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Jan 18, 2011 5:29 AM
#61
Hiroshi as Onyx. Really pulling out all the seiyuu. A bit was explained, but the fact that they didn't even make Ryuji fight a little bit was disappointing. I don't mind the lead having issues, but the way they made him act was annoying. Why did he get pissed at rose anyways? -.- Edit: holy crap i finally figured out that Horie Yui was doing the OP...*sigh* |
Jan 18, 2011 6:15 AM
#62
Why did the dragon go? Why did Ryuuji say he didn't want anything to do with relics? Even though those things happened I still liked the episode :] |
"My happiness comes from the kindness of those around me" |
Jan 18, 2011 6:19 AM
#63
KeiranShikari said: Not as good as e1 but still good. Looking forward for next week. This pretty much. |
Jan 18, 2011 7:05 AM
#64
Monad said: I don't get why so many people have problem with this. I actually thought it got even better. The plot actually thickens. We're on the same band. I mean, is not exaclty THE show, but it's kinda funny. I was waiting something else from the little girl, I shall say. |
Jan 18, 2011 7:24 AM
#65
Good episode yeah, plot's moving in good direction cause something is happening instead of usual shit. But male lead should die for being such a pussy, guess he'll own Onyx and bad guys later on with that level 10 something though. But come on Japan, gimme some lead that's normal from the start to the end, or steadily becomes more powerful. The instant pussy -> badass transformation isn't interesting, really. |
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Jan 18, 2011 9:12 AM
#67
Nothing special from this ep aside from the story progression. I really thought Rose will gonna fight back but she isn't. :/ |
Jan 18, 2011 9:40 AM
#68
Lefake said: It's only Ep 2 and the protagonist is getting ntr'd already? >_> Well I guess he deserved it for making rose cry over not wanting to get involved with some jewel. Being powerless is one thing, but being a bastard who hurts girls for stupid reasons..... AngelicFeces said: Stupid loser in Yosuga no Sora, stupid loser in Dragon Crisis. >> The queen of Tsundere is far too good for the likes of him. Ryuuji doesn't deserve such a dere dere girl, what a meanie, he should have helped Rose because he knows she loves him (pretty much to death). It served him right and he got more than what he deserved. |
Jan 18, 2011 10:20 AM
#69
Ryuuji shouldn't be such a wuss :| But it was still an okay episode, thou. |
Jan 18, 2011 11:04 AM
#70
As far as I know Breakers are Lost Precious users. The higher your level, the better you can synchronise with a lost precious (they mentioned that in episode one, in case this is considered a spoiler). As for rose just leaving with him, I guess she realized he is an adult - as someone else pointed out before me - and wanted to protect that spineless idiot that got beat up badly. I like that the plot moves forward and we got this "kidnap" so soon, looking forward to ep 3. Also... First post from a new guy =w= |
Jan 18, 2011 11:20 AM
#71
Daidragon1990 said: I can't help but think that Ryuji reminds me of Shinji a little.....just saying. LOL I thought I was the only one that thought that. |
Jan 18, 2011 12:30 PM
#72
Treating such a cute girl like that.. he got what he deserved! |
Jan 18, 2011 1:12 PM
#73
Jan 18, 2011 1:14 PM
#74
I don't really like the direction the series is going at the moment. I don't mind plot and the series getting more serious at times, but I didn't really want things to play out how they did. Hopefully things get resolved soon, I don't want it to be dragged on for too long. |
Jan 18, 2011 1:44 PM
#75
shuncchi said: already best op this season imo.but ep was ok, waited for ryuji to do something but ok. 1 ep was kinda better though. Same here, though he would use some kind of power... |
Jan 18, 2011 1:54 PM
#76
Monad said: I don't get why so many people have problem with this. I actually thought it got even better. The plot actually thickens. From the first episode it seemed like it could just develop to another simple harem and him trying to make dragon girl behave good at school and all that usual anime staff. Yet we get fights and detraction from the second episode and a bad guy they have to chase after. Seriously the show is going a lot better than other shows who get better comments than this. Ok the main guy didn't impress but whatever that 10 level is, is obviously something that isn't battle useful or it needs some kind of old relic weapon. That dragon dude destroyed a small army and a lot of super defensive systems. Expecting him to fight against him is ridiculous. He had no chance to begin with. Thank you! I mean my goodness, i'm completely loving this series so far and everyones on here complaining and such...this is probably my favorite anime this season so far. |
Jan 18, 2011 2:56 PM
#77
