Journey_95 said: I didn't know you had a homophobic view of anime (or in general) And "tainted" is a bit harsh man there are probably some gay people on myanimelist right now I see you haven't seen a thread by him before. |
FGAU1912 said: I just finished watching Training with Hinako and that killed too many brain cells. Please do not contribute.mal over facion on home mdoa sales is fucking stupid as hufiing paint whne only max 20% of total profit pf the indast comes from that |
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FGAU1912 said: Ratohnhaketon said: I just finished watching Training with Hinako and that killed too many brain cells. Please do not contribute. you cannot take fact most of the top grossing anime year on here have that huge amonut od home sales that back up my view Most of the talk here, is about Late night anime. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: As I said, no room for nuance. Sexuality is absolute and every act commited has to be because liking guys is an essential part of his self. Not because of the genetic manipulation they mentioned a few episodes earlier that just doesn't draw a line between genders because for the intended purpose gender was irrelevant. These concepts seem too nuanced for you though since they don't treat sexuality as something absolute where you can either 'like dudes or be normal' basically. Sexuality is mostly vague and it just depends on what mindset society implanted in you whether Homosexuality is seem as something disgusting (christianity) or if sexuality is just seen as another part of life that can be part of all kinds of different relationships. I doesn't have anything to do with religion. I just think they're gross and I don't wanna see them in anime. It's gross because.... Gross is totally subjective. What I find gross is different from yours. There's no universally accepted idea of "gross" Higashi_no_Kaze said: That is exactly my point. You don't give a shit how your homophobia may make other people feel. That's the intolerance and poisonous atmosphere I was talking about. Pretty sure racists don't give a fuck how their remarks make people of other races feel. That's what makes them racist assholes. Not giving a fuck does not make you tolerant. I don't care about being tolerant. Higashi_no_Kaze said: It's a mindset, not the act of hating individual people. It's not only being unable to handle real, gay people, but not accepting the concept of Homosexuality itself as something completely normal that shouldn't be treated with disgust, despise or disrespect, no matter the context. When 5 seconds of kissing make the whole 8-10 hour experience unwatchable, that's a unreasonable aversion against homosexuality, ergo homophobia. I don't see much to argue there. One kiss = the whole characters is GAY to it's core = all other elements of his character and personality become immediately unwatchable since 'they are tainted'' when they are GAY. That's your line of thinking in a nutshell. And from any perspective except strong homophobia that is completely irrational. If you're honestly telling me you don't know why gay people or even people who care would be offended by your statements, then I really can't help you, your thinking is already too far gone. You can't really argue with extremists of any kind, and your stance on homosexuality is definitely extreme no matter how much you pat yourself on the shoulder for managing to not violently attack them on the streets. It's not about the 5 second scene. It's cause the characters are bisexual. And if they're not, please explain why they kissed . [ Higashi_no_Kaze said: he fact that a lot of people think that statements and opinions like yours are actually tolerant and that it's 'normal' treatment, actually does support the argument that we still have the need for 'special' treatment (as in protection from discrimination). If the normal treatment is talking about them as being 'tainted' then yes, they deserve 'special' treatment. You aren't aware of what kind of gays I'm talking about. I remember there was one case where a lesbian sued a catholic school for not allowing her kid there. There was also a photographer sued for not photographing a gay wedding. In Denmark, churches are forced to do gay marriage. I hate those gays because they don't understand the concept of private ownership and think they should be entitled to shit. Higashi_no_Kaze said: On the one hand everything you said (see the rest of my post) and on the other hand especially that stuff about gay characters being 'tainted' (as if that was a morally neutral description) and your absolute views on sexuality as a whole offended me personally since I don't want to live in the middle ages under christian morality. Not in a personal sense, in a very general sense, the same sense that tells me I wouldn't want to live in a society full of racists or antisemitic Nazis. I don't argue against you personally, I argue against your mindset since a lot of people share it and, like you, even think it's a tolerant one. If I find something gross... I just do. I don't think about it. It's not something where I decide "Hey, I'm finding this gross"... I just do. That's how "gross" works... If you said puppies or kittens are disgusting... you'd nither be right nor wrong. I think gays are gross... that's neither a correct, nor incorrect statemenmt, as "gross" doesn't exist. It's subjective. And I can't like a fictional character if they're gay? Why? I just fucking do... I don't care. Higashi_no_Kaze said: Yeah, right. I'm not even gay (that assumption on your side just proves my point about your black/white wordlview), I just don't want to share a society with intolerant, ignorant people who have outdated morals and are ignorant of their own intolerance. It's one thing to be a blatant homophobe, it's another to think of yourself as a messager of tolerance at the same time. I'll always call out hypocrisy, until my dying breath. Seeing how you still think this is only about your choice of anime just shows how ignorant you are of the actual