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casiopao said: Well, they need the two big character to fight the battle everyone wanted. Even if it is a bad one.T_T Nobody asked for a bad battle. :( It's better not have seen it, in my opinion. |
If Inaho does something like this to Slaine, AZ Season 2 will be the best anime of the year. |
| Good to see every slain apologist whinng about "Plotholes" or "Inconsistencies" Easy o see the salt bcause arguments at depending that dictator ran out. |
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awditty said: deadoptimist said: It was embarrassing to watch. A silly matrix-style was the last thing this show needed. I won't even go into the inconsistency with Inaho's shooting skills. It is more or less established that his shooting is extremely accurate, so why can't he hit Slaine? It's not that Slaine runs especially fast or anything. I had a similar thought during the fight and later realized Inaho was near death. But the eye is a device, it either calcualtes or not, it was operational, so why couldn't he do what he had done many times previously? It was a dire situation. He had some power left as well, since he spent it later on scanning. casiopao said: Well Aldnoah had been kinda famous on this part here. We never ask for Inaho soloing most battle with the help of his eye. Aldnoah serve us that on silver platter. We asked for more explanation on Lemrina meeting with Seylum. We never get that. I kinda feel Barouhcreuz is going to died pathetically next episode here.T_T Also where is Mazurekkkkk. Some people definitely do. But yeah, A.Z does things its own way, its own shitty way. I've been meaning to ask what people, who wanted to see the conversation between Lemrina ad Asseylum, think about it being omitted like nobody's business. Yeah, Barouhcruz will die for sure. Unfortunately. While the design of his kat is not too good, the man himself is interesting enough. I'd like to see more of him working with Harklight and possibly helping/beig condescending toward a new low-born knight. Harklight finally enjoying some killing is the best part of this ep. Mazuurek did his part, Mazuurek can leave. >< Kloncine is his younger copy, so I don't see any place for Mazuurek in further development. Maybe he'll cameo in case they arrange a loyalist force out of the orbital knights. |
KamiCity said: when it comes to shooting Inaho, I personally don't believe Slaine did anything wrong concerning Inaho. I never cared for Inaho untill he actually smiled before Slaine shot him but I didn't mind at all. I would have shot Inaho in the back without him even knowing I was there if I had been in Slaine's shoes as a Vers soldier. Slaine's reasoning to shoot Inaho were selfish and dumb but not at all wrong. Now this second season,I can't say where they are going with this because it seems Slaine was going the Vers route of just eliminating the Terrans and taking the planet for Vers in which he would then reform. Now it seems he's taken a third route that I contradicts anything he has ever done but I am enjoying him going full villain by totally flipping on Asseylum.Would you look at that, first 5 pages of comments are the exact same people who say they hate this show every single week and yet can't stop watching. Plus there is seriously someone still defending slaine o.O seriously, I mean i get some people like him as a villian but there is still someone saying "slaine did nothing wrong". |
| What the hell just happened? The eye actually speaks for Inaho? Everything was going relatively good until that scene. It was almost funny how Seylum talked to Inaho... and at the same time she didn't really talk to him. Anyway, I really liked how Inaho and Slaine's roles seem to have reversed, and with the exact quotes from S1, too. ''If you were only my enemy I wouldn't have a reason to hate you'', that line was brilliant. Also, Lemrina is a much better character than the naive and innocent Asseylum. The fact that her heart apparently belongs to the people of Vers was both touching and lame, absolutely selfless characters like her aren't that appealing to me. The episode would have been good if the Eyenaho part was completely rewritten and the animation wasn't so sketchy. 3.5/5 |
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skudoops said: You know, I wish people would stop lumping others into band camps. Just because someone doesn't like inaho's character doesn't mean they like slaine's. Slaine is just way less ridiculous. Except he isn't. The boy has been from day one a black hole of misfortune disaster and utter stupidity and incompetence |
