Is Saitama stronger than Goku?

Tlahuizcapante said:

Username said:
So who the fuck is stronger? Saitama or goku?

TonyTheme said:
]He's just plain faster without IT. You got people traveling across light years in Super. Saitama wouldn't even see him coming.

ichii_1 said:
Doesn't matter, just cause you have toon force doesn't mean you win.

In character fight-
bugs: "walks up to saitama menacingly"
saitama: "sound of rabbit getting one punched"

MightyM16 said:
here is no way your comparision could work, we don't know the total extent of Saitama's power, he always has been holding back

Rekien said:
Saitama>>>>>>> random guy with a ring beam gun> goku

Rekien said:
Saitama is not a serious character, he's a parody , he is meant to be unmatched, its like comparing One-above-all with hulk.

ichii_1 said:

Doesn't matter, just cause you have toon force doesn't mean you win.

In character fight-
bugs: "walks up to saitama menacingly"
saitama: "sound of rabbit getting one punched"

DrGeroCreation said:




We don't know the extent of Goku's power as well and Saitama did get serious to beat

MightyM16 said:


LOL, we know Goku's limits, he just always keeps breaking them up and reaching new heights but he isn't even the strongest one of his franchise and was also was hurt by a freaking laser LMAO

and Saitama vs
huh

Forgot about the part that guy said Saitama was still holding back? looks like you did

Username said:
So who the fuck is stronger? Saitama or goku?

DrGeroCreation said:
We know Goku's limits yet he keeps reaching new heights? If he keeps reaching new heights then he has no limits.

dhaiku said:
i just realise
krilin has gone trough the same trainign as saitama
pushups setups running everyday at master hoshis place
and he became bald

so krilin is stronger than goku!

Wuddowan said:
Is there anything on topic here?

DrGeroCreation said:
. Saitama does not have toonforce. He only one shots his enemies because all his enemies are shit. Current Goku could one shot all of them as well.

. No limits does not work in Saitama's favor because Goku has no limits as well. He is constantly training getting stronger and unlocking new super saiyan forms.

. As I explained in my thread http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1450216 (which got locked because it revealed the cold hard truth about Saitama) Saitama is a bare bones Superman. It takes Superman's most powerful incarnations like Golden Age Superman, Superman Prime one million to beat current Goku. A bare bones Superman like Saitama cannot beat current Goku.

. Goku has firepower and is faster in combat thanks to IT. All Saitama has are his punches while Goku can spam all manner of ki blasts . Sure spirit bomb would not be effective because Saitama is a good guy but other ki attacks should work. Goku with IT is also faster than Saitama because IT is instant and he has used it in combat.

TLDR Goku reks Saitama. It doesn't matter if Saitama is a parody character.

DrGeroCreation said:
We know Goku's limits yet he keeps reaching new heights? If he keeps reaching new heights then he has no limits. It doesn't matter if he isn't the strongest in his verse what matters is that he is top tier level in his verse and the DBZ verse being above the OPM verse. That was obviously not a normal laser, use your head and Saitama doesn't even have any lasers or has any laser ability so bringing that up is of no relevance. He was holding back but still got serious to defeat him by considering his normal punch was not one shotting him. This is for a villain who is only around Namek saga first form Frieza level.

Veldin461 said:


Pft, everyone knows that Krillin shaved his head... that's cheating and that's why Krillin will never get as strong as the DBZ tops

papsoshea said:
the origin of his power explained doesn't mean it's not toonforce though. toonforce comes from the character's distinct understanding that they're being observed by an audience, and that audience desires a comedic outcome to the character's predicament. the ability of a character to tap into the toonforce is directly proportionate to their ability to make something funny happen when resolving conflict. the toonforce is just an underlying constant in many fictional universes, as electromagnetism and gravity are to our universe. in this case,

>powerful villain appears
>beats everyone
>saitama arrives
>one punch
>lulz

papsoshea said:
toonforce is like jerry from tom and jerry, he gets blown to smithereens almost every encounter with jerry for shits and giggles, that's the gimmick but in this universe... he can't die. it's like a cartoon character that has an unlimited pocket space for the sake of making us laugh. that's one punch man.

nasukon said:
Saitama's punch is 9 times more powerful than the Tsar Bomba which was never detonated at its full capacity of 100 MT. basically he is a walking nuclear weapon.

malki said:


and that was just Goku's after image..XD

saitama_is_OP said:
an interview was done with the author who said that one all out punch as of now from saitama can destroy half the universe (i know pretty crazy).

MightyM16 said:



then...

spoiler for upcoming episodes


result:

ziggy_Z said:
That awkward moment when a planet busting attack doesn't even kill Namek Saga Goku. Keep pitching. Much like Saitama is to Saiyan Saga Goku.

ziggy_Z said:
That awkward moment when a planet busting attack doesn't even kill Namek Saga Goku. Keep pitching. Much like Saitama is to Saiyan Saga Goku.

bastek66 said:
The Ultimate Manchildren Debate

14599541a said:
Saitama jumped from the moon to Earth in 1.5 seconds with out trying. The distance from the moon to the Earth is 384,400km. That means that Saitama moved at 256,266km/s. The speed of light is 299,792km/s. So therefore Saitama moved at 85% the speed of light without trying

ziggy_Z said:
And Goku moves between planets almost instantaneously.

Haziq47 said:


wrong,he can't move that fast,thats teleporting.
its different in that he cant move as fast in any of his fights.

also,considering that goku has physical defence on par with a little stronger humans without his ki as was shown how he got owned by a laser,
at the start of the battle he would be using very little ki which would be the reason he gets blown to bits by one punch.

ziggy_Z said:

Lol. He can move as fast as that when he fights, as evident against Cell; Cell was reading his Rapid Movement the entire time and matching blow-for-blow, until Goku used Warp Kamehameha which Cell couldn't even perceive.

Once again: Lol. Goku will sense Saitama's intense pressure right from jump street and either A) evade him with ease, or B) Ki-Up and grab his fist.

BTdubs, you misconceive Goku getting shot by Sorbet's laser ring -- not surprising since you think Goku in CQC can't move at IT speed. The only reason the laser ring worked because Goku had lowered his guard since he had Frieza at his mercy. In the entirety of the 'Z' franchise, he has never began a full-fledged fight with his guard down, his character has always been to start the fight without underestimating his opponent (considering he can sense power and how it can be lowered for deception and all); only during the fight (mostly after) when he shows his opponents mercy is when his guard is lowered and susceptible to loldidthatjusthappen.

Haziq47 said:
nice try,but no,he can't move that fast during his fights as that would mean he is way faster than beerus,whch he is not.

you dbz fans really like to bloat inconsistencies around just so give the illusion that goku can beat someone.

and he got owned by a laser period.

also,as was shown his defence is no different than an average human without his ki and nothing you say can change that.