Clevatess: Majuu no Ou to Akago to Shikabane no Yuusha Episode 4 Discussion

Lol… so what exactly made her lose weight? Why does she have no waist anymore? If Clevatess used body parts from a fridge shaped overweight bandit and a literal troll, why is she now an hourglass figure? This does not make sense for the story and is extremely corny. I’m sad cause I was really enjoying this.

Pretty big eye roll at the revival making Nell hot. This show was already on the line between trashy power fantasy and dark fantasy, and that was definitely a point against.

Wow, it's impressive how some people can take a story about a physically abused girl who gets healed and given an attractive body as a reward for her kind heart and treat it as a bad thing.

@Dracom in-universe, not a bad thing. Out of universe, why did the author decide she needs to be hot in order to join the party? Why didn't Alicia get her eye back if Clevatess can heal someone to a better state than they had before?

There's no problem with healing someone who's hurt, but you do open a can of worms by healing someone to a state we've never seen them in before - and that's ignoring the fact that this decision strongly suggests the author isn't looking to do anything new or interesting with the characters when any physical harm they've faced in the past can be undone simply becuase it's convenient to the plot aesthetics of the show

Damn, being Alicia sure look painful.


@JorryRoger Alicia was dead and resurected, her eye was probably completely gone when Clev brought her back to life. Nell was dying but not dead yet and this time Clev took the time to patch her up with somes bits lying around.
Out of universe, there is almost no manga or anime character that are not hot in some extent. Nell looked bad because she was not healthy at all, now she is more healthy than ever so she's hot.

As someone who was recently certified as a beginner scuba diver, I'm mildly disappointed they didn't address the incredible ear pain that Alicia would've gone through while descending underwater roughly 100 feet or more (I'm only certified to dive down to about 66 feet), especially since she doesn't know how to equalize the ear pressure (hold your nose and blow, and the air should be forced into your sinuses). Also, she would've been in incredible pain when she ascended so rapidly. A normal human almost certainly would've died. The speed limit for ascending is 10 m (33 feet) per MINUTE.

But, I'm super happy that she left the bandits to die! Most shows would have the hero rescue the bad guys, but here, they got what they deserved!

So yeah, long term I'm gonna prefer a "fixed up" Nell 'cause she's just gonna be easier to listen to...but in-universe, the healing fixing her to this extent doesn't make any sense based on what has been said previously. The whole "can't heal what's totally gone" thing precludes fixing her teeth for example, and if years of abuse made her face permanently lumpy, it doesn't make sense that this healing would erase that rather than putting it back to its "normal" state of being all lumpy. Anyone trying to say it makes any kinda sense is grasping; you should just admit that it's nicer to have more attractive characters and move on. That's the long and short of why the author ignored their own in-universe healing rules...they introduced her lumpy and then changed their mind and decided they wanted a more appealing character, so they hand-waved it. Boom, done.

What happened to Vroko is literally what happened in my D&D session. Invisibility spell? Good luck walking with your plate armor- wait, you carry the crying baby too. Stupid, but in a funny way.

I still can't wrap up how Nell/Nellele revived while Alicia is temporarily offed. I guess I missed out some lore logic here, but seeing that guy being humiliated while being invisible is satisfying. The plot is still too slow for me, but I'll keep watching it.

As someone who was recently certified as a beginner scuba diver, I'm mildly disappointed they didn't address the incredible ear pain that Alicia would've gone through while descending underwater roughly 100 feet or more (I'm only certified to dive down to about 66 feet), especially since she doesn't know how to equalize the ear pressure (hold your nose and blow, and the air should be forced into your sinuses). Also, she would've been in incredible pain when she ascended so rapidly. A normal human almost certainly would've died. The speed limit for ascending is 10 m (33 feet) per MINUTE.

But, I'm super happy that she left the bandits to die! Most shows would have the hero rescue the bad guys, but here, they got what they deserved!

Lol… so what exactly made her lose weight? Why does she have no waist anymore? If Clevatess used body parts from a fridge shaped overweight bandit and a literal troll, why is she now an hourglass figure? This does not make sense for the story and is extremely corny. I’m sad cause I was really enjoying this.

@ArthurBedlam You're really going to sad over something so stupid and minuscule? God, you're a crybaby.

Lol… so what exactly made her lose weight? Why does she have no waist anymore? If Clevatess used body parts from a fridge shaped overweight bandit and a literal troll, why is she now an hourglass figure? This does not make sense for the story and is extremely corny. I’m sad cause I was really enjoying this.

@ArthurBedlam She did not lose weight, she was probably swollen from all the beating she took over the years, plus all the hormonal alteration from all her failed pregnancies.

All of that was removed, and she became a normal girl.

I just don't get why is this upsetting people. Honestly. How is this the most important plot of this episode?

Anime community has gone down the hills.

A magical and dark creature becomes human, nothing wrong here, a chubby beaten down human becomes a normies, "OMG THIS ANIME IS SO BAD".

After the ep I was thinking about how her healing worked and being restored to a state as if she had never been through such abuse does make sense. Except one thing. Her pregnancies. Clen specifically wanted her as a nursemaid for Luna because she'd already had a bunch of kids and could produce milk. If she's reverted to a state where she's not been as abused, it seems likely that her ability to produce milk would be impacted. I'm sure the show/manga ignores it and she still can "because magic" but it would be an interesting plot point for something that Clen/Clevatess didn't take into consideration. Seeing how frankly uninformed he is about humans in general, it makes sense.

how tf is the hero alive at the end there? i'm so lost