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skudoops said: Darklight0303 said: Except he isn't. The boy has been from day one a black hole of misfortune disaster and utter stupidity and incompetence How does that make him more ridiculous than the dude with the eye that can see a space battle in an asteroid field from earth and control an entire squad of mechs, make them target different enemies and simultaneously kill all of them? again, the eye is grounded in real science, as is most of stuf Inaho did. And it has a logical downside. Slaine's bullshit future predict mech that can shoot enemy 20 hours into future is NOT. If there's gary stu, it is slaine. |
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| Okay, I can get Inaho having a huge crush on the Princess, even an unhealthy obsession. He's crazy. The Princess also declaring her undying love for a guy she knew for all of maybe a month? Fuck you princess only Yuki-nee has any right to say that shit to him! Yuki x Inaho forever. |
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CookingPriest said: baki502 said: That catapult mode of the Deucalion has to be the most retarded and backwards way not to mention extremely inefficient of propelling Kataphrakts forward. Seriously a horizontal catapult just like in the medieval ages, using centrifugal force? Really? that's how space works, mate. Till we get rail tech that is how acceleration would work swn32 said: Well, I remember being taught in school that the only way to accelerate enough for objects on orbit (built with our current tech) is to orbit the planet for a while. Once they gain enough acceleration they can escape the gravity of the planet and go to the moon, mars or any other place.baki502 said: What are you talking about? Whats that got to do with the fact that the propelling technique for Kataphrakts of the Deucalion is extremely retarded, time consuming, inaccurate and on the level of the medieval ages? How is it inaccurate? Then again since you haven't presented alternatives, I don't really expect you to answer that question. They are likely applying the same concept so their Kats can gain more acceleration (so they reach the front faster) rather than the usual way. The way the ship transformed reminded me of Macross. I guess if they would have built a huge rail gun they could just use it to fire shells rather than Kats. Darkerthandark said: The Deucalion controls gravity, and as far as we have seen it can only control the gravity around itself, perhaps the crew don't know how to use it or the engineers who built it didn't know how to tweak it as weapon too... but I'd assume it is the latter because nothing has been said about it (or is the ace card for the last chapter?).Darklight0303 said: In case you missed it, Vers have the Aldnoah card Note, the Deucarion also had Aldnoah if you have forgotten |
skudoops said: CookingPriest said: again, the eye is grounded in real science, as is most of stuf Inaho did. And it has a logical downside. Slaine's bullshit future predict mech that can shoot enemy 20 hours into future is NOT. If there's gary stu, it is slaine. Yes everything that inaho's eye does is can be done..... but not by one device and for sure not one device that small. The functions of the eye aren't outlandish, the fact that the eye can perform all of them is. Also slaine's future prediction mech has nothing to do with slaine himself, not only that its power is in line with the rules of the show. I mean you had a dude that was able to infinitely clone himself and one that was walking around with an anti-matter shield... a mech with very limited future prediction isn't really out of the question in this world. Funny enough Inaho has used his eye for future prediction and even kept up with slaine when they fought in the earlier episode where saazbuum died, in fact, he even hit him. Think about that for a minute, inaho kept toe to toe with a mech that could predict the damn future.... I could make a LOT of comments*, but A, Inaho hit Slaine there because they both knew a hit could happen because Slaine was appearing over the asteroid, and B, BOTH were surprised when the hit actually happened. (Slaine nearly dodged a guaranteed hit) *OK I'll make one comment, what processor** are you running? and why is focused computation somehow magic to you? **(AHEM) edit |
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casiopao said: He said it was based in real science, not that it existed in our time. That's part of the SF elements of the show and there is no need to complain for that.[...] CookingPriest said: again, the eye is grounded in real science, as is most of stuf Inaho did. And it has a logical downside. Slaine's bullshit future predict mech that can shoot enemy 20 hours into future is NOT. If there's gary stu, it is slaine. Umm. I never heard of real science super Eye which can consist from, adding zoom in mechaninc, able to read people's personality, lie detector, thermal detector, 3D model calculator, super mapping system and finally automatic AI though. Edit: Uups forget that the eye also can check girls weight and multi control all other mechs.^_^ It is like if someone complains about Geordi La Forge VISOR and all the stuff it does because no one heard of such thing at the time; curiously, VISOR has some of Inaho's eye functions and also give constant pain to his user and that was thought 27 years ago... why a writer wouldn't try to use a more advanced idea now we are at 2015? I'm sure he isn't the only one who came up with that idea. I'm also sure other authors would have used it, but if you have read a book featuring such device, you wouldn't be complaining. |