Wow, what a lame episode! Half of the episode I barely understood. When did she learn how to speak in full sentences?! I must have missed that part, or something. Who's ''Fang'', and what's a ''breaker'', all these questions are asked within a mere single episode. Usually you ask all the questions the first time around, not leaving it for later. Unless you're expanding a story of which is already explained and answered. I loved the first episode, and was eccentric to see the second. Unfortunately, didn't meet my expectations. I really, really hope they can pull off something a little better in the next episode. Looking forward to the next! HalvorzN said: Chances are you're right about that.Unless a lvl 10 Breaker stands for a major coward i don't get it. I like the OP and ED tho. |
desolatoJan 20, 2011 6:04 AM
Jan 18, 2011 3:36 PM
#78
awww, rose is so adorable! ...and yes, as everyone above me stated, ryuji is a little useless now. but aren't all the shounen main guys like that in the begining? O.o this kinda reminds me of HOTD... harem-ish, but goes on like a holiwood action movie... in a good way :D even if this becomes untolerably bad (which i doubt), i'm gonna continue watching this ^^ for the opening&ending, if not anything else. chibi-eriko ftw! :DD |
Jan 18, 2011 4:37 PM
#79
This series isn't really grabbing me at all. It's just kind of lame at this point. It's probably an unfair judgment at only two episodes in, but that's all I felt this episode. The thing that really stood out for me was how Onyx dealt with the cousin. He extends his hand, smoke (or something) comes out, and she falls down. That is some lame shit right there. Also as others have mentioned, the protagonist is a pussy. I understand that this early on he can't beat up the bad guy, but the dude just fucking stood there as Rose was kidnapped. And Onyx is a bad guy for what exactly? Breaking her out of a research center that was going to keep her locked up and experiment on her? Sounds like the dude just saved her from where I'm setting. Oh, but he's kind of a prick so that makes him the bad guy. This show has one more episode to do something or I'm bailing. I don't know what it is, but I just need to feel something other than apathy as I'm watching it. |
Jan 18, 2011 5:31 PM
#80
Yumekichi11 said: Gangler said: I think it would be great to see Rose and Onyx's origins and how it made to current times that things from the medieval time still survived up to now.You think she'll help him get over the issues that are holding him back? I don't know why I hadn't thought of that, but it could be a very fun level. He seems right now to be an extraordinary individual living a very ordinary life. Perhaps they'll turn this into a "The making of the man" type story and we'll get to see the legendary figure's humble origins. I'd theorize that the barrier mentioned has something to do with it. What I'd also be interested in though is why the barrier was made in the first place? It would imply that at some point there was some danger to the dragons that lead to this self imposed isolation. Yumekichi11 said: Gangler said: My point may be confusing but I meant that a necklace means nothing if it is not recognized by the person wearing it and I am sure Rose would give it up. Pre-arranged marriage also should not done since most of the time that is what caused the deaths of many women during the non-divorce times of the medieval times. Onyx is just selfish fool who never bothered to ask Rose feelings but just respects a engagement that is deemed highly important due to Rose's royal nature.Yumekichi11 said: This part sounds a bit confused to me. I don't think she's being forced to marry because she has the necklace. I think she has the necklace because they have been arranged to marry each other. Basically a dragon engagement ring. The rest is all spot on. The way Onyx treated Rose was horrible, a forced marriage because of a necklace? Really? Ah, that makes sense. Basically it's a disagreement with arranged marriages in general, and also you feel that Onyx should have more respect for Rose's wishes. Fair enough. What the dragons do as their custom seems to be no one's business but their own, but Onyx should definitely put more importance into Rose's desires. He's supposed to be her husband, so be a freaking gentleman about it. Let her do her thing and try and talk her into coming back. Forced kidnapping's are not the way to go. Then again he wouldn't be much of a villain if he took that approach would he? :p I just hope this isn't indicative of the women's rights situation in dragon society... Yumekichi11 said: Gangler said: I agree but it seems that the only way to fight dragons is with other dragons and that is sad because there does not seem to be any human to stop them less weapons get developed.I'd argue though that onyx is OP because he's... well, a dragon. That's just how dragons are. The most powerful of earths warriors band together to slay a dragon, and likely only manage to die an painful death if they even manage to wake the guy up. Their dying thoughts are the realization of the mistaken arrogance that led them to this situation. