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Dec 27, 2021 8:34 PM

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Desolated said:
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Here's a little personal top 10 of the most pretentious fat dungs to answer your inquiry into the genre
1. Code Geass R2
2. Black Rock Shooter
3. Classroom of the Elite
4. Master of Martial Hearts (Fuck you for reminding me this exists, you know who you are)
5. Puella Magi Madoka Magica
6. Fate/stay night (You could fill a whole pretentious list with just Fate and Gen Urobuchi)
7. A Certain Magical Index
8. Kokoro Connect
9. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
10. Neon Genesis Evaoedipus
I'm boutta end this man's whole career:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211227164501/https://myanimelist.net/animelist/DYNASTIA
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227165210/https://myanimelist.net/mangalist/DYNASTIA
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227164246/https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=DYNASTIA&u2=Desolated

>Haven't even watched Classroom of the Elite, Madoka, any Fate entries, any Urobuchi entries, and Haruhi

You know what? Fuck you. You're trying so hard to portray me as "fake" when it's actually the other way around. It's not even on your on-hold or dropped list, so stop pretending that you know shit to chase clout here.

It's not even on your Anilist:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227171046/https://anilist.co/user/DYNASTIA/animelist

Also, in case this bozo deleted their own post:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227165624/https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1981516

LMAO
All of this smacks of desperation, resentment, hatred, and anger, it's quite beautiful when you think about it.
I'm proud of my new MAL stalker...

Can you prove I haven't seen these shows? I haven't rated them on these sites, yes, sorry not sorry for not remembering to give ratings to animes I've seen a couple of episodes of years ago fast enough to your liking...
And I've rated Fate/stay night...
Just so you know, I've screenshotted your little tantrums in case you try to get loose.


“You’ve never succeeded at anything and you never will, and do you know why? Because you are vulgar, irremediably vulgar, and not only are you vulgar, you are ordinary.” - Maurice Pialat’s We Won't Grow Old Together (1972)
Dec 27, 2021 9:52 PM

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DYNASTIA said:
Desolated said:
I'm boutta end this man's whole career:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211227164501/https://myanimelist.net/animelist/DYNASTIA
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227165210/https://myanimelist.net/mangalist/DYNASTIA
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227164246/https://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=DYNASTIA&u2=Desolated

>Haven't even watched Classroom of the Elite, Madoka, any Fate entries, any Urobuchi entries, and Haruhi

You know what? Fuck you. You're trying so hard to portray me as "fake" when it's actually the other way around. It's not even on your on-hold or dropped list, so stop pretending that you know shit to chase clout here.

It's not even on your Anilist:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227171046/https://anilist.co/user/DYNASTIA/animelist

Also, in case this bozo deleted their own post:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227165624/https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1981516

LMAO
All of this smacks of desperation, resentment, hatred, and anger, it's quite beautiful when you think about it.
I'm proud of my new MAL stalker...

Can you prove I haven't seen these shows? I haven't rated them on these sites, yes, sorry not sorry for not remembering to give ratings to animes I've seen a couple of episodes of years ago fast enough to your liking...
And I've rated Fate/stay night...
Just so you know, I've screenshotted your little tantrums in case you try to get loose.

>stalker

Says who??? I won't bother stalking anyone if they didn't stalk me first or talk shit about me behind my back.

"i foRgoT!!"

Yeah sure, forgetting about anime you hate so much you called them "pretentious fat dungs"? Yeah, let's pretend we all believe that, lol.
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Promare. I know it's a movie, but it's the first thing that comes to mind right now.
Dec 27, 2021 10:24 PM
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It's been mentioned enough, but I'm going to mention it again, Code Geass.



Dec 28, 2021 2:50 AM

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Desolated said:
DYNASTIA said:

LMAO
All of this smacks of desperation, resentment, hatred, and anger, it's quite beautiful when you think about it.
I'm proud of my new MAL stalker...

Can you prove I haven't seen these shows? I haven't rated them on these sites, yes, sorry not sorry for not remembering to give ratings to animes I've seen a couple of episodes of years ago fast enough to your liking...
And I've rated Fate/stay night...
Just so you know, I've screenshotted your little tantrums in case you try to get loose.

>stalker

Says who??? I won't bother stalking anyone if they didn't stalk me first or talk shit about me behind my back.

"i foRgoT!!"

Yeah sure, forgetting about anime you hate so much you called them "pretentious fat dungs"? Yeah, let's pretend we all believe that, lol.

