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May 24, 2021 9:14 AM

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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
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People complaining about fictional "underage" characters being sexualized. This argument has been debunked so thoroughly and so many times over the years, I feel like at this point if anybody makes it they should just not be taken seriously and laughed out of the room/thread/forum.
But instead I usually see a decent amount people trying to coddle the person so they don't get offended, giving nuanced takes or even agreeing in some cases which is just insane to me. How could you even be an anime fan if 17 year old highschool girls being mildly sexualized offends you when that's over 90% of shows.

Btw I'm scrolling through this thread and you can see some of these fine people already posting bellow in case you need examples.


Ironically, it's also strongly offensive to women everywhere.

Because women have been fighting for the freedom to show some skin without being demonized, not just by men but by other women, for a very long time.
We shot right past the "you fucking SLUT!" days and are almost at the "put all women in burqas to prevent evil gazes" stage. Outstanding move.


I was leaning a bit more into the "underage" aspect of this complaint and am more sympathetic to complaints about females in anime being oversexualized in general but I mostly agree with you that they've gone way too far on that part as well.
Like complaining about anime girls just looking attractive instead of being fat and ugly which is more "realistic" in their heads.
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May 24, 2021 12:45 PM

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Liking anime, I mean whats up with that? I thought we were supposed to hate anime here.

May 24, 2021 1:08 PM

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Maybe I'm behind the times but the expectation of girls and women to look like anime characters, or to have the body of one, aka a super slim frame with massive boobs, tiny waist, big eyes etc.

As for men, no expectations whatsoever!
May 24, 2021 2:24 PM

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Chika_tetsu said:
dissing on pre-established culture
yes including disliking the term "trap"

I agree with you here but man... your taste in anime is shit. Except for Nobunaga Concerto, that one is cool.
May 24, 2021 2:25 PM

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luminouspaint said:
Loli and Shota

I know it’s controversial but it just seems pedophilic, it’s not really the communities fault though
Except, it's only pedophilic towards anime people, not human people. It's like the absurd conversation about not "objectifying" drawings, as if they aren't literally objects, trying to equate all these things to human beings is nonsensical.
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May 24, 2021 2:29 PM

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AcbSnakeDemon said:
I guess one problem is the sexualization of female characters, but recently anime like JJK have been putting a twist on that which is pretty cool.
This is only a problem if it interferes with the atmosphere of the show, because unlike HBO shows and the like with sexual content, sexual content in anime is almost always tied into comedy and not viewed in a mature capacity. As for whether or not this is sexist, that entire argument is sex-negative against women in the first place.
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May 24, 2021 2:30 PM

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moonlily1 said:
AcbSnakeDemon said:
I guess one problem is the sexualization of female characters, but recently anime like JJK have been putting a twist on that which is pretty cool.
This ^^^ Female characters always being over sexualized is way too normalized in my opinion. It’s refreshing to see non sexualized and strong female characters for a change.
Except, you can't make statements like these without implying a negative context to sexualization in the first place.
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May 24, 2021 2:32 PM

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KaiserHamuel said:
Finding children sexuality attractive. There’s no excuse for being into loli’s.
Finding loli content sexual within the guise of sexual fetishism is completely uninteresting, you need further sexual education.
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May 24, 2021 2:34 PM

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plutochan said:
Maybe I'm behind the times but the expectation of girls and women to look like anime characters, or to have the body of one, aka a super slim frame with massive boobs, tiny waist, big eyes etc.

As for men, no expectations whatsoever!
Wait, why the fuck would I want girls to look like anime characters? That shit would be terrifying in real life.
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May 24, 2021 2:41 PM

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Complaining about politics, whether in the anime industry or the community. It's almost as if anime isn't a medium that's filled to the brim with politics and social commentary.
May 24, 2021 2:45 PM

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Kaliyahscake said:
Anything you think that shouldn’t be as normalized as it is in the anime community?
For me it’s the usage of the word “trap” on actual transgender characters but I’m not gonna get into it😫👌🏽
I actually think it's a bad term in general, no matter who it is applied to. It's hard to ignore that the context of the word is negative towards a feminine presenting person on the basis of them being a bio-male. The majority of trap characters are not trans, but then they are rarely given the option, their maleness is not any result of gender identity, it's a statement of their birth sex, and the implication those characters are always male in gender due to them being born male, which is obviously somewhat transphobic.
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May 24, 2021 2:47 PM

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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
Ironically, it's also strongly offensive to women everywhere.

