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Apr 25, 2015 5:01 PM

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Shrimperor said:
Best Girl + 2nd best Servant


All according to keikaku



My Riding Technique just got upgraded to A++


I want to see Seiba ride Sieg.

I bet her riding skill will increase to EX *smirk*

*waits for Mick-kohai to do his thang*
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Shrimperor said:
All according to keikaku



My Riding Technique just got upgraded to A++

These are AWESOME!
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nocorras said:
I don't expect Rin to win the poll lol. We might have to start a revolution though :/

And I'm fine with Saber being the poster girl btw. I just felt like shit posting while waiting for live reactions.


B-but I'm gonna get bored.

I need to get muh entertainment from somewhere. And Fai is so salty that if I came close to him, I'd get liver cancer. So I have to rely on the rest of the Rinfags D:

Mickdrew said:
Shrimperor said:
All according to keikaku



My Riding Technique just got upgraded to A++

These are AWESOME!


I posted the first in Avalon yesterday(?).

Dammit, Shrimp-chan. MICK IS MINE!!
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nocorras said:
Normally the people pushing for social change start in the minority, and they aren't necessarily 'wrong' or 'salty'. You saying the majority is right is just plain wrong and a logical fallacy anyway, I just felt like calling it out.


Technically, saying that "normally the people pushing for social change start in the minority" is also a logical fallacy. It's called appeal to antiquity. You are saying that "because change happened this way before, it is true in most cases."
There is no way to prove that the majority of the time social change starts with a minority. Change is constantly happening, the only difference is that change that starts with a majority happens so rapidly that it's sometimes not noticeable, while change that starts with a minority takes a lot longer and is more apparent and public because of it's length.

nocorras said:
Caren is 10/10 yes moar

but we can agree with this
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mira-nyan said:


I posted the first in Avalon yesterday(?).

Dammit, Shrimp-chan. MICK IS MINE!!

I got em from reddit.

And you can have him. I don't swing that way :D
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KamiCity said:
nocorras said:
Normally the people pushing for social change start in the minority, and they aren't necessarily 'wrong' or 'salty'. You saying the majority is right is just plain wrong and a logical fallacy anyway, I just felt like calling it out.


Technically, saying that "normally the people pushing for social change start in the minority" is also a logical fallacy. It's called appeal to antiquity. You are saying that "because change happened this way before, it is true in most cases."
There is no way to prove that the majority of the time social change starts with a minority. Change is constantly happening, the only difference is that change that starts with a majority happens so rapidly that it's sometimes not noticeable, while change that starts with a minority takes a lot longer and is more apparent and public because of it's length.


Desu ne?

As a fellow Alice-fag, I commend you :D
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mira-nyan said:
Mickdrew said:

These are AWESOME!


I posted the first in Avalon yesterday(?).

Dammit, Shrimp-chan. MICK IS MINE!!

You did? Oh no I missed it!

Don't worry mira, I'm not going anywhere ;)
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KamiCity said:
nocorras said:
Caren is 10/10 yes moar

but we can agree with this

Rejoice!
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Kotomine Kirie is the best girl.



Serious answer: Rider.
Apr 25, 2015 5:41 PM

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mira-nyan said:
U wot m8?



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Apr 25, 2015 6:09 PM

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BobbyFischer said:
Best grill status


ftfy :D
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Mickdrew said:
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Best grill status


ftfy :D


So your favorite is the punched unconcious type? right........

Anywhere here is some best girl! (Also Mickdrew, that third caren image, the comic, does saber not look a LOT like Yotsuba?)

I'll change this as soon as I think of something clever.
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BobbyFischer said:
mira-nyan said:
U wot m8?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/v7iZPzJ.png[/i mg]

Best grill status


Are you retarded? I've already shown you that she is literally #1 best girl.

At this point, you're just a damaRinfag. *shakes head and shrugs smugly*

I would spam 1800pages worth of Seiba goodness, but I feel like being nice today^

Now, go on. Lemme enjoy your struggle.
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Don't worry, my younger self, it all turned well in the end


Enuma Eli....sh?
Apr 26, 2015 6:02 AM
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Shrimperor said:

Enuma Eli....sh?


