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Apr 15, 2021 8:57 PM
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Imagine waking up dazed and confused, realizing you were killed by a certain family on a whim because they wanted power, and then other people chime in and say "aye yo chill" when you get justifiably angry.

This pacing is worse than I thought it would be, and dear god I hope that when they finally slow the hell down this becomes a great ass show, because honestly this just isn't that fun of an experience when the original adaptation still exists. It'd be better to just watch the original and wait for this one to finally get to the parts where the original adaptation started to go into anime original territory, like I'm actually straight up scared of how they're gonna adapt Ren's story, I have a feeling they're gonna cover it in the span of like one episode. I just can't imagine this being someone's first exposure to Shaman King.

I'm not even blaming the staff on this one, I'm blaming whoever the fuck only gave them 52 episodes. If you're gonna give something the Brotherhood treatment, at least give it the same amount of episodes, and that's at the very least.
Apr 15, 2021 9:19 PM
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Sorry, but I'm dropping this. The animation is lackluster, the pacing feels too fast, and the worldbuilding and characters seem dull. I'll try to read the manga at some point. Hopefully these are just problems with this adaptation in particular and won't be an issue in the manga.
Apr 15, 2021 9:27 PM

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the chapter goes so fast that It's tiring, no much animation at all, I wish at chapter 5 or 7 it's start to calm down. this anime is absolutely made to manga's fans because almost there's not explanation from the characters.

really is tooo fast >.>
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Apr 15, 2021 9:31 PM
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Tao Jun is at least sexy hot though but damn everything about this anime is below average lol
Apr 15, 2021 9:49 PM

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that fight with pyron was hella sick. we learned that body's can be immortalised and shaman's can control it as they wish.
anna girl is great definitely my fav character now
Apr 15, 2021 9:56 PM

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Another bad episode and there's no sign of it getting better. Let's see how many weeks I could last before dropping this show.

MoonDragon72 said:
Sorry, but I'm dropping this. The animation is lackluster, the pacing feels too fast, and the worldbuilding and characters seem dull. I'll try to read the manga at some point. Hopefully these are just problems with this adaptation in particular and won't be an issue in the manga.

Nah, the manga is good.
Apr 15, 2021 10:23 PM
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My god! Too many stupid cuts it hurts my eye! Even the mini training arc of yoh was not included,just showed in flashbacks wtf!
Apr 16, 2021 12:34 AM
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What is exactly Manta's purpose in this show?


Patience and you'll find out haha

This episode was good, enjoyed what it had to show. Pacing has seemed to sort itself out which I'm happy with.
Apr 16, 2021 1:34 AM

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GandalfEr said:
My god! Too many stupid cuts it hurts my eye! Even the mini training arc of yoh was not included,just showed in flashbacks wtf!


The mini training arc was filler, of course it was not included. The right mindset to watch this is to forget the old anime and compare it to the manga and in regards to that, this anime has been an almost frame by frame adaptation. And thank God they did it like this, this fight was way too long in the manga for its importance in the plot.
Apr 16, 2021 4:18 AM

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Best girl is here. Loved how they introduced and portrayed Anna here. Can't say the same for Jun tho which is sad. Pacing was still really fast. I just hope it slows down a bit later on. But well good episode.

Also the tease




Man when the anime enters Osorezan Revoir arc, it's gonna hit so hard. Can't wait. Well that's still a long way to go.
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Apr 16, 2021 4:33 AM

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Personally, when i start watching a new series i know nothing about, all i knew about Shaman King was it had a anime adaptation a while back, i tend to not expect anything, however with shaman king i think itll turn out to be a show that holds a special place in my heart, maybe like how pokemon does. To me it has the same kinda feel, though im a little older now lol
Episode 3 was hella good! I like the pace of the show, information isnt too hard to pick up either! Ill definitely be watching until ep 52^^
Apr 16, 2021 4:36 AM

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Another episode of Manta being abused lmao, good episode.

Anna is really cool, though she really likes slapping people. Why is there always a pipe conveniently lying around under Yoh when he's about to square up lmao. Damn, the Tao family is fucked up, really killed a man just for a present. Pyron had every right to be angry, but I guess it's better to quell that anger, his dream is more important. Tao Jun is hot though, at least she learned her lesson now.
Apr 16, 2021 5:04 AM
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Bad episode. Imagine Shaman King without any emotions - that's the address!
Apr 16, 2021 5:21 AM

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Yoh: No, don't kill her. You'd still be dead. Revenge is not the answer!
Lee: Damn, you're right. I don't feel like killing her anymore. Instead I'm going to tag along with the lady who had been using me as a puppet for years.
Apr 16, 2021 5:43 AM

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The pacing feels a bit too strong but I suppose it's better than if the episode felt like a drag. I liked the comedy this episode as well.
Apr 16, 2021 6:21 AM
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I think I like Anna. The fighting was pretty good too, ngl I was a bit bored and sleepy while watching this 3rd episode. One more thing, is the pacing in this version faster than the original? I didn't watch the original, maybe later.
Apr 16, 2021 8:57 AM
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The pacing is so rushed that i really can't get into this mess of an anime. They introduce characters and fight and have them change morals about their spirits in 1 episode.

