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| I get amused everytime I see how people tend to analyze every graphical/explicit detail but refuse to reach out to the meanings behind it, even though that meaning was the whole point of the show. This show is open to so many interpretations and as a final "trial" of Gantz we have here people crying that the director used blue instead of black. The way I saw it, this show could as well be a pretty straight irony towards religion and god and the way people let themselves be controled out of fear of unknown. If Gantz is god, doing the final jundgement for dead people, giving them a way to redeem themselves, it's pretty obvious. But who passes further judgement to Gantz himself? who says god is right? by what criteria? Kei was the biggest hypocrite of them all, preaching to others (the old lady imo) what he couldnt do himself. Its funny how people can hate his character though. He's had a very steady positive evolution and every trial seemed to had brought up something good in him, so that in the end Kei finds the answer himself, without being given any hint and without the help of anyone else as he was left alone. It was really heartwarming ending, regardless of the manga, the anime made a lot of sense. Actually the most interesting thing to notice was that in the end "god" didn't win. Because Gantz had no meaning behind him, behind his evil deeds. Whether Kei lives or not really has no importance. He was dead already, remember? But he found his way. |
MorridineSep 25, 2012 9:07 AM
| A to big of an open ending like thought they really fucked us over! Wasn't all to bad the whole Anime but could have been A LOT better! Still not bad 7/10 |
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| Well the whole series was extremely depressing but the ending was really happy :D..So I love it... Surely a 9/10 :P it's just I wasn't so fond of the animation |
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| Well, the first half was fine, but the ending...what the hell? This season was really good in my opinion, I can't believe they didn't manage to wrap things up decent. |
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happyrobcafe said: Throwing out my two-cents of interpretation: Gantz is a psychological show that seeks to explore the idea of redemption before death. The ending scene of the anime (different from how the manga progresses) I think takes the anime in a very different direction. I still think redemption has nothing to do with this show. There is no kind of god or whatever in Gantz that would somehow reward your so called redemption, so I odubt we can talk about redemption if there is no entity to redeem you. The main idea revolves around the entity deciding your "fate" and the power of individuals to change that which is basically the opposite of redemption... you redeem yourself after you've committed some sort of sin but this concept has meaning only if you relate it to a god that is considered ideally good. It's really not the case of that Gantz dude ANother argument in my favor would relate to the way the show started. It was Kei not being able to decide what to do, which side to pick... to help or not to help the guy falling in front of the subway? Kai trouble with decisions was changed by Gantz who decided "for" him, for everyone. |
MorridineJul 27, 2013 7:04 PM
| As some people wrote, there is a lot of psychological, philosphical etc. stuff in it. But that all isn't worth much if it isn't executed right, especially with regard to the medium used. People hesitating to shoot when people are in danger, after being gung-ho a moment before for nothing. The "good" guys always waiting until the enemy is out of danger or at least prepared to dodge, even when they are portraited as being determined to kill. There are simple too many inconsistencies, especially with the suit. Like, Kato's suit is broken after he wrestled the first alien. Later on they do stuff like that again and again and again. The girl in the last team being in pain from the draperie whip and later again when Hajime slap here with a stick or whatever. Since when is a human without using the suits power stronger then an alien? The suit is shown to completely shield the user from harm by falling several floors, getting kicked by an experienced Karateka and fire, and severly limiting the effect of being punched by an alien that has at least as much strength as the suit when wrestling. But it does nothing when being whipped with draperies and sticks, even when the material alone, without any special powers, should be enough to stop it. Gantz suddenly being able to do halluciations..well, it might simply have chosen not do so earlier, but when it's not portraited as being able to do so earlier it's simple a "deus ex machina" move, no matter how appropriate the actual term may be for Gantz itself. On top of that the whole story is written in a way to make sure you don't like it. Everyone is fucking up all the time without a reason, and everytime someone finally can stand on his own, he messes up big time and gets everyone killed a moment later. There are other shows that feature heavy psycholigcal and philosophical things. Take Evangelion. Even with every character having a major personality disorder and half the cast being only 14, the actions are more coherent and have less inconsistencies. Or take Elfen Lied, sudden personaility changes on a moments notice, but still more comprehensible. Gantz has it's upsides, like, not having the usual "pervert" scream/accusation whenever a girl feels like doing so being useful, even though it would never have been more appropriate. Kishimoto loved Kato, but that didn't mean she was oblivous to Kei, she saw the strong sides in both, and a bit of of the weak. A lot of things were refreshingly unconvential, butoverall it's like someone had this really nice idea, but had no idea what do with it. I don't know if the manga has the same problems or if they failed at adapting it, but there are just too many things that could have been done better without even affecting the overall story (which on it's own has things that could have been done better). |
