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ElMorty said: Hypno-girl said: Ginjou got what he wanted, he still stole Ichigo's fullbring. He just thought that in the process he had stealed the totality of Ichigo's reiatsu which wasn't the case. Yeah, so well done Kubo: the point of this whole arc was Ichigo getting his power back; a bunch of new charas come in, some for the sake of him doing so, some against it, he starts learning how to use this new fullbring thing, things start getting bad, it was all a clever (?) plan in order to deceive him and ...then we find that all of this was useless, because it takes no time to Ichigo's SS friends to revive a much stronger power in him! ... doesn't sound a well thought plot for this arc, nono .... too many unnecessary parts ... at least that's what it makes ME think: "if all of this arc was going to be so pointless, wouldn't it have been better if Kubo had just cutted it all off, making the SS friends' party come at the very beginning, giving back powers, and ending it all, right then, ready for the next arc?" This arc tie very well with the rest and is not as useless as you think. This served to develop Ichigo's character and I wouldn't be surprised if Riruka join Ichigo's side somewhere along the lines. Also the reason for Ichigo to regain his power also depended on this arc. SS do not forgive anyone that willingly related himself with hollow power (they tried to execute senior captain on a doubt), Ichigo just did that 'unforgivable' act when he seeked a fullbring and SS will most probably do not stand sit. On the other way there is those that beleive in Ichigo that went out of their way to make Ichigo regain his shinigami power. This served to make Ichigo clean of this 'hollow power' that SS despise as well as giving Ichigo a mean to fight against SS. Of course not everyone would agree to fight Ichigo, that's why SS will probably become a mess soon enough. Byakuya came there to repay a debt, Ikaku look up to Ichigo since age ago, Rukia and Renji beleive in Ichigo like no others, Zaraki do not want his fighting buddy to be executed and Hitsugaya also beleive in Ichigo to some extent. They are not envoy by SS, in fact giving Ichigo back is power is probably treason to some extent. They do not want to save Ichigo from the fullbringer, they want to give Ichigo a mean to fight against what SS prepared for him. Also when I said that Ichigo is the strongest man the Gotei 13 ever knew, note how I precised the Gotei 13. Of course there is stronger being than Ichigo, probably in the royal guard, may be in the kido department or may be a vasto lorde for all I care. I'm just saying that in the Gotei 13's section of SS, Ichigo was the strongest. Also note when I say that SS do not forgive Ichigo, I mean central 46 and there's a lot of captain that will obey any order, including killing Ichigo no matter how much they feel on the matter. |
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| Yeah, some things just don't change. Ichigo being a sissy is one of them. Roller coaster of a chapter. My enthusiasm reached it's peak at page 12 and steadily decreased up to end of the chapter. Let's see how things pick up from now on. |
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ElMorty said: Hypno-girl said: Ginjou got what he wanted, he still stole Ichigo's fullbring. He just thought that in the process he had stealed the totality of Ichigo's reiatsu which wasn't the case. Yeah, so well done Kubo: the point of this whole arc was Ichigo getting his power back; Except that it was NOT the point of this arc. The focus was not on fb as power for ichigo. FB of his was not treated as powerup. Focus is on FB connection to Isshin and what they need his fb for. Reading Comprehension - you lack it. Hypno-girl said: ElMorty said: Mh, I didn't dislike this as a comeback, but too many things make very few sense to me: it's too easy for Kubo to say that Ichigo's reiatsu core is too much deep inside himself for badguys to suck it away ... If they had no chance of succeeding from the very beginning what was the point of this whole arc? Wouldn't it have been better if shinigamis had just appeared and given Ichigo his powers back? All these happenings of the previous chapters seem so unneeded for now, to me ... Ginjou got what he wanted, he still stole Ichigo's fullbring. He just thought that in the process he had stealed the totality of Ichigo's reiatsu which wasn't the case. ElMorty said: Other things I didn't like: why is it that Soul Society is so desperate about reviving Ichigo's Reiatsu? They have plenty of better warriors .... Hope Kubo will explain at least that ... (if they just wanted to save their buddy Ichigo they could have just beaten the bad guys for him in the first place ... no need for reiatsu transfusions! ) Ichigo is the strongest man that was ever part of the Gotei 13 even if he had a substitute post. Also, SS look like it is reproaching Ichigo something, probably linked with Ichigo wanting to rely on hollow based power (aka fullbring). My guess is that Byakuya and co came on their own free time now and aren't on a job for SS. THis most likely rest of SS is planning on executing him. Hence why ginjou felt no need to do anything, most likely. Ichigo was as good as dead anyway. I see this group as the only ones who sided with Ichigo. ReaperEXE said: Hypno-girl said: He's about to use Getsuga Tensho, isn't that enough?We do not have enough information yet to assure that this new blade is Zangetsu but from the look of it it look like an 'empty zanpakuto' just like I said. And so could Isshin. It just means its -getsu sword. Not that its ZANgetsu. It might be just another sword of that family/line. |