After this episode i watched a bit of the old anime which handled it so much better. like i had no clue ep 2 crammed 2 seperate fights with Ren together for no reason. They complete throw away a great moment when Ryuunosuke brings Yoh to the hospital. This actually made me so sad cuz i love when delinquent characters are more than "urrrr fight".

it seems clear that this remake only cares about fights and doesn't care to exposition dump for no reason or complete ignore characters outside of said fights. Honestly how am i supposed to be watching 52 episodes of these anime fight compilations. Visual storytelling doesn't exist here.

Even with anna, when she walks in the door she completely dumps all her info and motivation onto You ((who already knew her???)) just for her to later use her powers anyway, which would be the perfect opportunity to just show us her ability... I really hoped it would be better than this

They also completely brush over that they got movie tickets in the mail and went anyway? not knowing how they got it??? its so dumb. When Jun is introduced (with a shot of her tits ofc) Yoh also immediately picks up a random pipe in the middle of the street?? besides this they ruin Ryuunosuke again making him an asshole who doesnt want to give up his sword. In the old anime Ryuu even helped Manta beat up some other bikers and even drove him back to Yoh. What are they even doing with Ryuu??

the world just forces fights to happen and doesnt care about anything else. nothing else matters except who theyre fighting and where theyre gonna fight.
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Apr 16, 2021 9:01 AM
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Mako995 said:
Piromysl said:
What is exactly Manta's purpose in this show?


Patience and you'll find out haha

This episode was good, enjoyed what it had to show. Pacing has seemed to sort itself out which I'm happy with.
He won't find out anything, Manta had a purpose in the original series, in the manga and remake he's pointless
Apr 16, 2021 9:12 AM
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Mako995 said:


Patience and you'll find out haha

This episode was good, enjoyed what it had to show. Pacing has seemed to sort itself out which I'm happy with.
He won't find out anything, Manta had a purpose in the original series, in the manga and remake he's pointless


I'd still say he had a purpose in the manga, maybe not as much as shown in the original series tho
Apr 16, 2021 9:25 AM

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The pacing isn't bothering me at all. In fact, it's still mostly like the manga and I prefer to the overly winded and meandering pace of the first anime, by far.

People are complaining that Yoh and Amidamaru don't feel like friends, but you don't need to see ALL of it in just a single episode; you can literally have it slowly expand through multiple ones. Manta literally beating up Ryu for Yoh is a great proof of that and it'll only keep going with each episode.

I really love the Tao's as just utterly reprehensive assholes who use ghosts and want what Yoh has, only to keep getting trounced by their lacking ideals, and having the change start with Jun and the lesson she learned here.

It all worked for me and I quite enjoyed it. The only issue I had was midway it was, at least writing-wise, getting a little too standard shonen, but at the end, then it became the Shaman King we all love, with its comedy and the like. They really should've highlighted more clearly that Anna is capable to bring back ghosts that have even passed on, which before was stated to be "impossible", just for clarification. But everything else worked, and it was all still implied.

It's still going to take awhile for it to full blossom, as this is following the manga, but it'll get there and I look forward to more.

And I was applauding when I saw the episode continue over the end credits. There's hope for this anime yet, they know at least to sacrifice the ending song for the story if they need to. What a relief. My favorite anime of all time does that a lot too (Shakugan no Shana 3), and it's a good way to squeeze in as much as you can, so I have a lot more faith that this series going to put the story first, and they've been doing a decent job so far.

I really enjoyed this one, which is funny, because I remembered the Lee Pyron episode being my all time least favorite episode of 2001. So much so I re-dropped the series before getting back to it again. But yeah, good episode and I'm quite optimistic about more.
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Apr 16, 2021 9:28 AM

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Let's just hope that they only speedrun through the introductions and slow down later on. If not, this will only end up being another God of Highschool situation, this time without the bombastic animation.
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Apr 16, 2021 9:41 AM

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el3mel said:
Should have showed how did Manta managed to borrow the sword as it felt really confusing. They had no reason to listen. Maybe the next episode will show or something.


Even Manta kicked his ass. That's how. Encyclopedia knock.

That's how it was in the manga too.
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Apr 16, 2021 9:58 AM
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CrimsonCW said:
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Should have showed how did Manta managed to borrow the sword as it felt really confusing. They had no reason to listen. Maybe the next episode will show or something.


