Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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May 22, 2016 6:24 PM
#251
Emilia being the real villain sounds like an even more sadistic way to break Subaru. Also it sounds like it would end the story real quick because Subaru would lose his motivation...maybe? |
May 22, 2016 6:27 PM
#252
hailanth said: Emilia being the real villain sounds like an even more sadistic way to break Subaru. Also it sounds like it would end the story real quick because Subaru would lose his motivation...maybe? It probably wouldn't break him. Make him try hard af to find out why she's doing all this + try to redeem her. Tbh it sounds like the best way to torture him and yet not break him if I were the villain. |
May 22, 2016 6:28 PM
#253
OneTrueEmiya said: I was actually thinking about this: Beatrice seems to be aware of multiple Subaru timelines, but she hasn't acted differently even after last episode. Plot hole or something to be explained afterwards...? Rather than her being aware of multiple timelines, I wager she is merely aware there is more to Subaru than she can literally comprehend. He's always talking about past occurrences in front of her, and she has likely accepted that there's more to it than the delusions of a crazy man, which is why she helps him when she really has no reason to do such, since she realizes this is probably for the best. |
May 22, 2016 6:28 PM
#254
Oh man this episode that lap pillow better be savepoint ma heart couldn't handle a reset if it happened right after that,but i dunno this village visit seems like the major turning part now just need to find the witch. |
May 22, 2016 6:30 PM
#255
katsu044 said: Oh man this episode that lap pillow better be savepoint ma heart couldn't handle a reset if it happened right after that,but i dunno this village visit seems like the major turning part now just need to find the witch. I just hope he doesn't die any more for this loop D: |
May 22, 2016 6:30 PM
#256
sirflimflam said: OneTrueEmiya said: I was actually thinking about this: Beatrice seems to be aware of multiple Subaru timelines, but she hasn't acted differently even after last episode. Plot hole or something to be explained afterwards...? Rather than her being aware of multiple timelines, I wager she is merely aware there is more to Subaru than she can literally comprehend. He's always talking about past occurrences in front of her, and she has likely accepted that there's more to it than the delusions of a crazy man, which is why she helps him when she really has no reason to do such, since she realizes this is probably for the best. True, true. Once again, best loli proves her worth~ |
May 22, 2016 6:30 PM
#257
hailanth said: %100 agreed...This whole story is getting its "excitement" value from Subaru's psychological health...Because "he doesnt die even if you kill him"...Emilia being the real villain sounds like an even more sadistic way to break Subaru. Also it sounds like it would end the story real quick because Subaru would lose his motivation...maybe? So if Emilia turns out to be the "villain" he will lose his biggest motivation and lose his last safe heaven alongside with his sanity...Which is the only way Subaru can get a "real bad end" |
May 22, 2016 6:33 PM
#258
hailanth said: OneTrueEmiya said: I was actually thinking about this: Beatrice seems to be aware of multiple Subaru timelines, but she hasn't acted differently even after last episode. Plot hole or something to be explained afterwards...? No, she isn't aware (in the previous episodes she only recalls their first meeting when she mana drained him). Well.........let`s talk about a thing called "plot" and the other part "twist". |
May 22, 2016 6:34 PM
#259
Z-Dante said: That's tame compared most anime such as the one in your avi.TeamDalaiLana said: You sure fam? There are barely any fan service in this anime. And that's one of the reason I like it so much. No obvious boobs or crotch shots. ..... |
Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
May 22, 2016 6:36 PM
#260
edwd2 said: did he just go full retard for half the episode. listening to it was unbearable, i feel bad for the cv. But that's beauty of it tho. He was acting hyper to conceal the suffering pain inside. I mean I can totally relate to that. Once again, very realistic depiction of human nature. |
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May 22, 2016 6:37 PM
#261
I guess my problem with this show is I find the main character to be obnoxious and annoying. I get that he's going through hardships and suffering alone but his core personality just puts me off. The show just centers on him too much. The supporting cast isn't given a chance to really carry any of the load. The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He's a large ham. Large hams work to me as supporting characters but as the main character their antics wear on me very fast. It would be like Full Metal Alchemist with Major Armstrong as the main character. |
May 22, 2016 6:37 PM
#262
