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| It seems like people are forgetting that adaptions don't animate every last detail...now I don't know how they organize anime but I imagine they would outline which chapters go to which episodes beforehand, if it's already deceided that ALO will be animated (as all signs point to) the people should expect that only half the series will be SAO, this that said for only having one episode to work with I dnt see how they could have done much better, they delivered the main points well, would it have been better if they spread it out more? Of course but that really isn't possible anymore now is it, as a novel reader I just dnt see the point in complaint about it bring rushed, comparisons are envitable, this is obvious, but bashing the anime just because it doesn't Match the novel in detail is pointless, since the original source ALWAYS has more detail than the anime, it's impossible to animate every little thing. Also to anime only viewers, not everything is going to be spelled out, for example that hospital transfer was implied when they showed them outside the house in episode 1, there are plenty of examples like that, not everything will be said. Instead of assuming their is a plot hole u could try to guess what u didn't believe the episode portrayed. Something's are harder to catch than others like Kirito fighting against the boss this episode seemed easy to many when in reality it was the first time his HP hit red, that wasn't shown well thus the collateral damage of anime adaptions, not everything can be shown |
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| Damn, how characters are introduced and how they instantly let go of their role within the same episode. Not cool...I though Sachi would be playing a more critical plot than this. How obvious it is to know it was rushed. Floor 1 to Floor 35 already? Not only that, but a year already in the virtual world? Does this mean it's a year in the real world already or not? |
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| As soon as Sachi expressed her fear of death, it was pretty obvious which direction they'd be taking things... Sad, but manufactured sad - people will get desensitized quickly if they don't better develop the characters they're killing off. |
| I don't think it was rushed at all. It was actually decently adapted... for being crammed into one episode anyway. I just hope that for the actual story-line, they do slow down. |
| I don't think it was rushed at all. It was actually decently adapted... for being crammed into one episode anyway. I just hope that for the actual story-line, they do slow down. |
| :( This episode was pretty sad. Awww poor Sachi... And that whole scene was just tough to watch knowing they were all about to get wiped out. Good to see an ep like this tho where it shows the factor of fear and death again. Its too bad they didn't develop Sachi and the rest of the guild more because it could have been much more emotional. |
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| Yes I dislike when they kill off characters you've only met in the same episode, it just doesn't work. Well Sachi was so damn cute so I almost cried though :| |
| This was actually a pretty good episode. Not amazing, but better than the last couple. |
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| This was so rushed! It would have been much better if they had spent 2 episodes with the guild. At least, we would have gotten a little attached to them. |
| Pretty sad, but it would be better if they play some sad music in the last scene. There was only some silence, not enough impact. |
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GigaSPX said: How obvious it is to know it was rushed. Floor 1 to Floor 35 already? Not only that, but a year already in the virtual world? Does this mean it's a year in the real world already or not? For this part, it's not rushed that's how the story in the LN went. heck, if you properly read the LN, after the prologue chapter 1 instantly jumps to floor 78. Honestly, I've already done enough grinding in my MMO life, and I don't want to see an anime about grinding levels. And That's how the original story went, these few early episodes that you see are side stories, that's supposed to be only flashbacks in the 1st volume, but finally got written as the 2nd volume. And the purpose of the side story is to shape up our main character Kirito. This is not Accel world, everything that happens in SAO happens in real time. |
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| I'll assume this was adapted terribly. I didn't feel a thing for the characters who died. The pacing was too fast and they just skimmed all the parts that were supposed to stir any kinds of emotions giving us nowhere near enough time to become attached to any of the characters. I haven't even read this part of the novels and I know this was a terrible adaptation. The fact that this is only episode 3 makes it all the more unpleasant since I'm sure the rest of the series will be like this too. When making an anime adaptation, doing a 1:1 replica of the source material is NOT a good idea. Watching an anime is different to reading the exact same events in a novel and they should have adjusted it to make it work better in anime form. Disappointing. I guess I should just go read all the novels instead. |
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| Too damn good, I was surprised that Tetsuo committed suicide, Kirito has it so bad, he reminds me a tiny bit of Max Payne. |
