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| i watched it several times ! :)) because little kurama was so cute and also the sound track of fighting scene. this episode is epic ! |
| If not for those filler episodes Naruto's rating here in MAL would be 8.5 and above |
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ao_no_exo said: link9us said: achmed-sama said: EPIC episode, Bro fists are damn awesome!! Naruto's last form... Kakashi:Sensei?! Spectacular scene. Redirecting 5 Bijuu-Dama like a child's toy was damn fantastic. Gai:We are witnessing the battle of devils! Very good fighting scene. Chibi Bijuus are so kawaii. Can't wait to see next episode. Naruto's last form so far :P. Hey don't spoil it :P. Also I had an epic 7 episodes marathon of Naruto, missed 5 or so weeks of my anime :). About the episode: Wow it was epic. I really liked it, if chibbi Kurama would have cried more I think some sad onions would have been chopped in front of me, and we saw the first master of all bijuu's/ can't wait to see moe... more stuff in this plot. Even if I was spoiled about Tobi :D. My intention was not to spoil it, that is why i used a spoiler tag for only manga readers to view it and respond, but in any case, it was a very very minimal spoiler, hardly nothing. Yeah thats a big one for sure, and i am sure ALOT of other people been spoiled by that to but do not worry, their is another nice revelation coming up that anime viewers will just die for. EDIT: Its taken me 4 tries to post this due to log out issues. This is so damn frustrating. |
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| This episode was awesome. lol when Eight-Tails punched the crap out of Five-Tails and the little Tailed-Beasts |
| Great episode, nice soundtrack, cool animation. |
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leofrod said: I cried like a little girl. Fuck. Same. Fuck indeed. |
| Great episode. And far out I have to say those chibi tailed beasts were cute lol |
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link9us said: achmed-sama said: EPIC episode, Bro fists are damn awesome!! Naruto's last form... Kakashi:Sensei?! Spectacular scene. Redirecting 5 Bijuu-Dama like a child's toy was damn fantastic. Gai:We are witnessing the battle of devils! Very good fighting scene. Chibi Bijuus are so kawaii. Can't wait to see next episode. Sorry,didn't know. I am not reading manga |
| Damn! That was one hell of a epic episode! I've waited too long for this! they really made it worth waiting for!! Those epic moments with the epic soundtracks! Hell YEAH! |
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| Next episode probably won't be as action oriented as this one if the pacing continues the way it has been, but 331 should be pretty epic. |
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| 549 episodes in the making... Naruto finally teams up with Kurama. Goddamn, the OST was bloody awesome. If there's one thing Pierrot always gets right, it's the OST. |
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| Come to think of it i actually watched this episode on my HD TV with no speakers and just the crappy ass audio coming from the tv. Now that i re watched it on my laptop and put on a head set, the music is actually pretty interesting. Its amazing how much detail in the back ground music you miss if you don't watch something with quality audio. |
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link9us said: My intention was not to spoil it, that is why i used a spoiler tag for only manga readers to view it and respond, but in any case, it was a very very minimal spoiler, hardly nothing. Yeah thats a big one for sure, and i am sure ALOT of other people been spoiled by that to but do not worry, their is another nice revelation coming up that anime viewers will just die for. EDIT: Its taken me 4 tries to post this due to log out issues. This is so damn frustrating. Don't worry, it really wasn't a big spoiler. It's not like I care much. I got spoiled of Tobi intentionally. I just wish they would release 100 episodes now and let people watch it at their own pace. :P |
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| Epic episode ! |
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| Finally Bijuu mode!! Why is Kyuubi more powerful than all the rest of them put together?? o.o A bit overpowered :P Didn't feel awesome as it should've been though, the new OST didn't do it for me :/ aawww chibi Kurama :') |
Danny-REI said: Finally Bijuu mode!! Why is Kyuubi more powerful than all the rest of them put together?? o.o A bit overpowered :P Didn't feel awesome as it should've been though, the new OST didn't do it for me :/ aawww chibi Kurama :') The more tails they have the more powerful I guess, and that's only 50% of Kurama's true power. |
| Best... Episode... EVER!!! I've so fallen in love with the pace of this ep. 4 chapters? Who saw that coming xP Chibi Kurama looked cute xP Naruto gets another prophecy from the Sage of Six Paths, huh? Awesome ep! Hopefully, they'll keep up this pace for a little while~! |