| What a troll ending. Apart from that the series were nice although I don't know why all of this happened and who is Gantz. |
| I'm going to look at this more literally as I think people are overlooking major aspects of the show through interpreting things too much. I do think Gantz has become very cynical and twisted with how beings are treating each other, but ultimately its job is to officiate the huntings of aliens. I think Gantz was really angered when Kei tried shooting at it, and instead of killing him instantly decided to punish him. This leads up to the subway station ending. The scene was all an illusion in that place and it could've served for a number of reasons. Kei went onto the subway line to protest that trying to get to 100 points in his situation was pretty much impossible now (what can I do on my own?), and that he was trying really hard with for example carrying that woman (whether he knew she was dead or not is irrelevant to this). I'm guessing the "I won't die" line was false bravado given that his suit had broken, and instead he was relying on Gantz being merciful. From here it's a perfect open ending. That last shot of the subway going past is mostly likely from a "normal domain" perspective where the aliens and the "contestents" are invisible. Gantz could've forgave him by realising that the game was indeed too hard to play, and declared that he won either the round or the entire game; or Kei was killed. I think the Gantz ball dissapearing just means that it was finished for the round as at the start of the series it appeared in the same way. |
| Even if it didn't really feel like two different seasons since I watched the series all at once, I liked the first one better. At least back then, the hesitance and general stupidity of the characters was somewhat understandable considering how they weren't used to it. The whole filler arc was a mess, throwing the established rules out the window and leaving a ton of unanswered questions. I like the concept and Kurono as a character though so I'll probably check out the manga. It's weird rating this since I disliked pretty much every character besides Kurono, the ending was unsatisfying and the show often had me practically yelling at my tv. On the other hand, the gore, profanity and the fact that no one was ever really safe made for a fun watch. Season 1= 8 Season 2= 7 |
PreFuturism-0 said: I'm going to look at this more literally as I think people are overlooking major aspects of the show through interpreting things too much. I do think Gantz has become very cynical and twisted with how beings are treating each other, but ultimately its job is to officiate the huntings of aliens. I think Gantz was really angered when Kei tried shooting at it, and instead of killing him instantly decided to punish him. This leads up to the subway station ending. The scene was all an illusion in that place and it could've served for a number of reasons. Kei went onto the subway line to protest that trying to get to 100 points in his situation was pretty much impossible now (what can I do on my own?), and that he was trying really hard with for example carrying that woman (whether he knew she was dead or not is irrelevant to this). I'm guessing the "I won't die" line was false bravado given that his suit had broken, and instead he was relying on Gantz being merciful. From here it's a perfect open ending. That last shot of the subway going past is mostly likely from a "normal domain" perspective where the aliens and the "contestents" are invisible. Gantz could've forgave him by realising that the game was indeed too hard to play, and declared that he won either the round or the entire game; or Kei was killed. I think the Gantz ball dissapearing just means that it was finished for the round as at the start of the series it appeared in the same way. absolutely none of this is clear at all and it just speculation |
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| Just finished the series and I got to say. This has to be one of my favorite anime's of all time. The way that everything was connected somehow was brilliant. The character's were fantastic. I quite liked the ending how else would Kei go out if not like a badass 10/10 |
| I just finished and all I can say is "huh?". Honestly I'm sort of lost as to what happened at the end. Gantz disappears and Kei is not on the tracks. I'm lost as to what happened but I would say this series was a surprise to me. It was great except for the characters which I wanted to smack half the time. Since people are saying to read the manga I'm considering it but 384 chapters is a big stretch for me. I may but is it worth it? |