Bobjones said: Also, I have a feeling that the people who died in the game aren't really dead. The game designing just fabricating everything that he showed them about what's happening in the real world, to get them to take things seriously. Nothing to support this, just a hunch. Nope it's serious bro, just wait for the ending of it. |
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| I reread the red nose reindeer chapter and the anime is really rushed.. little bit disappointed but the emotions have been showed properly... still 5/5 XD |
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| Not as rushed as Episode 2 on Aria. This episode highlighted all the important parts of Reindeer so I'm satisfied. |
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| I wish the LN readers would try to understand the viewpoints of the people who haven't read the light novels.. |
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kaimax said: For this part, it's not rushed that's how the story in the LN went. heck, if you properly read the LN, after the prologue chapter 1 instantly jumps to floor 78. Honestly, I've already done enough grinding in my MMO life, and I don't want to see an anime about grinding levels. And That's how the original story went, these few early episodes that you see are side stories, that's supposed to be only flashbacks in the 1st volume, but finally got written as the 2nd volume. And the purpose of the side story is to shape up our main character Kirito. This is not Accel world, everything that happens in SAO happens in real time. I see. I know there is the LN, but I never had the chance to pick up and read it. I've picked up this anime for the story and its high expectations that piqued my interest, just how any anime is like. Lol That must really suck though, as time flies by, your body is just rotting away... :/ |
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| Too sad and emotional. I really like the episode. |
| Seeing the people you want to protect die in front of you is a very painful experience, i hope he won't let that happen next time! So Kirito must become more stronger! It's such a waste on letting Sachi die! :( It really looks like this episode was rushed, but i don't mind, it's still sad.. :( |
wigglejelly said: So kirito was a jerk in ep2 where he become yagami light lol show off in front of people. and now all of a sudden in ep.3 we're seeing him where he already met these random people we don't even know where kirito met. And he CARES for these people...?wtf and no fight scene...although all sao fight scene is kirito screaming with slashing...yeah... Kirito cries... So random... It's like light killing people and crying. I don't get it. And why doesn't he care for the guy who he met in ep1 ? Why not protect him Or other people instead ? I knew kirito's first met friend was gay anyways. this anime is kind of fun to watch but way too cliched. The char's emotion is random. The fight is boring. It sure is a novel to anime after all. you dont seem to understand, ever since the events that took place in ep 2 kirito has been fighting all alone ever since and might of been shunned due to some people knowing he is a "beater" so when he saved the black cats and was asked to join he was happy, he was lonely and they were friendly so he wanted to help the black cats with their ambitions to become stronger however their levels were waay lower than his, in order for them to not suspect that he was a "beater" he hid his level he had spent months with the black cats and they became something like a family, he also developed a special relationship with sachi where they both relied on each other for moral support the fact that they were killed in front of him because he lied about his level and didn't tell them the dangers of the dungeon so they wouldn't suspect him, made him hate himself also keita who found out about his guilds death and realized that kirito must be have a high level to survive, cursed kirito and then committed suicide which drove kirito to hate himself even more for allowing them to die especially when he promised sachi that he would protect her and that she wont die also he does care for klein, he was his first friend but the fact is kirito is of a much higher level than klein so they can't grind together because it will only slow kirito down and klein knows it, also klein has learned a lot from kirito and is the leader of his own guild so its not like he needs kirito anyway however despite the level difference they are still good friends |
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kaimax said: 4 levels too much. It just jumps to floor 74, not 78. |
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| I didn't get it until reading the light novel of ep 3 :lol: personally think that the story is too rush ><" if it had explained more about Sachi, the Guild, especially about the development of Klein and Kirito friendship, it would be much better. |
| Great episode, the series is building really nicely. I think the episode went kind of fast, so we couldn't really understand the guild and the members. I would of also liked to see him fight the event boss.., they just skipped it.. Anyway, still nicely done. 5/5 |
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| I do not know how LN fans can be disappointed in this episode. In the source material battles were not narrated, guild members were faceless and we already know that this girl will die, because this flashback is from volume 2, where her death was mentioned in volume 1. Actually I am waiting for main story, since I liked only volume 1. It was nice take on online gaming and people interactions. The rest of series goes downhill. There is unnecessary harem, as it panders to lowest common denominator. The motivations of some characters are downright uninteresting and stupid. The story relies on ideas that requires enormous suspension of disbelief. So yeah, anime is not ruining anything yet. It just shows us stuff that was mediocre in source material. |
