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| I love the first episode when fighting with the betas, the rest are dogshit |
revyHOLiC said: I love the first episode when fighting with the betas, the rest are dogshit Yeah agree Eps 1 wow but the rest awful |
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| RIP Sagiri Naoya, a true patriot, may he harvest bliss in paradise. Unfortunately there's a s2 of this so I have to watch it because I am a fan of the VN. |
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| Honestly, I understood nothing lmao Haven't figured out which side is which, why are the Americans doing what they do The mechas were also quite non recognizable and I got confused so many times during the fights that I don't even know which side died ... |
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| I guess that was quite allright, not as action packed as, let's say Total Eclipse. I played the VN, the goofy part and a bit of the thing afterwards, I will try to finish it before cour 2. The addition of all the political situation stuff at episode 10 shows that the author must be an old man lol. It was made more complex than it had to be or it was too realistic for anime? The parts with Yuuko were a bit more interesting since I like scifi elements. About the episode, who brainwashed the pilot from Finland? very sad it happened. And why was Yoroi arrested in the end, she wasn't with the coupe people (I hope ) At least everyone was upset about something afterwards, that what everyone could agree with. The graduation was a good point to end the season not a cliffhanger like 86 *grrr* one more thing I found upsetting the most was that they really dwarfed Sumika's character design with a sleepy red haircolor and boring hairstyle. |
FabienneJan 17, 2022 7:47 AM
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| Well that was a lackluster series overall. Plot was all over the place and animation was poor, and character development was poor. Overall 4/10 |
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ixarising said: And one of the things i enjoyed about Muv-Luv is the ridiculous designs. The VN designs work well with Extra's settings and doesn't feel off even with Unlimited & Alternative. I always felt like the ML VN had the quintessential 2000s anime art style. I love it in the VN. That said, for a modern style take on the characters, they weren't that bad. I found Sumika pretty cute in this anime, actually. |
AlexeonJan 27, 2022 5:26 PM
| Blergh. |
| Why all animes about BETA (muv-luv, schwarzmarken) starts great with interesting plot and fights against BETA and then it gets terrible with just shit political stuffs ? Humanity is near extinction and they are solving only who will have higher profit... Honestly if it stayed with plot only about fights and training against beta I would give it 10/10. Also alternative world idea was good but that politics was useless and meaningless. |
| This adaptation has to be one of the most unfairly rated I have ever seen on MAL, the score is so low that I was sitting on ep1 after it aired, and just didnt felt like in the mood to watch it, but I m glad I finally gave it a change, binge watching it in 2 days. I cant understand which criteria other fans are using to judge this anime, but I can point to stuff in they watch list, that I could present valid arguments to be WAY worst. It is like we each have seen different versions of S1... the score can be really epic, bringing in the necessary mood for the scenes when it all goes down, so I dont mind they have sticked mostly with new songs, same for VA, they did a good job, and for the character designs, I like this more modern version to it, I can still recognize each character well enough, they just feel more modernized. The art took a hit in some scenes with really weird character models and details, but outside that, the animation is decent enough, and when it matters, the fights are what I imagined them to be, fast and epic. https://youtu.be/4R319IyfIF8 This battle scene above, is well over anything previous adaptations of the series have delivered on us, but considering the scale of what is ahead, I hope they take it to yet another level, because Sadogashima will need at least that much, and as for PSTD, I looked the shots they adapted with the first view from the cockpit and the warnings going on, I only expect them to do even better when the BETA appear, to me that will be crucial to see the BETA as menacing mindless killing machines that DONT STOP and DONT GIVE A SHIT. I have to be honest here, to me, I dont think it would have made much of a difference IF they had adapted Extra and Unlimited prior to this, for my enjoyment of this season, but I have to take points away because there is no way this is an ideal situation, and they still skipped a lot of stuff I wanted to see from MLA. Anime onlies SHOULD go and read the manga versions of the prequels, if they dont want to read the VN. 8.3/10 = 8 In the end I m very thankful S1 rised way above how I was imagining it to be, from checking almost weekly on these forums, on people shitting on it. The sole ideal MLA adaptation would have required Extra and Unlimited to be adapted first, would require more episodes for MLA alone, and top notch direction like we have seen on the best stuff from things like Mushoku Tensei and Attack on Titan, but it seems it taking all these years was not for that, neither to come with a plan to do Extra, Unlimited and Alternative justice in anime form... rather I belive they were waiting for CG tech to get better, to reach this point, so be it. Watching this season, brought back a lot of feels and nostalgia in, and for 90% of what they did, was pretty into it, if we have 26 more episodes to go, that should be decent to