Said the stalker ...
Wow, I'm really the stalker here for pointing out your hypocrisy in an old thread I participated in...
While you follow me here like a Stan.

Would it make you feel better if I rated all those shows now a 1 or 2? I don't want to raise your cholesterol level for the Holidays ...


“You’ve never succeeded at anything and you never will, and do you know why? Because you are vulgar, irremediably vulgar, and not only are you vulgar, you are ordinary.” - Maurice Pialat’s We Won't Grow Old Together (1972)
Dec 28, 2021 8:52 AM

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Desolated said:

>stalker

Says who??? I won't bother stalking anyone if they didn't stalk me first or talk shit about me behind my back.

"i foRgoT!!"

Yeah sure, forgetting about anime you hate so much you called them "pretentious fat dungs"? Yeah, let's pretend we all believe that, lol.

Said the stalker ...
Wow, I'm really the stalker here for pointing out your hypocrisy in an old thread I participated in...
While you follow me here like a Stan.

Would it make you feel better if I rated all those shows now a 1 or 2? I don't want to raise your cholesterol level for the Holidays ...
Imagine bothering to dig a screenshot of what someone type months ago and deny such act to be stalking...

I don't care about your ratings. All I want to point out is that you're spewing bullcrap, your opinion is unwarranted if you haven't even watched the anime. I'd say that you're more pretentious than all those shows you mention combined for that. Wait, isn't this a "no u" moment yet again? Oh please, you make it too easy.
Dec 28, 2021 10:02 AM
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Great Pretender…
It started out great, the writing was creative and clever.
But they set up the last arc to be this huge reveal that turned out to be so ridiculous and made absolutely no sense. Completely ruined the show.
Dec 28, 2021 2:11 PM
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Arjuna.
I really wanted to like it, since I love Princess Mononoke as well and how it treats its environmental themes. But Arjuna feels like you ordered Princess Mononoke on Wish lol

I have rarely seen something that is so much preaching down on its audience and it tries to be as emotionally manipulative as the poster and ads of PETA.
Maybe I'll finish it someday, the last three or four episodes I have left, but I hate that it's so extremely unsubtle and preachy.
Arjuna as a character doesn't feel like she's a person either. She's only an extreme case of a lifeless vessel for the anime's preachment.

Sorry I only found German youtube links, but you will get how preachy it is.




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Great Pretender tried too hard to be a witty parody. It failed.
And if you look at your reflection
Is it all you want it to be?
Dec 28, 2021 3:19 PM

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Desolated said:
DYNASTIA said:

Said the stalker ...
Wow, I'm really the stalker here for pointing out your hypocrisy in an old thread I participated in...
While you follow me here like a Stan.

Would it make you feel better if I rated all those shows now a 1 or 2? I don't want to raise your cholesterol level for the Holidays ...
Imagine bothering to dig a screenshot of what someone type months ago and deny such act to be stalking...

I don't care about your ratings. All I want to point out is that you're spewing bullcrap, your opinion is unwarranted if you haven't even watched the anime. I'd say that you're more pretentious than all those shows you mention combined for that. Wait, isn't this a "no u" moment yet again? Oh please, you make it too easy.

Yes, I've used a screenshot of one of your messages in a thread to point out and make fun of your zealous consumerism while calling yourself a communist, Mr. Stalker.
I love how you use that to justify YOUR stalking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_don%27t_make_a_right
Proof I haven't seen the shows I have named? You admit that you're basing yourself on nothing at all to level accusations...
Just like how I could call you a pedophile here, can you prove you're not a pedophile?


“You’ve never succeeded at anything and you never will, and do you know why? Because you are vulgar, irremediably vulgar, and not only are you vulgar, you are ordinary.” - Maurice Pialat’s We Won't Grow Old Together (1972)
Dec 28, 2021 6:03 PM

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DYNASTIA said:
Desolated said:
Imagine bothering to dig a screenshot of what someone type months ago and deny such act to be stalking...

I don't care about your ratings. All I want to point out is that you're spewing bullcrap, your opinion is unwarranted if you haven't even watched the anime. I'd say that you're more pretentious than all those shows you mention combined for that. Wait, isn't this a "no u" moment yet again? Oh please, you make it too easy.