Kohaku.... Armed with Ea?

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Dug_Fin said:
Mickdrew said:


ftfy :D


So your favorite is the punched unconcious type? right........

Anywhere here is some best girl! (Also Mickdrew, that third caren image, the comic, does saber not look a LOT like Yotsuba?)

>implying kohaku is not best gril
pls
Apr 26, 2015 7:32 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Shrimperor said:

Enuma Eli....sh?


Kohaku.... Armed with Ea?


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Why are Leysritt and Luvia in this poll, but not Sella...? RIGGED.

But obviously, the best girl is Ayako Ryougi Shiki Rin Illya.
Apr 26, 2015 9:52 AM

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CapsuleCore said:
the best girl is Illya.

*bro-fists*

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Insertanamehere said:
Dug_Fin said:


So your favorite is the punched unconcious type? right........

Anywhere here is some best girl! (Also Mickdrew, that third caren image, the comic, does saber not look a LOT like Yotsuba?)

>implying kohaku is not best gril
pls

Guys I'm new here. Can I please know why everyone here are calling them "grils" ?
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Purposefuly mispelling 'girl' as 'grill' or 'gril' is an internet thing (kindof a meme), not specific to this board at all.

It originates from 4chan iirc
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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AaronMecha said:
Insertanamehere said:

>implying kohaku is not best gril
pls

Guys I'm new here. Can I please know why everyone here are calling them "grils" ?


A dumb way to spell girl
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So, me and Aurioch just had some Ramblings, or as Aurioch likes to call em ''fan-pulled-out-of-our-asses-right-now-fics'', over Skype when i posted something with ''Father... no, Emiya Kiritsugu, I will stop you'', and we decided to Post em over here :D
Before i post them here, i would like to thank k0k0 for correcting alot of mistakes.
Thanks, k0k0^^

My Oneshot



Here's Aurioch's Version.
Note: unlike mine, it takes place during the 5th war, not the 4th.


We hope you guys like em :D

PS: If you couldn't guess, the ''her'' Shirou was talking about it in my version
Big HF Spoiler

Apr 26, 2015 7:25 PM
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Freaking Aron lol

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WrongPriest said:
Freaking Aron lol

dude..i was soo just about to post that....so...cruel....

#Yuetsu.
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Maloghurst said:
WrongPriest said:
Freaking Aron lol

dude..i was soo just about to post that....so...cruel....

#Yuetsu.


Yuetsu indeed. Good stuff.
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Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?
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CapsuleCore said:
Why are Leysritt and Luvia in this poll, but not Sella...? RIGGED.
Because Leysritt > Sella
Since that's undeniable fact, there's no point in putting her in.
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Tsundereppoi said:
Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?


That's because all her development is in the Fate route; in UBW she's shafted aside and her development happens offscreen.
Though, even in scenes where they could show her problems (shed after Shirou projected for first time), they didn't.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
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Illya makes my heart beating fast.
It's like she's made to bear my child.


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Apr 27, 2015 7:34 AM

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fateoffate said:
Illya makes my heart beating fast.
It's like she's made to bear my child.



Get a load of this pedo.
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Tsundereppoi said:
Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?


Seriously when this happens to a rin fan,

And I hope you really mean it.
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fateoffate said:
Illya makes my heart beating fast.
It's like she's made to bear my child.



wat
Apr 27, 2015 8:00 AM

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Tsundereppoi said:
Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?


U W0T M8?

You better be talking about FSN;UBW Anime :l
Cos you clearly haven't read the VN...
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Tsundereppoi said:
Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?


I hope you are talking about UBW
In F/Z she was a great character there was a lot of conflict and interesting conversations between her and Rider, and her and Kiritsugu
one of my favourite female characters actually

Now she has been reduced to a tool and a punching bag I agree
But apparently thats because this isn't her route, honestly though the Fate route doesn't sound that much better a romance between her and Shirou? way to ruin a character

And even though Rin is better (in UBW at least otherwise hell no) and has more screentime she isn't the most complex character either
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FanEu said:
way to ruin a character

Uhh, so the one who made the character ruins it?
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FanEu said:
Tsundereppoi said:
Saber doesn't feel like a character at all.
She appears in the story primarily as a tool for Shirou to win the war.
There is no personal conflict created between her and her environment.
She doesn't seem to suffer throughout the story. She doesn't sacrifice anything either. There is little to no character development. And needless to say her personality is equivalent to my refrigerator. And her entire motive is reduced to some vague desire to redo British history.