Even Manta kicked his ass. That's how. Encyclopedia knock.

That's how it was in the manga too.


I neither read the manga nor did I watch the original. He was getting beaten to pulp then suddenly the scene cuts to him having the sword. How did the kid manage to get the sword from the gang ? Should have been shown really.
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el3mel said:
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Even Manta kicked his ass. That's how. Encyclopedia knock.

That's how it was in the manga too.


I neither read the manga nor did I watch the original. He was getting beaten to pulp then suddenly the scene cuts to him having the sword. How did the kid manage to get the sword from the gang ? Should have been shown really.


He didn't 'beat him to a pulp' so much as incapacitated him enough to swipe it and make off.

And, that gang are literally just the most worthless lackeys, who just wait for orders. I'm sure after Yoh beat them up in episode 1, they just wait for orders from Ryu, and then after Manta took even him out, they were either confused or just "Whatever" and let him. Or were genuinely terrified, who knows. I mean, you take out the biggest dog to make yourself top dog, after all.

The next episode will be about Ryu, so I'm sure there will be a line in there about why they let him.
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Apr 16, 2021 10:02 AM
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CrimsonCW said:
el3mel said:


I neither read the manga nor did I watch the original. He was getting beaten to pulp then suddenly the scene cuts to him having the sword. How did the kid manage to get the sword from the gang ? Should have been shown really.


He didn't 'beat him to a pulp' so much as incapacitated him enough to swipe it and make off.

And, that gang are literally just the most worthless lackeys, who just wait for orders. I'm sure after Yoh beat them up in episode 1, they just wait for orders from Ryu, and then after Manta took even him out, they were either confused or just "Whatever" and let him.

The next episode will be about Ryu, so I'm sure there will be a line in there about why they let him.


The scene and his injuries all implied that they were kicking his ass.

I don't know man. Anyway I hope the next episode will show it.
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el3mel said:
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He didn't 'beat him to a pulp' so much as incapacitated him enough to swipe it and make off.

And, that gang are literally just the most worthless lackeys, who just wait for orders. I'm sure after Yoh beat them up in episode 1, they just wait for orders from Ryu, and then after Manta took even him out, they were either confused or just "Whatever" and let him.

The next episode will be about Ryu, so I'm sure there will be a line in there about why they let him.


The scene and his injuries all implied that they were kicking his ass.

I don't know man. Anyway I hope the next episode will show it.


Manta escaped then, despite it. Look at him, he's good at it, and he did it in the first episode too.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time.

Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always.
Apr 16, 2021 1:09 PM
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firstly i'm new to shaman king so i don't to expect but liked the first two episode but this one was just boring in my opinion. it didn't make me feel anything for the pyron or that girl. also i thought it was strange how she had a change of heart so suddently when a minute ago she was treating pyron so harshly. idk this episode felt really rushed.
Apr 16, 2021 1:12 PM

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Not bad of an episode, and it was quite interesting. I forgot how mean Anna really is trying to train YoH to be the Shaman King.
Apr 16, 2021 2:44 PM
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Brotherhood wasn't good until episode 30
Apr 16, 2021 2:52 PM

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I'm really digging the characters' designs
https://imgur.com/a/N1vC3dd

As for the skipped chapters and pacing, I decided to just read those skipped chapters after each episode on a weekly basis. Probably the best way to enjoy both versions without going way ahead in arcs.
Apr 16, 2021 3:08 PM

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another epic episode with lots of action! we got introduced to more characters and we got to see more badass anna in action, this time manta wasn't as useless as always
Apr 16, 2021 3:17 PM
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Takuto_Shindou said:
Brotherhood wasn't good until episode 30
lol that is just not true
Apr 16, 2021 3:24 PM
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junek50 said:
Takuto_Shindou said:
Brotherhood wasn't good until episode 30
lol that is just not true
It was a massive speedrun horseshit until it diverged, they even skipped Manga chapters because 2003 had already adapted it.
Apr 16, 2021 3:30 PM
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How convenient for Yoh to find pipes in this episode and the previous episode whenever he needs them. Looks like Japan has a lot of pipes lying around in the streets. Also, they should have explained why Yoh specifically needs some other object other than pipe to fight this time as it was explained in the manga.
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Takuto_Shindou said:
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lol that is just not true
It was a massive speedrun horseshit until it diverged, they even skipped Manga chapters because 2003 had already adapted it.


Not at all. It was pretty fast, but still watchable and nowhere near the dash you make it out to be.

This just in, anime nerds like to over-exaggerate issues with series they have bias towards, the same way that so many fans are doing with this adaptation, even though it's a literal 90% adaptation of the manga.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time.

Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always.
Apr 16, 2021 8:37 PM
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I loved this one ngl. I'm getting used to the fast pace and the series is getting better and better for me. It seems like it's getting a "monster of the week" style feel to it which I don't mind at all.