| @Darkerthandark And so what? If you want to see a show based only in the current state of technology because otherwise you would hate it, you would avoid SF like plage, yet you are here. It is like saying the world was going to end because the movie titled 2012 said so. Guess what, we are in 2015 and nothing happened. These shows and movies are made to entertain, if you can't stand sci-fi why you are watching the show and complaining about it's sci-fi elements? |
Darkerthandark said: blackbishop said: @Darkerthandark And so what? If you want to see a show based only in the current state of technology because otherwise you would hate it, you would avoid SF like plage, yet you are here. It is like saying the world was going to end because the movie titled 2012 said so. Guess what, we are in 2015 and nothing happened. These shows and movies are made to entertain, if you can't stand sci-fi why you are watching the show and complaining about it's sci-fi elements? Well, even in context of this show it still makes little sense. The Terrans are said to be techincally inferior to Vers, yet they have all this tech that the Vers don't have. And not to mention how Inaho seems to be the only one using this tech while all the other terrans seem to not use this tech at all Because everyone would jump at the opportunity to jack a computer directly to their brain. |
Darkerthandark said: Darklight0303 said: Because everyone would jump at the opportunity to jack a computer directly to their brain. They don't need to have eye implant to have this tech. They could apply it to their mechs or ships. I see no reason why not since they did pimp up an eyeball with tech, why can't they do the same with their other things. 1) most of mechs do have same features as shown by shitload of monitors. 2) Computational power of the BRAIN Is far above any computer on earth. |
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casiopao said: Maledict said: "The fact that her heart apparently belongs to the people of Vers was both touching and lame, absolutely selfless characters like her aren't that appealing to me." The moment she said that, she kinda confess to Inaho there. How was that a confession to Inaho in any way? |
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Darkerthandark said: There are things that doesn't make sense to me as well, like why there wasn't support from their orbital castles while deploying the kats from the Orbital Knights, like Mazuurek, Orga and Selnakis. I'd like to think that they were overconfident and didn't request backup, but once they discovered the threat they would have called reinforcements. It was too convenient for UEF and our heroes.blackbishop said: ... Well, even in context of this show it still makes little sense. The Terrans are said to be techincally inferior to Vers, yet they have all this tech that the Vers don't have. And not to mention how Inaho seems to be the only one using this tech while all the other terrans seem to not use this tech at all Inaho's eye is very convenient for the plot as well, but I guess that's the benefit of being a hero of the story, it couldn't be granted a Vers kat because Inaho symbolize the "perfect" Earth soldier(or I think that's the idea), so, using a foreign kat would be problematic; instead they gave him the eye upgrade. He needed something to make him fight in the same level than Slaine in Tharsis, otherwise fans would complain because Slaine is clearly better and why Inaho isn't dead yet and his new strategies would be impossible without his new eye. Perhaps if Inaho wouldn't have lost his eye(or wouldn't gain the cybernetic one), he would have lost another friend in the first or second fight of cour 2 and that would have been interesting to watch... but that's enough "what if" from me. The difference between technology in Vers and UEF happens because Earth stopped to supply things to Vers and they stopped relations at all (regardless who is at fault at that), so they started constructing and developing their own stuff in all senses, which ended being different from what Earthlings have. I guess you could say it is like why in the past French army relied in cavalry while English army preferred the bow, because cultural and regional differences. |