OneTrueEmiya said: Epicenter said: I have a response to multiple statements, but since the mod said to stop the discussion about lolis I will. I disagree about the claim of baiting, or even off topic, but w.e. My opinion is unchanged. Moving on, I'm interested in what will occur in the village. You could always, y'know, open a new thread about this. Just saying. Same here, but I'm still holding on to the theory that the village is a red herring and the real villain here is Emilia. Meh, it's not that important, besides opening an entire thread after everyone got all emotional seems much more baiting to me than anything I said. I didn't even say all people who like lolis are pedos like I was accused of, nor is being a pedo necessarily even evil or anything since it's merely a sexual preference but w.e.... I guess the real villain could be Emilia, but I'm sort of confused about what her reasoning would be to go through all of this, plus it seems too plain to say the hair colour and elf stuff makes her the witch. Too easy. I mean clearly whoever is behind Subaru's powers is the villain imo, and if so I don't quite see what Subaru has done in this anime helping Emelia that couldn't have been done by Emelia without Subaru if she had such powers. |
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May 22, 2016 6:39 PM
#263
LoneWizard said: hailanth said: %100 agreed...This whole story is getting its "excitement" value from Subaru's psychological health...Because "he doesnt die even if you kill him"...Emilia being the real villain sounds like an even more sadistic way to break Subaru. Also it sounds like it would end the story real quick because Subaru would lose his motivation...maybe? So if Emilia turns out to be the "villain" he will lose his biggest motivation and lose his last safe heaven alongside with his sanity...Which is the only way Subaru can get a "real bad end" i didnt read the LN, but any LN reader can answer me? is there a volume already dedicated with Emilia as main focus? if not, i think she'll be the last female to save or conquer before moving focus on Satella who might be indeed Emilia or another personality of her. Also that black hand gripping subaru, which turn/fading to white or human hands based on ending, might be a sign that the witch actually the one need to be saved. |
May 22, 2016 6:45 PM
#264
Emilia is gonna be like the finally boss, but like have 2 different one like, the witch herself and the navie emilia. after this arc, MC shouldn't be dying as often instead the entire story will be like a knight quest-ish kinda anime |
May 22, 2016 6:46 PM
#265
should be easy to guess now who's the culprit. still why was Rem attacking him in loop 2 and 3 if the culprit is among the village? Rem's mystery is far from answered. |
>I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
May 22, 2016 6:46 PM
#266
stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. |
May 22, 2016 6:49 PM
#267
LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. I think his main issue is that Subaru tries to act genre-savvy. I admittedly dislike those segments too, even if it's just a part of his act. |
May 22, 2016 6:49 PM
#268
Barusu letting it all out on Emilia's lap was much needed and sad to see. The emotional impact behind reliving life so many times only to be betrayed or see your most loved ones die, or die yoursef because no one trusts you, is very harsh. Gives me Stein;Gate vibes with how Okabe had to experience the negative effects of time travel. On the brighter side Barusu is pretty damn lucky getting to go on a lil shopping date with the cutest maids of all time Ram and Rem. |
May 22, 2016 6:51 PM
#269
LoneWizard said: Exactly and maybe I'm in the minority, but I hate Konosuba. I cringed through the up skirts, boobs, crotch shots each episode. stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. It's funny because I really enjoy Food Wars which was full of fan service. I didn't like Konosuba at all. |
Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
May 22, 2016 6:52 PM
#270
LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. Gandalf pls That GIF destorys me every post. But indeed this is the rollercoaster of despair. A NEET expecting to be the hero only to realise shit is about to go down and he is a "pówerless" human......basically he is fucked. |
May 22, 2016 6:52 PM
#271
kidlat020 said: should be easy to guess now who's the culprit. still why was Rem attacking him in loop 2 and 3 if the culprit is among the village? Rem's mystery is far from answered. Because the reason why she's killing him has nothing to do with the curse from the village. She's killing him because he has that witch smell on him and the witches are her enemy, so she assumes he's connected to them. |
May 22, 2016 6:54 PM
#272
Incredible how MAL always manages to contort a thread. Moving on... |
May 22, 2016 6:57 PM
#273
OneTrueEmiya said: It didnt bother me that much so i cant comment on that...Except some cringy scenes in the first arc...Second arc he was much more tame and his jokes were more fitting to the context...I think his main issue is that Subaru tries to act genre-savvy. I admittedly dislike those segments too, even if it's just a part of his act. |
May 22, 2016 7:00 PM
#274