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jayvon said: Danny-REI said: Finally Bijuu mode!! Why is Kyuubi more powerful than all the rest of them put together?? o.o A bit overpowered :P Didn't feel awesome as it should've been though, the new OST didn't do it for me :/ aawww chibi Kurama :') The more tails they have the more powerful I guess, and that's only 50% of Kurama's true power. Absolutely not true. This was already stated that more tails does not mean more power. Kurama never accepted naruto completely. That is why he was never that strong with extra chakra to reserve. Possibly its because he could not handle that much of a chakra overload. Now Kurama has finally accepted him as a prodigy to the sage of six paths. They are in sync with each other and he is giving naruto all of his chakra. I don't think its a bull shit move or him being over powered, its clearly explained in the anime. This anime lies heavily on the theme of acceptance and recognition, let me tell you. |
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link9us said: Absolutely not true. This was already stated that more tails does not mean more power. Kurama never accepted naruto completely. That is why he was never that strong with extra chakra to reserve. Possibly its because he could not handle that much of a chakra overload. Now Kurama has finally accepted him as a prodigy to the sage of six paths. They are in sync with each other and he is giving naruto all of his chakra. I don't think its a bull shit move or him being over powered, its clearly explained in the anime. This anime lies heavily on the theme of acceptance and recognition, let me tell you. Not necessarily true either, the only time where the order of the Tailed Beasts was discussed by a thrustworthy source (aka - the Bijuu themselves) is when Kurama says to Gyuuki that as the one with the most tails after him and thus the second most powerfull, he shouldn't be having troubles in battle. Gyuuki then retorts that the tails don't determine the power of the Bijuu. This isn't a case of right or wrong, but a case of Kurama's word against Gyuuki's, and considering the power Kurama DOES have, he might be the one who's right. Naruto's bond aside, the power Kurama has is far higher than the other tailed beasts, you don't just match 5 combined bijuudamas with only 1 hastily created one without having a clear advantage. While it showed both in the manga and the anime that the 5 opposing Bijuus formed the combined attack normally, Naruto's Bijuudama was formed much, much faster but still was able to match the other. Kurama is by quite a margin the strongest Bijuu. ''a prodigy to the sage of six paths'' - I'm not sure what that means, wouldn't he be a reincarnation instead? And yes, logout issues are really, really annoying. |
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Aloxamax said: link9us said: Absolutely not true. This was already stated that more tails does not mean more power. Kurama never accepted naruto completely. That is why he was never that strong with extra chakra to reserve. Possibly its because he could not handle that much of a chakra overload. Now Kurama has finally accepted him as a prodigy to the sage of six paths. They are in sync with each other and he is giving naruto all of his chakra. I don't think its a bull shit move or him being over powered, its clearly explained in the anime. This anime lies heavily on the theme of acceptance and recognition, let me tell you. Not necessarily true either, the only time where the order of the Tailed Beasts was discussed by a thrustworthy source (aka - the Bijuu themselves) is when Kurama says to Gyuuki that as the one with the most tails after him and thus the second most powerfull, he shouldn't be having troubles in battle. Gyuuki then retorts that the tails don't determine the power of the Bijuu. This isn't a case of right or wrong, but a case of Kurama's word against Gyuuki's, and considering the power Kurama DOES have, he might be the one who's right. Naruto's bond aside, the power Kurama has is far higher than the other tailed beasts, you don't just match 5 combined bijuudamas with only 1 hastily created one without having a clear advantage. While it showed both in the manga and the anime that the 5 opposing Bijuus formed the combined attack normally, Naruto's Bijuudama was formed much, much faster but still was able to match the other. Kurama is by quite a margin the strongest Bijuu. ''a prodigy to the sage of six paths'' - I'm not sure what that means, wouldn't he be a reincarnation instead? And yes, logout issues are really, really annoying. Actual debating in the anime thread? I love it lol. Reminds me how people were trying to deduce and theorize the logic in the manga for so many things upcoming. Anyways this is merely my answer, so don’t take it as concrete cut in stone logic. Just how I see it. As we all know, realistically