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| He repents for all his sins, and makes the world far better in the process. I don't think there could have been a better ending, really. |
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arcspartan said: NICK595959 said: I think this was the worst ending ever to a great series! I have loved everything about this show until Lelouch decides he wants to give up his life for a better world! come on! he could have stayed zero and fought with Suzaku to make a better world and them Lelouch and Suzaku and Nunnally could finally all be happy!!!! WHY DID LELOUCH HAVE TO DIE!!!!! DAMMIT!!! LOL, trust me, this is one of the happier endings I've seen in anime. I wonder what your reaction would be if you watched Evangelion and Berserk... Oh, wait. Now I know. |
TrisectionJun 12, 2009 8:23 AM
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arcspartan said: Epic.Oh, wait. Now I know.  |
| I started this serie while i allready saw the last ep (was a noob back than and just wanted 2 see how some other anime series looked like). So i wasnt lookin forward 2 watching this series, because i didnt like the ending. But now i have seen all, WOW. It is the perfect ending, cant imagin a bttr one. This is the only series that i have givin a 10 in my list, it is just a EPIC series. When i watched the last ep this time, i couldnt keep myself from crying :S. And the discussion if lelouch is still alive, well everyone has his or hers own opinion ;). |
| I don't care what people say about Code Geass, i think it was a satifying ending for the seres and it finally answer the question of wheather Lelouch was fighting for good of the world or not. |
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| so anyways, glad to see all you guys finish a pretty amazing show. However, why do you think lelouch even died? Sure, he got stabbed by a sword, but was there a way to live? He did desire a "tommorow" did he not? With death, there would be no tommorow. Geass is the power of kings, it gives you the power to fulfill you deepest desire. Then you must ask yourself, what truly is retribution? Was his actions for the world or for himself? How is it all tied together? But let me tell you this |
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NICK595959 said: I think this was the worst ending ever to a great series! I have loved everything about this show until Lelouch decides he wants to give up his life for a better world! come on! he could have stayed zero and fought with Suzaku to make a better world and them Lelouch and Suzaku and Nunnally could finally all be happy!!!! WHY DID LELOUCH HAVE TO DIE!!!!! DAMMIT!!! Actually the ending was amazing and made the series great. Lelouch had to "die" to make the world a better place, he had to take upon all the worlds hate so it could be cast aside along with him. |
Altair718 said: ........I'm speechless. Epic ending is epic. I agree........... |
Winners and Victims stand alone!! |
| Well.. even i know that Lelouch is going to die its still made me cry but i know from the ending when C.C is in that Hay Cart that thing gave me a clue that He is still Alive with her. Well I'm not sure tho. but theirs alot of ppl saying that he is still alive so yeah. Hope for R3 =/ |
| ^ I thought CC was either talking to Lelouch's ghost or most probably talking to herself Please No more R3 it was a perfect ending. Creating R3 would be like milking it a little to far. |
| It was a good ending, it kind of reminded me of Death Note (dying on stairs) but overall I feel satisfied, it was a crazy roller coaster! :D PS: I like to beleive that LULU is alive, finally geting some R and R with CC. |
| i've realised that's it's pretty simple actually: simple minded people=Lelouch is alive/the ending was crap complex minded/philosophers=Lelouch is dead |
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| It's always simple if one choose to be ignorant by grouping stereotypes. |
| of course :3 seriously though, im generalising, there will be people who dont do those do that it's just that usually people dont see that it makes a better ending if he's dead rather than alive (he has to die for his sins) and come up with ridiculous theories about how lelouch escaped death by stealing Charles' Code i have to point out at this time that the code has to be given willingly, not taken by force. the only thing that i could ever think of that supports his non death is the season's name being R2 |
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| That's quite subjective, as mostly everything in entertainment happens to be. There's many ways to repent a sin, and dying is the usual, most common choice. However, people seem to always take the fact that immortality is a benefit, an advantage. Psychologically... that's not really the case. Again, this is another opinionated view. Despite the deus ex machinas and the overwhelming plot twists, Lelouch did happen to also save humanity by defeating Charles, and arguably later, Schneizel. I'm not saying that what he did then could repent his sins for committing massive amount of deaths, but sins aren't all what Lelouch possesses. Anyways, overall, I like CG simply because the ending was just a bit enough to be ambiguous (even if many people, the director included, decided it was not.) |
