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Jan 15, 2016 1:58 PM

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This ep went in a blink of an eye. It felt like I watched for just a few minutes.

I don't care if it is propaganda material because it is great to watch.
Jan 15, 2016 1:59 PM
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D'aww, Pina is scared and wants her Itami...

I'll admit that seeing the Prince get his butt handed to him was satisfying, although it also looks like the bunny girl isn't as much the victim as she seemed last episode.

I'm not sure the SDF's reaction to Noriko made the most sense, though. Attack the prince and kill a bunch of (relatively) innocent guards right in front of the emperor just after discussing peace talks? Without even attempting to ask politely for her return? Granted, Japan has the upper hand, and they're rightfully disgusted about the treatment of prisoners in this world, but they do have prisoners of their own after all. It seems like something more diplomatic would have been better. (Though I don't blame them for it.) At least they lampshaded this later on, saying that normally Itami would have been punished for that action, but that it happened to be politically convenient at home so he'll probably get away with it.

And certainly it's a good outcome for Noriko herself, although it sounds like she has some more heartbreak coming.

Looks like next ep will focus on Tuka. I hope she gets over losing her dad. It looks like she's at least realising that he's no longer there now, which is a good start.
Jan 15, 2016 2:06 PM

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Oh man, did my blood ever boil when they showed Noriko. It felt so good when Itami lunged a punch to the bastard rapist prince, and even more so when he got beaten to a bloody pulp. I get off on seeing sweet justice being dealt like this. I kind of wish Itami had enough time to torture him a little bit more though, maybe blow off one of his ears, or gouge an eye out before the bunny girl stepped him. Although I'm surprised to see the slave bunny girl protecting him at all...what is her gain in that?

Interesting enough, I'm also glad they cut out


So I'm guessing Noriko's family is dead, or kidnapped as well? It's just one tragedy after another.

With all that out of the way...did anyone else notice how they totally glossed over the whole reason why they went to the palace in the first place...to prepare for aftershocks and future earthquakes?
Jan 15, 2016 2:15 PM

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Piña's reaction is priceless.
This episode is what I am waiting for...finally teach that cocky brother of Piña a lesson.
Man, it feel so good seeing him got beat up by Kuribayashi.
That usagi cunt save that shit...and they already planning on attacking JSDF.
Jan 15, 2016 2:18 PM

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This season is not off to a good start. With the rather lighthearted/comedic atmosphere it has established in the first season such gruesome shootings, slave abuse, rape, etc. comes as super jarring and almost uncomfortable to watch. The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore ( atm ) but I am not a fan of such a change.
Jan 15, 2016 2:26 PM

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I absolutely hated that prince piece of shit when I read the manga. And all those who have read it would understand why. I was grinning like an idiot when his face was being rekt'ed. But I have to say, the way they painted him in the anime was far more redeemable compared to his manga version. I still hate him so much but I have to like the anime version only ever so slightly.
Jan 15, 2016 2:28 PM

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Boy I'm glad that prince got beat up. So annoying.
Jan 15, 2016 2:28 PM
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robis798 said:
This season is not off to a good start. With the rather lighthearted/comedic atmosphere it has established in the first season such gruesome shootings, slave abuse, rape, etc. comes as super jarring and almost uncomfortable to watch. The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore ( atm ) but I am not a fan of such a change.


were in a middle of a serious arc now , things wont be comedy for a while unless you want them to make rape murder in chibi form to make it cute and funny
Jan 15, 2016 2:29 PM

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Man did this episode go by quickly! It really was THAT good! =D

Zozal made one big clanger by bringing in the captured Noriko, caught during the invasion back in the 1st episode of season 1. This led to Itami completely falcon punching Zorzal right in the face.

To add to the one-sided humiliation, Kuribayashi unleashed hell on Zorzal's troops with multiple knife attacks, followed by the rifle bullets to finish most of the other soilders off. And to top it off, she unleashed a powerful shoryuken on Zorzal, and then proceeded to beat the living shit out of him. 100% pure satisfaction on seeing the bastard getting what he deserved. =)

The bunny girl, to my surprise, wanted to nurse Zorzal back to health, despite what he did to her in the previous episode. Someone need their head fixed. =/

I found it pretty amusing that despite the fact that the JSDF destroyed the senate building, the emperor's throne was somehow intact. Is the chair made out of stronger materials than the building itself now? XD
Jan 15, 2016 2:30 PM
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robis798 said:
This season is not off to a good start. With the rather lighthearted/comedic atmosphere it has established in the first season such gruesome shootings, slave abuse, rape, etc. comes as super jarring and almost uncomfortable to watch. The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore ( atm ) but I am not a fan of such a change.