the true strength of a tailed beast and his Jinchuuriki is not determined by the actual strength of the tailed beast, it is a combination of both of their abilities and their choice to work together that allows them to become powerful. There is a lot more detail involved in this regarding “love”, emotions and other things but im pretty sure they have not been explained yet so I won’t go into it. An important factor generally to consider is the power of each tailed beast “By themselves” (With no Jinchuuriki) is determined by the amount of tails each beast has. You have to remember that every bijju (tailed beast) knew of their own power and limitations back when they were free, they did not possess a host at the time. This is further supported by the 8 Tails comment about the 9 tails like you said that the power of a Tailed beast is not determined only by the amount of tails but by the ability to work with their host. This informs us that Kurama is not working with his host at the time, thus he is weaker than other tailed beasts that do. This whole system is thrown to the wind though when a “special” host such as naruto is able to control kurama’s chakra. For example if naruto was the host of the 1 tailed chukakau, he would probably be leaps and bounds above gaara’s ability to use his full power. That is just my speculation based on what I know. Like his predecessor, Mito Uzumaki and the first jinchuriki of kurama, Naruto gains Kurama's ability to sense negative emotions. He is capable of sensing kurama’s chakra. Now as I said before, the amount of the chakra reserves and syronization really does not depend on the just the tailed beasts power but the ability for the host to control the tailed beast. That is why at the time of not forming a fond with kurama, naruto was weak before, he was unable to handle the full extent of kurama’s yang chakra. I don’t know if they went into the whole principles of the yin and yang logic so I am going to leave it at that for now. I am going to just spoil tag this just for the sake of it, its not a spoiler, just information questions that have long been coming and will shed more light on this whole subject in the future. But some people don't want to to be hinted towards anything so thats why im spoil tagging it. This will soon be answered in another few more episodes. There is definitely more to it than just the bijju’s level of power. |
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link9us said: This was my thought too. That the power of the bijuu/host is considered by adding those 2 together. Obviously Naruto was never able to control Kurama also let's not forget that Kurama took chakra from Naruto all the time to make Naruto use him and be able to create bigger cracks in the seal and escape. (This was explained in the last few episodes) This not only means that the synchronization of Kurama's chakra and Naruto's chakra was weaker but also that Naruto was never able to use all his power having to use chakra to keep Kurama in control. (Or should I say having his chakra taken by Kurama, if you remember it right 8 tails said surprised that Kurama has stopped using Naruto's chakra). So all in all Naruto's full use of chakra + Kurama's free flowing chakra (free of the seal) made them allot stronger. And I don't think that their first try was their best try, I hope(and I guess) there will be more and those 7 bijuu's are weak considered to what's following. |
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link9us said: *Long reply* The way I see it, after Naruto defeated Kurama to separate his chakra from his hatred, Gyuuki's comment was mostly right. At the time, Naruto couldn't use Bijuu chakra forever, as Kurama would at the same time be slowly draining his own chakra. He couldn't use full Bijuu mode, nor form a Bijuudama (basically use Kurama's full power) because he wasn't able to control that much chakra. When Kurama's seal/cage was opened and he melded his chakra with Naruto, both of them were controlling the chakra, so it could be used to its full potential. Gyuuki's comment could be refering to the amount of power he brings to his host rather than the amount of power he held. But I'm not sure, because that whole 'We're strong because we work together' thing could simply be Nakama power instead of actual power. As for your questions, well, I've had some myself that are similar but in a nother direction. I focus a little more on Kurama himself. If you think about it, Naruto is the only host of the Kyuubi that is actually able to use his power. Mito's and Kushina's seal served the purpose of restraining Kurama, they couldn't use his power as far as I'm aware. That would be the reason why the fact that Naruto's seal allowed him to use Kurama's power was discussed and highlighted many times, because it wasn't the same for the other hosts. That means this is the first time Kurama's power is used to this extent, so we can't make assumptions that focus solely on Naruto, Kurama is special too. What follows is some of my thoughts about Kurama's role in all of this, I've read the manga, so it may have spoilers, so yeah, this is a warning: |