LoneWizard said: OneTrueEmiya said: It didnt bother me that much so i cant comment on that...Except some cringy scenes in the first arc...Second arc he was much more tame and his jokes were more fitting to the context...I think his main issue is that Subaru tries to act genre-savvy. I admittedly dislike those segments too, even if it's just a part of his act. True, it got better as he developed into a more well-rounded character. But at first it really was quite off-putting, especially because it seemed to be shoe-horned in just to make him different from the likes of Kirito and co. QWERTYFish25 said: Incredible how MAL always manages to contort a thread. Moving on... Have you visited our humble UBW subforums just across the road? If not, please do take a few hours to look around. We take pride in being able to derail threads far beyond human comprehension. |
May 22, 2016 7:03 PM
#275
After this episode, I lost some faith in this show. Subaru is literally getting dumber and dumber by each episode and his fake act this episode was annoying to say the least. We all know what he intends to do, but his actions, especially this episode, was idiotic. Obviously, he wants to earn the trust of the sisters as well as save everyone from the shaman, but how does acting like a complete psycho accomplish that exactly? If anything, I would assume the sisters would be more suspicious about Subaru especially when he revealed how he knew the location of the vase. Also, how is Subaru asking twin drills about curses and Puck about shadow magic not setting off any red flags in their heads. Sure, Subaru has memories of them, but he is basically a stranger to twin drills and she basically told him everything she knows without a second thought not to mention the fact that he has free access to the library. I really hope Subaru returns to what he was in the first few episodes instead of staying as a airhead who has a crush on a princess.. |
May 22, 2016 7:05 PM
#276
LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He tried to be funny and charming in his interactions with all those girls but he comes across as annoying. I don't know how they can stand to be around him. I can barely stand to watch him at times as he's hamming it up. I mainly watch this show because of the mystery his interactions with those women are painful to watch. This guy is declaring his love for people he hasn't even known a full week. He's known Emilia a single day longer than he's known Rem and Ram. I get that he's had some cycles in there but declaring his love for any of them out loud should be enough for them to think he's insane. Actually thinking he loves people he knows very little about just because he's had some interactions with them tells me he is insane. Is that supposed to be a NEET thing? He was starved from human interaction so long he instantly falls in love with people? |
May 22, 2016 7:07 PM
#277
TeamDalaiLana said: I didn't really care for the fan service in Konasuba either but I found the show to he hilarious. Granted by the end of it's run it's gimmick had grown stale but it had it's moments early on.LoneWizard said: Exactly and maybe I'm in the minority, but I hate Konosuba. I cringed through the up skirts, boobs, crotch shots each episode. stone616 said: The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. It's funny because I really enjoy Food Wars which was full of fan service. I didn't like Konosuba at all. |
May 22, 2016 7:09 PM
#278
TeamDalaiLana said: LoneWizard said: Exactly and maybe I'm in the minority, but I hate Konosuba. I cringed through the up skirts, boobs, crotch shots each episode. stone616 said: The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. It's funny because I really enjoy Food Wars which was full of fan service. I didn't like Konosuba at all. Shokugeki has far more fanservice than Kono Suba. That means you probably hate Kazuma then. Some people can't stand him because he's the very definition of an entitled scumbag~ |
May 22, 2016 7:10 PM
#279
GamePois0n said: Emilia is gonna be like the finally boss, but like have 2 different one like, the witch herself and the navie emilia. after this arc, MC shouldn't be dying as often instead the entire story will be like a knight quest-ish kinda anime thanks... yeah i heard next arc will be the arc people fall for Rem though... |
May 22, 2016 7:11 PM
#280
Yangbo said: After this episode, I lost some faith in this show. Subaru is literally getting dumber and dumber by each episode and his fake act this episode was annoying to say the least. We all know what he intends to do, but his actions, especially this episode, was idiotic. Obviously, he wants to earn the trust of the sisters as well as save everyone from the shaman, but how does acting like a complete psycho accomplish that exactly? If anything, I would assume the sisters would be more suspicious about Subaru especially when he revealed how he knew the location of the vase. Also, how is Subaru asking twin drills about curses and Puck about shadow magic not setting off any red flags in their heads. Sure, Subaru has memories of them, but he is basically a stranger to twin drills and she basically told him everything she knows without a second thought not to mention the fact that he has free access to the library. I really hope Subaru returns to what he was in the first few episodes instead of staying as a airhead who has a crush on a princess.. I think his mistakes were based on a mental breakdown, rather than his intelligence. Basically he freaked out. It's not like he acted like a psycho because he thought it was smart. He only asked about shadow magic after Puck told him that's the element he had affinity with, I believe it would be sensible to ask about it under such a circumstance. Why would asking about curses set off more red flags if he already smells like the witch? I mean if he really is working with the witch you'd assume he'd know about curses already. |