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Lost Precious's will serve that role. They seem to be the system of Magic within this setting, and that's always important in the whole dragon slaying business. No one's ever killed a dragon with steal, but an enchanted blade that can cut even material as tough as dragon's scales and inflicts some manner of additional magic damage? That generally helps the odds greatly^^ Yumekichi11 said: Ah, basically stick to one element. I'm pretty sure his element is poison, toxicity, something like that. It explains all his gases, and when he melted the walls it looked more acidic than firey. His wind manipulation was just from the use of his powerful wings, so probably every dragon can do that. The teleportation was a concern though. I suspect that there was something involved in that beyond his naturally granted racial powers. Either his earing lost precious (though I'm not sure yet that dragons can use those...) or some skill he's developed on his own. Plus, since he didn't just immediately teleport into the room there's probably some limitations to that.Gangler said: Agreed but I also think making things too powerful can upset certain balances, I think the counter is including other Dragons such as the Blue Ones that have water as power, the Yellow Ones who can use Lighting and we need the classical White Ones, which use the opposite of what Onyx used.Honestly, if all he'd had was some minor flame manipulation that would have disappointed me. It'd be like if they had a God type character who's only notable power was walking on water. It'd be a degradation to the point that the name is no longer appropriate. Rose hasn't even grown her wings yet and she can roast a city block. I think this speaks volumes about dragons as a race within this setting. ZgMfx2oAFrEeDoM said: Wow, what a lame episode! Half of the episode I barely understood. When did she learn how to speak in full sentences?! I must have missed that part, or something. Who's ''Fang'', and what's a ''breaker'', all these questions are asked within a mere single episode. Usually you ask all the questions the first time around, not leaving it for later. Unless you're expanding a story of which is already explained and answered. I loved the first episode, and was eccentric to see the second. Unfortunately, didn't meet my expectations. I really, really hope they can pull off something a little better in the next episode. Looking forward to the next! She learned to speak when watching TV last night. Fang is the organization they stole Rose from. Try to keep up... |
Jan 18, 2011 5:37 PM
#81
MoonFox said: Same here. I find it kinda boring to have her kidnapped this soon. How on earth is Rose able to talk alot this episode? She could just speak Ryuji Ryuji and Ryuji (Ice too) last episode. Though not as good as the previous ep, i like this ep too. Hope Rose will be rescued next ep, and the black dragon gets pwned.I thought the whole "Princess gets captured by badguy" thing usually happened in the middle of series.. not in the beginning. I thought it was kinda dumb. |
Jan 18, 2011 5:50 PM
#82
If Ryuuji will depend on women and rose to get through obstacles , I swear I'll drop this title -_-, i'm sick of male protagonists always being a bunch of pansy retards with no powers and needs to depend on woman to stay alive >_>". The only thing i found entertaining about this title so far is the ending song =D |
Jan 18, 2011 6:20 PM
#83
Rose induces too much HHHNNNGGG. I don't think I'll be able to make it through this series before my heart fails me. |
Jan 18, 2011 6:37 PM
#84
Jan 18, 2011 7:33 PM
#85
Gangler said: Yumekichi11 said: Gangler said: I agree but it seems that the only way to fight dragons is with other dragons and that is sad because there does not seem to be any human to stop them less weapons get developed.I'd argue though that onyx is OP because he's... well, a dragon. That's just how dragons are. The most powerful of earths warriors band together to slay a dragon, and likely only manage to die an painful death if they even manage to wake the guy up. Their dying thoughts are the realization of the mistaken arrogance that led them to this situation. Ah yes in regards to the Lost Precious, certainly it will play a role for they are ancient artifacts that do have magical properties, perhaps breakers may be the only ones who know how to activate them and use them? Perhaps also level 10 may mean the compatible rate and what Lost Precious may be used increases greatly to almost anyone at level 10. Eriko being a level 7 only implies that she may have been frustrated with proclaiming it because she could not use some Lost Precious. Yumekichi11 said: I will go with the earing being responsible. I remember lots of RPGs that involve earrings to boost your magical powers and I am referring towards FF3 USA version. So it's quite possible that earring is a Lost Precious that boosts your magical powers but it's useless if you have no magical powers.Gangler said: Ah, basically stick to one element. I'm pretty sure his element is poison, toxicity, something like that. It explains all his gases, and when he melted the walls it looked more acidic than firey. His wind manipulation was just from the use of his powerful wings, so probably every dragon can do