issue (probably on purpose since I spelled it out CLEARLY already). If you find some gay people who support your views over mine be my guest to introduce them to the discussion. But I doubt it, since that would mean you'd have to go and seek out homosexuals, even communicate with them. Could you even do that? I mean, they are 'tainted' after all. " I just don't want to share a society with intolerant, ignorant people who have outdated morals and are ignorant of their own intolerance." I'm not trying to preach "tolerance".... you are. So that burden is on you. I don't care. So to me, it doesn't matter... and you know what my moral views on gays are? My views on lgbt right? My views on whether homosexuality is right or wrong? It's "I don't give a shit"... I can't call homosexuality morally anything. The fact I think it's is subjective, and I don't care. Me thinking it's gross doesn't reflect the morality of it. And I didn't say most gay people would agree with me... Although I'm sure most gays aren't in favor of suing churches, I'm sure a lot of gay libertarians who support laissez-fare economics aren't in favor of letting gay people sure every religious establishment. But on top of all that... Not all gays are fuickign annoying. There are gays like Rob Halford who chose to distance himself from those fucking, stupid, annoying chik fil a protestors... Those people did more damage to gays reputation than some random CEO of some fast food place. An you know what else sensible gays are? They don't care about whether or not i'd watch an anime staring bisexual males or not. |
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| To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. |
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black1blade said: To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. LOL :") naaahhh, probably holy grail-kun having a hissy fit ............ AGAIN !! ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
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WAD1992 said: How did this thread turn from miyazaki hating on moe, to nuking god?black1blade said: To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. LOL :") naaahhh, probably holy grail-kun having a hissy fit ............ AGAIN !! ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Milk_is_Special said: WAD1992 said: How did this thread turn from miyazaki hating on moe, to nuking god?LOL :") naaahhh, probably holy grail-kun having a hissy fit ............ AGAIN !! ¯_(ツ)_/¯ NOOO!! IT was GOD who nuked the city!!! you got it all wrong!! also on a more serious note: the story talks about the citizens of the village, when new people come to the village they take their men and "rape" them .... the act that angered GOD was, without a doubt, the rape part of course ............. i have no idea why people misinterprets this as GOD hating on the gays !!! but the gays are a threat that MUST be dealt with!!! (>_<) |
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black1blade said: To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. And well... I'm not religious. I'm into freedom of all people, freedom for all people. And well... does me not watching shows with gay characters negatively reflect that? Do I no longer think gays are equal? Is my opinion of equality invalid because I don't watch shows with gay/bi MC's? And this person seems to be trying to make me more homophobic. When he said, " black1blade said: To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. I'm not religious, I'm agnostic... maybe the story of Sodom and gommoroah was real? I don't care.. I think gays are equal. My refusal to watch shows with gay characters doesn't matter. WAD1992 said: Milk_is_Special said: How did this thread turn from miyazaki hating on moe, to nuking god? NOOO!! IT was GOD who nuked the city!!! you got it all wrong!! also on a more serious note: the story talks about the citizens of the village, when new people come to the village they take their men and "rape" them .... the act that angered GOD was, without a doubt, the rape part of course ............. i have no idea why people misinterprets this as GOD hating on the gays !!! but the gays are a threat that MUST be dealt with!!! (>_<) Even without that story, the god of the bible is anti-gay... there are too many OT and NT verses to support that. Christinaity is undoubtably an anti-gay religion... I have no issue with chrsitans, nor do I care how they feel about gays. There' nothing wrong with the fact some people find it wrong.... I don't care. |
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Eri-chii said: Moe is the work of the devil Moe is the work of God. |
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Hoppy said: Moe is work.Eri-chii said: Moe is the work of the devil Moe is the work of God. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Hoppy said: Moe is work.Moe is the work of God. wait... hold the fuck on... you mean there's no moe fairy who touches anime with her magic wand to instill the power of moe into it? |
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silversongwriter said: She works, doesn't she?Milk_is_Special said: Moe is work. wait... hold the fuck on... you mean there's no moe fairy who touches anime with her magic wand to instill the power of moe into it? |
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Milk_is_Special said: silversongwriter said: She works, doesn't she?wait... hold the fuck on... you mean there's no moe fairy who touches anime with her magic wand to instill the power of moe into it? you're damn right... she works hard. Thank you for restoring my faith in the moe fairy |
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silversongwriter said: She is real guys...Milk_is_Special said: She works, doesn't she? you're damn right... she works hard. Thank you for restoring my faith in the moe fairy |