Because women have been fighting for the freedom to show some skin without being demonized, not just by men but by other women, for a very long time.
We shot right past the "you fucking SLUT!" days and are almost at the "put all women in burqas to prevent evil gazes" stage. Outstanding move.
This isn't necessarily a problem anymore, because feminists are happy to embrace sex-positivity towards women and how women choose to dress and represent themselves, because they can just direct all the sex-negativity their ideology implies towards men/"patriarchy" instead, while shielding women from the negative connotations of that.
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AcbSnakeDemon said:
I guess one problem is the sexualization of female characters, but recently anime like JJK have been putting a twist on that which is pretty cool.


When you just realized that anime since the past few decades have had non sexualized characters.

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KaiserHamuel said:
Finding children sexuality attractive. There’s no excuse for being into loli’s.


The very fact people think they need excuses to like what they like just shows the anti-loli crowd is going too far. Embrace your degeneracy, bust to loli, drawings of children, whatever you wish to call it.
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Im_Stuff said:
KaiserHamuel said:
Finding children sexuality attractive. There’s no excuse for being into loli’s.


The very fact people think they need excuses to like what they like just shows the anti-loli crowd is going too far. Embrace your degeneracy, bust to loli, drawings of children, whatever you wish to call it.
how dare these ppl try to make me feel at least the faintest amount of shame for masturbating to children 😭😭😭😭
  

May 24, 2021 2:59 PM

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I see we've already got "loli/shota" covered, so I'll just lol at a couple of people who consider the topic """"debunked""""and vaguely attempt to associate with sex-positivity.

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ramyfication said:
Im_Stuff said:


The very fact people think they need excuses to like what they like just shows the anti-loli crowd is going too far. Embrace your degeneracy, bust to loli, drawings of children, whatever you wish to call it.
how dare these ppl try to make me feel at least the faintest amount of shame for masturbating to children 😭😭😭😭
If we're talking about human children you might have a point, but even then, there's still grosser fetishes if you ask me.
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May 24, 2021 3:11 PM

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Sub elitism is literally the most socially accepted and normalized form of elitism and I hate it. Every other kind of elitists in the anime community you will see getting roasted for being obnoxious pricks. However, sub elitists get a pass for some reason.
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Tylaen said:
I see we've already got "loli/shota" covered, so I'll just lol at a couple of people who consider the topic """"debunked""""and vaguely attempt to associate with sex-positivity.

Deep lels for me, d00d.
It should be debunked unless you can't tell the difference between a cartoon and a real person, but since there's quite a few Gov. of countries that can't understand this distinction either, and the resulting paranoia in the wake of things like Epstein, it makes it more difficult to single out people for their ridiculous views, when the world itself is apparently going crazy.
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Tentacle Hentai... Who the fuck likes that sick stuff? I like scat, guro and shit like that but tentacle? lmao wat

what the fuck
what the fuck
what the fuck



lol. It's been a thing forever for whatever reason so yeah :(



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i agree with like 99% of the opinions on this thread dear god
i like that it's also the reverse of the other normalization thread, but that's a good thing i guess
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ramyfication said:
Im_Stuff said:


The very fact people think they need excuses to like what they like just shows the anti-loli crowd is going too far. Embrace your degeneracy, bust to loli, drawings of children, whatever you wish to call it.
how dare these ppl try to make me feel at least the faintest amount of shame for masturbating to children 😭😭😭😭


That stings, which is more pain given to people than everything I did by masturbating to hentai
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May 24, 2021 3:20 PM

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Ah the moral outrage thread can't get enough of those. People need a boost to their egos I guess today.
May 24, 2021 3:21 PM
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Adimus_prime said:
Sub elitism is literally the most socially accepted and normalized form of elitism and I hate it. Every other kind of elitists in the anime community you will see getting roasted for being obnoxious pricks. However, sub elitists get a pass for some reason.
because watching with sub is actually superior, normalizing hating on dub watchers isn't good though
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LostSpectre said:
Tylaen said:
I see we've already got "loli/shota" covered, so I'll just lol at a couple of people who consider the topic """"debunked""""and vaguely attempt to associate with sex-positivity.