I still don't understand why people even bother voting for her. Are blondes really that popular?


I hope you are talking about UBW
In F/Z she was a great character there was a lot of conflict and interesting conversations between her and Rider, and her and Kiritsugu
one of my favourite female characters actually

Now she has been reduced to a tool and a punching bag I agree
But apparently thats because this isn't her route, honestly though the Fate route doesn't sound that much better a romance between her and Shirou? way to ruin a character

And even though Rin is better (in UBW at least otherwise hell no) and has more screentime she isn't the most complex character either


What character? Alex summed it up in one sentence. She's just a little girl hiding behind her facade, trying to be the big man. :I

She was always a tool. That's how she sees herself as. But there's no way you'd know that, if you haven't read Fate route, and therefore haven't fully grasped her character.
Yes, she is a punching bag, but that's becasue
1) The FSN servants are stronger than their Zero counterparts. Except Archer
2) She's nerfed
3) It's not her route. And even in her route, the Berserker fight is...yh, just has a baaahhhd ending.

In FZ, it's like she just gave up after one damned speech. In FSN, it took persuasion, fighting, and a mirror, to get her back on track.

That's way deeper and better than her character in FZ :/
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mira-nyan said:
FanEu said:


I hope you are talking about UBW
In F/Z she was a great character there was a lot of conflict and interesting conversations between her and Rider, and her and Kiritsugu
one of my favourite female characters actually

Now she has been reduced to a tool and a punching bag I agree
But apparently thats because this isn't her route, honestly though the Fate route doesn't sound that much better a romance between her and Shirou? way to ruin a character

And even though Rin is better (in UBW at least otherwise hell no) and has more screentime she isn't the most complex character either


What character? Alex summed it up in one sentence. She's just a little girl hiding behind her facade, trying to be the big man. :I

In FZ, it's like she just gave up after one damned speech. In FSN, it took persuasion, fighting, and a mirror, to get her back on track.

That's way deeper and better than her character in FZ :/


I haven't read the Fate route so I can't comment on that I'm just talking about UBW (where she is just bland and terrible) and her romance with Shirou (which sounds silly, King Arthur with a highschool boy? C'mon)
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FanEu said:
Now she has been reduced to a tool and a punching bag I agree


Umm... Saber was always a punching bag. There is only a single instance in which she won a battle without someone's assistance or things going too conveniently for her while she was losing... and it's not in F/Z.

FanEu said:
But apparently thats because this isn't her route, honestly though the Fate route doesn't sound that much better a romance between her and Shirou? way to ruin a character


I love how people dismiss Fate route just because of that one sentence. Due to spoiler reasons I can't talk much about it, but Shirou's romance with Saber makes sense considering that they're very similar to each other. But again, you'd have to read Fate route to grasp completely her character; Alexander's summary in Zero isn't good enough to show how messed up she is.

I agree that Saber looks bland in UBW TV, but that's the drawback of adapting 2nd route without proper 1st route adaptation.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
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FanEu said:
mira-nyan said:


What character? Alex summed it up in one sentence. She's just a little girl hiding behind her facade, trying to be the big man. :I

In FZ, it's like she just gave up after one damned speech. In FSN, it took persuasion, fighting, and a mirror, to get her back on track.

That's way deeper and better than her character in FZ :/


I haven't read the Fate route so I can't comment on that I'm just talking about UBW (where she is just bland and terrible) and her romance with Shirou (which sounds silly, King Arthur with a highschool boy? C'mon)


Alexander the Great with a nerd.

Come on :I

Herakles with a loli

Come on :I

Gilgamesh caring deeply for Hakunon

Come on :I

I could literally keep naming them. I know all the servants and their masters.

