The Fragrant Flower Blooms With Dignity
| With all due respect, you are currently setting an impossibly high standard for critique. You can absolutely judge the first forty minutes of a TV show on the basic merits of first experience alone. The idea that you have to somehow know all characters before critiquing any characters is also just so wrong that it makes me wonder why anyone would ever think this to be the case. I am not denying that there is criticism here that is overtly and disproportionately negative, as is the case with everything, but when it comes to superficiality, I have seen it mainly from people attacking those who critique this show. Again, as is the case with everything, there are idiots who attack this story for things it never tried to be, but this itself is nothing special. What you are doing right now is critiquing a negative response to a work you love on a primarily emotional basis, which is ironically enough the exact kind of position most haters are in. I am not denying that this anime will be great, I haven't read the source material, and still I can critique this show for being anything but engaging right now. The same goes for its characters, though they might be phenomenal later down the line, right now they simply are not, and that I can and will critique. A story can be phenomenal and still have a bad start, and that start you can critique no matter how great this story later turns out to be. Lastly, please don't try to "both sides" what you are saying when talking about jumping to conclusions. You very clearly do not care about people giving it a 10 after just two episodes as much as you do about people giving it a 1. There are, as of writing this, 7612 users who rated this show a 10/10 and 190 users who rated it a 1/10, and yet you spent this post attacking the latter of those two groups. You are not concerned with jumping to conclusions, you simply do not like the conclusion people are jumping to. |
| Hello, please don't take anything I say as an insult, it is not meant as an attack against you as a person. If I directly disagree with you, that does not mean I think you are wrong, I am just more correct. |
| Characters aren't believable. It's a drama for 9 year olds. If you're going to make something this simplistic and dumb where girls get assaulted any time they go out at night or stand in front of a school, it should at least have explosions and people jumping 30 feet in the air shouting combat moves. |
| Probably guys are trying it due to the high score not realizing it is essentially for women. Kind of like Fruits Basket. |
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| It's very popular. Some people try to establish themselves as independent connoisseurs by criticizing what is popular. |
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| I've only noticed a few people calling it overhyped, other then that I'm not seeing this show getting much hate at all... |
  MAL is the perfect place to shit talk about people's opinions. |
Reply to Stanis150
The answer is very simple - manga readers overrated this anime to an absolutely cosmic scale, giving it a 10/10 rating only after the first episode.
Such a rating obviously attracts the attention of viewers unfamiliar with the original.
They watch this first episode and see the most banal and simple school romance ever.
After that, they have the feeling that they were blatantly deceived and, accordingly, a feeling of anger at this.
Fin.
P.s For comparison, Oshi no Ko was also overrated at the start, but there the first episode gave the basis and reason for this, but here in this anime is nothing (right now) to justify so high score.
Such a rating obviously attracts the attention of viewers unfamiliar with the original.
They watch this first episode and see the most banal and simple school romance ever.
After that, they have the feeling that they were blatantly deceived and, accordingly, a feeling of anger at this.
Fin.
P.s For comparison, Oshi no Ko was also overrated at the start, but there the first episode gave the basis and reason for this, but here in this anime is nothing (right now) to justify so high score.
| @Stanis150 You pretty much nailed it! When are manga/light novel fans ever gonna learn to stop overhyping a anime with their 10/10 ratings right as soon as 1 or 2 episodes are out... Same with anime only watchers coming in with such high expectations, only to be disappointed it ain't not masterpiece straight out of the gate. Have we REALLY not learnt anything from Chainsaw Man people?! |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
Reply to rohan121
Probably guys are trying it due to the high score not realizing it is essentially for women. Kind of like Fruits Basket.
| @rohan121 This is very obviously the case, though I still think you can critique almost all shojo (and obviously also shōnen) anime for functioning through stereotyping and self-insert protagonists, without utilizing them to critique the viewer's behaviour and perspectives. Fruits Basket is one of the best Shojos ever made, and even it falls just so slightly into the pit hole of male characters existing for the female protagonist. We should not critique The Fragrant Flower Blooms with Dignity for not being a thing it never tried to be, but we can most certainly critique it for what it chose to be. (just quickly mentioning, this is not at all my main problem with this anime, as I think, no matter if you compare it to shōnen, seinen, shojo or josei, its beginning is comparatively boring.) |
| Hello, please don't take anything I say as an insult, it is not meant as an attack against you as a person. If I directly disagree with you, that does not mean I think you are wrong, I am just more correct. |
Reply to rohan121
Probably guys are trying it due to the high score not realizing it is essentially for women. Kind of like Fruits Basket.