Yes, I've used a screenshot of one of your messages in a thread to point out and make fun of your zealous consumerism while calling yourself a communist, Mr. Stalker.
I love how you use that to justify YOUR stalking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_don%27t_make_a_right
Proof I haven't seen the shows I have named? You admit that you're basing yourself on nothing at all to level accusations...
Just like how I could call you a pedophile here, can you prove you're not a pedophile?
So you admit that stalking is (and therefore you are) "wrong"? Heh, good. At least that makes you get off your high horse. Because I never try to speak from higher ground in the first place, unlike you.

I'm not basing it out of nothing. I'm basing it from both your MAL and AL list as per the day you wrote that comment.
Dec 28, 2021 6:35 PM

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Desolated said:
DYNASTIA said:

Yes, I've used a screenshot of one of your messages in a thread to point out and make fun of your zealous consumerism while calling yourself a communist, Mr. Stalker.
I love how you use that to justify YOUR stalking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_don%27t_make_a_right
Proof I haven't seen the shows I have named? You admit that you're basing yourself on nothing at all to level accusations...
Just like how I could call you a pedophile here, can you prove you're not a pedophile?
So you admit that stalking is (and therefore you are) "wrong"? Heh, good. At least that makes you get off your high horse. Because I never try to speak from higher ground in the first place, unlike you.

I'm not basing it out of nothing. I'm basing it from both your MAL and AL list as per the day you wrote that comment.

I didn't say that I'm wrong or that I stalked you, you're the one thinking that. I'm showing you that by your logic, you're no better than me.
Well, it's off-topic, Mr. alleged pedophile... There's nothing I can do.
You make an ad hominem ... I can't help it ... It's you who says shit, It's you who has no arguments. kid toucher...
You contradicted yourself when you passively acknowledged a rating doesn't mean you have seen something, and that you wouldn't believe me even after I offered to do it.
You can't prove a negative...


“You’ve never succeeded at anything and you never will, and do you know why? Because you are vulgar, irremediably vulgar, and not only are you vulgar, you are ordinary.” - Maurice Pialat’s We Won't Grow Old Together (1972)
Dec 29, 2021 1:45 AM

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DYNASTIA said:
Desolated said:
So you admit that stalking is (and therefore you are) "wrong"? Heh, good. At least that makes you get off your high horse. Because I never try to speak from higher ground in the first place, unlike you.

I'm not basing it out of nothing. I'm basing it from both your MAL and AL list as per the day you wrote that comment.

I didn't say that I'm wrong or that I stalked you, you're the one thinking that. I'm showing you that by your logic, you're no better than me.
Well, it's off-topic, Mr. alleged pedophile... There's nothing I can do.
You make an ad hominem ... I can't help it ... It's you who says shit, It's you who has no arguments. kid toucher...
You contradicted yourself when you passively acknowledged a rating doesn't mean you have seen something, and that you wouldn't believe me even after I offered to do it.
You can't prove a negative...
But there is a proof that you do stalked me first, as I have shown above.

You, on the other hand, accused someone of being a pedophile out of thin air. No proof whatsoever.

No arguments? Stop projecting yourself on me.

I don't care about your ratings. A simple "completed", "watching", or even "on-hold" or "dropped" without any rating whastoever is enough for me to know whether you habe watched the said shows or not.

Also you offered me to do it days after you made such statement about those anime. At the time of you calling them "pretentious fat dungs", there are no indications that you have seen those anime you detest so much. Now it's pointless, because you can of course by now, binged all those anime and then put them on your list and said that you've already seen them now. But it's not what I care about. What I care about is your indications of haven't watched those anime yet days ago by the time you made such statement, and pretend as if you have watched them.
Dec 29, 2021 3:05 PM
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easily death note lol! light does not come off as a cold calculating genius to me more like a a larping incel rofl. everything felt so surface level and frankly just plain boring.
Dec 29, 2021 7:49 PM
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MALstinks said:
code geass r2 not counting r1 because r1 is great but code geass r2 is awful
Majority opinion . Why the hell do you always place your opinions in line with majority opinion . R2 is not R1 its the conclusion it cannot have the same highs as R1. But R2 is better to watch and is just one of the greatest conclusion ever . +Rolo's Shirley's And Orange boy's arc are very well done . They are some of the best character arcs in anime ever.
Dec 30, 2021 3:20 AM

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Kanata no Astra. On the surface, it looks like a really clever and visually appealing character-driven space adventure story with some meaningful philosophical stuff. And if you watch it with your brain turned off, it's actually pretty entertaining; it even might feel inspiring. But there are so many plot holes and contrivances (like
) that it deprives the characters of any meaningful agency and renders the philosophical content laughable. When the writing's so bad that the plot is in the driver's seat, no amount of great visuals can save it. Pay no attention to the hand-waving wizard behind the curtain....