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May 22, 2016 7:12 PM
#281
stone616 said: Yes,he tried to be funny...But he was not...He is not supposed to be good at human relations and those kind of stuff in th e first place...But it didnt stop him,it never stopped me either =_=LoneWizard said: stone616 said: The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He tried to be funny and charming in his interactions with all those girls but he comes across as annoying. I don't know how they can stand to be around him. I can barely stand to watch him at times as he's hamming it up. Is that supposed to be a NEET thing? He was starved from human interaction so long he instantly falls in love with people? And he is allowed to interact all those big people only because he helped Emilia big time so they BEAR with him for most part... I wont talk further about how he can or can not love people he known for a month since as i learned from last episode's thread you cant explain feelings to people who didnt felt those feelings under somewhat similar circumstances no matter how good you depict them... |
May 22, 2016 7:18 PM
#282
OneTrueEmiya said: I was actually thinking about this: Beatrice seems to be aware of multiple Subaru timelines, but she hasn't acted differently even after last episode. Plot hole or something to be explained afterwards...? I actually thought the same but (i was going to write what you just said xD), yes yes and yes! That's what i'm thinking, she simply doesn't show that to him. I doubt it's a plothole, it's a 25 eps anime, i doubt they would commit such a big fail. It will be explained afterwards (i think). That's why she started liking him after the first 2 or 3 times that he died, i was very admired when she accepted to protect him until the end. |
May 22, 2016 7:25 PM
#283
LoneWizard said: He hasn't known any of those people a month. He met Emilia a day before he meet everyone else and he's now in a 4 day cycle so 5 days max for all of them.stone616 said: Yes,he tried to be funny...But he was not...He is not supposed to be good at human relations and those kind of stuff in th e first place...But it didnt stop him,it never stopped me either =_=LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He tried to be funny and charming in his interactions with all those girls but he comes across as annoying. I don't know how they can stand to be around him. I can barely stand to watch him at times as he's hamming it up. Is that supposed to be a NEET thing? He was starved from human interaction so long he instantly falls in love with people? And he is allowed to interact all those big people only because he helped Emilia big time so they BEAR with him for most part... I wont talk further about how he can or can not love people he known for a month since as i learned from last episode's thread you cant explain feelings to people who didnt felt those feelings under somewhat similar circumstances no matter how good you depict them... Like I said he has some time loops in there but he really doesn't know any of those people which is why he found it surprising that one of them he thought he knew would kill him. He has a very limited amount of interaction with any of them. Any normal sane person after having that time loop where one of them killed him would bail on that mansion immediately. I'm hoping this show gets off the current cycle and actually gets into the real plot soon. Maybe we can get some of the cast members that aren't in this arc like the swordsman back in the picture too. |
May 22, 2016 7:27 PM
#284
He return again to save point. It all starts from the beginning again and mana moves taught by Puck and information from Betty would be another clue. There must be a plan behind the Subaru desire to go to the village and Ram who wanted to come along. |
May 22, 2016 7:28 PM
#285
WOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. At least they did the wake up scene well. "No sir I think your birth was a mistake." Coldest line EVER Haha. All the anime additions were pretty nice as well. This is shaping up good, still had to give it a 4 due to the fact that I was expecting more from it. Also glad to see Emelia get more screen time this episode <3 |
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May 22, 2016 7:33 PM
#286