I think you need to go back and watch the first season again. The show has always had those elements. There were several outright massacres of empire forces, kidnappings, dragon attacks, villages destroyed, etc etc. Sure, there were lighthearted character moments too, but we'll get those again; this season is still establishing.
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robis798 said:
The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore...

It never was.

Tyuule is a more complex character than when she first appeared. She's not just a victim. She's the brains of Zorzal's team. But what's she trying to do?
Jan 15, 2016 2:35 PM
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That was so incredibly satisfying. I wish more anime/manga would have smug villains being so thoroughly humilliated as we saw this episode.
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Jan 15, 2016 2:40 PM
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Tyuule is a more complex character than when she first appeared. She's not just a victim. She's the brains of Zorzal's team. But what's she trying to do?

I think maybe she's playing the long game. It said last episode that she's some sort of leader for her people, and this episode that the prince was most likely going to be the next emperor.

She might be trying to get him to like her enough that when he gets into power he'll treat her people better than they have been thus far. Or at least be in a position that she can suggest things that will benefit her people. Although idk, he still seems like too much of a dick to do that... but then at least some of that seems to be normal for this society.
Jan 15, 2016 2:48 PM

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That scene in the throne room was very brutal. It seems like they upped the ante a bit in terms of tension this season. Each time that the JSDF does something, it really feels very brutal. Despite the fact that the violence is toned down, the tension is still there. And I think they captured that perfectly.

Also enjoying a lot of the politics this season. They did most of the world building last season, so they're able to focus on more the meat and potatoes this season it seems. And I'm really enjoying it so far.
Jan 15, 2016 2:51 PM

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So glad the prince got beat up
Jan 15, 2016 2:53 PM

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robis798 said:
This season is not off to a good start. With the rather lighthearted/comedic atmosphere it has established in the first season such gruesome shootings, slave abuse, rape, etc. comes as super jarring and almost uncomfortable to watch. The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore ( atm ) but I am not a fan of such a change.


Just echoing other's thoughts here. I wouldn't say that the tone has changed so much, per se. There were definitely comedic elements in the previous episode (not so much in this one). But the dark themes were always there. They just took a bit of a backseat at certain points for character and world building. But, I'm sure that there's more lighthearted moments to come. The comedic moments are also part of this show's charm in my opinion, and they wouldn't just get rid of it completely. That would be kind of silly.
Jan 15, 2016 3:00 PM

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I guess all the brave/dumb soldiers died in the 1st season.
Jan 15, 2016 3:06 PM
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Just echoing other's thoughts here. I wouldn't say that the tone has changed so much, per se. There were definitely comedic elements in the previous episode (not so much in this one). But the dark themes were always there. They just took a bit of a backseat at certain points for character and world building. But, I'm sure that there's more lighthearted moments to come. The comedic moments are also part of this show's charm in my opinion, and they wouldn't just get rid of it completely. That would be kind of silly.

Well, we haven't had any episodes with Itami's harem yet. Those tend to be the more light-hearted ones. Though we might be getting one next...

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I guess all the brave/dumb soldiers died in the 1st season.

Actually most of those were the soldiers of subject nations, not the actual Empire's soldiers. The emperor was pulling a stunt to reduce the size of the external armies so they'd have less chance of winning if they decided to rebel. Which is pretty nasty, but politically sound.
Jan 15, 2016 3:07 PM

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Well done with all the censoring they had to add. Have the say the manga had the most satisfying beat down.

Action was great.

I really enjoyed this scene. Not so often we get a fps viewpoint.
Jan 15, 2016 3:19 PM
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Anyone else getting serious hints of Stockholm Syndrome from the bunny chick? Hope they'll give that interaction some thought as well.
Overall, I'm amazed how well they manage the setting of modern japanese society meets (relatively) uncivilized fantasy world. The way the Special Region people are not introduced to general human rights and codes of conflict are contrasted really nicely
Jan 15, 2016 3:38 PM

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Man, what the fuck is wrong with some of you freaks demanding that the show be more graphic in portraying sex slavery and rape? Jesus christ guys, this isn't a hentai, you don't need pornographic material to get the point across that the prince is a huge fucking asshole...