CookingPriest said: The brain is the most advanced "computer" so far, it has unlimited memory capacity and for some people it allows to make operations at the same speed than computers (those we call geniuses). The eye is likely to use the brain as a main processor to resolve any type of complex calculus, while the eye itself has it's own processor to make small calculus and to be able to work by itself in case the brain is "off".Darkerthandark said: They don't need to have eye implant to have this tech. They could apply it to their mechs or ships. I see no reason why not since they did pimp up an eyeball with tech, why can't they do the same with their other things. 1) most of mechs do have same features as shown by shitload of monitors. 2) Computational power of the BRAIN Is far above any computer on earth. Now I mention this, I remember some people noticing how the eye worked by itself when Inaho went to dreamland, it was because the eye has some sort of autonomy, I think we can explain that behavior using elements from our current tech (not talking about cybernetic implants XD): The DS/DSi were nintendo handheld game consoles which had a problem because people used specialized cards to play "unauthorized" software, so they updated the DS/DSi firmware from time to time to prevent this. These updates caused the card to become useless and wasn't read at all, and while the firmware of the card could be updated to make it work again, the card needed to be updated in a non-upgraded device. But later, one team created a similar card, more expensive given the prices of other cards, that included it's own processor, not a great one, but nonetheless it was useful to the card itself. Every time the handheld firmware was updated, this new card also stopped to work, however, because it had it's own processor, it wasn't dead; it could be patched in an updated handheld unlike their peers. So, it is better to think of Inaho's eye like the latter card (a tool), and not like a being with it's own conscience (unless the series points otherwise). |
blackbishopMar 15, 2015 1:08 PM
blackbishop said: There are things that doesn't make sense to me as well, like why there wasn't support from their orbital castles while deploying the kats from the Orbital Knights, like Mazuurek, Orga and Selnakis. There were originally only 37 orbital castles. most landed on earth. By the time Slaine declared his new empire, only* maybe a dozen remained in orbit, and only the 3 castles on earth had sworn fealty to Slaine at that point. *guesstimate since numbers aren't known |
blackbishop said: CookingPriest said: The brain is the most advanced "computer" so far, it has unlimited memory capacity and for some people it allows to make operations at the same speed than computers (those we call geniuses). The eye is likely to use the brain as a main processor to resolve any type of complex calculus, while the eye itself has it's own processor to make small calculus and to be able to work by itself in case the brain is "off".1) most of mechs do have same features as shown by shitload of monitors. 2) Computational power of the BRAIN Is far above any computer on earth. Now I mention this, I remember some people noticing how the eye worked by itself when Inaho went to dreamland, it was because the eye has some sort of autonomy, I think we can explain that behavior using elements from our current tech (not talking about cybernetic implants XD): The DS/DSi were nintendo handheld game consoles which had a problem because people used specialized cards to play "unauthorized" software, so they updated the DS/DSi firmware from time to time to prevent this. These updates caused the card to become useless and wasn't read at all, and while the firmware of the card could be updated to make it work again, the card needed to be updated in a non-upgraded device. But later, one team created a similar card, more expensive given the prices of other cards, that included it's own processor, not a great one, but nonetheless it was useful to the card itself. Every time the handheld firmware was updated, this new card also stopped to work, however, because it had it's own processor, it wasn't dead; it could be patched in an updated handheld unlike their peers. So, it is better to think of Inaho's eye like the latter card (a tool), and not like a being with it's own conscience (unless the series points otherwise). Exactly. There was nothing showing any real autonomy and conscience in this episode's development |
Kelgair said: blackbishop said: ... There were originally only 37 orbital castles. most landed on earth. By the time Slaine declared his new empire, only* maybe a dozen remained in orbit, and only the 3 castles on earth had sworn fealty to Slaine at that point. *guesstimate since numbers aren't known Yeah, you are right. However, these counts had their castles on Earth. I can understand they could have had a better support if the castles were flying instead of being stationed, and I understand the objective of a forward base is not to move around any time someone pleases (which is why they remain stationed), but they haven't shown any other unit available for defense. In space there are these smaller and weaker kats but in Earth they are alone? I guess we will never know :(. I also can understand, given how powerful the Vers kats are, than weaker troops might be a nuisance rather than a help, so they fight alone and die alone. In example, when Selnakis was being under heavy fire and couldn't hit the Deucalion, he should have called for support from his castle, perhaps he was just proud. It is like that battle of Hastings in the Dark Age, where the King Godwinson just stood ground only with his vassals, he refused to fall back and he could have called the Anglo-Saxon militia for help but he didn't do it, so he lost his life at the hands of the army of William the Conqueror. |