| hmmm, that is true i suppose i personally took the entire anime (both seasons) as a character build up for lelouch (all the other characters are extra) and to say that he escapes death instead of dying for his (and the world's) sins is taking his role as the tragic hero too lightly. i just find the arguments that people pull out for lelouch being alive to simply be ridiculous (such as 'stealing Charles' code) |
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| A stretch of imagination, if nothing else. However, it could be said the same for all sorts of faith as well. We choose to believe what we want to believe, even if there's absolute truism (if truism even exists) else where. It's degrading that there's immature fanboys and haters abusing a popular title, however, ignorance is bliss, and I choose fully to ignore in this situation, since it's more or less a hopeless cause, especially on the Internet. |
| that is s true, i like how you think :3 'immature fanboys' *cough*TTGL*cough* |
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| To be honest I think its brilliant that they can leave it open ended like that. Id personally like to think he is alive however thats just optimism. They put that last scene in solely for that reason though. Uncertainty is the only thing we have after seeing the man on the wagon with his whole face covered. Incidentally C.C is saying his name loud enough for the driver to hear. Ah. Optimism. :D |
| fcking bastard lelouch!! to think he even planned his own dead!!! omfg make third season and revive him with miarcle !!!! |
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vaikepois said: fcking bastard lelouch!! to think he even planned his own dead!!! omfg make third season and revive him with miarcle !!!! And throw all logic out of the window to pander to the fans. Oh yes. Just like GSD. |
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arcspartan said: vaikepois said: fcking bastard lelouch!! to think he even planned his own dead!!! omfg make third season and revive him with miarcle !!!! And throw all logic out of the window to pander to the fans. Oh yes. Just like GSD. That's no problem, CG already did throw logic out and pandered to fans since episode one. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: arcspartan said: vaikepois said: fcking bastard lelouch!! to think he even planned his own dead!!! omfg make third season and revive him with miarcle !!!! And throw all logic out of the window to pander to the fans. Oh yes. Just like GSD. That's no problem, CG already did throw logic out and pandered to fans since episode one. Whoa.... Quick reply there. All I can say is: I find it interesting that you gave R2 2/10. Could you explain and give reasons as to why you did this? Aside from obvious blatant fanservice of course. |
TrisectionJul 10, 2009 4:59 AM
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| this was such a great anime. I hate because lulu died but oh well, kept me entertained. |
| i would have to point out that the code has to be given willingly, not stolen |
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| im proud of lelouch action .. ZERO REQUIEM ..!! ALL HAIL LELOUCH ..!!!! |
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| He'd be the perfect hero if he died like that , end of story, but ImperialX does have a point there... he could be "dead" to the world and no one's ever gonna see him again as himself but C.C. "In addition, the name "Lelouch vi Britannia" is included in the magazine's final death list. In the November 2008 issue of Newtype magazine, Director Goro Taniguchi left it up to the audience to interpret the series finale and what its epilogue meant." So i can consider a possibility |
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| damn. good ending. The series to me was falling by the wayside about halfway through and near the end though. still 9/10 |
| Too dramatic for my liking. This was probably the worst episode in the two seasons combined. EDIT: hmm, on second watching, it felt better. |
SaptaJul 22, 2009 9:37 AM
ImperialX said: Alright, it seems that the last episodewas pretty complex and out of most of the people I've talked to, a lot of people don't seems to get it. I'm going to tie up all the lose ends with this post. The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere. However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass. When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched her, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code. Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS. Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?" Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead. Whether or not I found myself appreciated the zero sum aspect of the story very impressive. Ever since Lelou found out that Nunnaly was still alive and he proclaimed that everything he did he did for himself, each episode made me more insanely enraged than the last. Lelouch then became a crazed murderer, a "destroyer of worlds" with nothing that could stand between him and his goal. I myself hated him and when I saw the prisoners on the execution cart I knew this was not the same Lelouch as we had met in the first season. The stories in the "tween" episodes with Charles and the revelations that came with him were horrible. It derailed the story, dividing it between defeating his father and the actual domination of Britania - previously I saw them as one and the same - crushing the emperor and destroying the empire itself. By throwing in Lelou's brother as the new villain the show lost some appeal to me. I thought Lelou's father was a perfectly vile character and I wanted to see him broken. It was not the end I expected for him But the ending made me appreciate the story-plot as a whole. From CC's desire for a human friendship, to Euphy's avenged death, Nunnaly got her "future" handed to her on a plater and the world got a hero to idolize forever. It really was a wonderful conclusion |