It was a good episode to a decent show, go get your torture porn jollies off elsewhere.
Jan 15, 2016 3:48 PM

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love this scene..
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Jan 15, 2016 3:51 PM
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I understand how that could've been taken the wrong way, my bad. I merely meant that this show does not shy away from things like the darker nature of man, or the fact that our psyches are fragile. Not in the slightest interested in the actual abuse
Jan 15, 2016 3:55 PM

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robis798 said:
This season is not off to a good start. With the rather lighthearted/comedic atmosphere it has established in the first season such gruesome shootings, slave abuse, rape, etc. comes as super jarring and almost uncomfortable to watch. The tone is changing a tad, it's not a stupid comedy anymore ( atm ) but I am not a fan of such a change.
I recommend Outbreak Company which is more or less a comedic version of this anime. It still involves the JSDF but they aren't the primary focus.
Jan 15, 2016 4:03 PM
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Man, what the fuck is wrong with some of you freaks demanding that the show be more graphic in portraying sex slavery and rape? Jesus christ guys, this isn't a hentai, you don't need pornographic material to get the point across that the prince is a huge fucking asshole...


While I am completely fine with the toned down version, one of the appeals of the novel and the manga is that it didn't hold back in portraying such a society as it was. Princes were not noble, but were evil, brutal, violent, and abusive (with rare exceptions). Even Pina, the good one, last season physically abused her staff and ordered her to seduce the enemy (Itami), and she threatened to massacre an entire family. That is what nobility was like.

So while I don't think the show has lost anything in implying rather than showing, I can sympathize with fans wanting the rougher version. It isn't because of "getting off", but rather in reaction to all the pollyanna fantasy shows out there.
Jan 15, 2016 4:30 PM

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Loved this episode! Pina's asshole brother got what he deserved but I don't know what's up with the bunny chick... Does she have a plan or did she get brainwashed?
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RealityRush said:
Man, what the fuck is wrong with some of you freaks demanding that the show be more graphic in portraying sex slavery and rape? Jesus christ guys, this isn't a hentai, you don't need pornographic material to get the point across that the prince is a huge fucking asshole...


While I am completely fine with the toned down version, one of the appeals of the novel and the manga is that it didn't hold back in portraying such a society as it was. Princes were not noble, but were evil, brutal, violent, and abusive (with rare exceptions). Even Pina, the good one, last season physically abused her staff and ordered her to seduce the enemy (Itami), and she threatened to massacre an entire family. That is what nobility was like.

So while I don't think the show has lost anything in implying rather than showing, I can sympathize with fans wanting the rougher version. It isn't because of "getting off", but rather in reaction to all the pollyanna fantasy shows out there.

The show is portraying the fact that this society is barbaric, you don't need to show bloodied tits or mass amounts of rape and severed heads to accomplish that. I don't need to watch a person get torn in half to understand that it is a horrible concept. I don't need to watch a bunch of Jews dig their own graves and then their heads explode to gunfire in gory detail as they fall in the trench to realize that Hitler was an asshole and World War II was horrifying. Wanting the show to be graphic is entirely about personal gratification, unless the person demanding it has the imagination of a goldfish.

That isn't to say such darker imagery doesn't have a place. Saving Private Ryan was a great movie that really drove home the horrors of war, for example, but the excessiveness of people bitching about it on here leads me to believe it isn't because they think it would make the show have more of an impact, it really seems a lot more like personal desire. Maybe I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt it.
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Great episode! Can't believe they still had slaves after all this time. I hate that Prince as much as the next guy and he definitely deserved getting his ass kicked, but I did kind of feel sorry for him afterwards. I think Bunny girl might have a trick up her sleeve...

I do feel for the girl though. So wait, she was missing before the GATE event? How did she get in there then? Was she taken in there before the event or during? I don't really get it, but I don't think it really matters. She's seems like a one off character anyway.

2 episodes without Rory doing anything, this makes me sad. Loved it regardless.
Jan 15, 2016 4:39 PM

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Been waiting for this episode, since I knew that the prince would get beaten. Through I do like the manga version more than the anime version of the beating. After all, they did change some of the lines which made it not as fun as when Itami sends Kuribayashi for the prince.
Manga version lines: "Kuribayashi, get him to reconsider, just don't kill him."
Jan 15, 2016 4:40 PM

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Read the manga after episode 1 last week a little ahead because people kept saying it was much darker. Aside from more clothing on the slaves and less slaves in general (there were multiple slaves being dragged when the prince made a entrance in the manga) pretty good adaption.

The fight scene was much better in this too imo. Though the face punching scene was a bit weak.