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Mr_Ambivalence said: I just finished and all I can say is "huh?". Honestly I'm sort of lost as to what happened at the end. Gantz disappears and Kei is not on the tracks. I'm lost as to what happened but I would say this series was a surprise to me. It was great except for the characters which I wanted to smack half the time. Since people are saying to read the manga I'm considering it but 384 chapters is a big stretch for me. I may but is it worth it? I'm pretty far from up to date on the manga but from what i have read it's definitely worth it. |
| Man, this ending. At least Kurono beat Gantzat his "game". Where did he send the kid? Where did the aliens go? Did he die in the anime? |
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| Man what a trainwreck. I don't know what has a crappier ending, the anime or the manga. I'm just so glad I got this shitty adaptation over with. |
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| I guess the anime didn't quite reached the popularity they were aiming for so they had to divert everything and just end it. |
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| I was about to give it a 6, but then the beginning of this episode went all melodramatic; then that ending... um wtf? ya so this gets 5/10 (one more than season1) |
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| All lets go and read the manga.... eh so many not finished stories what i think do really start reading manga ( i would like it just the problem is i am slow reader) |
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| The thing i liked about this series was the overall commentary on human nature. Like Mr. Furuta trying to solve conflict without violence even to the very end... and also Hajime for a split second you kind of feel bad for him(given his age as well) but then you realize he has no remorse for the people he has killed or sees anything wrong with it and when he connects it to the conflicts going in Palestine and the middle east you kinda go "oh.. well he does have a point" although i think it could of been written into the plot a bit more fluidly(kinda had a awkward highschool philosophy element to it but iam sure it was done on purpose due to the age of the characters in the scene) i liked the fact it got me to think about what is the difference between those conflicts, the orders gantz sends out and what kajime is doing.... the ending is terrible though, maybe it was too abstract for me to grasp? 7/10 from me |
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lilblackfawn said: just an FYI the entire last game and ending was filler. the manga goes far far longer. the real 4th game Kei had to face a squad of aliens soloThe thing i liked about this series was the overall commentary on human nature. Like Mr. Furuta trying to solve conflict without violence even to the very end... and also Hajime for a split second you kind of feel bad for him(given his age as well) but then you realize he has no remorse for the people he has killed or sees anything wrong with it and when he connects it to the conflicts going in Palestine and the middle east you kinda go "oh.. well he does have a point" although i think it could of been written into the plot a bit more fluidly(kinda had a awkward highschool philosophy element to it but iam sure it was done on purpose due to the age of the characters in the scene) i liked the fact it got me to think about what is the difference between those conflicts, the orders gantz sends out and what kajime is doing.... the ending is terrible though, maybe it was too abstract for me to grasp? 7/10 from me |
Maloghurst said: lilblackfawn said: just an FYI the entire last game and ending was filler. the manga goes far far longer. the real 4th game Kei had to face a squad of aliens soloThe thing i liked about this series was the overall commentary on human nature. Like Mr. Furuta trying to solve conflict without violence even to the very end... and also Hajime for a split second you kind of feel bad for him(given his age as well) but then you realize he has no remorse for the people he has killed or sees anything wrong with it and when he connects it to the conflicts going in Palestine and the middle east you kinda go "oh.. well he does have a point" although i think it could of been written into the plot a bit more fluidly(kinda had a awkward highschool philosophy element to it but iam sure it was done on purpose due to the age of the characters in the scene) i liked the fact it got me to think about what is the difference between those conflicts, the orders gantz sends out and what kajime is doing.... the ending is terrible though, maybe it was too abstract for me to grasp? 7/10 from me looks like ill actually have to read the manga, i usually by-pass that step lol |