adapt it all, provided they up their game even further. Also, I did like the original content they added showing more of Valkyries from the start, definitly better than dropping them solely later on. I will not ever reccomend this season first, for the people that I see interested in VNs, those should always go with the VN as foremost, we will never get the adaptation we all waited and desired for all these years, but still, what is here is already better that most of what we see nowadays, and it spoke to my heart... Season 2 HYPE! (the OP was decent, but I really want them to do a much better ED, this one was trash, and they should fucking use "Asu e no Houkou" for S2, if they dont have anything better go with) hiraishinx said: Why all animes about BETA (muv-luv, schwarzmarken) starts great with interesting plot and fights against BETA and then it gets terrible with just shit political stuffs ? Humanity is near extinction and they are solving only who will have higher profit... Honestly if it stayed with plot only about fights and training against beta I would give it 10/10. Also alternative world idea was good but that politics was useless and meaningless. To be fair to MLA, this is like only around 25-35% in the VN, and after this, you will see a much bigger focus on what people actually came to the series for. Stick with it because you are bound to enjoy where the plot is going for from now on. fathurhyde said: Man. They butchered this adaptation so fucking much yet I'm still crying like a baby because it reminded me of the VN. Butchered? Lol, it could have been gone a lot worst, I still remenber some drama queens thinking they were gonna adapt the whole VN in 12 episodes, like LOL. For your standarts you see nowadays, this was better than most, direction and action was SOLID when it mattered, I think people really need to check on what they are seeing, and the compare with this season, instead of letting unreasonable expectations ditate what they feel about this. YES this adaptation is not making justice to the VN, YES it deserved better, BUT that better will never materialize, this was the next best thing we were gonna get, thus I m fine with it. For 12 episodes I think they actually tried really hard to come out with something decent and it shows. sho52 said: It was kinda passable, and I think the most important messages Kouki wanted to convey to modern Japan via the coup arc were covered. But man, how I just can't stand the manga-esque depiction of exaggerated emotion and all that shouting. If they keep this style for the rest of the series, it's gonna be such a huge downgrade from the original, which was so solemn and nuanced. Having much more time for detailed and realistic conversation certainly helps the VN, but still it's no excuse for the adaptation to make every line so melodramatic and almost comical. I am still of the opinion that the fact they strictly follows the manga without paying much attention, if at all, to the actual source, shows a huge lack of sincerity. The second season will definitely get a higher rating than the first if we expect the adaptation to continue in the same way, and the emotional rollercoaster will kinda be there. It will be far from being able to reproduce the wild ride of reading the highest-rated VN of all time though. I have read the manga and seen the VN too long ago to recall exactly, but I dont feel they were following one more than the other, then again, I do think the manga did a decent job in covering most bases... Getting an higher rating that this is like the most easy thing in the world, it is already so impossible low, lower even than the truly garbage VN adaptations we can all agree on. But yeah, not everyone likes politics, and I m sure the focus on BETAs from now will give many what they expected to see from the start. IF anything, if they had adapted Extra and Unlimited as standalone, I dunno how much patience most anime onlies would have, to finally get into the action with the BETAs only much later in Alternative... What is certain is that all these anime onlies are already exposed to the BETAs for a long time, thus even if they nail it, this adaptation, at that scene, will never come close to the experience a first time viewer, blinded, can have while playing the VN. OppaiSugoi said: KingGarland said: Came for a show about girls in skin tight suits in mechs fighting aliens. Got maybe two episodes of that, about 4 of character antics between the MC and his harem and 6 of a civil war arc I could barely follow or care about, though most of it did involve girls in skin tight suits in mechs so I got about half of what I wanted. 5/10 The VN lets you enjoy that :)  Ughh, I miss those chibi scenes in the VN so much, cute~~ (that said, Kasumi's where the very best!) |
PlaycoolJan 29, 2022 10:43 AM
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| this tipical conflict shouldn't have been a problem when there's a thread to the extinction of humanity. I still don't understand if the UN really want to control Japan, or their army is being sabotaged by BETA. the girl who started the shot didn't even realize she's shooting, and the dude is on her side until sliced to death by his own captain. the fight between UN captain with Sagiri and Sagiri raged over what's already been killed (the girl who started the shot) is kinda pointless. the cause already gone and they should calmed a bit and talk it over, but instead he went berserk and suicidal. now I understand why the rating isn't high. |