Tao Jun and Anna's bridge artstyle design look so amazing.




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Takuto_Shindou said:
Brotherhood wasn't good until episode 30


Until episode 11. The pacing was good once the first "big thing" happens in the series. Also the second arc of the series was quite literally perfection.

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Anna is just so cool, I love that she never holds back and is the complete opposite of Yoh. I loved the "You will be the Shaman King even if you die. After all, I deserve nothing less".
What a girl.
Apr 16, 2021 10:03 PM

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Maaaaaaaaan, I totally forgot about Anna being such a damn creep. To put it mildly.

Idk why everyone's up in arms about the pacing though. It might not be true to the source manga, but then which anime is? Especially when they're trying to squeeze so much into so little. If anything, I'd say it has a nice flow without any lulls during the episode.
Apr 17, 2021 12:42 AM
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Damn Anna slaps XD

Apr 17, 2021 12:44 AM

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Anna is pretty aggressive. LOL But she definitely cares about Yoh even tho she's so harsh on him. A new character is here as well, Tao Jun, another Shaman who wants to take Amidamaru. But thanks to Manta and Anna, we managed to defeat Pyron and Tao Jun. Good to see, Pyron got back to his senses.
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CrimsonCW said:
Takuto_Shindou said:
It was a massive speedrun horseshit until it diverged, they even skipped Manga chapters because 2003 had already adapted it.


Not at all. It was pretty fast, but still watchable and nowhere near the dash you make it out to be.

This just in, anime nerds like to over-exaggerate issues with series they have bias towards, the same way that so many fans are doing with this adaptation, even though it's a literal 90% adaptation of the manga.
Do you want me to count how many pages were cut? I don't know if it's gonna be even 60% adaptation
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The pacing of this episode was horrible. I guess they are rushing through the early parts so they can adapt all of it in 52 episodes.
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The pacing of this episode was horrible. I guess they are rushing through the early parts so they can adapt all of it in 52 episodes.
yeah 8 chapters in one episode lol
Apr 17, 2021 4:26 AM
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Damn, they're going so fast!
However, in the original anime the beginning episodes felt in turn pretty sluggish, and I never enjoyed the beginning as much anyway, so I think I like that better. I hope they'll slow down a bit in the future though.
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junek50 said:
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Not at all. It was pretty fast, but still watchable and nowhere near the dash you make it out to be.

This just in, anime nerds like to over-exaggerate issues with series they have bias towards, the same way that so many fans are doing with this adaptation, even though it's a literal 90% adaptation of the manga.
Do you want me to count how many pages were cut? I don't know if it's gonna be even 60% adaptation


People like you focus solely on numbers vs actual soul or heart of an adaptation.

You can't appreciate a good adaptation that doesn't 100%, page by page, adapt the source material, vs cutting it down but retaining the same core or intent.

It doesn't matter how much was cut. Because the core and experience of the FMA manga was still included, making it a solid adaptation.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time.

Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always.
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CrimsonCW said:
junek50 said:
Do you want me to count how many pages were cut? I don't know if it's gonna be even 60% adaptation


People like you focus solely on numbers vs actual soul or heart of an adaptation.

You can't appreciate a good adaptation that doesn't 100%, page by page, adapt the source material, vs cutting it down but retaining the same core or intent.

It doesn't matter how much was cut. Because the core and experience of the FMA manga was still included, making it a solid adaptation.
I was talking about Shaman King
Apr 17, 2021 8:39 AM
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What's the rush?
Why are they adapting everything so fast?
they do not give time to anything, everything feels so convenient.
the animation does not stand out either, only in some scenes and the only good thing is still the character design...
Something is wrong with the Staff...
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junek50 said:
CrimsonCW said:


People like you focus solely on numbers vs actual soul or heart of an adaptation.

You can't appreciate a good adaptation that doesn't 100%, page by page, adapt the source material, vs cutting it down but retaining the same core or intent.

It doesn't matter how much was cut. Because the core and experience of the FMA manga was still included, making it a solid adaptation.
I was talking about Shaman King


I've been checking out the manga concurrently as well and I still firmly say 90%. I think you're comparing it to the first anime, to be honest.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time.

Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always.
Apr 17, 2021 10:54 AM

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I am not familiar with the previous shaman king anime or the manga but it doesn't seem bad to me, its quite enjoyable shounen and the pacing seemed completely fine to me.

Not sure why so many haters, is it not faithful to manga?
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Not sure why so many haters, is it not faithful to manga?


It's virtually identical to the original manga. The problem is so many people have the first anime adaptation so pounded into their heads, they're complaining that it's not as padded as that one. Which was extremely OVER padded with filler, before deviating from the source material entirely.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time.

Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always.
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