Still wished they'd just kill off the prince though, fuck politics!
Jan 15, 2016 5:15 PM

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oh my god that punch felt so good so je raped her but now she's defending him classic insecure human female behavior right there
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The show is portraying the fact that this society is barbaric, you don't need to show bloodied tits or mass amounts of rape and severed heads to accomplish that. I don't need to watch a person get torn in half to understand that it is a horrible concept. I don't need to watch a bunch of Jews dig their own graves and then their heads explode to gunfire in gory detail as they fall in the trench to realize that Hitler was an asshole and World War II was horrifying. Wanting the show to be graphic is entirely about personal gratification, unless the person demanding it has the imagination of a goldfish.

That isn't to say such darker imagery doesn't have a place. Saving Private Ryan was a great movie that really drove home the horrors of war, for example, but the excessiveness of people bitching about it on here leads me to believe it isn't because they think it would make the show have more of an impact, it really seems a lot more like personal desire. Maybe I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt it.


You are contradicting yourself. Why is the imagery in Saving Private Ryan okay, but not when it comes to this show? As you pointed out many people needed to see the movie to get the horror of war. Many people needed to see the Accused to really understand the horror of rape. It's the same thing. Many stories are improved by showing things as they really would be.

Would there be a purpose? Absolutely, people take the present for granted. They think that things today are the way things should have always been. Just read most of the history books being written: the project our issues today back upon the past (racism, sexism, almost any ~ism). They shouldn't, because it means that they cannot understand the past which in turns prevents them from appreciating the present which ultimately will mean that they repeat the past. One only needs to see the Balkans and how much a romantic vision of the past played into the conflict.

That said, I don't think this animation would have pulled off the effectiveness of the manga. The manga could get away with a panel here or there, but any animation could not achieve the same impact without dedicating some space to the scene, which in turn would destroy the balance the manga could achieve. I don't think the fans of the manga appreciate that difficulty, and personally I think the animators have found a decent balance.

Finally, why do you care what the "bitchers" reasons are? You are the one who has decided that they are "into things", why not just ignore them?

Edit: on rewatching there is one thing I would have changed. In the manga there were a group of woman chained together with Noriko, I think they should have kept that. It both impresses the idea of chattel and also that the vulgarity of the prince is far more horrific.
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oh my god that punch felt so good so je raped her but now she's defending him classic insecure human female behavior right there

That sounds quite misogynistic if you ask me. The situation is hardly done justice by basically saying she's easily swayed because she's a woman.
Jan 15, 2016 5:29 PM
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They implied that Noeiko was kidnapped before the Genzo incident and her family went missing that day. If I'm not mistaken, in the manga her family were getting missing one by one in weeks after that day jisting a shady government
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I'm somewhat confused by this episode. Noriko was kidnapped during the attack. But her family was also there looking for her. I'm confused with the timeline here. The attack from the empire happened in 1 day right?
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Pretty awesome episode, Things got pretty intense after that earthquake. OMG Pina was so cute when she was asking Itami to come with her and then after that crazy fight was awesome to see Kuribayshi go 1 vs 20 or something and just take all those guys out and then finally get to see the prince get what he deserves as she beats that asshole down! It was weird to see the bunny girl go to save him which I dont really understand what is going on there but maybe we will learn more on that later. It was also cool to learn that people went through the gate before that incident in the 1st episode of the 1st season as some people were kidnapped like Noriko which will be interesting to learn more about her and how she fits in to all this, its going to be so sad when she finds out what happened to her family though. I cannot wait to see what will happen in the next episode as we have the dragon and Tuka looking for her dad problems as well.

Here is my full review on the episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV2rZJXRv8Y&feature=youtu.be
Jan 15, 2016 6:05 PM

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RealityRush said:
Man, what the fuck is wrong with some of you freaks demanding that the show be more graphic in portraying sex slavery and rape? Jesus christ guys, this isn't a hentai, you don't need pornographic material to get the point across that the prince is a huge fucking asshole...

It was a good episode to a decent show, go get your torture porn jollies off elsewhere.


Where I agree it be more impactful if it was more gruesome. But I don't mind the toned down version it allows them to appeal more people. It still pretty graphic in the way it does it. There is blood.
Jan 15, 2016 6:14 PM

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RealityRush said:
The show is portraying the fact that this society is barbaric, you don't need to show bloodied tits or mass amounts of rape and severed heads to accomplish that. I don't need to watch a person get torn in half to understand that it is a horrible concept. I don't need to watch a bunch of Jews dig their own graves and then their heads explode to gunfire in gory detail as they fall in the trench to realize that Hitler was an asshole and World War II was horrifying. Wanting the show to be graphic is entirely about personal gratification, unless the person demanding it has the imagination of a goldfish.

