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| I have enjoyed the remake so far, and while censorship does bother me, what has been anoying me since it started is the color pattern. They better change it. |
leokiko said: Mikasa said: leokiko said: So, can I be the first one to bitch about it? The censorship and the colorful pattern of the animation are going to destroy the tension of the York Shin arc, which made the arc awesome. While the heavy themes aren't being censored(ex: Gon watching Killua murdering some1 and still being OK with it) the brutality is. And murder immediately brings brutality and blood and severed heads and so on. So how do they avoid it? SPARKLING FREAKING ''blood''. UGH, bullshit. It's either that, or Hisoka is so powerful that the inside of his arm glows. Anyway, why would they ever get the idea to air HxH in the morning...? Even Medaka Box is less brutal than this. You know a show like Bleach would give you a broken arm instead. The sparkles stopped immediately and you just get a severed arm being tossed around with no significant amount of fucks given. Besides you can already see that the art has significantly changed even for Heavens Arena. The violence and the dark themes are still as they are in all adaptations so nvm about them. Also you can see from last week's flashback that the YS arc is going to be different. If they make things more dark and change the music like you said, then it's cool. But how much will they be able to pull off in the morning? Isn't the morning supposed to air family friendly anime? Of course they won't show anything directly but they won't delete it completely either, like |
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| Damn, cliffhanger! Looks like the fight has just started. |
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| Really glad they included the whole battle in this version. Even though their was not much blood, it was still awesome. |
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| I think i have myself a new character crush here~ That kastro is pretty cute~ However i dont think he's gonna live long, going by the preview. But i can still hope~! D: I dont really mind the pixie dust coming out of his arm. Im not one for too much gore in my shows. So it was good it was censored. To those complaining, at least they shows him getting his arm cut off. They could of easily just censored that as well. :/ Can't wait for the next episode~ <3 |
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leokiko said: So, can I be the first one to bitch about it? The censorship and the colorful pattern of the animation are going to destroy the tension of the York Shin arc, which made the arc awesome. While the heavy themes aren't being censored(ex: Gon watching Killua murdering some1 and still being OK with it) the brutality is. And murder immediately brings brutality and blood and severed heads and so on. So how do they avoid it? SPARKLING FREAKING ''blood''. UGH, bullshit. It's either that, or Hisoka is so powerful that the inside of his arm glows. Anyway, why would they ever get the idea to air HxH in the morning...? Even Medaka Box is less brutal than this. Madhouse said something about making the York Shin arc a darker so there's still hope. ludexm said: As far as i remember in the manga, Hisoka sealed a nen aura on the dismembered arm so he won't lose blood. If that's true than that's alight. Even though this is an anime, I just didn't see the logic in someone emitting a glow after getting injured...unless that's his aura spilling out of his body or something. Anything's better than not having a reason for that. Overall, good episode (besides the glowing part but meh, no big deal) |
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| Bahaha Edward Cullen has some competition. *shot* No, seriously, I'm happy they didn't completely mess up this fight. At least he still lost his arm. (And LOL at him scratching his shoulder with his amputated arm like "IDGAF". That's amazing, enough said.) Still, it'll be good to see how they handle the rest of the fight next episode. (And Machi. Oh yesss~) Otherwise, I enjoyed Killua in this episode. (But, uh, I don't ever not enjoy him. *facedesk*) That shot of him when Kastro commented that his aura said he wanted to fight was brilliant. Incidentally, so was his face after Kastro left LOL d'aww I'm never going to stop loving this kid. *weekly Killua appreciation over* So yeah, that was good. c: Gon's face sometimes, though! Don't get too excited, you foolish boy. =w= |
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| I loved how the commentator girl lived herself into the fight :D:D And also, I just can't get enough of Killua's catface. It's so freaking funny! :DDD |
Vapz said: Bahaha Edward Cullen has some competition. *shot* Apparently. Who knew Hisoka was a fairy? . _ . Ohhh, I want to see Machi and Hisoka without his makeup already. <3 Killua's reaction after he talked to Kastro was funny. But overall, nice episode. The censorship is annoying me a bit though. :/ |
 I still love the way attack names flash up on the screen in combat. Nice feature that other anime ought to adopt. Kind of wish there was a bit more originality though, shadow clone jutsu in my hxh? Why? Censoring is still questionable, the anime can show blood but they revert back to gold reishi particles? Oh and Cocco is an awesome emcee. |
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27CansOfTuna said: I still love the way attack names flash up on the screen in combat. Nice feature that other anime ought to adopt. Kind of wish there was a bit more originality though, shadow clone jutsu in my hxh? Why? Censoring is still questionable, the anime can show blood but they revert back to gold reishi particles? Oh and Cocco is an awesome emcee. HxH =98 so it's the original source out of the 2 >.< |