Deep lels for me, d00d.
It should be debunked unless you can't tell the difference between a cartoon and a real person, but since there's quite a few Gov. of countries that can't understand this distinction either, and the resulting paranoia in the wake of things like Epstein, it makes it more difficult to single out people for their ridiculous views, when the world itself is apparently going crazy.
Oh, I'm not against your excuse to label us unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality. It's a good indicator to not take anything you've got to say with any degree of seriousness, drawing out the lowest form of argument to rationalize it to yourself.

Also suddenly Epstein. Nice!
May 24, 2021 3:22 PM

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Entitled westerners trying to force their culture and views on a foreign production. As with this thread.
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Slawadia said:
Entitled westerners trying to force their culture and views on a foreign production. As with this thread.


I couldn't say it any better than this. 1+

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Tylaen said:
LostSpectre said:
It should be debunked unless you can't tell the difference between a cartoon and a real person, but since there's quite a few Gov. of countries that can't understand this distinction either, and the resulting paranoia in the wake of things like Epstein, it makes it more difficult to single out people for their ridiculous views, when the world itself is apparently going crazy.
Oh, I'm not against your excuse to label us unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality. It's a good indicator to not take anything you've got to say with any degree of seriousness, drawing out the lowest form of argument to rationalize it to yourself.

Also suddenly Epstein. Nice!
You misunderstood. My point is not regarding fiction, my point is regarding how cartoon are fundamentally different from people, in appearance.
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Slawadia said:
Entitled westerners trying to force their culture and views on a foreign production. As with this thread.
You bring NePoLaBo shame.NePoLaBo

LostSpectre said:
Tylaen said:
Oh, I'm not against your excuse to label us unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality. It's a good indicator to not take anything you've got to say with any degree of seriousness, drawing out the lowest form of argument to rationalize it to yourself.

Also suddenly Epstein. Nice!
You misunderstood. My point is not regarding fiction, my point is regarding how cartoon are fundamentally different from people, in appearance.
A distinction without a difference to the point.
May 24, 2021 3:26 PM

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MajesticOtaKing said:
Treating female anime fans like shiny Pokemon. I see a lot of people perpetuating this idea that there are no female fans in the community (or if there are, then they only like BL). I don't like feeling excluded from a fandom I've been a part of for 22 years. It doesn't happen super often, but I see it often enough to be irritated by it.

**ALSO the trap thing. People don't understand that there is a difference between trap and trans, and that is causing problems for the trans community.**


As someone who is trans female myself I agree on both of these statements. Like it hurts with people saying "female weebs don't exist and those who are online are just pretending to be female" which especially hurts with me being pre HRT trans. I have only been a part of the anime community for like almost 4 years (and I came out as trans like a year and a half) and in that year and a half it really hit me the just blatant sexist side of the community. Also the trap thing is its whole other mess that is super complicated and i don't want to talk about much and I used to call myself that before i discovered i was trans so its like really hard for me to discuss on either side of that argument.
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spaesu said:
Adimus_prime said:
Sub elitism is literally the most socially accepted and normalized form of elitism and I hate it. Every other kind of elitists in the anime community you will see getting roasted for being obnoxious pricks. However, sub elitists get a pass for some reason.
because watching with sub is actually superior, normalizing hating on dub watchers isn't good though
Well, it's easy for sub to be superior when you don't know shit about Japanese, and get used to readings subs, then everything sounds good, within reason, maybe not squeaky toy Goku, etc.
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Tylaen said:
Slawadia said:
Entitled westerners trying to force their culture and views on a foreign production. As with this thread.
You bring NePoLaBo shame.NePoLaBo

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You misunderstood. My point is not regarding fiction, my point is regarding how cartoon are fundamentally different from people, in appearance.
A distinction without a difference to the point.
That's literally nonsense, cartoons don't look like flesh/blood human beings, they look like cartoons that are representative of human beings. lol
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LostSpectre said:
Tylaen said:
You bring NePoLaBo shame.NePoLaBo