that. The teleportation was a concern though. I suspect that there was something involved in that beyond his naturally granted racial powers. Either his earing lost precious (though I'm not sure yet that dragons can use those...) or some skill he's developed on his own. Plus, since he didn't just immediately teleport into the room there's probably some limitations to that.Honestly, if all he'd had was some minor flame manipulation that would have disappointed me. It'd be like if they had a God type character who's only notable power was walking on water. It'd be a degradation to the point that the name is no longer appropriate. Rose hasn't even grown her wings yet and she can roast a city block. I think this speaks volumes about dragons as a race within this setting. |
Jan 18, 2011 7:43 PM
#86
Jan 18, 2011 7:44 PM
#87
i liked the first episode but the second one kinda ruined it for me. not really my type. |
Jan 19, 2011 2:24 AM
#88
Jan 19, 2011 8:15 AM
#90
First episode was good but this episode was a meh for me. Rose was saying only Ryuji in first episode, then she started watching TV all night very first day and next day she learned everything. that was really fast. also dragon guy found her too soon, Not to mention security forces (or society whatever). its like everyone had dragon detector. and Ryuji seems really pathetic hero when he pushed rose just because his parent abandoned him? and in the end, both Ryuji and Red Dragon lost without any hard resistance and fight. Also somehow i didn't liked Ryuji voiced by Shimono Hiro. He voiced Kisaragi Keima and now Kisaragi Ryuji.. Keima was brilliant though. Overall, the story pacing is too fast. both Ryuji and Rose should had character development before facing and fighting with black dragon. Ryuji who didn't cared for Rose and wasn't serious about 5 mins ago, going home and leaving her to society, now if he suddenly become a strong hero to fight against black dragon won't help much in my opinion. |
Jan 19, 2011 8:52 AM
#91
Tsuki-Hime said: Overall, the story pacing is too fast. both Ryuji and Rose should had character development before facing and fighting with black dragon. Ryuji who didn't cared for Rose and wasn't serious about 5 mins ago, going home and leaving her to society, now if he suddenly become a strong hero to fight against black dragon won't help much in my opinion. Which is pretty much going to happen next episode or the episode afterward. |
Jan 19, 2011 9:36 AM
#92
Tsuki-Hime said: First episode was good but this episode was a meh for me. Rose was saying only Ryuji in first episode, then she started watching TV all night very first day and next day she learned everything. that was really fast. also dragon guy found her too soon, Not to mention security forces (or society whatever). its like everyone had dragon detector. and Ryuji seems really pathetic hero when he pushed rose just because his parent abandoned him? and in the end, both Ryuji and Red Dragon lost without any hard resistance and fight. Also somehow i didn't liked Ryuji voiced by Shimono Hiro. He voiced Kisaragi Keima and now Kisaragi Ryuji.. Keima was brilliant though. Overall, the story pacing is too fast. both Ryuji and Rose should had character development before facing and fighting with black dragon. Ryuji who didn't cared for Rose and wasn't serious about 5 mins ago, going home and leaving her to society, now if he suddenly become a strong hero to fight against black dragon won't help much in my opinion. ... Why can no one wrap their head around the fact that Ryuuji is human, and Onyx is a dragon. Level ten who gives a shit. Onyx threw him across the room and had him struggling to maintain consciousness with the flick of his wrist. Ryuuji was unarmed. Rose is still in the infantile stages of development. What the hell do you want from them? Also, I seriously suspect that parental issues are the tip of the iceburg with whatever his problem is. His anger at his parents wasn't the source of the issue, it was a manifestation of it. The pacing is a bit fast however. I hope at some point I can read the LN's and see if it's the anime being on a rushed schedule or if the author just decided to hit the ground running. |
Jan 19, 2011 11:29 AM
#93
Gangler said: Tsuki-Hime said: Ryuji seems really pathetic hero when he pushed rose just because his parent abandoned him? and in the end, both Ryuji and Red Dragon lost without any hard resistance and fight. ... Why can no one wrap their head around the fact that Ryuuji is human, and Onyx is a dragon. Level ten who gives a shit. Onyx threw him across the room and had him struggling to maintain consciousness with the flick of his wrist. Ryuuji was unarmed. Rose is still in the infantile stages of development. What the hell do you want from them? Also, I seriously suspect that parental issues are the tip of the iceburg with whatever his problem is. His anger at his parents wasn't the source of the issue, it was a manifestation of it. It's not about why Ryuji didn't beat the dragon on their first meeting or fight par with him, but its about trying or showing proper interest to save