Still, it's one of those "so bad it's good" shows that's fun to watch and pick apart.

lelouch4britanni said:
Hunter x hunter especially the chimera ant arc

HxH is actually pretty good, but yes, the Chimera Ant arc is garbage. I've watched it three times now and with friends to help look more closely at it, and that arc has holes aplenty. Too much fridge logic.

Pixel_Vapour said:
The thing is is that Code Geass takes itself seriously without an ounce of self-awareness. To use a different anime, Gurren Lagann is one of my favourites because it's over the top and insane but it never tries to be serious (from my perspective).

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is actually pretty amazing when you look at it through the lens of yin/yang symbolism and consider things like the spiral motif, on top of which it's a character-driven series with great characterization and clever writing. And yes, it's over the top and a lot of silly fun... but it has a ton of depth below the surface.

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The Beheading Cycle.

It's a detective/mystery type show. At first it's pretty well done, but then it starts trying to add philosophy and a twist ending and some really weird crap at the end. The twist is stupid and makes 0 sense.

Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai is a challenging one because of how much is packed into it; each character seems to represent a different sociopolitical philosophy (which is echoed by their character designs), so seen from that perspective, it's pretty fascinating. But it's also more of a meta-story about storytelling and epistemology (which the very first scene and the narration reinforce, all of which fit with the at first seemingly jarring ending). It's not the kind of show that's meant to be taken too literally, which makes it harder to watch when you're just looking for a good surface-level murder mystery story. It's another one I've watched multiple times with friends who are good at literary and filmic analysis, and although dense and sometimes confusing in places, it's another one with appropriate and thought-provoking depth; I'd argue against its inclusion here. (But some people will still find it cringy, so - to each their own!)

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Bunny girl senpai
It would be much better if they didn't explain anything instead of that dumb science
Overall I don't hate it but hate that science aspect of show
Bunny girl senpai is decent, 6-7/10
Dec 30, 2021 12:41 PM

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charlotte and re:zero fits the discription

Well, I mean, you wouldn't mind naming some re:zero plot holes, would you?

Nah i won’t bother, afterall this post didn’t say anything about justifying our pick
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I don't remember if i was here but Dr.Stone explanations are useless with plot conveniences and bad written characters everywhere.
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All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath.
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N2OBLUe said:
Nah i won’t bother, afterall this post didn’t say anything about justifying our pick

Well, that's your call - I for one am curious to understand your reasoning (particularly since I haven't watched the anime yet), but your refusal to respond seems to indicate discomfort or that you feel like you are being (or will be) attacked, rather than a blind adherence to the OP's topic. So either way - no worries.

g-

(Edit: Of course, from what we've seen in this thread and on MAL as a matter of course, I'd be surprised if you didn't get attacked by someone, honestly. But I don't think that's what the person asking for your reasoning was after; seemed to me like genuine willingness to engage in discussion. g-)
Please don't feed the trolls.

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N2OBLUe said:
RareWRLD said:

Well, I mean, you wouldn't mind naming some re:zero plot holes, would you?

Nah i won’t bother, afterall this post didn’t say anything about justifying our pick
Well yeah you don't owe to justify anything to anybody, but I just had a rational thought that if rezero fits the description "full of plot holes" for you then you are obviously able to state those :D
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While I am on the Code Geass bandwagon, I say The Future Diary. SPOILER!


Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details.
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We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons. And for one brief moment, you did. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. *That* is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence.
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Desolated said:
DYNASTIA said:

I didn't say that I'm wrong or that I stalked you, you're the one thinking that. I'm showing you that by your logic, you're no better than me.
Well, it's off-topic, Mr. alleged pedophile... There's nothing I can do.
You make an ad hominem ... I can't help it ... It's you who says shit, It's you who has no arguments. kid toucher...
You contradicted yourself when you passively acknowledged a rating doesn't mean you have seen something, and that you wouldn't believe me even after I offered to do it.
You can't prove a negative...
But there is a proof that you do stalked me first, as I have shown above.

You, on the other hand, accused someone of being a pedophile out of thin air. No proof whatsoever.

No arguments? Stop projecting yourself on me.

I don't care about your ratings. A simple "completed", "watching", or even "on-hold" or "dropped" without any rating whastoever is enough for me to know whether you habe watched the said shows or not.