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| I loved this chapter. I didn't expect the captains to come. His getsuga was strong but I am still confused about it's power level. I am glad that he didn't lose his power^_^ I can't wait for the next chapter >_< |
princessnight said: I loved this chapter. I didn't expect the captains to come. His getsuga was strong but I am still confused about it's power level. I am glad that he didn't lose his power^_^ I can't wait for the next chapter >_< Post-dangai level most likely. 1. The only time he used sword-pressure alone as attack was after jinzen. 2. his shikai looks different from his pre-dangai shikai(just like his post-dangai bankai looked different from his pre-dangai bankai) 3. It took 5 Captain-level shinigami reiatsu to regai his power. Aizen had the ammount of 2x of captain... |
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Hypno-girl said: Of course it is speculation, nobody can say for sure what will happen. Some people were saying that the story do not makes sense, I provided them a speculation that would make everything that happened have sense. This way they cannot say that this does not make sense. Against someone that say that there's is no way out I do not have the obligation to propose every way out possible, I just have to show one to destroy their theory Yup. That can be zanpaktou or NOT. we don't have enough proof yet. add OR for speculations and everything is proved. What i said in previous chapter. Kubo better start explaining or this whole arc was useless to give ichigo his powers with new random characters nothing more unless proven from chapters and not speculation, i have Reading/Watching comprehension. |
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Han-yuu said: What i said in previous chapter. Kubo better start explaining or this whole arc was useless to give ichigo his powers with new random characters nothing more unless proven from chapters and not speculation, i have Reading/Watching comprehension. 1. We know Ginjou has an extensive information about Isshin and seems to know him. 2. We know Tsukishima is intensely hiding from someone not wanting to appear in camera or recordings. 3. We know xcution/fullbringers need Ichigo's fb for some reason, most likely connected to him being kurosaki. 4. We know someone else had similar fullbring to Ichigo's and Ginjou was reminded of it. 5. We know everyone of fullbringers, including ginjou (used to)go to same private school in which tsukishima is a teacher. That is important. 6. Kubo made sure that both Chad and Orihime would hold back against Ichigo and NOT use their new techniques. And he made sure to point that out so they most likely are a lot more stronger. Its clear that htis arc has a higher purpose. Its just that most of people assumed its "regain powers" arc while Ichigo's fullbring was never portrayed or treated as power-up and was not the focus of this arc. |
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Han-yuu said: Hypno-girl said: Of course it is speculation, nobody can say for sure what will happen. Some people were saying that the story do not makes sense, I provided them a speculation that would make everything that happened have sense. This way they cannot say that this does not make sense. Against someone that say that there's is no way out I do not have the obligation to propose every way out possible, I just have to show one to destroy their theory Yup. That can be zanpaktou or NOT. we don't have enough proof yet. add OR for speculations and everything is proved. What i said in previous chapter. Kubo better start explaining or this whole arc was useless to give ichigo his powers with new random characters nothing more unless proven from chapters and not speculation, i have Reading/Watching comprehension. So far there is a way this could turn out so that everything actually does make sense. Saying that this arc was useless is implying that this arc is not usefull and since it contribuated to the plot in many aspect while still being logically plausible I am sorry to tell you that you are wrong on this statement. |
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| ok so they took away his powers only to give him even more powerful ones? what was the point of that. he had this same exact exchange with aizen before he used his ultimate form. what a waste. |
| the battle will change and this is fucking great |