rohan121 said: Is this series from a Shoujo/Josei magazine? For some reason I thought it was from a Seinen mangaProbably guys are trying it due to the high score not realizing it is essentially for women. Kind of like Fruits Basket. |
| When things get popular, and liked. The more hate it'll get. There is SOME overhype, but not as some are saying. As I can tell it's more a taste thing. People want action and suspense. Not a school romance. While I love the series, as been reading it for ages. But even I can see that this is gonna be a matter of taste, due to how popular its getting. To which of course, people don't read things, in order to see if a show is for them. |
Reply to Piromysl
Inuuu said:
tldr
it got overpraised by manga readers and casual watchers got mad when they watched 1-2 episodes that turned to be a normal show so they felt scammed
it's the same case with every popular title in the beginning but sometimes, like now, it gets blown out of the propotions
tldr
it got overpraised by manga readers and casual watchers got mad when they watched 1-2 episodes that turned to be a normal show so they felt scammed
it's the same case with every popular title in the beginning but sometimes, like now, it gets blown out of the propotions
Dunno where people get this idea that this was being overhyped, while we got exactly what we were promised and expectations were met. It is nothing like Shikimori situation, where people were promising THE next big thing and a potential AOTS, but what we got was below average trash, which was bad on fundamental level.
We were promised a very good romance story, with captivating cast, that the audience will be invested in and that's exactly what we got.
| >It is nothing like Shikimori situation, where people were promising THE next big thing and a potential AOTS I can't tell if you are being serious with this, but I saw people hyping up this series even before getting an anime announced as one of the best romances ever, it isn't helped by the fact that almost every single aggregation site you can check has it as one of the highest rated romance manga if not the highest rated, unless for some reason you literally live under a rock, this was and it still is hyped as one of the best romance ever and a potential AOTS. |
| Here, I've got you. This show vaulted up to one of the highest rated shows on the site. People check it out expecting something fantastic as a result, and are just treated to what is ultimately just a decent vanilla romance. The gap between expectations and reality leads to hate. You see it with every high rated/critically acclaimed show. People get disappointed when their experience doesn't match the hype and they react from there. |
Ionliosite2 said: >It is nothing like Shikimori situation, where people were promising THE next big thing and a potential AOTS I can't tell if you are being serious with this, but I saw people hyping up this series even before getting an anime announced as one of the best romances ever, it isn't helped by the fact that almost every single aggregation site you can check has it as one of the highest rated romance manga if not the highest rated, unless for some reason you literally live under a rock, this was and it still is hyped as one of the best romance ever and a potential AOTS. Are those people in the room with us right now? In May 2025 this anime was sitting at measely 30th spot at Top Upcoming Anime with 63k members. That's lower than seasonal isekai trash. If anyone was hyped for it, it's probably because CloverWorks is behind it, which is one of the better studios out there and guarantees quality. Meanwhile, Shikimori in March 2022 was sitting at 13th spot with 93k members. Incomparable. |
PiromyslJul 20, 2:50 AM
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| Disagreeing with your opinion does not mean hate. |
| If these 2 episodes already bore you then it's better if you don't continue. It will not get more exciting than episode 2 and I don't mean it in a bad way. This is what you will get until the end of season. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
Reply to Stanis150
The answer is very simple - manga readers overrated this anime to an absolutely cosmic scale, giving it a 10/10 rating only after the first episode.
Such a rating obviously attracts the attention of viewers unfamiliar with the original.
They watch this first episode and see the most banal and simple school romance ever.
After that, they have the feeling that they were blatantly deceived and, accordingly, a feeling of anger at this.
Fin.
P.s For comparison, Oshi no Ko was also overrated at the start, but there the first episode gave the basis and reason for this, but here in this anime is nothing (right now) to justify so high score.
Such a rating obviously attracts the attention of viewers unfamiliar with the original.
They watch this first episode and see the most banal and simple school romance ever.
After that, they have the feeling that they were blatantly deceived and, accordingly, a feeling of anger at this.
Fin.
P.s For comparison, Oshi no Ko was also overrated at the start, but there the first episode gave the basis and reason for this, but here in this anime is nothing (right now) to justify so high score.
| @Stanis150 Funny you use oshi no ko as an example when it's the very definition of overpromise and underdeliver. |
| "Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
Reply to Piromysl
Ionliosite2 said:
>It is nothing like Shikimori situation, where people were promising THE next big thing and a potential AOTS
I can't tell if you are being serious with this, but I saw people hyping up this series even before getting an anime announced as one of the best romances ever, it isn't helped by the fact that almost every single aggregation site you can check has it as one of the highest rated romance manga if not the highest rated, unless for some reason you literally live under a rock, this was and it still is hyped as one of the best romance ever and a potential AOTS.
