Godplayer said: Anime is more on quality of drawings and cartoon is more on quality of animation. anime  cartoon  |
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| Well in that example you're comparing two completely different styles, but I think Inget your point. But then again, Prince of Egypt was a fully produced, feature length film. |
Ghost-Lightning said: Well in that example you're comparing two completely different styles, but I think Inget your point. But then again, Prince of Egypt was a fully produced, feature length film. So was Doraemon: Nobita's Dinosaur. My point being that Godplayer's definition isnt necessarily true |
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| I feel you. In regard to his example, that is entirely dependant on the artist/studio. |
| This is like the 100th time this topic has come up in this year alone. You know better, KingJenny. |
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Akito_Kinomoto said: There are some topics on these forums I'm willing to give intelligible responses to. This is not one of them. Pretty much this |
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katsucats said: This is like the 100th time this topic has come up in this year alone. You know better, QueenJenny. When I searched ''anime cartoons'', the only threads that came up were at least two years old. I'm only gonna do so much. battosai-01 said: Akito_Kinomoto said: There are some topics on these forums I'm willing to give intelligible responses to. This is not one of them. Pretty much this Except you both responded to it. |
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| I've got a better question. Why are some people so deluded that they think anime is somehow superior to western cartoons? |
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SaberRitsu said: I've got a better question. Why are some people so deluded that they think anime is somehow superior to western cartoons? The sheer notion that anyone thinks any form of anime is superior to Dora the Explorer is absolute blasphemy. |
| And what is cartoon in Japanese, children? Anyway, anime is just a shorter way of saying animation (or 'animeshon') which is taken from the word Animation. There's also another theory that it came from the French word, which also uses anime. Hence why it's written in Katakana. |
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QueenJenny said: Ghostony said: According to QueenJenny and Introverturtle, by Japans definition of Anime (the most accurate definition because they are the ones who made the word up) Not all anime are cartoons, but all anime are animations. Neither of us came up with that word (obviously), and that only works if all animated films/series were cartoons, and well, they're not. 'Anime' simply refers to Japanese animation, not just Japanese cartoons, though that's what the great majority of them are. Lol, why are you arguably agreeing with me |
GhostonyMay 7, 2013 6:27 AM
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| well i think there different, yea technically there not but idgaf the styles of anime and western animation are jst way too different for to consider putting me in the same category |
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jbrockz05 said: All are animation. Cartoons, anime, 3D's like pixar and dreamworks,..they are all types of animation. Kind of like a mustang and corvette are both cars, but different types of cars. anime and cartoons are both animations, just different types of animations. do you really have to do this |
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| There are many forms of animation and Anime is one of them! They're FORMS of animation meaning they are animated, but EXECUTED DIFFERENTLY. It's like saying "Google Chrome is Internet Explorer". They're both web browsers, but there are differences. You wouldn't call Google Chrome "Internet Explorer" or vice versa. "Cartoon is a form of animation" "Anime is a form of animation" That does not make cartoon an anime or vice versa. Anime: a Japanese style of motion-picture animation, characterized by highly stylized, colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sexuality. Cartoon: a motion picture using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects. They're styles and techniques of animating. Therefore they are a form of animation. Cartoon = Form of Animation Anime = Form of Animation |
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| Ren & Stimpy > anime. |
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
| It's just a point of view whatever you believe. In the west, anime has become an ad-hoc term to use when referring to animated productions from Japan. In Japan, the same word is used for Japanese cartoons and cartoons from anywhere else. Technically: Cartoons = Anime Contextually (Western POV): Cartoons != Anime Contextually (Japanese POV): Cartoons = Anime |
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sherlock5545 said: It's just a point of view whatever you believe. In the west, anime has become an ad-hoc term to use when referring to animated productions from Japan. In Japan, the same word is used for Japanese cartoons and cartoons from anywhere else. Technically: Cartoons = Anime Contextually (Fan POV): Cartoons < Anime Contextually (Japanese POV): Cartoons = Anime fixed. |