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| I think people are looking too much into just the end of the anime. You have to look at it from the idea of the series as a whole. Kei started out as a character who was a high school kid who did not care about anyone else other than himself (thus just putting down everyone else down in his mind). However over time as he saw more and more horrendous acts and deaths happening right in front of him, it changes his character into a more caring person by the end of it. This shows that at the end of the last episode he was trying to save Mika as well as telling Hajima that even though he hated his guts, he still wanted to try to get everyone home showing a caring heart which probably would not have happened with the kind of character Kei was at the beginning of the series where all he cared about was himself and trying to have his "way" with Kishimoto. My theory with the final scenes at the train station to show there are good in people who can change and do good for others without having to be forced to do it (such as what happened at the beginning with Kato practically forcing Kei to save the homeless guy at the train station). Kei was proving to Gantz that even though there's evil in the world, there can also be good to come out as well. Through this act, I believe that is what "earned" him the freedom that was mentioned throughout the series with the "point system" because if you watch the last scene after the credits, the train goes by and there is nothing there... not even blood that would have been splattered all over the walls if it had really hit Kei and Mika. Overall a good ending to bring some closure to an anime series that did not get anymore seasons. These are just thoughts and theories. My belief is that an ending isn't a stand alone scene but the bow that wraps the whole series together :) it can either be wrapped up nicely or it could have holes in it that make it look incomplete or enjoyable. With that being said, to the people out there who think it was bad, do you think it was bad because it wasn't what you wanted or were you unimpressed due to aspects of the show that could have been answered in a better way? Nobody's opinion is wrong but I am curious to see why others believe what they believe :) |
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| terrible ending. It doesn't tell us what happens next |
| Did we really need 10 more minutes of yelling between Kei and the kid. I would've been happy if Kei just shot him and that was it. He goes back and waits until Gantz summons him again. The end. 5/10 |
| I used to dislike the ending but after witnessing ending of manga... Wow this is much better than. Don`t get me wrong, unstill last arc manga was amazing and instant 10/10 material for me, but then. Single word: katastrophe. |
| what an ending, i heard about a movie, maybe i have to read the manga :3 |
Vuyo said: Gantz Brotherhood? Nope. Gantz: After Story |
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| End was ASS. Rest of series was entertaining and unique, even though the standing around not shooting was so fuckin annoying and it had some glaring plot holes. 7/10 |
| The ending was truly disappointing but not if you look at it from a philosophical view. Gantz was giving everyone a second chance at life and this was KEI proving all humans deserve that chance |
| Welp, ending was crap. Still better than first season for me. Action in first half of this season was great. 7/10 Picked up manga right after watching these and it's much better so far. |
| Mika claims she fought back by momentarily strangling him but she still lost. I guess A for effort. Muroto is such an annoying antagonist. I don't know why Kurono didn't just blast his head off. He talks too fucking much. Why did Kurono even jump onto the tracks? Jesus Christ. Also that old lady was used too much in the anime even though she had a small role of asking for directions in the manga and that's it. The first season was better than this to be honest and the first half of the second season. The last leg was terrible as fuck. Annoying characters and everything. I am hoping they will remake it and include all the cool arc like the Osaka arc. One could only hope. The animation, BGM, etc. were average and were, most of the time, a complete disappointment. Disgusting last leg of the Anime, terrible plot. Stick to the manga. |
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| That's the end of Gantz's twisted game! I'm gonna guess everyone has been released from that virtual prison/real life hostage to heaven. WHAT A MOVING ENDING !!!!! |
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| OKKK so no one understands the ending, it's so basic! The ending with Kurono transported to the train station, is Gantz still trying to fuck with Kurono. Kurono bang! at the train shows that the world still has good people (Nozaki, Furuta, Mika, Kato, etc.), he is never on his own, that even if he dies again by the train, he will never lose to Gantz, he will not run anymore, and he can conclude his life was worth living. The Black Ball disappearing indicates Gantz was defeated, Kurono has beaten him, his game of playing with human life is over, and that everyone who died has been released from his database, and Kurono himself, they've all moved on to heaven, finally free. You all gotto remember, Nishi said before that they were all dead already and that there were something out of a Fax machine, well that Fax machine is Gantz All their human information was stored and copied from Gantz and made to play his game. |
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| Shitiest show I have ever watched first time giving 3/10 |
| I mean damn, y'all should just go read the manga. Even if you're not a manga person, if you enjoyed this show even a little at any moment in time, then please marathon the manga. It's worth reading. |
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| ahhaaahhahahha I remember watching las episode years ago and getting this nonsense absurd final episode. |
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