>It is nothing like Shikimori situation, where people were promising THE next big thing and a potential AOTS
I can't tell if you are being serious with this, but I saw people hyping up this series even before getting an anime announced as one of the best romances ever, it isn't helped by the fact that almost every single aggregation site you can check has it as one of the highest rated romance manga if not the highest rated, unless for some reason you literally live under a rock, this was and it still is hyped as one of the best romance ever and a potential AOTS.
Are those people in the room with us right now?
In May 2025 this anime was sitting at measely 30th spot at Top Upcoming Anime with 63k members. That's lower than seasonal isekai trash. If anyone was hyped for it, it's probably because CloverWorks is behind it, which is one of the better studios out there and guarantees quality.
Meanwhile, Shikimori in March 2022 was sitting at 13th spot with 93k members.
Incomparable.
| @Piromysl Of course they are, you don't need to go further than MAL to notice them https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2179393 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2179394 It's actually funny when you search "most anticipated anime summer 2025" in google it even has pages like this https://www.anitrendz.com/news/2025/06/30/list-the-most-anticipated-anime-of-summer-2025 and https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1lltbxe/top_10_anticipated_anime_summer_2025_anime_corner/ the first one has it at first place and the second one at second place just behind Dandadan. You say they are incomparable, but that's barely 30k difference in members. |
Reply to Ionliosite2
@Piromysl Of course they are, you don't need to go further than MAL to notice them https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2179393 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2179394 It's actually funny when you search "most anticipated anime summer 2025" in google it even has pages like this https://www.anitrendz.com/news/2025/06/30/list-the-most-anticipated-anime-of-summer-2025 and https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1lltbxe/top_10_anticipated_anime_summer_2025_anime_corner/ the first one has it at first place and the second one at second place just behind Dandadan. You say they are incomparable, but that's barely 30k difference in members.
| @Ionliosite2 So you just brought up one thread with measely 40 responded and some results of random pool on Reddit, but nobody actually talking about it specifically. But surprise, surprise, it means absolutely nothing. Why? Becuse I also casted a vote in this exact same pool in it's favour and I can assure you, that I had no strong feelings towards this, nor any above average expectation. And I am quite positive vast majority of others did as well, because barely anyone mentions it besides the fact that it is literally from CloverWorks, which I mentioned earlier. Meanwhile in Shikimori's case you have abundance of threads in MAL alone where manga readers are gaslighting people people that it will be the masterpiece and then even more after it came out with them coping. Dunno why you bring up this 30k difference as if it helps your argument, because numbers don't lie. |
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Reply to Piromysl
@Ionliosite2 So you just brought up one thread with measely 40 responded and some results of random pool on Reddit, but nobody actually talking about it specifically. But surprise, surprise, it means absolutely nothing. Why? Becuse I also casted a vote in this exact same pool in it's favour and I can assure you, that I had no strong feelings towards this, nor any above average expectation. And I am quite positive vast majority of others did as well, because barely anyone mentions it besides the fact that it is literally from CloverWorks, which I mentioned earlier.
Meanwhile in Shikimori's case you have abundance of threads in MAL alone where manga readers are gaslighting people people that it will be the masterpiece and then even more after it came out with them coping. Dunno why you bring up this 30k difference as if it helps your argument, because numbers don't lie.
Meanwhile in Shikimori's case you have abundance of threads in MAL alone where manga readers are gaslighting people people that it will be the masterpiece and then even more after it came out with them coping. Dunno why you bring up this 30k difference as if it helps your argument, because numbers don't lie.
| >ignores proof against his point I accept your concession, you didn't say anything against what I brought up aside form saying that it doesn't count. True, the numbers don't lie and they are right there for you to see and you were the one who brought up the 30k difference, not me. |
| after watching two episodes I'm gonna say this series is boring as fuck, also quite contrived and predictable why it has such a high score I don't know, it looks like an usual generic run of the mill mellow seasonal romcom that usually gets an 8.0 or 8.1 and even that is rich dialogues and character development are very weak, they are banging some gimmicks into your face 5 times per episode - ok I get that dude has scary face can you stop and give some other details the schools don't like each other and the girl is very cute, ok fine what else? I wasted 40 minutes on this and I'm still waiting for the actual story |
Reply to Piromysl
Apparently a lot of people think that generic = bad, which is wrong.