Kana2Chan said: One thing I've noticed over the years, is how a lot of anime fans get shit upset if you even associate animu with cartoons. Because cartoons are often seen as something childish, they keep insisting that anime and cartoons are two separate things, but that's a false dichotomy. Now to get this straight: 'Anime' usually refers to Japanese animation, nothing more, nothing less. Wikipedia said: A cartoon is a form of two-dimensional illustrated visual art. While the specific definition has changed over time, modern usage refers to a typically non-realistic or semi-realistic drawing or painting intended for satire, caricature, or humor, or to the artistic style of such works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the 19th century, it came to refer to humorous illustrations in magazines and newspapers, and in the early 20th century and onward it referred to comic strips and animated films. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because of the stylistic similarities between comic strips and early animated movies, "cartoon" came to refer to animation, and the word "cartoon" is currently used to refer to both animated cartoons and gag cartoons. I wonder what your view is on all of this. Would you consider something like Naruto a cartoon? If not, then what separates it from your idea of what the word is used to describe? Should we all just start calling anime 'Japanese cartoons' in order to upset pissy weebs? Anime are cartoons,but not all anime are cartoons.Although from what I understand the Japanese refer to all cartoons as anime regardless of where the cartoons where made.But outside of Japan anime is a term used to refer to Japanese cartoons. |
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| Do people actually care about pointless terminology like this? Who cares, call it whatever you want, in the end it's only words. |
sherlock5545 said: It's just a point of view whatever you believe. In the west, anime has become an ad-hoc term to use when referring to animated productions from Japan. In Japan, the same word is used for Japanese cartoons and cartoons from anywhere else. Technically: Cartoons = Anime Contextually (Western POV): Cartoons != Anime Contextually (Japanese POV): Cartoons = Anime Dmanful said: Do people actually care about pointless terminology like this? Who cares, call it whatever you want, in the end it's only words. |
JISHINE said: There are many forms of animation and Anime is one of them! They're FORMS of animation meaning they are animated, but EXECUTED DIFFERENTLY. It's like saying "Google Chrome is Internet Explorer". They're both web browsers, but there are differences. You wouldn't call Google Chrome "Internet Explorer" or vice versa. "Cartoon is a form of animation" "Anime is a form of animation" That does not make cartoon an anime or vice versa. Anime: a Japanese style of motion-picture animation, characterized by highly stylized, colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sexuality. Cartoon: a motion picture using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects. They're styles and techniques of animating. Therefore they are a form of animation. Cartoon = Form of Animation Anime = Form of Animation :P |
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| They're just 2 different words applied to the same thing by different cultures. |
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IntroverTurtle said: In Japan it's just a short way to say animation, we just changed the definition a little. And Western fans have been retarded ever since, on this topic. |
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| I'll only seperate the both in a certain extent. I acknowledge the both to be the same yet very differently just not only by art style, but how it treats its audiences in comparison. |
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| According to Oxford Dictionary and Merriam-Webster, the term "anime" is used if the animation came from Japan. Other than that, the terms both describe the same thing, i.e., they are both computer animations. The only difference is the origin of the STYLE of the said animation. So, yes, all anime are cartoons, but more specifically, if it's a cartoon from Japan, so it's known as an "anime". This is nearly identical to the comparison between a Rectangle and a Square. [b]A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square (unless all sides are equal). An anime is a cartoon, but a cartoon is not an anime (unless it is, stylistically Japanese). Oxford Dictionary Entry of "Anime"  Oxford Dictionary Entry of "Cartoon" entry number 2  Merriam-Webster defines "anime". Merriam-Webster defines "cartoon". TL;DR: Cartoon is a more specific term than the overarching broader term of anime. Anime is a type of cartoon. Edit:Typos again... |
| The term "anime" is indeed short for "Japanese animation" but 1 difference between anime and cartoons is the difference between Sesame Street and "Inglourious Basterds". And theres also the differences between plots. Cartoons have no structure whatsoever, they just push out episodes that are only related by characters and setting. There is no master plot that progresses with every episode like anime does. |
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Old_Raven said: The term "anime" is indeed short for "Japanese animation" but 1 difference between anime and cartoons is the difference between Sesame Street and "Inglourious Basterds". And theres also the differences between plots. Cartoons have no structure whatsoever, they just push out episodes that are only related by characters and setting. There is no master plot that progresses with every episode like anime does. Surely, the plots will be different...lol wtf? "Cartoons have no structure whatsoever," Are you claiming that "Batman and Spider have" have no plot structure? I find your answer a bit biased, could you elaborate? |