Nasu's already stated that
1) UFO UBW is an Alternate universe from VN UBW
2) Saber's just there to look pretty.

Don't worry, I'm even more heart broken that you are.

You should just try reading Fate route Realta Nua version.
And HF, cos she gets some, unexpected, stuff there, too.
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Even the way she figures it out in UBW is good, sucks that it can't be in though.
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I hope you are talking about UBW
In F/Z she was a great character there was a lot of conflict and interesting conversations between her and Rider, and her and Kiritsugu
one of my favourite female characters actually

She was bland as hell in F/Z, though.
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Even the way she figures it out in UBW is good, sucks that it can't be in though.


Good, but not as good as Fate.

Yes, I know I shouldn't have pushed on. But FITE!
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The whole point of Saber in Fate/Zero is (paraphrased thoughts of the author): Saber gets bullied.

By Kiritsugu, who basically ignores her and by Gil and Rider who think she is ridiculous/amusing. Then she becomes the punching bag for Lancer, Caster and Berserker. Really, what a great character in Fate/Zero. Not to mention that there is no real development, because she has to stay the way she is in FSN.

And romance with Shirou in UBW? Am I missing something here? Camaraderie means romance?

But since there is romance in Fate... Saber is in the body of a 14/15 year-old girl. Hooking up with a 16/17 year-old boy doesn't sound that unreasonable.

mira-nyan said:
nocorras said:
Even the way she figures it out in UBW is good, sucks that it can't be in though.


Good, but not as good as Fate.

Yes, I know I shouldn't have pushed on. But FITE!
I think that's kind of obvious, since she doesn't get much screentime in UBW. In my opinion it still works with Fate knowledge in mind, but I would find it rather disappointing otherwise.
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The whole point of Saber in Fate/Zero is (paraphrased thoughts of the author): Saber gets bullied.

By Kiritsugu, who basically ignores her and by Gil and Rider who think she is ridiculous/amusing. Then she becomes the punching bag for Lancer, Caster and Berserker. Really, what a great character in Fate/Zero. Not to mention that there is no real development, because she has to stay the way she is in FSN.

And romance with Shirou in UBW? Am I missing something here? Camaraderie means romance?

But since there is romance in Fate... Saber is in the body of a 14/15 year-old girl. Hooking up with a 16/17 year-old boy doesn't sound that unreasonable.


Yh, but GoA said
10yrs from pulling out sword to killing Vortigen
10 more yrs from building Camelot and battle of Camlann.

She was 15 at the time, so she'd be older than Taiga in Fate route.
Such wrong.

Unless the 10yrs thing was wrong and PapaCore would like to enlighten me?

CapsuleCore said:

mira-nyan said:


Good, but not as good as Fate.

Yes, I know I shouldn't have pushed on. But FITE!
I think that's kind of obvious, since she doesn't get much screentime in UBW. In my opinion it still works with Fate knowledge in mind, but I would find it rather disappointing otherwise.


Yeah, pretty much. I don't really think an Anime-only viewer would get the resolution.

And this is if she's actually getting one. :l
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FanEu said:

I hope you are talking about UBW
In F/Z she was a great character there was a lot of conflict and interesting conversations between her and Rider, and her and Kiritsugu
one of my favourite female characters actually

She was bland as hell in F/Z, though.
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.
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She was bland as hell in F/Z, though.
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.


Japanese people love blond haired characters in most cases
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Feaor said:
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She was bland as hell in F/Z, though.
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.


I disagree she wasn't bland at all in F/Z her character was interesting
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Feaor said:
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.


Japanese people love blond haired characters in most cases



But on the poll

R.Shiki > Arc :l

Your theory is not sound m8.
Plus, Blonde Extra Rin

Feaor said:
Insertanamehere said:

She was bland as hell in F/Z, though.
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.





Fite me, bitch. :I

FanEu said:
Feaor said:
When is Seiba not bland? Even in Fate she's pretty bland. I still find it baffling that she's by far the most popular character from Fate/.


I disagree she wasn't bland at all in F/Z her character was interesting

Interesting as in her despair, yes.

We were all Gil when we watched that, and we know it. :l
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