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| So far a very positive surprise for me this weak summer season. I was at first very sceptical about the story as a whole but.. it's actually quite well made when it comes down to storytelling, characters and atmosphere (Sachi, Klein, fear of death, loosing people around you very easily etc). I hope that SAO holds that pace up. |
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BuliTM said: I do not know how LN fans can be disappointed in this episode. In the source material battles were not narrated, guild members were faceless and we already know that this girl will die, because this flashback is from volume 2, where her death was mentioned in volume 1. Actually I am waiting for main story, since I liked only volume 1. It was nice take on online gaming and people interactions. The rest of series goes downhill. There is unnecessary harem, as it panders to lowest common denominator. The motivations of some characters are downright uninteresting and stupid. The story relies on ideas that requires enormous suspension of disbelief. So yeah, anime is not ruining anything yet. It just shows us stuff that was mediocre in source material. even though the battles were not narrated they did portray how much of an intense battle it was, kirito had never reached the red zone ever in all his fights in aincrad but in that fight he used up all his healing crystals and was in that red zone, he was so close to death but all he cared about was that revival crystal, he was even about to fight kleins guild and was even about to "kill everyone" the novel did a really good job of showing kirito at the brink of insanity and when he found out about the crystal not being able to save sachi, he fell off that brink and went mad, he wanted to take on the floors boss alone and carry on doing so until he died, to be honest i felt so sorry for kirito, the novel diid a better job at making it emotional than the anime did also even though the guild members were pretty faceless, i wouldn't say that sachi or even keita are, keita cared about his friends more than anything and when he found out they died he lost his reason to live, sachi was a kind and sincere girl who was afraid of dying but loved her guild, she also cared for kirito as he gave her hope to live and promised her she wouldn't die, so she recorded that message because if she died she knew that he would blame himself the anime failed to produce the same feeling as the novel and although it wasn't bad its nothing compared to the novel |
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| Rushing, a lot! Damn, should show that fight with monster santa! |
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| I was suspecting the treasure chest to be mimic. >_< It still turned into a trap anyway. XD I don't know how the hell the game is suppose to even revive her as a spirit since technically, legally and for all intent and purposes, dead for real in the last six months. o_O Going by the rules of rare reviving item, there is a 10 second gap between the time you died in SAO and the moment the NervGear starts to fry your brain with microwave. X_X I don't read the source materials so I'm prone to guesstimating, if you would indulge me for a bit. I was wondering what level he is at end of this episode...assuming the 49th floor is the current front line, level 60-70+ perhaps but not more than level 80? Holding all other factors constant like diminishing returns, absolutely decreasing number of players and the slow leveling up of higher character levels even in high yielding EXP fields, perhaps another 6 months to a year before 100th floor? Ah well it's just a guesstimate... |
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| Somewhat slightly above average show. I never read the LN but it's pretty obvious most stuff was cut out This show would be 100x better if there were PvP and GvG action |
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tofei said: I was suspecting the treasure chest to be mimic. >_< It still turned into a trap anyway. XD I don't know how the hell the game is suppose to even revive her as a spirit since technically, legally and for all intent and purposes, dead for real in the last six months. o_O Going by the rules of rare reviving item, there is a 10 second gap between the time you died in SAO and the moment the NervGear starts to fry your brain with microwave. X_X I don't read the source materials so I'm prone to guesstimating, if you would indulge me for a bit. I was wondering what level he is at end of this episode...assuming the 49th floor is the current front line, level 60-70+ perhaps but not more than level 80? Holding all other factors constant like diminishing returns, absolutely decreasing number of players and the slow leveling up of higher character levels even in high yielding EXP fields, perhaps another 6 months to a year before 100th floor? Ah well it's just a guesstimate... kirito was just clinging on to the hope that he could revive her, he knew it was unlikely but he wouldn't miss the chance after months of grinding he got to level 68 at the end of this episode, its pretty crazy considering the highest floor is 49 and the average levels of the clearers would be 50-60 but he only achieved such a high level by putting his life at risk such as fighting high level mobs by himself through the night which is considered mad and sacrificing sleep Lately said: Somewhat slightly above average show. I never read the LN but it's pretty obvious most stuff was cut out This show would be 100x better if there were PvP and GvG action then you can look forward to the coming episodes orange and red |