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| AW HELL YEAH!!!!! I LOVED this chapter!! Having all the captains there with Rukia and everything was EPIC! |
| This chapter is so awesome! It makes up for not having it last week and all the chapters before that. OMG Renji and the others showed up it can only get better from here. |
Fai said: 1. We know Ginjou has an extensive information about Isshin and seems to know him. No we don't. Ginjo said. "You shouldn't know a thing about your family". that can be some random words to mislead him and Ginjo screen time can be over in next few chapters. Also it makes me wonder. How ichigo believed his random crap like "We want to give our powers to you" but didn't ask a thing about his suspicious family background. Fai said: 2. We know Tsukishima is intensely hiding from someone not wanting to appear in camera or recordings. That's the only thing i'm waiting for. how it will all connect with Soul Society, Kurosaki Family and some evil planning scheme. Fai said: 3. We know xcution/fullbringers need Ichigo's fb for some reason, most likely connected to him being kurosaki. What? there is something else? i thought he said we won't meet again and it can be just "hunger of power". Fai said: 4. We know someone else had similar fullbring to Ichigo's and Ginjou was reminded of it. 5. We know everyone of fullbringers, including ginjou (used to)go to same private school in which tsukishima is a teacher. That is important. 6. Kubo made sure that both Chad and Orihime would hold back against Ichigo and NOT use their new techniques. And he made sure to point that out so they most likely are a lot more stronger. Some random points to move this arc. Fai said: Its clear that htis arc has a higher purpose. Its just that most of people assumed its "regain powers" arc while Ichigo's fullbring was never portrayed or treated as power-up and was not the focus of this arc. For now this whole arc: Full Bringers want more power. they mislead Ichigo, took his powers and see ya. (Ginjo: let him cry. It's unlikely we will ever meet again) Speculation: They are highly connected with kurosaki family and isshin past. (it's better be worth explaination from kubo in upcoming chapters and i won't say this arc was useless) |
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| Best chapter yet. I lol'd when ichigo was like: That wasn't a getsuga tensho, I was just practicing my swing. It was pretty obvious that the reunion was going to be comedic, but still interesting to watch nonetheless. LOL I thought Ikkaku would get some hair by now. That would have been the best time skip result I have ever seen. |
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| one word - AWESOME!!!!!!! |
| It is time for the shounen power up event of the arc- where the protagonist finally blows everything up in an amazing spectacle with some weird power up. These are the only parts i like about classic shounen. |
Han-yuu said: Also it makes me wonder. How ichigo believed his random crap like "We want to give our powers to you" but didn't ask a thing about his suspicious family background. You are going by assumption that this arc does not matter. Kubo would not have promoted Ginjou as much as he did for it to not matter. Ginjou has his own freaking themesong, was included on chapter covers, posters, group posters, volume back cases, themesong cd covers and so on. He also has ability to take FB powers which makes him suspect of being that "other" "shinigami representative" he said tsuki killed. Which makes him connected to SS, which makes him connected to Isshin. Occam's razor dictates that since Ginjou said he has info on Isshin, he does have info on isshin. Han-yuu said: What? there is something else? i thought he said we won't meet again and it can be just "hunger of power". 1. Ever since Ukitake handed the badge we had multiple scenes foreshadowing its importance: Ishida got really ominous feeling from badge, it was clear that the whole "representative badge" thing was bogus lie since no one except ukitake had any idea on what the badge is and Ginjou has similar badge. 2. They could care less about Chad's or Orihime's powers. One of them is on par with every captain barring the power four and the other of them has powers on par with hogyoku. Yet they went through all this ruse to get ICHIGO'S power. Han-yuu said: Some random points to move this arc. Not quite. Orihime did not use her counter-shield against IChigo and she was going to use a different attack against ginjou during training that got interrupted. Chad specifically pointed out that he is holding back because its Ichigo. Someone having similar fb is what we call foreshadowing. need i remind you how one name mentioned in naruto got turned into our "favorite" Friend-rip-off or how stuff like arrancars, shinji and other things were namedropped through the manga? Chekov's gun is set for the purpose of going off. |
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| Good chapter. But I will be really happy when some explaining of Ichigo's new Shinigami powers starts happening. |
| yachiru wasnt there so ikkaku is new lieutenant of 11th, happy for ikkaku~ |
