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Aug 19, 2011 10:43 AM

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I knew Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I'm glad to see my dream match which I thought would never happen, in spite of it being so short. If Madara wasn't so hax with the MS and Rinnegan, there would be no one left alive that could beat him, except maybe Sasuke with his new eyes. I wonder if Sasuke will be Itachi's undoing?

The chapter actually wasn't that great. But being the obvious Itachi fanboy that I know that I am. I really enjoyed it. Other than Itachi being a badass. I enjoyed Naruto's admission of stupidity. And Itachi being baffled that Naruto is still alive after facing Nagato.
Aug 19, 2011 10:56 AM

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n10sity said:
I knew Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I'm glad to see my dream match which I thought would never happen, in spite of it being so short. If Madara wasn't so hax with the MS and Rinnegan, there would be no one left alive that could beat him, except maybe Sasuke with his new eyes. I wonder if Sasuke will be Itachi's undoing?


Considering they weren't even fighting one against one i don't get where you even get to such conclusions.
And there is no undoing because his already dead.
Aug 19, 2011 11:44 AM

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Monad said:
n10sity said:
I knew Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I'm glad to see my dream match which I thought would never happen, in spite of it being so short. If Madara wasn't so hax with the MS and Rinnegan, there would be no one left alive that could beat him, except maybe Sasuke with his new eyes. I wonder if Sasuke will be Itachi's undoing?


Considering they weren't even fighting one against one i don't get where you even get to such conclusions.
And there is no undoing because his already dead.


Arguments can be made. There's no way to say who would have won beyond a doubt. But it seems equally far-fetched to me to say that Naruto or Killer Bee had much of anything to do with the conclusion of that fight. It was basically one on one which is why I made that opinionated statement. If you want to say that the fight was inconclusive. That's fine.
Aug 19, 2011 12:47 PM

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n10sity said:
Monad said:
n10sity said:
I knew Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I'm glad to see my dream match which I thought would never happen, in spite of it being so short. If Madara wasn't so hax with the MS and Rinnegan, there would be no one left alive that could beat him, except maybe Sasuke with his new eyes. I wonder if Sasuke will be Itachi's undoing?


Considering they weren't even fighting one against one i don't get where you even get to such conclusions.
And there is no undoing because his already dead.


Arguments can be made. There's no way to say who would have won beyond a doubt. But it seems equally far-fetched to me to say that Naruto or Killer Bee had much of anything to do with the conclusion of that fight. It was basically one on one which is why I made that opinionated statement. If you want to say that the fight was inconclusive. That's fine.


Wasn't Nagato's technique broken because they combined their most powerful attacks? How can you say that they didn't do anything? Actually if you think about it like that, the only conclusion you can get is that Nagato is the stronger one because his powerful technique is stronger than Itachi's powerful technique since Itachi needed a lot more power than his own to break Nagato's technique. So Itachi's power alone wasn't enough compared to Nagto's power alone.
You can even say inconclusive or that Nagato might be stronger from what we saw but saying Itachi is stronger is completely hot air out of nothing with no evidence what so ever. An opinionated statement must have at least some kind of logic forming that opinion and yours has none.
Aug 19, 2011 1:17 PM

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Monad said:
Wasn't Nagato's technique broken because they combined their most powerful attacks? How can you say that they didn't do anything? Actually if you think about it like that, the only conclusion you can get is that Nagato is the stronger one because his powerful technique is stronger than Itachi's powerful technique since Itachi needed a lot more power than his own to break Nagato's technique. So Itachi's power alone wasn't enough compared to Nagto's power alone.
You can even say inconclusive or that Nagato might be stronger from what we saw but saying Itachi is stronger is completely hot air out of nothing with no evidence what so ever. An opinionated statement must have at least some kind of logic forming that opinion and yours has none.

I respect your opinion but all these conclusions are based on "who you think most powerful is" and we won't get a proper explanation from Kishi ever. now based on what i think, i would say itachi is stronger because of his gen-jutsu. he can cast jutsu with just his finger ring and Nagato is weak against normal gen-jutsu. we saw in jiraiya fight. that voice gen-jutsu from frogs is nothing compared to itachi sharingan. not to mention his tsukoyome and amaterasu (the only reason nagato escaped amaterasu earlier in this fight because he was immortal). itachi got help from naruto and bee because it was easy way to finish this fight without putting an extra effort and try to finish everything by himself, otherwise he can get away from nagato jutsu easily. (now that is my opinion and no disrespect towards nagato. both are my favorites)

And i'm replying to user-a vs user-b fan discussion. even though i know it's useless in the end. xD
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Aug 19, 2011 5:03 PM

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Wow. That last page made me laugh. Even if not intentional, it was still funny. XD
Aug 19, 2011 9:03 PM
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n10sity said:
I knew Itachi was stronger than Nagato.
I didn't see Itachi being stronger than Nagato. They fought 3 to 1 and it didn't seem that any of them could have defeated Nagato alone.
Edit: Nevertheless, Itachi is a monster considering he's so young and ninja's doesn't seem to peak until their thirties.

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Itachi probably won't last past the next chapter, I really hope I'm wrong though.
Don't jinx it. Itachi joining the main cast has been the best thing yet in the war arc(s?). It'd be a shame if it didn't made it past the chapter.


they went through the trouble of killing nagato and reviving itachi. killing him off would be bad writing, especially since he is as powerful as ever. it also seems his eyes are fully healed.