Holy crap this is one of my favorite series (so far) and I find myself giddy every Sunday while I wait for the episode. I like how we see a side of Subaru we never have before, as all the pressure finally gets to him, and although none of the other characters know why he's so scatter-brained, I think this is best shown when Emilia has Subaru on her lap, and she's just blindly agreeing with Subaru and his cries of pain to comfort him. No cliffhanger, but I think I'm still in suspense just to see what's going to happen next. As this series has taught us, happy moments are few and far between, so something is almost destined to go wrong next episode. |
May 22, 2016 7:39 PM
#287
QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: Wait what?They used exact same lines with the manga except with better art,better angles,animation and voices...How come manga was better o_OWOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. Manga is not what they are adapting the anime from anyway so double wtf o_O |
May 22, 2016 7:39 PM
#288
stone616 said: LoneWizard said: He hasn't known any of those people a month. He met Emilia a day before he meet everyone else and he's now in a 4 day cycle so 5 days max for all of them.stone616 said: LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He tried to be funny and charming in his interactions with all those girls but he comes across as annoying. I don't know how they can stand to be around him. I can barely stand to watch him at times as he's hamming it up. Is that supposed to be a NEET thing? He was starved from human interaction so long he instantly falls in love with people? And he is allowed to interact all those big people only because he helped Emilia big time so they BEAR with him for most part... I wont talk further about how he can or can not love people he known for a month since as i learned from last episode's thread you cant explain feelings to people who didnt felt those feelings under somewhat similar circumstances no matter how good you depict them... Like I said he has some time loops in there but he really doesn't know any of those people which is why he found it surprising that one of them he thought he knew would kill him. He has a very limited amount of interaction with any of them. Any normal sane person after having that time loop where one of them killed him would bail on that mansion immediately. I'm hoping this show gets off the current cycle and actually gets into the real plot soon. Maybe we can get some of the cast members that aren't in this arc like the swordsman back in the picture too. This part was day two so the maids have known him for 2 days and Emilia for three but HE has known the maids for 22 days and Emilia for 26 days. So he acts more friendly with them than the usual stranger would They did a bad job at portraying it but Subaru is literally broken at this point. He has died four times in the mansion so he is suffering from PTSD right now. He is trying to work hard and impress everyone and the blatant jokes are a sad attempt to win everyone's trust. As for hitting on everyone that's not true, it is evident that he Only likes Emilia and is just trying to win the friendship and trust of Rem and Ram |
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May 22, 2016 7:44 PM
#290
Mystearia said: LoneWizard said: hailanth said: Emilia being the real villain sounds like an even more sadistic way to break Subaru. Also it sounds like it would end the story real quick because Subaru would lose his motivation...maybe? So if Emilia turns out to be the "villain" he will lose his biggest motivation and lose his last safe heaven alongside with his sanity...Which is the only way Subaru can get a "real bad end" i didnt read the LN, but any LN reader can answer me? is there a volume already dedicated with Emilia as main focus? if not, i think she'll be the last female to save or conquer before moving focus on Satella who might be indeed Emilia or another personality of her. Also that black hand gripping subaru, which turn/fading to white or human hands based on ending, might be a sign that the witch actually the one need to be saved. Emilia's backstory will get focus but won't be this season stone616 said: LoneWizard said: He hasn't known any of those people a month. He met Emilia a day before he meet everyone else and he's now in a 4 day cycle so 5 days max for all of them.stone616 said: LoneWizard said: stone616 said: Subaru is NOT funny...He is NOT supposed to be funny...This is not Konosuba....KonoSuba was a comedy,this is show about how a guy breaks into million pieces and tries his best to fix those pieces just to be broken again...He is not a funny guy,he is just a young pampered NEET with problems who tries to act gung-ho to keep his sanity and hide his true feelings ...The genre savvy style of character that he is was done so much better on Konasuba. Subaru just isn't funny or charming to me. He tried to be funny and charming in his interactions with all those girls but he comes across as annoying. I don't know how they can stand to be around him. I can barely stand to watch him at times as he's hamming it up. Is that supposed to be a NEET thing? He was starved from human interaction so long he instantly falls in love with people? And he is allowed to interact all those big people only because he helped Emilia big time so they BEAR with him for most part... I wont talk