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Neobosco said: Totally what I was remembering when that scene came up. Well, he knows his politics, its obvious he'll lie to anyone with a straight face just to get what he needs. I should rewatch both Code Geass to remind myself there's only one Lelouch. On another hand, I didn't expect that plot-twist at the end. I mean, I knew Asseylum and Crutheos son would meet eventually but not that way, was too Deus Ex Machina for me. Anyone knows if both seasons will get a dub?? |
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lablackmamba said: Neobosco said: Totally what I was remembering when that scene came up. Well, he knows his politics, its obvious he'll lie to anyone with a straight face just to get what he needs. I should rewatch both Code Geass to remind myself there's only one Lelouch. On another hand, I didn't expect that plot-twist at the end. I mean, I knew Asseylum and Crutheos son would meet eventually but not that way, was too Deus Ex Machina for me. Anyone knows if both seasons will get a dub?? yeah sorry no. If anything, Slaine is a mix of Suzashit and Nina. Inaho is parts of Lelouch as well as Gundam's Char Aznable. |
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| Well, that's a rather severe case of bipolar personality disorder... I wonder, to what extent can the 'analytical engine' control Inaho's body and mind. |
CookingPriest said: yeah sorry no. If anything, Slaine is a mix of Suzashit and Nina. Inaho is parts of Lelouch as well as Gundam's Char Aznable. Lelouch was the idealist and Suzaku was the fighter Slaine is the idealist and Inaho is the fighter. Just because you hate Slaine more than anything on this earth doesn't mean you can deny parallels between characters. I'm sure you can compare Slaine and Suzaku, but you can also compare Slaine and Lelouch. You can also do it vice versa with Inaho. Don't let your bias cloud your judgment. |
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lablackmamba said: Lol I agree with that sentiment. Quoting Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand, "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice Doggie!' till you can find a bigger stick".Neobosco said: Totally what I was remembering when that scene came up. Well, he knows his politics, its obvious he'll lie to anyone with a straight face just to get what he needs. ... CookingPriest said: I also think it is more similar to Suzaku or Nina rather than Lelouch.lablackmamba said: yeah sorry no. If anything, Slaine is a mix of Suzashit and Nina. Inaho is parts of Lelouch as well as Gundam's Char Aznable. Also, we don't know how much Harklight is involved with their strategies and plans so we can't say for sure that Slaine graduated from the cunning academy with honors by himself. But what is certain is that Slaine won't have a "happy" ending unlike Nina or Suzaku, just like this quote from Boris Yeltsin says: “You can make a throne of bayonets, but you can't sit on it for long”. Savethebestforu said: You can say Slaine now is a fighter too since season 2. Also, you could say the same for Inaho(he's an idealist) according to what the cursed eye told in the last episode.CookingPriest said: yeah sorry no. If anything, Slaine is a mix of Suzashit and Nina. Inaho is parts of Lelouch as well as Gundam's Char Aznable. Lelouch was the idealist and Suzaku was the fighter Slaine is the idealist and Inaho is the fighter. Just because you hate Slaine more than anything on this earth doesn't mean you can deny parallels between characters. I'm sure you can compare Slaine and Suzaku, but you can also compare Slaine and Lelouch. You can also do it vice versa with Inaho. Don't let your bias cloud your judgment. |
blackbishopMar 15, 2015 2:49 PM
| Not sure if somebody already posted this but I think y'all should read this http://good7luck.tumblr.com/post/113689819645/slaine-never-said-she-is-a-means-to-achieving-my |
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gedata said: Not sure if somebody already posted this but I think y'all should read this http://good7luck.tumblr.com/post/113689819645/slaine-never-said-she-is-a-means-to-achieving-my Doesn't make the scene that much better really. |
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