| Usually never comment on MAL, but with Muv-Luv being one of my favourite franchises of all time... I thought this was fine. There were some things I took issue with and I initially had my score much lower (6, then bumped it to 7 by episode 5 and finally gonna leave it at 8 purely for the entertainment factor and the amazing TSF combat), but overall I think I'd be happy to recommend this to people that are on the fence about the VN. You aren't spoiled on the biggest moments by just watching season 1 and I think everything after episode 4 does a good enough job that it should give you some idea of what the series is like. It's not ideal of course, but in today's industry I just can't see anyone ever adapting Muv-Luv Extra. It's a parody of late 90s/early 2000s RomComs, so I just don't see that ever doing well. The original is already very divisive among the VN crowd. For this adaptation though, I really think episode 1 was a mistake. Had it all been rolled out at once or as a split cour with less downtime, maybe it could have worked, but now going from that to Takeru's adventures feels pretty jarring and almost makes the show seem like a bait-and-switch. Sure, it provides some context for newcomers, but I still think episode 2 is arguably a better starting point as Takeru briefly summarizes his situation anyway. Aside from that, episode 3 wasn't great and episode 11 had some pretty glaring problems with how they animated that. A shame too, because the latter is smack in the middle of the best this season has to offer. The dialogue or the writing isn't even the problem, it's just portrayed rather poorly. Still, those are probably my main issues with the show. The new VAs grew on me (especially Yuuko's) and as said, the TSFs had some of the best mecha animation I've seen in a while. If we can expect the second half's level of quality for season 2 onwards I'm completely down. |
ixarising said: Well if we consider how much thought was place into Extra-Alternative. It makes me think if we really saw Extra beyond what he was planning. Like how Yoshimune mention in Age & his own broadcast. I mean Extra is mainly a romcom so it's not wrong but the romcom did have it's link to the main story. Yeah, I agree. The parallels are there and they're especially poignant in Alternative. I'm someone that enjoyed Extra, but like I said, I understand why it might not ever be considered for an adaptation. It's one thing to ask people to sit through a season of boot camp (which could've been done imo), but another entirely to make a completely different genre a pre-requisite. It's not exactly uncommon that people speed through Extra because they want to get to the "good stuff", and I can't fault them for that. In that regard, MLA is... OK as the starting point, but Unlimited probably would've been best (with some Extra flashbacks). But here we are. |
Zweibern said: Usually never comment on MAL, but with Muv-Luv being one of my favourite franchises of all time... I thought this was fine. There were some things I took issue with and I initially had my score much lower (6, then bumped it to 7 by episode 5 and finally gonna leave it at 8 purely for the entertainment factor and the amazing TSF combat), but overall I think I'd be happy to recommend this to people that are on the fence about the VN. You aren't spoiled on the biggest moments by just watching season 1 and I think everything after episode 4 does a good enough job that it should give you some idea of what the series is like. It's not ideal of course, but in today's industry I just can't see anyone ever adapting Muv-Luv Extra. It's a parody of late 90s/early 2000s RomComs, so I just don't see that ever doing well. The original is already very divisive among the VN crowd. For this adaptation though, I really think episode 1 was a mistake. Had it all been rolled out at once or as a split cour with less downtime, maybe it could have worked, but now going from that to Takeru's adventures feels pretty jarring and almost makes the show seem like a bait-and-switch. Sure, it provides some context for newcomers, but I still think episode 2 is arguably a better starting point as Takeru briefly summarizes his situation anyway. Aside from that, episode 3 wasn't great and episode 11 had some pretty glaring problems with how they animated that. A shame too, because the latter is smack in the middle of the best this season has to offer. The dialogue or the writing isn't even the problem, it's just portrayed rather poorly. Still, those are probably my main issues with the show. The new VAs grew on me (especially Yuuko's) and as said, the TSFs had some of the best mecha animation I've seen in a while. If we can expect the second half's level of quality for season 2 onwards I'm completely down. well considering that MLA is basically groundhog day for Takeru, the show is already spoiling from the beginning since he knew what will happen in the previous timeline and basically alters events to avoid Alternative V, essentially being a time wizard. Shimata, ISEKAI MOMENT. Screw plot development amirite? |
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ixarising said: OppaiSugoi said: well considering that MLA is basically groundhog day for Takeru, the show is already spoiling from the beginning since he knew what will happen in the previous timeline and basically alters events to avoid Alternative V, essentially being a time wizard. Shimata, ISEKAI MOMENT. Screw plot development amirite? The funny thing is most first time viewers think Takeru has time looping powers. XD If that really happened, the anime would be a whole another story :\ |
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| Wow, so bushido. Very samurai. |
MoeMoeKyunNov 17, 2022 5:05 AM
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| May have butchered the VN with the amount of cut content and stuff making it hard to follow the story (like what happened in the past), but as an anime-only I still found this to be a decent season with some good moments. |
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