further about how he can or can not love people he known for a month since as i learned from last episode's thread you cant explain feelings to people who didnt felt those feelings under somewhat similar circumstances no matter how good you depict them... Like I said he has some time loops in there but he really doesn't know any of those people which is why he found it surprising that one of them he thought he knew would kill him. He has a very limited amount of interaction with any of them. Any normal sane person after having that time loop where one of them killed him would bail on that mansion immediately. I'm hoping this show gets off the current cycle and actually gets into the real plot soon. Maybe we can get some of the cast members that aren't in this arc like the swordsman back in the picture too. The whole point of loops was for him to get to know twins and build bonds with them which he assuredly did. He basically spent entire month with them where they brought stability to his life when he had nothing and taught him various things on live in their world. This wasn't something they had to do and so of course he's grateful and considered them important people. if NEET (which he isn't) has anything to do with that pretty pathetic and twisted way of thinking. And no he never hits on any of maids, that crap icame out of your ass. And frankly if you don't care about the characters, and disregard their interactions then drop it. All those thing consider pointless or bad are core of the series. |
Iron_MawMay 22, 2016 7:51 PM
May 22, 2016 7:50 PM
#291
Beautiful episode! My heart breaks for Subaru. Can't wait for more! |
May 22, 2016 7:52 PM
#292
QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: The Lap scene would have worked better with a darker setting and stronger music. Instead it got lighter, I guess it's a cool contrast like a bitter sweet thing between him crying and the consolation from Emilia. WOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. At least they did the wake up scene well. "No sir I think your birth was a mistake." Coldest line EVER Haha. All the anime additions were pretty nice as well. This is shaping up good, still had to give it a 4 due to the fact that I was expecting more from it. Also glad to see Emelia get more screen time this episode <3 I was expecting it to go full emo/suicidal like last week but i mean it was nice. |
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May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
#293
LoneWizard said: QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: Wait what?They used exact same lines with the manga except with better art,better angles,animation and voices...How come manga was better o_OWOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. Manga is not what they are adapting the anime from anyway so double wtf o_O Yeah, as someone who was worried about that scene I thought WF pulled it off excellently. |
May 22, 2016 8:09 PM
#294
Jagd84 said: LoneWizard said: QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: WOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. Manga is not what they are adapting the anime from anyway so double wtf o_O Yeah, as someone who was worried about that scene I thought WF pulled it off excellently. Wait first off I have to address your double WTF. It won't matter if it was adapted from the manga or not by transitive property they are one in the same. If the manga and the anime were both adapted from the LN then the anime and the manga are indirect adaptations of eachother. If A=B and A=C then B=C moving on from the math. TeamDalaiLana said: QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: The Lap scene would have worked better with a darker setting and stronger music. Instead it got lighter, I guess it's a cool contrast like a bitter sweet thing between him crying and the consolation from Emilia. WOW they messed up my lap pillow scene.....I've been waiting for that scene all week 2. In the Manga the feels hit extremely hard on that scene and they made it seem lame. At least they did the wake up scene well. "No sir I think your birth was a mistake." Coldest line EVER Haha. All the anime additions were pretty nice as well. This is shaping up good, still had to give it a 4 due to the fact that I was expecting more from it. Also glad to see Emelia get more screen time this episode <3 I was expecting it to go full emo/suicidal like last week but i mean it was nice. To address the scene Lana said it best, it wasn't as heavy of a setting. The build-up going in to lap pillow was his inner struggle of being perfection and second guessing everything. It didn't display his inner struggle with himself leading to the meltdown point that was the lap pillow scene. Music was a minor thing but didn't emphasize the heavy mood at all. Resulting in the scene we have here which didn't make me feel sad for him. When you read it you get choked up, then you watch it he just seems kind of soft. I'm not saying the scene was bad, it just didn't live up to the expectations for me is all. |
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May 22, 2016 8:09 PM
#295
splendid...this show is raising my expectations every episode... |