her. just calling her by name in the end is not helping to build a proper relationship between characters or story development, and he was also dropping her in society just few minutes ago. that was really pathetic. at-least he should have taken the responsibility to take care of her, because he helped his cousin to stole that lost precious (dragon girl) and she know him and had strong affection for him. he should have opposed the idea of leaving her to society. parental issue can create anxiety (or whatever), but when you see a girl who call only your name, see you as her parent, who don't even know how to eat and moreover she didn't hit you on the head. now pushing her and try to abandon her, and then you need to save her after few minutes when her fiance forcibly took her. that's just way too fast to build a story and relations. Also dragon is way too powerful who can beat with just a finger flick and destroy all security and in return the hero is undeveloped character, who don't even know how to use or try to use a fist and its not a long running series where hero will train to beat strong villain/opponent. i wasn't talking about that level ten breaker and we even don't know yet what he can do with his level, though considering how fast story is, i think he will power up in one or two episodes. (i hope to be wrong here) if i compare this with to aru majutsu as i saw recommendations on anime page. touma had a personality where he want to take care of others and want to save when he see them in trouble. but this is quite opposite. he was not even happy to let her stay in his flat for a night. Edit: i was wondering why Kugimiya Rei sound repetitive when she say Ryuuji Ryuuji. That's because Yuuji Yuuji O.o SilentPredator03 said: Onyx is a bad guy for what exactly? Breaking her out of a research center that was going to keep her locked up and experiment on her? Sounds like the dude just saved her from where I'm setting. Oh, but he's kind of a prick so that makes him the bad guy. and This This. Black Dragon saved her. not to mention he cared about her, that's why he didn't killed Ryuuji BUT just because he's kind of a prick, :) so Ryuuji will get motivation to save Rose-hime. |
Han-yuuJan 19, 2011 1:04 PM
Jan 19, 2011 1:10 PM
#94
this anime has the best opening this season, its jus as epic as only god knows. i must dl that song. anywayz, this anime is becoming interesting, still confused about some things, but im sure it will come together. |
Currently Watching: Durarara!! |
Jan 19, 2011 1:21 PM
#95
So let me get this straight: 1. People are bitching about Ryuuji taking his frustrations out on Rose. -While understandable that she is innocent, do understand that Ryuuji DID say his parents were always obsessed with the Lost Precious and other things. Rose is pretty much a physical manifestation of what his parents were always obsessing over. Remember that he said he was in Albania because his parents were most likely searching for dragons or whatnot and not on a pretty little family vacation. 2. Ryuuji didn't bother putting up a fight against Onyx cause he's a pussy ass bitch. -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? Protag gets beaten up and is unable to do anything against a far superior villain. I see absolutely no reason to whine and bitch and blow this one out of proportion when it happens in every other anime out there. LV10 breaker or not, he's up against a fully mature dragon who is probably able to use his powers to the fullest. 3. It's "boring" and Rose being captured is "too soon" and stuff doesn't "make sense". -What the fuck? There are shitloads of anime out there that just throws a huge load of information and not answer anything until later. Complaining about this is moot. And how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. |
Jan 19, 2011 1:30 PM
#96
Jan 19, 2011 1:43 PM
#97
@Tsuki-Hime Believe it or not, the fact that Rose is unusually attached to ryuji does not give him any obligation to take care of her. In point of fact, by giving her to Society he was handing her to some people who would, and in fact the only people who could, take care of her. She's a dragon. This isn't like raising a human child. He had stated previously that this was more than they could handle. Quite frankly, I'd be hesitant to take on a child who could blow up a city block in a tantrum as well. He has no relationship with her. Certainly not to the point that he should want to fight for her. If she goes off with him I'm sure the dragons can take care of her even better than the lab could. As she grows up she'll probably forget about ryuuji anyway. Letting the man take her back home is hardly a grave offense. You're right, he's not the best main character ever. Certainly he's not Touma. I personally don't expect every hero to be touma though. Basically, he didn't have to take responsibility for shit. His sister took him along as she tried to steal an artifact, they ended up with a dragon. That doesn't create an obligation to raise a child. In fact, if this was a realistic character, he'd just leave things as they are and go back to school. |