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Aloxamax said: ... What follows is some of my thoughts about Kurama's role in all of this, I've read the manga, so it may have spoilers, so yeah, this is a warning: Haha I was so into it reading that you could have spoiled me with allot of stuff, thanks for stopping :P. |
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ao_no_exo said: Aloxamax said: ... What follows is some of my thoughts about Kurama's role in all of this, I've read the manga, so it may have spoilers, so yeah, this is a warning: Haha I was so into it reading that you could have spoiled me with allot of stuff, thanks for stopping :P. There are only 4 words in what would be the spoiler, but you can safely read it, the only way to notice the single spoiler in there would be to perfectly remember every single Naruto shippuden episode to date, and even then you probably wouldn't find anything odd in what I'm saying. Everything else refers to stuff that's been shown in the Anime already. |
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Aloxamax said: ao_no_exo said: Aloxamax said: ... What follows is some of my thoughts about Kurama's role in all of this, I've read the manga, so it may have spoilers, so yeah, this is a warning: Haha I was so into it reading that you could have spoiled me with allot of stuff, thanks for stopping :P. There are only 4 words in what would be the spoiler, but you can safely read it, the only way to notice the single spoiler in there would be to perfectly remember every single Naruto shippuden episode to date, and even then you probably wouldn't find anything odd in what I'm saying. Everything else refers to stuff that's been shown in the Anime already. I did read it, you said at the end: "There's more I want to say about it, but it delves too deep into the manga, and I don't want to reveal anything too important to those who ignored the warning.". That's why I've made the reply. Also everything in that spoiler makes sense so I really don't know to what you are referring saying: " 4 words in what would be the spoiler" and "remember every single Naruto shippuden episode to date" because everything in that spoiler was already in the episodes so far thus not making it a spoiler as it's not something from a future episode rather just a conclusion of the connections from the episodes so far. In which case I think these connections were explained in the manga and so will be in a future episode of the anime and because of that you think it's a spoiler. Indeed it's a spoiler for someone who doesn't remember the previous episodes but otherwise you made it nicely and did not spoil us :D (the spoiler tag was appropriate though). |
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ao_no_exo said: Aloxamax said: ao_no_exo said: Aloxamax said: ... What follows is some of my thoughts about Kurama's role in all of this, I've read the manga, so it may have spoilers, so yeah, this is a warning: Haha I was so into it reading that you could have spoiled me with allot of stuff, thanks for stopping :P. There are only 4 words in what would be the spoiler, but you can safely read it, the only way to notice the single spoiler in there would be to perfectly remember every single Naruto shippuden episode to date, and even then you probably wouldn't find anything odd in what I'm saying. Everything else refers to stuff that's been shown in the Anime already. I did read it, you said at the end: "There's more I want to say about it, but it delves too deep into the manga, and I don't want to reveal anything too important to those who ignored the warning.". That's why I've made the reply. Also everything in that spoiler makes sense so I really don't know to what you are referring saying: " 4 words in what would be the spoiler" and "remember every single Naruto shippuden episode to date" because everything in that spoiler was already in the episodes so far thus not making it a spoiler as it's not something from a future episode rather just a conclusion of the connections from the episodes so far. In which case I think these connections were explained in the manga and so will be in a future episode of the anime and because of that you think it's a spoiler. Indeed it's a spoiler for someone who doesn't remember the previous episodes but otherwise you made it nicely and did not spoil us :D (the spoiler tag was appropriate though). Ok this is something I posted outside of the discussion board, i took out the parts that may contain spoilers, but just in case. I decided to place it in a spoiler tag but I believe everything mentioned here has been explained. This is in regards to the Uzumaki’s Bloodline and how naruto is “special” in a way as well. A question that many people have wanted concrete answers for in regards to how naruto handles kurama as being the host of