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Aeonic said: silversongwriter said: You won't watch a show if the protagonist is gay? You're an infantile bigot that needs to grow up, or maybe you're in the closet secretly pleasuring yourself to grown men.well yea.. I don't watch anime with gay stuff... If the main protagonist is a male homosexual, I won't watch it... but I like it if it's two chicks... Now please explain what that has to do with anything whatsoever? How is that relevant to the topic or literally anything else for that matter? ^ lol |
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| It was probably because in old times there weren't very many people and they needed to breed to survive. If too many people are gay the population dies out. I still think anal is disgusting but I wont stop people from doing it I just wont take part in it. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
WAD1992 said: black1blade said: To be fair, marriage is a religious ceremony so yeah if they don't want to marry two gay people then they don't have to. The reason Christians don't like gays may be due to them being taught that there was this city full of people doing y'know and it was god nuked. LOL :") naaahhh, probably holy grail-kun having a hissy fit ............ AGAIN !! ¯_(ツ)_/¯ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9vhM6yvdrc |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
WAD1992 said: Aeonic said: You won't watch a show if the protagonist is gay? You're an infantile bigot that needs to grow up, or maybe you're in the closet secretly pleasuring yourself to grown men. ^ lol Anyone who's easily offended enough to where my choice of not watching gay shit can actually offend someone is truly infantile... as infantile as the chik fil a protesters... And to be honest.... Most guys I know would not watch a show for that reason. I don't watch yaoi... Even most gay guys don't watch yaoi... It's something for the small niche demographic it cators too. Excuse me for not being in a fucking minority and watching gay Japanese cartoons.. cause guess what... anyone who watches yaoi, is in the minority. Most people don't. I am in the fucking majority by not watching it. I don't find gay shit awesome. I want characters to be awesome. That's all there is to it. There's no fucking point in even arguing about it. I don't give a shit. |
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Lancehot said: WAD1992 said: ^ lol Seems to be a rule of MAL: Every time someone makes a thread/assertion about how the state of anime is stale/bad/moeblob etc, someone mentions SSY as the default "not all anime!" option. Upon this being so, someone else responds to that assertion with "gay kiss, didn't watch (but totally watched the girl kissing gifs lolol." This is then followed by "you homofagphonegaybattyhatertard" & the thread is derailed. Oh well. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Aeonic said: black1blade said: Lack of population has nothing to do with the organized religions bigotry, which is found in scripture such as Leviticus. We know you think anal is disgusting, so you don't mind if I air my thoughts on the matter that I relish the anal experience.It was probably because in old times there weren't very many people and they needed to breed to survive. If too many people are gay the population dies out. I still think anal is disgusting but I wont stop people from doing it I just wont take part in it. Well good for you. I was just saying that may have been a cause for the bigotry ect. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Aeonic said: black1blade said: Lack of population has nothing to do with the organized religions bigotry towards homosexuals, which is found in scripture such as Leviticus. We know you think anal is disgusting, so you don't mind if I air my thoughts on the matter that I relish the anal experience.It was probably because in old times there weren't very many people and they needed to breed to survive. If too many people are gay the population dies out. I still think anal is disgusting but I wont stop people from doing it I just wont take part in it. Aeonic, do you ever get sick of people using the "it's just my opinion" excuse to justify infantile, blind bigotry? Because I do. |
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Aeonic said: black1blade said: Lack of population has nothing to do with the organized religions bigotry towards homosexuals, which is found in scripture such as Leviticus. We know you think anal is disgusting, so you don't mind if I air my thoughts on the matter that I relish the anal experience.It was probably because in old times there weren't very many people and they needed to breed to survive. If too many people are gay the population dies out. I still think anal is disgusting but I wont stop people from doing it I just wont take part in it. Why are we on the topic of religion? WHO CARES BOUT LEVITICUS?!!! Are you a Christian? If not... then it's none of your fucking business what the bible says... I do't care that homosexuality is a sin under Christianity... I don't care about people seeing it as a sin... let religious people believe what they want. It's no business of anyone. Let's talk about something more interesting. If you're a Christian... it's bad. If you're not a Christian, it's nothing since the concept of sin doesn't exist to you. |
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YandereTheEmo said: Aeonic said: Lack of population has nothing to do with the organized religions bigotry towards homosexuals, which is found in scripture such as Leviticus. We know you think anal is disgusting, so you don't mind if I air my thoughts on the matter that I relish the anal experience. Aeonic, do you ever get sick of people using the "it's just my opinion" excuse to justify infantile, blind bigotry? Because I do. There is nothing wrong with people of the same gender loving each other imo. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| What is this thread even about anymore..? |