Jan 19, 2011 2:01 PM
#98
Wasabi said: So let me get this straight: 1. People are bitching about Ryuuji taking his frustrations out on Rose. -While understandable that she is innocent, do understand that Ryuuji DID say his parents were always obsessed with the Lost Precious and other things. Rose is pretty much a physical manifestation of what his parents were always obsessing over. Remember that he said he was in Albania because his parents were most likely searching for dragons or whatnot and not on a pretty little family vacation. 2. Ryuuji didn't bother putting up a fight against Onyx cause he's a pussy ass bitch. -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? Protag gets beaten up and is unable to do anything against a far superior villain. I see absolutely no reason to whine and bitch and blow this one out of proportion when it happens in every other anime out there. LV10 breaker or not, he's up against a fully mature dragon who is probably able to use his powers to the fullest. 3. It's "boring" and Rose being captured is "too soon" and stuff doesn't "make sense". -What the fuck? There are shitloads of anime out there that just throws a huge load of information and not answer anything until later. Complaining about this is moot. And how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. Lets see. - He found a girl in a suitcase. - He was not happy. - He spent a night. - He accompanied her to Research center next morning. - He was going to drop her in Research center for experiments after few hours. - Girl fiance came, destroyed research center and saved the girl from becoming a lab rat. Now he will go to rescue her from fiance and too damn powerful dragon for WHAT? just because he choose her name and her fiance act like a prick? Great development so far to save princess. really make sense. right. Gangler said: @Tsuki-Hime Believe it or not, the fact that Rose is unusually attached to ryuji does not give him any obligation to take care of her. In point of fact, by giving her to Society he was handing her to some people who would, and in fact the only people who could, take care of her. She's a dragon. This isn't like raising a human child. He had stated previously that this was more than they could handle. Quite frankly, I'd be hesitant to take on a child who could blow up a city block in a tantrum as well. He has no relationship with her. Certainly not to the point that he should want to fight for her. If she goes off with him I'm sure the dragons can take care of her even better than the lab could. As she grows up she'll probably forget about ryuuji anyway. Letting the man take her back home is hardly a grave offense. You're right, he's not the best main character ever. Certainly he's not Touma. I personally don't expect every hero to be touma though. Basically, he didn't have to take responsibility for shit. His sister took him along as she tried to steal an artifact, they ended up with a dragon. That doesn't create an obligation to raise a child. In fact, if this was a realistic character, he'd just leave things as they are and go back to school. Agreed. He's not a caring person, he had no obligation and he doesn't want to attach with her, so in upcoming episodes, if they show a normal "Let's save the princess" plot, that will not make any sense and worst in my opinion. unless they pulled out some other story in order to save her. |
Han-yuuJan 19, 2011 2:14 PM
Jan 19, 2011 2:14 PM
#99
Tsuki-Hime said: Lets see. - He found a girl in a suitcase. - He was not happy. - He spent a night. - He accompanied her to Research center next morning. - He was going to drop her in Research center for experiments after few hours. - Girl fiance came, destroyed research center and saved the girl from becoming a lab rat. Now he will go to rescue her from fiance and too damn powerful dragon for WHAT? just because he choose her name and her fiance act like a prick? Great development so far to save princess. really make sense. right. I don't know if you've noticed, but it's only the second episode out of 12. There's plenty of room for him to develop plenty of reasons to save Rose. Hell, the most generic way for this to happen is him going on some kind of guilt trip and realizing he can't take it knowing it was his fault for letting her getting dragonnapped by Onyx. |
desolatoJan 20, 2011 5:58 AM
Jan 19, 2011 2:22 PM
#100
Wasabi said: Tsuki-Hime said: Wasabi said: -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. Lets see. - He found a girl in a suitcase. - He was not happy. - He spent a night. - He accompanied her to Research center next morning. - He was going to drop her in Research center for experiments after few hours. - Girl fiance came, destroyed research center and saved the girl from becoming a lab rat. Now he will go to rescue her from fiance and too damn powerful dragon for WHAT? just because he choose her name and her fiance act like a prick? Great development so far to save princess. really make sense. right. I don't know if you've noticed, but it's only the second episode out of 12. There's plenty of room for him to develop plenty of reasons to save Rose. Hell, the most generic way for this to happen is him going on some kind of guilt trip and realizing he can't take it knowing it was his fault for letting her getting dragonnapped by Onyx. Yeah, its second episode that's why i said in my first post. story is moving too fast. actually if there more reasons come up to save her, with some kind of different plot or situation, then its great, and that's why i will give this show a chance for one or two more episodes. otherwise, just because Onyx took her and now he got obligation to save her. unfortunately that will not work for me. |