May 22, 2016 8:13 PM
#296
Bout the lap scene and people saying it would have been better in a heavy mood, I disagree. That scene is supposed to let Subaru unwind and break down into a sobbing mess in Emilia's warmth, and it portrayed that pretty well. If it had been done in a darker, heavier way, I don't think it would have felt like Subaru was getting his respite via Emilia aka his Jesus. |
May 22, 2016 8:14 PM
#297
SansrivaaL said: bobzanny said: Also if Subaru dies this time and loses all these bonding moments I may have a breakdown. You and me both, hopefully that doesnt happen this time around, that lap pillow was too beautiful to just get thrown out the window like that. It's so sad but I don't have a single doubt in my mind that he's gonna die again. That's his ability. That's what the plot is centred around. My poor boy T-T. .... Although he could make it past as a checkpoint and then end up dying constantly again but with the events of this episode still in play. (Hopefully) But wow that look Rem gave him. Girl looks ready to kill. I hope the twins don't gang up on him or something when they go to the village. |
May 22, 2016 8:20 PM
#298
hailanth said: Bout the lap scene and people saying it would have been better in a heavy mood, I disagree. That scene is supposed to let Subaru unwind and break down into a sobbing mess in Emilia's warmth, and it portrayed that pretty well. If it had been done in a darker, heavier way, I don't think it would have felt like Subaru was getting his respite via Emilia aka his Jesus. It was heavy in the manga though. In the manga when reading his inner thoughts of doubt it built you up for the scene it was written well that way. You could feel all the pressure and weight of being perfect being let off him as Emilia acted as comfort for him. Here it was like well he feels sick from working hard and Boom Lap pillow scene. I just didn't feel that same sorrow for him because I didn't relate with his struggle that wasn't depicted here. Thoughts? Chapter 13 page 18 is pretty much what I am referring to. Re-reading it you could really feel him cracking and then he broke down to Emilia. It just didn't feel that way at all when watching it this episode. Also the flash in his mind about the eyes wasn't there to drill home the point. |
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May 22, 2016 8:20 PM
#299
OneTrueEmiya said: LoneWizard said: OneTrueEmiya said: I think his main issue is that Subaru tries to act genre-savvy. I admittedly dislike those segments too, even if it's just a part of his act. True, it got better as he developed into a more well-rounded character. But at first it really was quite off-putting, especially because it seemed to be shoe-horned in just to make him different from the likes of Kirito and co. QWERTYFish25 said: Incredible how MAL always manages to contort a thread. Moving on... Have you visited our humble UBW subforums just across the road? If not, please do take a few hours to look around. We take pride in being able to derail threads far beyond human comprehension. What are you talking about talking about, whether or not Shirou tripped over an invisible rock may have been the most important debate of our life times, I mean there's a reason there was 20+ pages of debate spilling over into 2 separate episode discussions iirc. Inugirlz said: SansrivaaL said: bobzanny said: Also if Subaru dies this time and loses all these bonding moments I may have a breakdown. You and me both, hopefully that doesnt happen this time around, that lap pillow was too beautiful to just get thrown out the window like that. It's so sad but I don't have a single doubt in my mind that he's gonna die again. That's his ability. That's what the plot is centred around. My poor boy T-T. .... Although he could make it past as a checkpoint and then end up dying constantly again but with the events of this episode still in play. (Hopefully) But wow that look Rem gave him. Girl looks ready to kill. I hope the twins don't gang up on him or something when they go to the village. Since we're nearing the end of the Arc, I'm thinking(praying) that he'll survive because all these moments could serve as cornerstones for his relations going forward, then again this author is a sadist. |
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May 22, 2016 8:21 PM
#300
OhgodohgodohgodSubaruactingoverlycheerfultothepointofhimgettingsickofhimselfandmakingeveryonesuspiciousevenmoreandthenbarfinginthebathroomandthenEmiliaoffershimlappillowwherehefinallybreaksupcompletelyfromthepressureandthenRemstopsemittingherwilltokillhimasshetrustswhatEmiliasaidandthenSubarufinallysaysthanksinsteadofsorryandthenRamsaysthatbothsheandRemwillgowithhimtovillagetogoshoppingthisepisodewasperfectandIcan'twaitonemoreweekbutIhavetoastherearenotranslatedlightnovelsthewaitwillkillmekillmekillmekillmekillmekillmekillmelonglonglonglonglonglonglonglonglongwhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhyIcan'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twaitICAN'TWAIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Phew. Damn. Aaaanyway. A calm before the storm... or was it really? While it