the kyubi. There are also other things that I did not touch base on because it would be dangerously close to spoilers but it will come up soon enough. There is alot of shit to learn about all this. It’s quite intriguing and interesting when the story reaches these points in full scale. Some one might be able to explain this more and give more intelligently precise answers, some one that really knows all the details. But just remember that this is the anime discussion board, so do not go to deep. @ Aloxamax Yes their is a bloodline structured in the story of naruto and has been kind of a prominent building concept behind how certain character's inherit their abilities. So its important to note this well looking at naruto specifically when trying to deduce or analyze the story and his character and the development process he has made throughout the series. |
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link9us said: Yeah I didn't make exactly that connection but I had the same idea. That Naruto himself is powerful enough to fight a bijuu(we could add Kurama to an exception but he was defeated with little help from octopus and Kushina by Naruto when he tried to get some of Kurama's chakra in his training). So yeah in my idea I already thought of Naruto as powerful as Sasuke or even stronger since the beginning of the series where the tailed beast was explained. Only because it was always mentioned that Naruto's chakra was destabilized and used by Kurama. I always thought that if he was able to fight along side Sasuke and have to keep a bijuu under control at the same time he would be quite powerful if Kurama wouldn't be there. Obviously now that he doesn't have to control but rather work together with the bijuu he became stronger. And you talking about bloodline it makes it quite clear, as we shouldn't forget who's son Naruto is :). |
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| ahh bijuu mode finally nice to see something sasuke related is gonna be in the next episode |
| Yeah their is going to be main focus on sasuke pretty soon and oh man is it great. |
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| The best. One of the Top 5 Naruto episodes. |
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lakshika said: Haha I felt the same during the episode... :) |
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| HOLY SHIT THAT WAS FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!! I love this episode, one of the best Naruto episodes. You know you love something when it still give you goose pumps and you still get emotional after 300+ eps and some years <3 <3 <3 <3 <3. I re-watched this 3 times, I think I'm gonna let the episodes pile up now, this epicness can keep me satisfied for several weeks :D. 5/5 |
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| YES FINALLY!!!! Full Ninetails mode!!! |
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WolfWood37 said: YES FINALLY!!!! Full Ninetails mode!!! Not really, this is a chakra version of Kurama. Until he fully transforms into Kurama himself, as in the actual being (flesh and all), we can't really call it a Full Nine-Tails mode. |
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yhunata said: WolfWood37 said: YES FINALLY!!!! Full Ninetails mode!!! Not really, this is a chakra version of Kurama. Until he fully transforms into Kurama himself, as in the actual being (flesh and all), we can't really call it a Full Nine-Tails mode. Your a little mixed up, its not nine tailed chakra mode, its the tailed beast mode. He has had the nine tailed chakra mode since the training at the waterfall. |
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link9us said: yhunata said: WolfWood37 said: YES FINALLY!!!! Full Ninetails mode!!! Not really, this is a chakra version of Kurama. Until he fully transforms into Kurama himself, as in the actual being (flesh and all), we can't really call it a Full Nine-Tails mode. Your a little mixed up, its not nine tailed chakra mode, its the tailed beast mode. He has had the nine tailed chakra mode since the training at the waterfall. I was saying that he's just transforming into Kurama in a chakra form. I didn't really have it mixed up. |
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yhunata said: link9us said: yhunata said: WolfWood37 said: YES FINALLY!!!! Full Ninetails mode!!! Not really, this is a chakra version of Kurama. Until he fully transforms into Kurama himself, as in the actual being (flesh and all), we can't really call it a Full Nine-Tails mode. Your a little mixed up, its not nine tailed chakra mode, its the tailed beast mode. He has had the nine tailed chakra mode since the training at the waterfall. I was saying that he's just transforming into Kurama in a chakra form. I didn't really have it mixed up. Sorry for the missunderstanding, i was quoting wolfwood37. But im sure you guys both know kyubi mode and bijju mode are completely different. |
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