Also you offered me to do it days after you made such statement about those anime. At the time of you calling them "pretentious fat dungs", there are no indications that you have seen those anime you detest so much. Now it's pointless, because you can of course by now, binged all those anime and then put them on your list and said that you've already seen them now. But it's not what I care about. What I care about is your indications of haven't watched those anime yet days ago by the time you made such statement, and pretend as if you have watched them.

I said that I've seen them years ago, didn't like them after a few episodes (or in the case of Haruhi, read), and didn't bother rating them since I have better things to do with my time than give arbitrary ratings to things I haven't watched since HS.
But whatever you say, Mr. (alleged) Pedo ...
Realize that your reasoning leans in all cases on the (false) presupposition that I haven't watched them ...
You never once questioned it, you're zealous in your beliefs.
It's like talking to a religious nut, if God manifests himself, he exists, if he does not manifest himself, he still exists ...
I don't care about what you consider to be authentic anime cred, you outright proved you're too dumb to even look at a list correctly when you said I didn't rate any Fate adaptation...


“You’ve never succeeded at anything and you never will, and do you know why? Because you are vulgar, irremediably vulgar, and not only are you vulgar, you are ordinary.” - Maurice Pialat’s We Won't Grow Old Together (1972)
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antigraviton said:
N2OBLUe said:
Nah i won’t bother, afterall this post didn’t say anything about justifying our pick

Well, that's your call - I for one am curious to understand your reasoning (particularly since I haven't watched the anime yet), but your refusal to respond seems to indicate discomfort or that you feel like you are being (or will be) attacked, rather than a blind adherence to the OP's topic. So either way - no worries.

g-

(Edit: Of course, from what we've seen in this thread and on MAL as a matter of course, I'd be surprised if you didn't get attacked by someone, honestly. But I don't think that's what the person asking for your reasoning was after; seemed to me like genuine willingness to engage in discussion. g-)


Honestly it really isn't that complicated, i just don't wanna write paragraphs to justify why i feel a way about something so it not about feeling uncomfortable or afraid i'll get attacked and i could care less about that but i can see that people here like to engage in debates and stuff which is cool i would do too when i'm in the mood but i guess when i came to this thread i just want edto answer op and go my way. I appreciate the concern tho thanks :)
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Code Geass in rewatch. It looks smart and a perfect ride for the twists and ambitions without thinking much and letting the twists carry the series. But when I rewatched it with actually focusing on the story and details a lot more, man was it an absolute mess to watch and it only got worse and worse and worse in R2 for the most part.

Bunny Girl Senpai had a good first arc and some nice emotional moments but the science involved in this series feel more like supernatural curses than anything. If its curses, maybe its a solid series, but the logic behind Futaba's exposition and scientific breakdowns on what theoretically happened were really, really contrived and rough to get through. Not terrible of a series though since there were enough elements I still enjoyed in spite of the stupidity there.

Tokyo Revengers is another one too, its just a pretty dumb series overall in the end while trying to be smart and ambitious as a time travel story with gangs.
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Someone said Tokyo Revengers trying to be smart. 🤭
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Well I'll write down the pretentious trash with pseudo-intellect. Most of what is written below is psychological, political and historical anime considering they are closely related to science

Death Note
Steins Gate
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Ping Pong the Animation
Code Geass
Mushishi
Kaguya-sama Love is War
Texhnolyze
Gintama
Kingdom
The Promised Neverland
The Tatamy Galaxy
Vinland Saga
Samurai X
Re:zero
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Demon Slayer
Attack on Titan
Tensura
Shinsekai yori
Erased
FLCL
Tokyo Ghoul
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obviously berserk and fullmetal alchemist

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I found WataMote quite ironic and sincere satire on hikkimori and how these people try to adapt to reality through the tropes seen in the media. But at some point it became the usual parodic CGDCT, which is especially ironic in the context of the fact that previously Tomoko abundantly mocking cliches of anime and this genre in particular.


You missed the point. Thats all the show EVER was Re Zero fan. Always overthinking things lmao.
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DGemu said:
RobertBobert said:
I found WataMote quite ironic and sincere satire on hikkimori and how these people try to adapt to reality through the tropes seen in the media. But at some point it became the usual parodic CGDCT, which is especially ironic in the context of the fact that previously Tomoko abundantly mocking cliches of anime and this genre in particular.


You missed the point. Thats all the show EVER was Re Zero fan. Always overthinking things lmao.


I find it quite ironic that you are accusing someone of misunderstanding in a message that is difficult to understand.
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