was SoL, we saw Subaru basically collapsing under pressure as he tunes his genresavvyness too high to hide his feeling of impeding doom. In his attempt to bond with everyone, he actually caused the opposite effect (proven with how Rem acts around him, and Roswaal's instruction for Ram to keep Rem in check), until Emillia removed the cap from the bottle where he forced his feelings up. Emillia's words also apparently convinced Rem that Subaru's not the one Rem's afraid of being. Subaru's attuned to shadow element? I'm not surprised, considering his apparent connection to the Witch (that hand). It will also be interesting to see where that leads to. Especially as debuffs combo well with close combat. I also like how Ram and Rem started to tease Subaru about lap pillow. And I love how Ram casually said "you'll have two beautiful flowers", to which Subaru replies with "I hope those flowers aren't poisonous", referring to his deaths in 2nd and especially 3rd loop. And I love Ram's smug smile. Really. Dat smug smile... there is a lot of teasing to come. Also, we got quite a lot of world building, we saw why is Emillia reluctant to go to the village ("half elf with long silver hair", no, people would not mistake her for practically the devil of their world, not at all), and it seems that that black dog is indeed the source of the curse. In the ep4 Subaru explicitely mentioned that he "was bit by a small animal", and we see in the ep5 (next loop) that a dog bit him. In ep6 he didn't go shopping with Rem, and was killed by twins before we saw anything about the curse, and in ep7 it was Rem who died from the curse on the same day (after she went shopping). Yangbo said: After this episode, I lost some faith in this show. Subaru is literally getting dumber and dumber by each episode and his fake act this episode was annoying to say the least. We all know what he intends to do, but his actions, especially this episode, was idiotic. Obviously, he wants to earn the trust of the sisters as well as save everyone from the shaman, but how does acting like a complete psycho accomplish that exactly? If anything, I would assume the sisters would be more suspicious about Subaru especially when he revealed how he knew the location of the vase. Pressure. People under pressure are bound to make mistakes; more experienced people make much less mistakes. And the greater the pressure, the more chances to screw up appear. To combat that pressure, Subaru cranked up his idiot act to 11, which had an opposite effect from what he wanted to achieve - something he didn't think of. His subsequent becoming sick of himself, barfing, and then completely breaking up shows just how much he was under pressure, trying to make everything right. Yangbo said: Also, how is Subaru asking twin drills about curses and Puck about shadow magic not setting off any red flags in their heads. Sure, Subaru has memories of them, but he is basically a stranger to twin drills and she basically told him everything she knows without a second thought not to mention the fact that he has free access to the library. His conversation about magic with Puck was a small talk imo - it's completely normal that he'll become curious about magic. He has already shown how little of the world he actually knows (not in this loop to Roswaal, Ram and Rem, but earlier to Emillia and Puck), so it's not something the two should raise a flag about. As for Beatrice, she's already aware that something's off about Subaru. First, he's still emitting witch's scent which she has shown that she can pick immediatelly. Second, he breaks through her Door Crossing too easily. Third, he's constantly talking about his past events in front of her... too precise and detailed for it to be dismissed as a ramblings of the mad person. Fourth, she drained his whole mana once. Remember how in ep4 Puck said to Lia that Subaru's not a bad person? I'm sure spirits have some way to detect intentions of a mere human. Really, thick-headness of some people here is starting to get on my nerves... it's as bad as ufoUBW... no, screw it, it's worse, because unlike ufotable, White Fox delivered here perfectly in each and every episode. OneTrueEmiya said: AivanK said: After the last episode, Beatrice is one the best characters in my opinion. She is always helping him and sometimes punches him too xD I was actually thinking about this: Beatrice seems to be aware of multiple Subaru timelines, but she hasn't acted differently even after last episode. Plot hole or something to be explained afterwards...? And here's a face I didn't want to see... still didn't let go of your idiocy, did you, Emiya Shirou? Well, I guess that's to be expected; after all, you can't even season food correctly. OOC No, Beako is not aware of multiple timelines (proven how she mentioned in several loops how "they only met twice", referring to the mana drain meeting and current meeting), however she is aware that something's off with Subaru, especially as he carries the witch's scent yet looks like a total idiot. That's why she's casually answering him the questions about magic and curses and why she's helping him. |
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