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| y u always complain about the novel and anime adaptation differences!? nevertheless, kind of liked this episode better because the animation of the first boss battle was not that really special, much better if they leave it to the viewer's imagination instead of showing such crude animation.. |
| There's no denying that it was rushed, but I don't think that ended up being a very bad thing at all. I was still sad that Sachi died, and I was still sad that his whole guild died and that member committed suicide. Yeah, they could have shown the fight with Santa, but honestly, it was more about the fact that the revival item was useless to him. I don't think anything was really missing from the episode, but I haven't read the LN. Obviously the LN is going to be better, but I'll read that once the anime is done. So far, I think this anime is doing a fantastic job of standing on its own. |
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CherryChan98 said: Maybe because I don't know the original series but... It seemed to not have much association with the plot advancement? Kinda like a filler except better than most. Maybe it'll have more connection later on but... Just in the sense that it started and ended in that one episode, nothing else was mentioned. It's because this episode and the previous and the next are "side stories", just made to explain the development of Kirito. It's not included in the 1st volume, where the main story is, but in volume 2 where it's a bunch of side stories explaining the events before chapter 1 in the LN. |
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| Wahhh I really loved the Black Cats! I'm so sad they died!! Especially Sachi, she was such a sweetie. D: Cried my eyes out. |
| This series moves at the speed of light lol Really liked the treasure chest scene. |
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Veethorn said: This series moves at the speed of light lol Really liked the treasure chest scene. A Dark Souls Mimic would've been nice in that situation |
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kamikaze_1996 said: BuliTM said: I do not know how LN fans can be disappointed in this episode. In the source material battles were not narrated, guild members were faceless and we already know that this girl will die, because this flashback is from volume 2, where her death was mentioned in volume 1. Actually I am waiting for main story, since I liked only volume 1. It was nice take on online gaming and people interactions. The rest of series goes downhill. There is unnecessary harem, as it panders to lowest common denominator. The motivations of some characters are downright uninteresting and stupid. The story relies on ideas that requires enormous suspension of disbelief. So yeah, anime is not ruining anything yet. It just shows us stuff that was mediocre in source material. even though the battles were not narrated they did portray how much of an intense battle it was, kirito had never reached the red zone ever in all his fights in aincrad but in that fight he used up all his healing crystals and was in that red zone, he was so close to death but all he cared about was that revival crystal, he was even about to fight kleins guild and was even about to "kill everyone" the novel did a really good job of showing kirito at the brink of insanity and when he found out about the crystal not being able to save sachi, he fell off that brink and went mad, he wanted to take on the floors boss alone and carry on doing so until he died, to be honest i felt so sorry for kirito, the novel diid a better job at making it emotional than the anime did also even though the guild members were pretty faceless, i wouldn't say that sachi or even keita are, keita cared about his friends more than anything and when he found out they died he lost his reason to live, sachi was a kind and sincere girl who was afraid of dying but loved her guild, she also cared for kirito as he gave her hope to live and promised her she wouldn't die, so she recorded that message because if she died she knew that he would blame himself the anime failed to produce the same feeling as the novel and although it wasn't bad its nothing compared to the novel The fights in the novel were not represented well as it was simple information along lines "they did well because of Kirito, who hid his level." The fight with Apostate Nicolais was not described in novels - only what happened before and after fight itself. The dead of the guild was also emotionless " They panicked and get killed one by one by monsters, and finally girl got chopped last in front of Kirito." Those are not original lines, but lets face it - it was not deep or well explained. Even the entire scene with guild leader cursing Kirito and jumping off tower was described in two sentences. I can hardly call that emotional. Kirito's emotions were better represented in LN and message from Sachi was also well done. However those were only things worthwhile in volume 2 - other side stories, especially with Sillica and that blacksmith girl (I do not remember her name right now) - were utterly pointless. CherryChan98 said: Maybe because I don't know the original series but... It seemed to not have much association with the plot advancement? Kinda like a filler except better than most. Maybe it'll have more connection later on but... Just in the sense that it started and ended in that one episode, nothing else was mentioned. Yes, it is kind of a filler. In the source material all main story, from the beginning to the end, is told in volume 1. However main story is a little confusing, as it does 2 years time skip very early on (just after Kirito decides to go to another village). The death of Black Cat guild is only mentioned as a reason for Kirito's antisocial tendencies. Volume 2, which contains side stories about what happened in time skip that occurred in first volume,provides details about this sad event and Kirito's emotions. P.S.: I really wish they skipped those other side stories that took place in the time skip. |