Jan 19, 2011 3:49 PM
#101
Onyx-the-great black dragon! (see what I did thar?) ^^ Also nice to finally see some action! Ryuji is a lvl 10 Breaker, but even so it seemed he could do nothing to protect Rose. And then she just went with Onyx because Ryuji yelled at her to leave her alone earlier! ;_; Hopefully they'll save her next episode! |
Jan 19, 2011 3:58 PM
#102
think every1 can guess where the story's heading to since its such a cliché story secret power of an apparently weak girl which will awaken by the protagonist bla bla... well still gonna follow since there aren't many good series at the moment |
Jan 19, 2011 4:08 PM
#103
Jan 19, 2011 5:11 PM
#104
Jan 19, 2011 6:56 PM
#105
Nanodesu said: I'm not understanding the entire meaning of being a Breaker. A breaker is able to use the Lost Precious since low-level breakers cannot use high-level Lost Precious. All I can say is that, if Ryuuji gets serious, he is able slay that black dragon (dragonslayer). Then again, he's not that kind of person even if he is overpowered by being at the highest level of Breaker in the world. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Jan 19, 2011 10:03 PM
#106
wakka9ca said: In regards to your spoiler Nanodesu said: I'm not understanding the entire meaning of being a Breaker. A breaker is able to use the Lost Precious since low-level breakers cannot use high-level Lost Precious. All I can say is that, if Ryuuji gets serious, he is able slay that black dragon (dragonslayer). Then again, he's not that kind of person even if he is overpowered by being at the highest level of Breaker in the world. I can easily see that he will be the breaker of Rose wielding a power that will beat many in this series. It's obvious since the red dragon is not normal but a princess. Wasabi said: Oh I got it straight that it's all cliche but I like the art difference this series produces so that's my trick in liking animes that repeat a lot of things you mention. Else I would long ago have done something else. What's good in this series is the art, particularly the characters although some also generic.So let me get this straight: 1. People are bitching about Ryuuji taking his frustrations out on Rose. -While understandable that she is innocent, do understand that Ryuuji DID say his parents were always obsessed with the Lost Precious and other things. Rose is pretty much a physical manifestation of what his parents were always obsessing over. Remember that he said he was in Albania because his parents were most likely searching for dragons or whatnot and not on a pretty little family vacation. 2. Ryuuji didn't bother putting up a fight against Onyx cause he's a pussy ass bitch. -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? Protag gets beaten up and is unable to do anything against a far superior villain. I see absolutely no reason to whine and bitch and blow this one out of proportion when it happens in every other anime out there. LV10 breaker or not, he's up against a fully mature dragon who is probably able to use his powers to the fullest. 3. It's "boring" and Rose being captured is "too soon" and stuff doesn't "make sense". -What the fuck? There are shitloads of anime out there that just throws a huge load of information and not answer anything until later. Complaining about this is moot. And how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. |
Jan 19, 2011 10:08 PM
#107
aah, that's why this sucked so much dick, same director as h20 footprints in the sand |
Jan 19, 2011 10:36 PM
#108
Yumekichi11 said: Wasabi said: Oh I got it straight that it's all cliche but I like the art difference this series produces so that's my trick in liking animes that repeat a lot of things you mention. Else I would long ago have done something else. What's good in this series is the art, particularly the characters although some also generic.So let me get this straight: 1. People are bitching about Ryuuji taking his frustrations out on Rose. -While understandable that she is innocent, do understand that Ryuuji DID say his parents were always obsessed with the Lost Precious and other things. Rose is pretty much a physical manifestation of what his parents were always obsessing over. Remember that he said he was in Albania because his parents were most likely searching for dragons or whatnot and not on a pretty little family vacation. 