A distinction without a difference to the point.
That's literally nonsense, cartoons don't look like flesh/blood human beings, they look like cartoons that are representative of human beings. lol
Your powers of observation are outstanding. I'll see you in some other thread, maybe.
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Tylaen said:
LostSpectre said:
That's literally nonsense, cartoons don't look like flesh/blood human beings, they look like cartoons that are representative of human beings. lol
Your powers of observation are outstanding. I'll see you in some other thread, maybe.
I guess I'll take that as you having no defense.
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loli and guro
thats all i could think of :c
maybe the guro aint so normal at community too
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LostSpectre said:
Tylaen said:
Your powers of observation are outstanding. I'll see you in some other thread, maybe.
I guess I'll take that as you having no defense.
What would I be defending against, exactly? We're not in a disagreement about the barriers of reality.
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LostSpectre said:
spaesu said:
because watching with sub is actually superior, normalizing hating on dub watchers isn't good though
Well, it's easy for sub to be superior when you don't know shit about Japanese, and get used to readings subs, then everything sounds good, within reason, maybe not squeaky toy Goku, etc.
i understand japanese and still prefer subs over (foreign) dubs
May 24, 2021 3:35 PM

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People complaining about underage and "pedophilia" in anime but they remain silent about Cuties pedo poster.
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Nurguburu said:
People complaining about underage and "pedophilia" in anime but they keep silent about Cuties pedo poster.
Doesn't make sense, people complaining about it in anime are most likely complaining about it when it comes to real kids.
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spaesu said:
LostSpectre said:
Well, it's easy for sub to be superior when you don't know shit about Japanese, and get used to readings subs, then everything sounds good, within reason, maybe not squeaky toy Goku, etc.
i understand japanese and still prefer subs over (foreign) dubs
Well, I assume most people who prefer subs do not speak Japanese.
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May 24, 2021 3:40 PM

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The anime is trash and so am I mentality is one thing. Besides that recommending anime randomly in comments out of nowhere is anothing I see.
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Outside of my whole thing I posted as a response agreeing what someone else said, I feel a big issue is the just general lack of people giving a shit about spoilers. I'm only on season 1 of attack on titan and someone told me how it ends. It feels like people just assume everyone is caught up. Its especially a problem here and on twitter where spoiler discussions are unmarked and have the spoiler in the main thread title.
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luminouspaint said:
Loli and Shota

I know it’s controversial but it just seems pedophilic, it’s not really the communities fault though


Disclaimer: I'm not trying to come off as rude or anything I just want to share my thoughts on this. Also sorry if I'm poking my nose into something that is none of my business.

Think about it like this, a pedophile can be a lolicon/shotacon but a lolicon/shotacon can't be a pedophile. What this means is that while a pedophile can be attracted to loli/shota, a lolicon/shotacon can't be attracted to real children.
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Using the term "trap", harassing creators because you didn't get what you wanted in the anime/manga, the sexualization of minors, the sexualization of female characters, only writing a female character in for the soul purpose of being the mc's love interest and nothing else, queerbaitng, etc.
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AcbSnakeDemon said:
I guess one problem is the sexualization of female characters, but recently anime like JJK have been putting a twist on that which is pretty cool.
those are things that are normalized within anime not anime community
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Violet_Night2 said:
Using the term "trap, harassing creators because you didn't get what you wanted in the anime/manga, the sexualization of minors, the sexualization of female characters, only writing a female character in for the sole purpose of being the mc's love interest and nothing else, etc.
you're talking about things that are normalized within the anime community
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Violet_Night2 said:
Using the term "trap, harassing creators because you didn't get what you wanted in the anime/manga, the sexualization of minors, the sexualization of female characters, only writing a female character in for the sole purpose of being the mc's love interest and nothing else, etc.
also why are all the people here that are saying the same things as you have aot pfp?
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Watching Yuri, but saying Yaoi is trash or vice versa.
The use of word trash.
Shipping characters in sports anime.
Treating a show like you own it, harassing creators and sending death wishes. These things are really getting out of hand.
I sometimes forget to finish my sentences.
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