Aeonic said: silversongwriter said: It's fine if you don't like yaoi or gay porn, I don't watch it either, despite being bi-sexual. The issue is that you continue to make inane comments that can be interpreted as bigoted towards homosexuality. You said you disliked a gay protagonist, simply for being gay and not for doing anything sexual. That's what we like to call discrimination my small minded friend.Anyone who's easily offended enough to where my choice of not watching gay shit can actually offend someone is truly infantile... as infantile as the chik fil a protesters... And to be honest.... Most guys I know would not watch a show for that reason. I don't watch yaoi... Even most gay guys don't watch yaoi... It's something for the small niche demographic it cators too. Excuse me for not being in a fucking minority and watching gay Japanese cartoons.. cause guess what... anyone who watches yaoi, is in the minority. Most people don't. I am in the fucking majority by not watching it. I don't find gay shit awesome. I want characters to be awesome. That's all there is to it. There's no fucking point in even arguing about it. I don't give a shit. Well yes... it is... I guess I'm a homophobic bigot then... too bad. Whatever... if you define homophobe so sensitively then I guess to you I'm a homophobe. I think the term is a little more subjective however. but if not wanting to see gays is homophobic, I guess I am... THERE!!! I consider homophobea subjective term, so as a result, I can't really argue when one of you calls me that. Okay... you win. Congradulations Now can we kindly shut the fuck up about gays and stop derailing the fucking topic with shit I don't care about? |
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| I would have no problems with a mc being gay but I wouldn't really want to watch a show focused on a gay relationship. I rarely watch romantic anime as it is and it gives me a sense of longing ect which is one reason why I watch them, to make me depressed about my life. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I am homophobic in that I wouldn't want to be raped by a predatory man in prison ect. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: That isn't really a good reason to watch shit.I would have no problems with a mc being gay but I wouldn't really want to watch a show focused on a gay relationship. I rarely watch romantic anime as it is and it gives me a sense of longing ect which is one reason why I watch them, to make me depressed about my life. |
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| Respect to him for knowing what's the error of the industry and exposing it. |
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Milk_is_Special said: black1blade said: That isn't really a good reason to watch shit.I would have no problems with a mc being gay but I wouldn't really want to watch a show focused on a gay relationship. I rarely watch romantic anime as it is and it gives me a sense of longing ect which is one reason why I watch them, to make me depressed about my life. Yeah probably not. It is also the fantasising about being in a loving relationship too. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
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Aeonic said: Waifusexual said: Sorry, I kind of helped derailed the thread, but I had to hold the resident bigot accountable for what he was saying.What is this thread even about anymore..? How many times have I admitted that I didn't care about being homophobic? What would you have defined as "taking accountability"? |
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Dark_Chaos said: Derailment level = over 9000. Your memes do not amuse me |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
silversongwriter said: Aeonic said: Sorry, I kind of helped derailed the thread, but I had to hold the resident bigot accountable for what he was saying. How many times have I admitted that I didn't care about being homophobic? What would you have defined as "taking accountability"? Just stop. Keep your opinions to your self because people obviously get pissed. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
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Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: silversongwriter said: How many times have I admitted that I didn't care about being homophobic? What would you have defined as "taking accountability"? Just stop. Keep your opinions to your self because people obviously get pissed. I wouldn't need to say anything if people would stop bringing it up. |
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silversongwriter said: black1blade said: Just stop. Keep your opinions to your self because people obviously get pissed. I wouldn't need to say anything if people would stop bringing it up. Just say I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Gender identity, sexuality and the brain in general are very very confusing things. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Everything is confusing!silversongwriter said: I wouldn't need to say anything if people would stop bringing it up. Just say I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Gender identity, sexuality and the brain in general are very very confusing things. |
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Milk_is_Special said: black1blade said: Everything is confusing!Just say I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Gender identity, sexuality and the brain in general are very very confusing things. Yeah probably |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Just say I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Gender identity, sexuality and the brain in general are very very confusing things. I never said anything bad about it to begin with... other than "I'm not watching a show with a gay MC" and yes... sexuality is very confusing, hence the reason I don't give a shit about it. I never made any moral statement about gays. How can I? Being gay is irrelevant to me and is neither right nor wrong. And right and wrong are subjective. If a Christian says it's morally wrong, they can't be correct or incorrect because morality is completely subjective and souly up to them. |
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