That isn't to say such darker imagery doesn't have a place. Saving Private Ryan was a great movie that really drove home the horrors of war, for example, but the excessiveness of people bitching about it on here leads me to believe it isn't because they think it would make the show have more of an impact, it really seems a lot more like personal desire. Maybe I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt it.


You are contradicting yourself. Why is the imagery in Saving Private Ryan okay, but not when it comes to this show? As you pointed out many people needed to see the movie to get the horror of war. Many people needed to see the Accused to really understand the horror of rape. It's the same thing. Many stories are improved by showing things as they really would be.

Would there be a purpose? Absolutely, people take the present for granted. They think that things today are the way things should have always been. Just read most of the history books being written: the project our issues today back upon the past (racism, sexism, almost any ~ism). They shouldn't, because it means that they cannot understand the past which in turns prevents them from appreciating the present which ultimately will mean that they repeat the past. One only needs to see the Balkans and how much a romantic vision of the past played into the conflict.

That said, I don't think this animation would have pulled off the effectiveness of the manga. The manga could get away with a panel here or there, but any animation could not achieve the same impact without dedicating some space to the scene, which in turn would destroy the balance the manga could achieve. I don't think the fans of the manga appreciate that difficulty, and personally I think the animators have found a decent balance.

Finally, why do you care what the "bitchers" reasons are? You are the one who has decided that they are "into things", why not just ignore them?

Edit: on rewatching there is one thing I would have changed. In the manga there were a group of woman chained together with Noriko, I think they should have kept that. It both impresses the idea of chattel and also that the vulgarity of the prince is far more horrific.


Exactly gore has a purpose of showing the darkness of a show or movie. You gain a different tone with it. And it does have it purpose in stories if that what your going for.
Sure some people get off on gore show but less serous show like that exist for that reason.
Jan 15, 2016 6:32 PM

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That prince dude is my boy, nothing gonna keep him down
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Exactly gore has a purpose of showing the darkness of a show or movie. You gain a different tone with it. And it does have it purpose in stories if that what your going for.
Sure some people get off on gore show but less serous show like that exist for that reason.


I think you should read the manga if you haven't, it would help understand some of the people's complaints.

Gate is not a "less serious" story. It is an interesting mixture of wish fulfillment so common in "modern person in the past" settings with a factual portrayal of how such societies were. That is what gives the series it's tension. So the fans are complaining because the animation LIGHTENED the tone of a serious manga (and not just in violence, but in other aspects as well).

Now you agree that Gate has kept more violence than most fantasies, so it isn't as if you completely disagree with the critics, it is that you disagree as to the level of violence that should be shown to give this show the edge it has. That is fine, I am with you on that argument, however saying that it wouldn't add much is one thing, thinking that the people who want it closer to the original are cretins is something different.
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I haven't watched something so refreshing in awhile, I felt like I was the one beating him.

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I don't get it, the bunny girl was raped in the last episode but in this one she act totally docile, i understand that she is probably doing this for a reason like her people or something, but it's weird that this episode she start to have sex normally with him, because in the last one she was crying and begging him to stop, only in hentai character change their mind so quick haha
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Pina is carrying the beginning part of this season so far. Never get tired of seeing how OP technology is...still waiting to get word of the Dragon.
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What an awkward cut-off into the ED.


The outrage generated by a citizen being enslaved is certainly something we all might feel. While the anime's depiction wasn't as viscerally satisfying as I'd have liked, (where was the animal brutality and furious anger?) one would certainly hope that in such a hypothetical situation, our own nation's defenders would take similarly enraged and decisive action, throwing geopolitical realities to the wind.

And yet, beyond the anime, this scenario certainly brings to mind two prominent contemporary issues: one, the longstanding controversy over the WWII comfort women, and two, that of ISIS in the Middle East.

One then must wonder, do the creators of Gate apply this moral issue only within our national boundaries? The farcical caricatures of the foreign nations in Gate might certainly make one suspect a Japanese exceptionalism at play.
Or perhaps in line with Itami's do-gooder heroic actions, we might take a universal humanist idealism? That the Japan of Gate shows humanity to its opponents and comes from a 'far bloodier world history,' surely then, the rest of Gate's Earth must be as enlightened as our reality?
Perhaps the JSDF's romanticism is as fantastical as the world of Gate and the show is meant as the impossible good-guy victory over the expedient world of political realism. A glorious triumphing over the military bureaucracy, foolhardy masses, corrupt democracy, and antiquated barbarians by a small heroic party of unlikely misfits?