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| woah, its been ages since the big 3 had awesome chapters in the same week.. nice double page with the captains.. i hope they wont just disappear now randomly.. wanna see some fights |
| Seeing Rukia and the rest of the captains made me have hope again. |
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Merue said: yachiru wasnt there so ikkaku is new lieutenant of 11th, happy for ikkaku~ Actually if you look closely there's hair flowing behind Kenpachi, so it could be her... As for the chapter: It was pretty good overall tho I felt like the colour pages weren't exploited well enough but no biggie. Oh and you gotta admit that the way Ichigo explained to Ginjou that he didn't use Getsuga Tenshou was pretty cool. |
| I don't know why I keep reading this shit, Ichigo's so over-powered it doesn't make sense, I think I deign reading this out of a sense of morbidity, and to re-affirm my believe that this will end as a piece of crap. (After Aizen, Bleach lost its Raison d'Etre, otherwise I wouldn't be calling this a piece of shit, and to all butthurts out there, you can take two more inches, as you are free to show your fanboyism I am free to take a dump on it). |
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| There was no point in the whole FB arc or this series called Bleach in general. [/fact] |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| is it just me or did hitsugaya surpass the impossible by becoming even more bishie than he was? |
ElMorty said: So funny hearing somebody say that the point of this arc was NOT Ichigo getting his power back ... everybody would keep saying "this way you will get your shinigami powers back", "your shinigami power fusing with your new fullbring will lead to a far stronger source of power" .... Aizen also said that Ichigo has no reiatsu, which was bullshit not-true. Ukitake said that shinigami badge is just a representation of him being shinigami substitute, which was also bullshit. The training was about regaining his powers. But the story itself was not. Reading comprehension involves no longer taking everything someone says at face value. ElMorty said: but no, it's not all about Ichigo, the main chara, who is now defenseless, getting his power (ANY power) back in order to be able to fight again ... His desperation for power was part of plot and might as well play the role, considering how SS might react to him seeking hollow-power intentionally. SS certainly has some ominous interest in it going by badge's dialogue. ElMorty said: the main chara loses his power and cannot compete with the weakest of his enemies ... the result is: next arc will alternatively lead to the end of the manga, or to the main chara being able to fight again, with any power available Yes, Ichigo's motivation was about regaining the power. However storytelling did not portray that power as power up. Did you decade ago complain that "omg greymon evolved into skullgreymon and now they throw away that power up for a new form one episode later, omg stupid"? The portrayal of this was not about power up itself. ElMorty said: Lacking reading comprehension does not prevent me to comprehend this, because it is something one doesn't need even to read half a chapter to know ... explains why you can't comprehend it. ElMorty said: That said, @Hypno-girl: about your theory regarding SS reproaching Ichigo something ... it's really interesting, and would give a purpose to this whole arc! Only, I couldn't find anything supporting this theory in any chapter ... if you know any, would you please report me any scene doing so? the badge dialogue implying Rukia was at conflict of opinion over something Ichigo has done and ginjou's ominous glance at that. The fact that SS is VERY strict on executing anyone who pursues hollow powers intentionally and fb is a hollow-nature power. The fact that SS has people like Mayuri who would more than likely support condemnation of Ichigo, both due to grudge and so he can't intrude on his plot of what he found in hm. ElMorty said: And also, I'm yet not that sure that Ichigo is the strongest in the Gotei 13: I don't know much about SS hierarchy, but captain grandpa should be part of it, and captain grab-ass and captain tuberculosis are surly in it! And I wouldn't be that sure that Ichigo is stronger than them! ^^ BASE-Aizen blitzed and one-hit-ko'd Shunsui, Ukitake, Shinji, etc. Base Aizen dealt with Yamamoto's most powerful pre-bankai attack and tanked it. Dangai-Ichigo played around Seraphim-Aizen who is 3 forms above base aizen. Dangai Ichigo played around Monster-Aizen who is 4 forms above base aizen. Yama is powerful and a powerhouse but he is nowhere near Ichigo's current height of power. ElMorty said: Other thing: it's known if all FB user are on the same side as Ginjou and Tsukushima: it was once said by Ginjou that FB user need a half shinigami half FB user in order to free themselves from their FB powers, which are related to the hollow world ... but now I guess Ichigo's not able to do such a thing anymore, since