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BuliTM said: kamikaze_1996 said: BuliTM said: I do not know how LN fans can be disappointed in this episode. In the source material battles were not narrated, guild members were faceless and we already know that this girl will die, because this flashback is from volume 2, where her death was mentioned in volume 1. Actually I am waiting for main story, since I liked only volume 1. It was nice take on online gaming and people interactions. The rest of series goes downhill. There is unnecessary harem, as it panders to lowest common denominator. The motivations of some characters are downright uninteresting and stupid. The story relies on ideas that requires enormous suspension of disbelief. So yeah, anime is not ruining anything yet. It just shows us stuff that was mediocre in source material. even though the battles were not narrated they did portray how much of an intense battle it was, kirito had never reached the red zone ever in all his fights in aincrad but in that fight he used up all his healing crystals and was in that red zone, he was so close to death but all he cared about was that revival crystal, he was even about to fight kleins guild and was even about to "kill everyone" the novel did a really good job of showing kirito at the brink of insanity and when he found out about the crystal not being able to save sachi, he fell off that brink and went mad, he wanted to take on the floors boss alone and carry on doing so until he died, to be honest i felt so sorry for kirito, the novel diid a better job at making it emotional than the anime did also even though the guild members were pretty faceless, i wouldn't say that sachi or even keita are, keita cared about his friends more than anything and when he found out they died he lost his reason to live, sachi was a kind and sincere girl who was afraid of dying but loved her guild, she also cared for kirito as he gave her hope to live and promised her she wouldn't die, so she recorded that message because if she died she knew that he would blame himself the anime failed to produce the same feeling as the novel and although it wasn't bad its nothing compared to the novel The fights in the novel were not represented well as it was simple information along lines "they did well because of Kirito, who hid his level." The fight with Apostate Nicolais was not described in novels - only what happened before and after fight itself. The dead of the guild was also emotionless " They panicked and get killed one by one by monsters, and finally girl got chopped last in front of Kirito." Those are not original lines, but lets face it - it was not deep or well explained. Even the entire scene with guild leader cursing Kirito and jumping off tower was described in two sentences. I can hardly call that emotional. Kirito's emotions were better represented in LN and message from Sachi was also well done. However those were only things worthwhile in volume 2 - other side stories, especially with Sillica and that blacksmith girl (I do not remember her name right now) - were utterly pointless. CherryChan98 said: Maybe because I don't know the original series but... It seemed to not have much association with the plot advancement? Kinda like a filler except better than most. Maybe it'll have more connection later on but... Just in the sense that it started and ended in that one episode, nothing else was mentioned. Yes, it is kind of a filler. In the source material all main story, from the beginning to the end, is told in volume 1. However main story is a little confusing, as it does 2 years time skip very early on (just after Kirito decides to go to another village). The death of Black Cat guild is only mentioned as a reason for Kirito's antisocial tendencies. Volume 2, which contains side stories about what happened in time skip that occurred in first volume,provides details about this sad event and Kirito's emotions. P.S.: I really wish they skipped those other side stories that took place in the time skip. as ive already said in my previous post the anime did a better job at showing how hopeless the situation was when they were trapped, but they failed to give time for the character sachi to grow and get to know her better and was essentially rushed, also even though their deaths were explained flat out, it left a bigger impact then the anime did and even though you might say it wasn't emotional, i personally found it very sad and hard to read, it was mostly because it was being told in kirito's perspective and how he truly felt that it was his fault that they died, he blamed himself for their deaths and wanted redemption and was willing to take any punishment given if he ever revived her it was so much more sadder hearing it from his perspective and listening him talk about his guilt also scilica and lisbet are not pointless, scilica serves as a good intro to the and Lisbet introduces i wouldn't call either characters pointless and they fill in some of the blanks of what happened in the timeline of Aincrad |
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