| @Piromysl The show doesn't warrant hate or "generic" labels. It's plot device's leaves something to be desired.. but aside from that I'm thinking the shows an enjoyable watch. Good animation, expressive characters and a well executed pace that makes for an engaging/enjoyable watch. The scene where the male protag punches himself was borderline cringe though I'm not gonna lie... |
LordKirkisJul 21, 11:20 AM
| I would not call it hate if an obviously hyped/pushed anime (= it is liked a lot by most) is getting critical comments every now and then. They do not even manage to pull down the score + there actually do not seem many hateful thread titles (if we assume such threads would get closed + still visiable with the rule quote at the end when a moderator posts like it usually happens). Stuff mentioned in the OP is actually just normal critic (not hate) because of different taste. I mean I liked it so far- girl looks cute and seems cute together with the guy. But it gave a bit Romeo x Juliet vibes + I hope for more (interaction of the other students at the schools a bit happened in ep. 2 already) - so there are hopes that it can stay good by adding other stuff. (Not just turning into something that "gets old" + the chars doing the same stuff over and over and them fitting in every holiday/festival that exists.) On the other hand I see possible limitations and refrain from overhyping it - just cause it looks good is no reason for me to give it a 9 or 10. Is this hate if I stay with 8 + if others focusing on other aspects score it lower maybe while fans like it for other stuff they value more (the great visuals) giving a 9/10? I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. Maybe if we got constant threads about the score being too high + lots of reviewers bashing it (and their store 6 and lower) it could be hatte. But this does not seem to happen atm. It is 12 vs 4 with one mixed review. Some old score threads. (Locked.) And other threads focusing on certain aspects people might not have liked - where they seem to want to discuss/explain things. Not a "its so bad" stuff. |
| how is this rated so high? it seems just the normal romance anime. |
| Useless thread the anime already has a 8.79 score and it's been only 3 episodes... where is the hate? Maybe it's the overrating too soon that people are talking about thatyou don't like |
| I can't take anyone serious if they're saying things like "peak", it automatically makes me think that their brains aren't fully developed yet, aren't even adults, and never read a real book in their lives. I stopped reading this rant after you said "peak" tbh with you. so far this series looks poorly written and the dialogue is pretty bare bones & basic. There has never been an instance to where I felt like I was in the main character's shoes (basically what they're thinking or feeling in a meaningful way). I totally understand why ppl are dismissive about manga readers since it feels generic. |
| I haven't read the whole forum, I just wanted to say that the anime is nice the way it is. And if there are people who hate it, some of them will do so because of a mistake that I think is common, because even I have made it, and that is having very high expectations before even watching the first episode. That's why, personally, I like to have standard expectations for a new anime that I'm going to start if it's very popular, because it's simply better than thinking you're an expert critic by saying you've seen better things, since in the end you may end up getting a very pleasant surprise. I mention all this because, I admit, during the first half of the episode, I couldn't stop criticizing the logic of the characters' actions and how the story is very similar to others, but then I realized that I wasn't really enjoying what I was doing, so I decided to stop overanalyzing the logic and just enjoy the anime the way I really like to (I say this because it's obvious that everyone has their own way of enjoying anime). |
FranqitoHJul 26, 8:39 PM
| I tried to post in Spanish — the mods were not amused. “English only, thank you.” Okay. So much for being used. “Just copy-paste and click,” they smile, like that will make it right, But language gates aren’t freedom — they're censorship in white.  |
| any good/popular anime gets instant hate because this is the internet and people love to troll and ragebait Will some critiques be constructive, yes, but the vast majority is just sad pathetic losers wanting to make others mad |
| The score for this series was kind of absurd so its just gonna bring in a bunch of people with way too high expectations on top of people finding the school rivalry stuff stupid. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| In all friendliness, if you love the manga - rate the manga great. Don't rate the anime 10/10 before you have watched it or after watching 1 ep, that's disingenous. You can't know it will be great, there are plenty of botched adaptations. Thanks for explaining what you love about it though. I just got into it and hope I will get there. The first ep was shockingly generic/tropey compared to what I was expecting and the actual MAL score and what I had heard of the show before, hope it gets better. I don't hate it in any way, but from the start this is not what I was expecting from such a highly rated show. Can't judge yet though. |
| Edit:Double post |
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