his FB has been stolen! So what use is to Ginjou stealing is power is still unknown ... "hunger of power"? Maybe ... maybe not! And you failed to notice that this implies that Ginjou IS half-shinigami how? only shinigami/fb hybrid can steal fb powers -> ginjou steals Ichigo's fb -> Ginjou is shinigami-fb-hybrid he told Ichigo Tsuki killed. ElMorty said: About this arc being useless: I now think the only interesting thing about it could be Ginjou and Tsukushima's connection with the kurosakis and SS ... but everything else just seems to me without any purpose (I didn't see any development in Ichigo's character, nor in anyone else's, and the introduction from charas other then Ginjou and Tsukushima doesn't seem so important ...) Badge - which has been hinted to have a big importance ever since ukitake gave it to him. God-knows-what-the-fb-goal-is. Isshin backstory possibility. One of biggest mysteries in manga, the kurosaki family background revealed a bit in this arc's future(as kurosaki family background is what kubo listed as one of the gamechangers on how one would view entire plot, others being stuff like aizen's connection to isshin and badge and etc). ElMorty said: Still I've got this impression that everything is a bit 'too cumbersome, and could have been easily simplified! You are talking about mangaka who re-created the major plotpoints of new testament through karakura-arc. :) Montrovant1488 said: I don't know why I keep reading this shit, Ichigo's so over-powered it doesn't make sense, I think I deign reading this out of a sense of morbidity, and to re-affirm my believe that this will end as a piece of crap. (After Aizen, Bleach lost its Raison d'Etre, otherwise I wouldn't be calling this a piece of shit, and to all butthurts out there, you can take two more inches, as you are free to show your fanboyism I am free to take a dump on it). I love how people like this one seem to conveniently forget that Ichigo will need to face cosmic horrors like royal guards and soul king(aka the thing that is connected to ENTIRE UNIVERSE) latter on... Aizen is the disk-one boss who latter on helps the hero. SK is the real badguy out there. |
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Crouchez said: Merue said: yachiru wasnt there so ikkaku is new lieutenant of 11th, happy for ikkaku~ Actually if you look closely there's hair flowing behind Kenpachi, so it could be her... I think that's Hozukimaru's hair at then of the hilt. I think i did see a Lieutenant badge on his right arm if you look closely, but that's just me. |
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| DAAAAAMMMMNNN ITTTT ALLLLL!!!! I might be the only one who thinks this at this point, but I don't like where this is going. The entrance of the other Shinigamis just says that this could possibly ANOTHER Shinigami vs another reiatsu race like every other filler arc have done so far. While I'm glad to see Renji again and Byakuya is ok, seeing Hitsugaya, Kenpachi and Ikkaku (Seriously, Ikkaku) was not wanted. Please, don't make this worse. |
ReaperEXE said: Hypno-girl said: He's about to use Getsuga Tensho, isn't that enough?We do not have enough information yet to assure that this new blade is Zangetsu but from the look of it it look like an 'empty zanpakuto' just like I said. Of course Hypno-Girl, you don't know what I was talking about in my first reply, do you ? Whaaaaaat ??? Mr Fay ??? you are here !!!....I thought you were hidden in a trash can !! So What's up Einstein ??? the last chapter seems interesting, doesn't it ? just like you expected it..."giggle" |
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ElMorty said: Okay Fai, I really don't get why you can't agree that the point of this arc was Ichigo getting his power back ... I think it's quite plain, actually: If the last arc finished with the main chara losing his power, the next one will lead to, or move through, or at least involve the main chara taking it back, one way or another. I never ever talked about portrayals or any such complicated thing: in one arc the main chara loses his power, the next one(s) will be the arc(s) which he will get some power back. There's almost even no need of reading that(those) arc(s) to be sure about it ... That is, put briefly, an "arc whose point is the main chara getting his power back" ... no. This arc is about Isshin, kurosaki family and fullbringers, all of that unfolding while main character gets his powers back. ElMorty said: And if he can, why make it so tragic when he did use it losing his power? To further him as character. Ever Since the very start we had this whole normal stuff and this arc so far gave us a lot of insight on why ichigo acts as he does and what power means to him. ElMorty said: Regarding your theory about SS being against Ichigo and Gotei 13 being split between those supporting him and those supporting SS's condamn: wow, those that Rukia's heard saying back then are very few words on which you are building your theory... not split. Not talking civil war stuff. Those guys most likely did it secretly(giving ichigo powers back), hence