2. Ryuuji didn't bother putting up a fight against Onyx cause he's a pussy ass bitch. -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? Protag gets beaten up and is unable to do anything against a far superior villain. I see absolutely no reason to whine and bitch and blow this one out of proportion when it happens in every other anime out there. LV10 breaker or not, he's up against a fully mature dragon who is probably able to use his powers to the fullest. 3. It's "boring" and Rose being captured is "too soon" and stuff doesn't "make sense". -What the fuck? There are shitloads of anime out there that just throws a huge load of information and not answer anything until later. Complaining about this is moot. And how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. Yumekichi11 said: Lol. Good point. If I didn't enjoy generic anime I wouldn't watch as much anime as I do. Let's face it, new and unique doesn't happen every season.Back when I enjoyed generic fantasy fiction I always had a book in my hand. Not a month would go by that I didn't read a trilogy or two. Eventually I got fed up with seeing the same dwarves I've seen before and now I'm lucky if I read two fantasy novels a year. Can't wait for wise man's fear. I just thank all the stars that never happened with anime. Whenever it starts to get stale I just play videogames for a few months and when I come back everything is awesome again^^ |
Jan 20, 2011 1:53 AM
#109
Wasabi said: Exactly. Especially the third point is what i said too. People complaining that this shit usually happen after 7-8 episodes. WTF? The anime should apologize for not being clishe and playing harem house for 9 episodes leaving all the plot at the last two episodes? So let me get this straight: 1. People are bitching about Ryuuji taking his frustrations out on Rose. -While understandable that she is innocent, do understand that Ryuuji DID say his parents were always obsessed with the Lost Precious and other things. Rose is pretty much a physical manifestation of what his parents were always obsessing over. Remember that he said he was in Albania because his parents were most likely searching for dragons or whatnot and not on a pretty little family vacation. 2. Ryuuji didn't bother putting up a fight against Onyx cause he's a pussy ass bitch. -Honestly, HOW many other fucking anime follows this SAME exact trope? Protag gets beaten up and is unable to do anything against a far superior villain. I see absolutely no reason to whine and bitch and blow this one out of proportion when it happens in every other anime out there. LV10 breaker or not, he's up against a fully mature dragon who is probably able to use his powers to the fullest. 3. It's "boring" and Rose being captured is "too soon" and stuff doesn't "make sense". -What the fuck? There are shitloads of anime out there that just throws a huge load of information and not answer anything until later. Complaining about this is moot. And how the hell is Rose being captured "too soon"? Would you rather they spend half the whole series doing absolutely nothing but play House and go to school like some retarded slice of life? Shit happening this early can mean shit is going to happen later on. Tsuki-Hime said: Yeah, its second episode that's why i said in my first post. story is moving too fast. actually if there more reasons come up to save her, with some kind of different plot or situation, then its great, and that's why i will give this show a chance for one or two more episodes. otherwise, just because Onyx took her and now he got obligation to save her. unfortunately that will not work for me. Your reasons are as stupid as they can get since 95% of anime are people saving people they hardly know. If we want to talk about illogical i can't find a lot more illogical things in every anime you gave a good score too. Besides his a man. He needs no more reason than the fact that a nice beutiful girl that loved him is in danger. That's what men are supposed to do. Many of us do it in reality too. Not to mention that he has even more serious reasons because she gave herself to that dragon without a fight so he won't get hurt(how can any person be satisfied with that and not want to help back) and that she's a valuable lost precious they fought to get. Also you can't claim she's a complete stranger. He already spend almost two days with her holding his hand all the time, they already have a basic pond. |
desolatoJan 20, 2011 6:01 AM
Jan 20, 2011 5:14 AM
#110
You know I have a response to say too all the people in every episode discussion who make these type of comments. - Story is going too fast / too slow. - Story / character is generic / cliche blah blah. - The ending was too rushed. Please. The fact of the matter is the problem lies with you having to criticise everything. I want to read discussion about the contents of the show, not read the same(generic/cliche >.>) comments over and over on every anime and have someone argue. I won't get more insight on the show like this. I think everyone can make up their own mind on whether they think the pace is good or whatnot without having to hear this. Anyway, I'm just putting it out there. |
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