| wow code greass is the best anime ever i've ever seen... i loved the ending not sure why some ppl hating on it. This is the first anime i've seen taht was really unpredictable. Like you start hating him but that makes the ending that much better, i just feel bad for nunaally :( animerican: i hope your right about possible follow ups :O |
| I loved this series and the ending! It had some weird twists to it, I think. I didn't expect Jeremiah to partner with Lelouch. I just ended up hating Rolo soley because he killed Shirley. I really liked her, and I thought that she and Lelouch had something good going on, but that little asshole had to kill her. I just got really sad when Zero came out of nowhere and stabbed Lelouch, not because Lelouch "died", but because Nunally would be alone. And yes, I don't think Lelouch is dead. I think he's immortal now. He has Charles' Code and C.C.'s Geass, which means he achieved Code Geass. I'm pretty sure this whole thing was explained already in an earlier post. All in all, I really enjoyed this anime. :) |
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| I was glad when I found out there were 2 seasons. this show have been one of the most adicting one's I have seen in a long time. def a powerful 10/10 from me on this show. the scheme,the story the exceptional planning was quite entertaining, even the way the story ends satisfied me to the fullest. |
| CC didn't get her contract fulfilled though. And also has anyone here noticed that they didn't kill Schneizel afterall. a silly ending innit? |
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DarkIceXIII said: I loved this series and the ending! It had some weird twists to it, I think. I didn't expect Jeremiah to partner with Lelouch. I just ended up hating Rolo soley because he killed Shirley. I really liked her, and I thought that she and Lelouch had something good going on, but that little asshole had to kill her. I just got really sad when Zero came out of nowhere and stabbed Lelouch, not because Lelouch "died", but because Nunally would be alone. And yes, I don't think Lelouch is dead. I think he's immortal now. He has Charles' Code and C.C.'s Geass, which means he achieved Code Geass. I'm pretty sure this whole thing was explained already in an earlier post. All in all, I really enjoyed this anime. :) i couldn't agree with you more dood. that anime, really rocks. and that is a good possibilty that lelouche is still alive after all that. and if he is still alive, he'd done a better well-thought-out plan than light did in the end of deathnote. |
| LELOUCH IS NOT DEAD, I REPEAT, HE IS NOT DEAD! HE IS NOW AN IMMORTAL TRAVELLING WITH C.C YESSSSS! |
OverlordRobby said: DarkIceXIII said: I loved this series and the ending! It had some weird twists to it, I think. I didn't expect Jeremiah to partner with Lelouch. I just ended up hating Rolo soley because he killed Shirley. I really liked her, and I thought that she and Lelouch had something good going on, but that little asshole had to kill her. I just got really sad when Zero came out of nowhere and stabbed Lelouch, not because Lelouch "died", but because Nunally would be alone. And yes, I don't think Lelouch is dead. I think he's immortal now. He has Charles' Code and C.C.'s Geass, which means he achieved Code Geass. I'm pretty sure this whole thing was explained already in an earlier post. All in all, I really enjoyed this anime. :) i couldn't agree with you more dood. that anime, really rocks. and that is a good possibilty that lelouche is still alive after all that. and if he is still alive, he'd done a better well-thought-out plan than light did in the end of deathnote. Haha, totally. Light didn't quite think everything through, did he? |
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| I enjoyed this series and I think the ending was good. I have a lots of concepts that subtracts some points, but now I don't have the time to explain it. 8/10 |
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| well overall the series was confusing,i didn't even know what was going on at some points. maybe that's how it was meant to be and i enjoyed it,watched the entire series in 2 days. ending was terrible but i guess it would of never ended if it continued on. |
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| I can't believe I actually cried at the end of this! I didn't really like the series to begin with, but it just got so much better towards the end. Very nice. |
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