the...secrecy about the whole thing. We know SS is ruthless on those who pursue hollow power. Ichigo did that and we still do not know what badge is. He might have unknowingly did something way worse. ElMorty said: I mean, I've never had any reason to think that SS was the bad guys: Aizen was quite a badass foe, with wrong principles, whereas SS represented order, even though in a rather strict way ... What reason do you have to think it's the other way around? O___O SS in itself is based around medieval japan, which in itself was highly nationalistic authoritarian regime. Going by shonen logic and genre, aizen represents change, urahara represents stagnation and gotei 13 represents conservative views. Aizen had a very right(by shonen genre ideals) ideals - one should try to change the world according to how one sees it as injust or wrong. Urahara on other hand takes passive approach - changing the world is pointless, impossible, you should not even try and give up. What Aizen had was wrong means, which fits with fallen hero trope. He had a great goal, but he lost the rightful road towards it. ElMorty said: ( also, why should the soul king "aka the thing that is connected to the entire universe" be the bad guy? .-. ) Because the mere sight of that thing turned Aizen from generic genius into a madman on road of changing the world? Because of by what was implied, a man of Urahara's intellect should have been horrified by the Soul King and wanted to change how things are - something Urahara did not disagree with, instead of pointing out that such actions would be pointless. Also. color spread of chapter 428, depicting the "path" of Ichigo's battles. (in the spoiler below) The opponents Ichigo defeated are looking towards the viewer and lined in the row of order in which they were faced. Both Ichigo and Aizen however are looking towards same direction away from the viewer towards something which is a huge shadow way way above them A last question: which arc was kurakara's? Gotei 13 vs Aizen and his espadas? Aizen's road from the start of karakura battle to his defeat and dialogue lines, design, and things he survived, one can see very prominent motifs like spearing of jesus christ, lucifer's fall from grace(his six-winger "seraphim-like" form becoming into a "beast with seven heads" who then gets bound till the promised day). Heck even espada fits the whole thing of "devil buying those in mankind and engraving his numbers upon them" stuff. Then we have the ongoing motiffs of divinity/sun-cross on Aizen and Ichigo designs (swastika is divinity or divine right, same as the sun cross, the symbol aizen had on his chest) |
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| God damn. Even though the storyline is kind of steroid power-up style, I was pretty hyped up about Ichigo getting all his powers that he used to defeat Aizen back.... No one can defeat him anymore :D |
| eh only good thing was seeing the shinigamis again. this whole arc just seems pointless if they were going to help him regain his powers anyway. Ginjou and the other loser seem so outclassed at this point. |
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mystik said: eh only good thing was seeing the shinigamis again. this whole arc just seems pointless if they were going to help him regain his powers anyway. Ginjou and the other loser seem so outclassed at this point. Me too I thought like that but, the interest of this arc is What Ginjo will do with the fullbring of Itchigo It is obvious he will find a way to escape...the classic scenario !!! |
| It was good to see the others. |
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| And to think I was starting to hate Bleach. This chapter was really good. It looks like Kubo can make Bleach's ratings be in the top 3 soon again. And I sort of liked the hairstyles but I understand how weird it was to see it when they've had their hair like that for hundreds of years. But remember that manga/anime needs some sort of fan service sometimes. |
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| Also. wouldn't it be cool if Ichigo became weak all over again and had to become strong again since he lost his powers. I think that would be a good plot seeing how he was Over Powered when he fought Aizen and somehow within a year of getting his powers he was stronger than people who fought for hundreds of years -_-. I just think if he would have to attain Bankai and work his way up again it would be cool. If he's just as strong or stronger than he was when he fought Aizen, then they'd have to make another Over powered villain and Ichigo would be stronger than almost everyone in soul society(except Captain Commander Genryuusai or whatever his name was). |
"There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
| I wonder who that hair behind Kenpachi belongs to. Is it just me or did Toushiro get a little bit taller? |