The only "bad" thing is that you people don't realize that the writing never let any hope of him actually sticking around. His gonna be gone in the next few chapters and that's it.
When it's so obvious from the start that his only temporary here for a little time, i just can't understand how you people can read this staff and don't see the obvious.
You create false hopes and theories in your mind based on a complete lack of understanding on what you read and then you shout of disappointment and bad writing when things don't go along with your false logic.
You seriously need to stop assuming everyone is as angry as you, and says stuff for the same reasons you would. Like, now. It's becoming an habit. And It ends up reading like nonsense talk.

It was never obvious that the crow would be used to free Itachi, or that he would be free in the first place. The author could return to the obvious path, or maybe do something different, like keeping him alive. The easy route is like you say, but writing choices are as open as the author wants them to be.

We know the war will drag on, that Naruto and Sasuke will face off, that Madara and Kabuto will die at the end. Everything else is speculation, obviously.
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Aug 20, 2011 4:31 PM

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Monad said:
Wasn't Nagato's technique broken because they combined their most powerful attacks? How can you say that they didn't do anything? Actually if you think about it like that, the only conclusion you can get is that Nagato is the stronger one because his powerful technique is stronger than Itachi's powerful technique since Itachi needed a lot more power than his own to break Nagato's technique. So Itachi's power alone wasn't enough compared to Nagto's power alone.
You can even say inconclusive or that Nagato might be stronger from what we saw but saying Itachi is stronger is completely hot air out of nothing with no evidence what so ever. An opinionated statement must have at least some kind of logic forming that opinion and yours has none.


Where did it say all three attacks were needed to destroy it? You're drawing conclusions from nothing as well. At least I admit my statements of being bias. If the proof is in the pudding, then how can you say Nagato was stronger when Itachi sealed him away? Rather effortlessly after Nagato's Celestrial Terra Blast was destroyed. Arguments can be made that Itachi could have easily done that while Nagato was distracted fighting Killer Bee and Naruto. If you say Itachi isn't stronger, that's cool. I really don't have enough evidence to make a real case. But you don't have enough evidence either to make a case the other way. I drew conclusions that I wanted from very little. And you are doing the same.
Aug 20, 2011 6:45 PM

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n10sity said:
Monad said:
Wasn't Nagato's technique broken because they combined their most powerful attacks? How can you say that they didn't do anything? Actually if you think about it like that, the only conclusion you can get is that Nagato is the stronger one because his powerful technique is stronger than Itachi's powerful technique since Itachi needed a lot more power than his own to break Nagato's technique. So Itachi's power alone wasn't enough compared to Nagto's power alone.
You can even say inconclusive or that Nagato might be stronger from what we saw but saying Itachi is stronger is completely hot air out of nothing with no evidence what so ever. An opinionated statement must have at least some kind of logic forming that opinion and yours has none.



Where did it say all three attacks were needed to destroy it? You're drawing conclusions from nothing as well. At least I admit my statements of being bias. If the proof is in the pudding, then how can you say Nagato was stronger when Itachi sealed him away? Rather effortlessly after Nagato's Celestrial Terra Blast was destroyed. Arguments can be made that Itachi could have easily done that while Nagato was distracted fighting Killer Bee and Naruto. If you say Itachi isn't stronger, that's cool. I really don't have enough evidence to make a real case. But you don't have enough evidence either to make a case the other way. I drew conclusions that I wanted from very little. And you are doing the same.


I don't need to say that Nagato's is stronger because that was never my argument. The above argument about their technique was just to show that your assumption was completely far away and it was actually even easier to assume the exact opposite. Is not like am keen to prove Nagato is stronger or anything.
I simply found your statements not equivalent to the facts shown. Basically what you admitted now about not calling the facts as you saw them.
Since now you say you had some kind of bias in your statements and assumptions(Itachi fan?) then i rest my case. We both have found common ground.
Aug 20, 2011 6:57 PM

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I pretty much said I was bias from the beginning but okay.
Aug 20, 2011 10:42 PM

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Great chapter, I've been waiting for this kind of momentum
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Aug 21, 2011 5:52 PM

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That is no way in hell that can be kishimoto's translation. I call BS on that. Why would he say something bad bout his own story..

Anyone actually have the real translation of this.

"be so steller that everyone forgets how horrible the 2nd part was naruto"

It might be the fact that part 2 is ending, meaning hurricane chronicles is coming to a close well the third and final part is beginning. But i really don't believe that last line. Thats to negative to be from kishimoto himself.



Aug 22, 2011 3:20 AM
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The chapter was nice!
Aug 22, 2011 7:00 AM

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lol @ Naruto "I'm such a moron" why yes, yes you are.
Aug 22, 2011 7:10 PM

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grandy_UiD said:
Itachi does things LIKE A BOSS.

Kaydee-san said:

Itachi probably won't last past the next chapter, I really hope I'm wrong though.

I have this same feeling, too.

I'm afraid he won't stay part of the fighting force. He's just way too powerful for Kishi to have him around. He's gonna write him out of the story soon I think. Probably with Itachi sacrificing himself or something stupid like that.


^That
Aug 23, 2011 11:10 PM

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omg..i'm so in love with itachi~~ <3
Aug 26, 2011 5:03 PM

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it was nice to see nagato and itachi again, now we say good bye to nagato again (or will he be back again?!?)
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Nagato was amazing!
You're wrong man, your path wasn't good but you were cool.
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This was a pretty interesting fight




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