watching anime, and listening to Japanese music as they learn more and more should be "fun" enough. I do not mean this as the learning method but the learing applied. Thanks for your thought. Maybe I use the wrong word to drop the point. I'm saying that for beginners like me, it's kinda heavy to start with deep and long explanation of the Japanese languange, which I often encounter in many lessons. I'm looking for a guide that stick with the Japanese form only, because most websites use english as the basis for structural sentences learning. If you still don't get my point, I apologize since I'm not an english native. |
| Tatakai~ |
KillerBee721 said: http://www.coscom.co.jp/learnjapanese101/index.html Been taken lessons from my pen pal from here :D PaulyD said: http://www.sakuralive.com/ My browser says this website is a porn site o__o Agnostos said: Learn hiragana and katakana first. After that, gradually learn vocabulary, kanji, and grammar. One of the more important parts of Japanese grammar is verb and adjective conjugation, so I'd go with that first. Oh, and I have an online quiz for some of that. https://sites.google.com/site/myjapanesequiz/ Thanks guys. This is what need, not some debate over "The most Successful Way to Learn Japanese". I know I should've browsed over forums just to see older post with the same questions as mine. My fault. I have no idea people would get so irritated with my'stupid irrational question', because some users in this forum made the situation sounded like that. |
| Tatakai~ |
TallonKarrde23 said: traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: I meant romaji obviously but your own post is misleading.traed said: TallonKarrde23 said: How do you think you learned English in the first place? Presuming if its your first language. By associating words you hear with objects they are spoken about is how people learn. You did not magically know it at birth or took a course on how to learn english; you just learned it.Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. So you presume by looking at random objects with kanji and kana he has no way of deciphering or knowing whatsoever he will magically learn? Truly the best educator of our times. By the way, you're wrong, feel free to study up on how children learn their native tongue. If you learn romaji you will never learn Japanese. You are telling him to block himself from learning the language by even suggesting that be done. I'm finished responding to you. If the OP isn't a dipshit he won't listen to a guy who can't even write proper English while talking about how children learn it. Going all douchebag mode on a trivial post. |
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| 1 Learn Hiragana, plenty of places you can do that. 2 Learn some essential grammar and vocab. 3 Learn Katakana whenever you feel like it and learn some Kanji. I used Guide to Japanese for the second part. It's a bit text heavy, but quite easy to follow. You may also like japaneselevelup. Even if you don't want to use their method there's quite a bit of useful tips on there. And most importantly watch anime, play games, etc. etc. the more you get in touch with it, the easier it becomes. |
| It doesn't have Japanese currently (maybe it'll get it in the future) but Duolingo's a really good language learning site. |
| Here are some free beginner courses: http://www.hesjapanese.com/ http://www.gpb.org/irasshai/japanese-i You can learn Katakana and Hiragana here: http://www.japanese-lesson.com/index.html http://japaneseclass.jp/ And these websites have links to other Japanese learning sites: https://sites.google.com/site/soyouwanttolearnalanguage/japanese http://gakuu.com/resources/ http://nihongo-e-na.com/eng/ |
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TallonKarrde23 said: traed said: buy a lot of sticky notes and put the japanese names for everything on everything in your room or house. Only refer to the object by its japanese name or no name at all and upon being close to the object make sure to take note of its name and say it. Thats just good for objects but wont teach sentence structure. Yes, that'll surely teach him how to read the words he's written in characters he doesn't know. Great plan. If you're implying to write anything in romaji then don't ever give anyone advice ever again on anything in your life. That's a really useless way of learning vocabulary for ANY language, but literally completely useless for one that isn't written in the roman alphabet. To be fair its a good plan but it misses out the step about pronunciation, and form and the learning bit etc. that bit more comes in after you have already started to learn... |
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