amenboy972 said: ReaperEXE said: Hypno-girl said: He's about to use Getsuga Tensho, isn't that enough?We do not have enough information yet to assure that this new blade is Zangetsu but from the look of it it look like an 'empty zanpakuto' just like I said. Of course Hypno-Girl, you don't know what I was talking about in my first reply, do you ? Whaaaaaat ??? Mr Fay ??? you are here !!!....I thought you were hidden in a trash can !! So What's up Einstein ??? the last chapter seems interesting, doesn't it ? just like you expected it..."giggle" I love your idiocy. Isshin used Getsuga Tenshou and his sword is called Engetsu, not Zangetsu. See what I did there? CrystalTsubaki said: I wonder who that hair behind Kenpachi belongs to. Is it just me or did Toushiro get a little bit taller? For you and everyone else, the 'hair' behind Kenpachi is simply the fur (or whatever it is) that is attached to Ikaku's shikai. Dangai-Ichigo is not a form, people should get that out of their mind. It is not something that he can use, it is something that he became. It is when Ichigo achieved total control over his Zanpakuto, he didn't got more powerfull, he just fully controled the power he had which was enormous since the very start. Ichigo is still at Dangai level. Also people need to stop thinking that SS = Gotei 13/everything shinigami related Gotei 13 is simply a part of SS. From what we were shown yet other than the Gotei 13 there is the royal palace, central 46 and the Kido corp and I wouldn't be surprised if there is other section to SS. If central 46 say that they want Ichigo dead because he did the unforgivable act of seeking hollow power then even the captain commander have no word to say in the matter. That's why he was ready to execute Rukia in SS arc when he most probably thought like everyone that this was an unpropriate punishement. Order are absolute in SS. The gotei 13 is actually divided in 4 part according to the recent evenement. -Those that despise Ichigo and do not mind having him killed -Those that feel betrayed by Ichigo because of their hatred of everything hollow related. -Those that like Ichigo but not at the extent of betraying SS. -Those that trust Ichigo and see him as a comrade/friend. Obviously there will be a mess. Ichigo is seen as a hero by lot of people in the Gotei 13, the allmighty shinigami that fought on par and won against the worst ennemy SS ever faced, aka Aizen. Some people will rejoice, some people will hate Ichigo, some people will find the decision unfair and some other will decide to fight this decision. Just like Fai said, Rukia heard what Ichigo had done as it was showed in the badge scene, she then mobilized people that she knew would trust Ichigo and went to the world of the living to help him. Everyone of them have a motivation and a reason to trust Ichigo and everyone of them consider Ichigo's punishement as something unfair. From left to right: Ikaku: Look up to Ichigo since the moment he got defeated by him, he bragged about him and trusted that he could overcome anything that would stay in his way since the SS arc. In Zaraki's squad, power and fairfight is respect and he respect Ichigo on that matter. Zaraki: Power is everything to him and Ichigo got it. Zaraki for sure wouldn't want his best fighting buddy to get executed before actually having a fight with him, it's not hard to see why Zaraki would side with Ichigo actually. Hitsugaya: Developed a bond with Ichigo in the arrancar arc. Ichigo is also the one that defeated Aizen so it would be hard for Hitsugaya to not be thankfull to him. He is also a kid and despise unfairness when it happen to someone he know. Byakuya: Since the end of SS arc Byakuya is kind of indebted to Ichigo. To Byakuya, rule and respect are his most important values so he must actually be the one that had the hardest time to chose to follow Rukia's plan. In one side Ichigo must be punished but in the other he is indebted to him. I wouldn't be surprised if he came only to give Ichigo a mean to fight and will go away pretty soon to follow SS's order again. Rukia-Renji: Obvious reason, they fought against SS back in SS arc, they wouldn't abandon Ichigo now. They knew that Ginjou would steal Ichigo's FB (most probably by Isshin that very likely had past experience with Ginjou) so they waited for him to steal his FB. That way Ichigo would be pure, clear of any hollow related power and they will then give him back shinigami power through Urahara's invention. They might think that'll be enough to make SS forgive Ichigo and it might be true but we have actually no way to know yet. Before someone start claiming that there's nothing suporting what I just said then know that it's just logic developed from what we already know since the very start of the manga. It might not happen but it will very unlikely contradict what will actually happen. It is 10% speculation, 90% logic. |
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| An epic chapter, but this entire arc still doesn't please me. Just gonna rough it out till it ends. |
| The cameos of the captains is the only thing that made this chapter worth reading. |
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| damn i was hoping renji and ikaku got promoted to captains already |
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