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Old_Raven said: WRONG! Thundercats 2011, Young Justice, Gargoyles, X men evolution, Wolverine and the Xmen etc. all have structure and follow a main plot.The term "anime" is indeed short for "Japanese animation" but 1 difference between anime and cartoons is the difference between Sesame Street and "Inglourious Basterds". And theres also the differences between plots. Cartoons have no structure whatsoever, they just push out episodes that are only related by characters and setting. There is no master plot that progresses with every episode like anime does. |
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BryanBossling said: One thing I've noticed over the years, is how a lot of anime fans get shit upset if you even associate animu with cartoons. Because cartoons are often seen as something childish, they keep insisting that anime and cartoons are two separate things, but that's a false dichotomy. Now to get this straight: 'Anime' usually refers to Japanese animation, nothing more, nothing less. Wikipedia said: A cartoon is a form of two-dimensional illustrated visual art. While the specific definition has changed over time, modern usage refers to a typically non-realistic or semi-realistic drawing or painting intended for satire, caricature, or humor, or to the artistic style of such works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the 19th century, it came to refer to humorous illustrations in magazines and newspapers, and in the early 20th century and onward it referred to comic strips and animated films. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because of the stylistic similarities between comic strips and early animated movies, "cartoon" came to refer to animation, and the word "cartoon" is currently used to refer to both animated cartoons and gag cartoons. I wonder what your view is on all of this. Would you consider something like Naruto a cartoon? If not, then what separates it from your idea of what the word is used to describe? Should we all just start calling anime 'Japanese cartoons' in order to upset pissy weebs? Anyone claiming cartoons and anime are two different things are fooling themselves.They have no idea what they are talking and have extremely stereotypical views about anime and cartoons outside of Japan. People in Japan anime refers to all animation regardless of country of origin as anime.It doesn't matter if its Sponge Bob square pants or Cowboy Bebop. |
ezikialrageAug 13, 2014 12:53 PM
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| I don't even care personally, but it's annoying when people except a page like MAL to change their definition on a whim. It's easy to use anime for japanese animation, people know immediately what you're talking about, I don't get why people are against specifications of our language. They are useful. |
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| It is quite amusing seeing how people using semantics to create context that is not even there. Imagine this scenario: Villager A come to village B, they were presented with a fruit which the villager A known as apples. When he ate that apples he felt something different than the one that he used to ate, then he asked villager B what kind of apple did he ate, the villager B didn't know what 'apple' is, all he know that fruit was named 'ringo'. From then on villager A called that kind of apple as 'ringo-apples', and he bought them to sold at his own village. As time passes through, somehow the name reduced into 'ringo', and the general references to 'apple' is disappear as the word 'ringo' now connotes stronger with the fruit's unique flavors than general Apples, to the point that some even argues that it was two different fruits that just looks ridiculously identical, even though it comes from the same types of trees. The point is, some of you guys still sees it as an apple, since it is technically still the same type of fruit, while others sees it as ringo, for it has different kind of flavors. No one at fault here, it's just because you're referencing the same thing in different categories. I don't get it why people has to be upset about that, just enjoy your fruits. |
azzuReAug 14, 2014 7:40 AM
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| You're right, they aren't. Anime is just a regional term for animation's (cartoons) from Japan. Though i'm unfamiliar with how the Japanese use it, I do believe that nowadays, at least, anime is only used in context to Japanese animation. So a cartoon from America wouldn't be an anime, but an anime from Japan would be a cartoon. |
| By a mere word matter, cartoons and anime are practically the same, because they're both animations. But more deeply, I see cartoons less profound, or rather less serious about world topics like anime is used to do. I mean that anime can also manage to be serious and embrace a more complex range of emotion than Western cartoons usually plays on. By far from what I saw, wetern cartoon prefers to handle more or less amount of topics with a comedic approach, anime imho treats them more on 360°. And, I'm not bashing neither of them, because I enjoy both a lot. |
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