While Gate has minimised the tremendous cultural and technological impacts of this clash of worlds, perhaps we can still fish out the interesting unaddressed questions.
Jan 15, 2016 7:18 PM

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Everytime JDF beats up someone and show them who's boss I get immensely satisfied. I think that might be the main reason I love watching this show. To the people complaining that the anime "lightened the tone" of the show compared to the manga should understand that Japan has laws regarding explicit content like gore or rape and anime are getting complaints left and right from the littlest things. So most anime nowadays are toned down in some ways.
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The outrage generated by a citizen being enslaved is certainly something. While the anime's depiction wasn't as viscerally satisfying as I'd have liked, one would certainly hope that in such a hypothetical situation, our own nation's defenders would take similarly furious and decisive action, throwing geopolitical realities to the wind.


Read the manga, it did it better.

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And yet, beyond the anime, this scenario certainly brings to mind two prominent contemporary issues: one, the longstanding controversy over the WWII comfort women, and two, that of ISIS in the Middle East. One then must wonder, do the creators of Gate apply this moral issue only within our national boundaries?


Moving off the show for a moment, yes Japan did apply the same standards within their own borders.

The depressing fact of comfort women is that the Japanese government was frankly far more honest than any Western culture. All armies need prostitutes, the sin of Japan was to create an efficient network to supply this need.

You ask if Japan applied this issue withing its own country. The answer is yes. When Japan surrendered to the US, in order to protect the virtue of the majority of Japanese women, they hired poor Japanese women to service the servicemen. The bitterly ironic thing was that the actual prostitutes refused to do it because they 1) didn't want to take a pay cut, and 2) were worried about their future employment opportunities.

So the Japanese government did what they did in Korea and China. They exploited the fact that many families were so economically desperate that they were willing to sell their daughters into sexual slavery. The belief that women were "forced" by the military is a myth; it is a post-rationalization to explain away the fact that Korean and Chinese governments were such epic failures that many families had to sacrifice their daughters in this way. The same is true with Japan. They sacrificed the bottom 3% to protect the upper 97%.

Ckan said:
The farcical caricatures of the foreign nations in Gate might certainly make one suspect a Japanese exceptionalism at play.


I will admit that the animation is a pale imitation of the manga, which is a pale imitation of the novel, but what exactly is the "farcical" aspect?

The rest of your post is gobbledygook. The JSDF are not presented as being particularly enlightened. They merely represent modern civilization vs ancient civilization. The reactions of Itami and his team are universal. It would not matter if it were Americans, Chinese, or even Russians (I kid, I love Russia), any modern person would repel at the brutality of the past.
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lightened the tone" of the show compared to the manga should understand that Japan has laws regarding explicit content like gore or rape and anime are getting complaints left and right from the littlest things. So most anime nowadays are toned down in some ways.


Actually no, and since I was the person who wrote "lightened the tone", allow me to respond to your statement. The laws that were passed in Tokyo are not the "law of the land". If an animation wanted to show sex or violence, they still can. The reason Gate toned it down was not legally based, rather it was commercially based. The publisher, Alphapolis, had the intelligence to realize that Gate could not only be a franchise, but also serve as a flagship publication. Thus they decided to broaden the appeal of Gate to be as wide as possible. I respect their decision.
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Feels good to see the prince getting punched. Should have done more beating the shit out of him.

Too bad, in real life, when the two Japanese hostages were captured by ISIS, Japan can't do anything.
ZapredonJan 15, 2016 8:09 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Itami was so pissed when he saw that they captured slaves from Japan :/ He left to Shino to take care of the business, she killed them in body fight and then when she used her gun, they were like "omg hoow?" and i was like ahahaha good job xD
The best scene was when she punched that prince in the face and beat him up, he was beaten by a woman and he totally deserves it.
It's feels so great to see what they are doing to protect their civilian people :)
If i'm not wrong, they have another Japanese slave? they said that she was abused by many men...when Itami will know it, he will kill them all.
Poor Piña, she couldn't even imagine that it would end like this.
And now i'm totally sure that the King and his son are di** and they will try to kill them all.
Love the attitude of Itami.

Benphyre said:
I actually pitied the bunny girl previously but this episode shows that she's a slut.


True, at first at felt bad for her but now....we can clearly see what she is.
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards."

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