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| that announcer chick can get quite annoying, but she fits the part perfectly. as for the censorship....come on guys, are you not really used to this by now? and hisoka can be quite the masochist. |
27CansOfTuna said: Considering that the chapter in the manga for this episode was made before the first chapter of Naruto was released, it is not stealing from Naruto.I still love the way attack names flash up on the screen in combat. Nice feature that other anime ought to adopt. Kind of wish there was a bit more originality though, shadow clone jutsu in my hxh? Why? Censoring is still questionable, the anime can show blood but they revert back to gold reishi particles? Oh and Cocco is an awesome emcee. |
| Why is Hisoka so badass? who would be able to keep their cool and scratch their shoulder with their severed arm. |
| The pace feels so slow now, the fight could have clearly been over in this episode. Oh, and lol@ the pixie blood. |
Kayro said: The pace feels so slow now, the fight could have clearly been over in this episode. Oh, and lol@ the pixie blood. How can you fit 4 chapters into one? This isn't Bleach |
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DevilMustDie said: Mikasa said: Kayro said: The pace feels so slow now, the fight could have clearly been over in this episode. Oh, and lol@ the pixie blood. How can you fit 4 chapters into one? This isn't Bleach This is a HXH discussion why you do keep bringing Bleach in this ? 0.o Overall love the episode, want the next Comparing the pace? HxH can't fit 4 chapters into one ep. Would be too condensed and many things would have to be omitted |
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Mikasa said: Comparing the pace? HxH can't fit 4 chapters into one ep. Would be too condensed and many things would have to be omitted quite useless to compare the pace with a series that has had major complains due to pacing. Plus not everyone watches bleach, I don't anymore for example. --- Anyway overall disapointing episode, I don't like the fairy dust. I felt they skipped a lot of dialogue as well so I went and read the manga again to confirm. In the manga hisoka had blood all over his face, there was blood dripping from both ends of the arm, so no it was not sealed up. *Scenes changed, conversations moved from one location to another. *Skipped all parts when killua was bitching about the price of the tickets *Also Gon's reactions to it, "he's a millionaire, listen to him" *skipped the line when killua said that this was their "fatal confrontation/death match", a hint towards a future death, which makes me wonder if the death is going to happen. *forgot to bring paper and a pen *skipped hisoka's thoughts during the fight, that worries me for the spider arc *the dialogue for the commentator was changed *the dialogue between Hisoka and kastro was changed *last but not least, Hisoka shewing on his own arm was removed and changed to something like I now have motivation blabla |
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| but those parts are over. The anime has gone past them and if the anime completely followed the manga, then Hisoka should have been taking bites out of his own arm at the end of this episode, not just a staring contest between him and Kastro. Spoiler for those that have not seen the old series or read the manga below: |
MephzMay 13, 2012 12:04 PM
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| I remember almost every tiny bit of detail from the manga really, recently read it again for like the 3 or 4 time so well hard not to notice :p but as I editted above I think the scene at the end was the scene that was supposed to have some chewing in it, but it did not have any. |
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Mephz said: Mikasa said: Comparing the pace? HxH can't fit 4 chapters into one ep. Would be too condensed and many things would have to be omitted quite useless to compare the pace with a series that has had major complains due to pacing. Plus not everyone watches bleach, I don't anymore for example. --- Anyway overall disapointing episode, I don't like the fairy dust. I felt they skipped a lot of dialogue as well so I went and read the manga again to confirm. In the manga hisoka had blood all over his face, there was blood dripping from both ends of the arm, so no it was not sealed up. *Scenes changed, conversations moved from one location to another. *Skipped all parts when killua was bitching about the price of the tickets *Also Gon's reactions to it, "he's a millionaire, listen to him" *skipped the line when killua said that this was their "fatal confrontation/death match", a hint towards a future death, which makes me wonder if the death is going to happen. *forgot to bring paper and a pen *skipped hisoka's thoughts during the fight, that worries me for the spider arc *the dialogue for the commentator was changed *the dialogue between Hisoka and kastro was changed *last but not least, Hisoka shewing on his own arm was removed and changed to something like I now have motivation blabla Most of that is nitpicking. Most of episode was word for word the manga. |
Most of that is nitpicking. Most of episode was word for word the manga. What do you expect? If someone is going to do a comparison and try to site all the changes they noticed of course there is going to be some nitpicking. Why don't you try doing a comparison. You too will end up with a list ranging from minor to major differences. Discarding or not mentioning the minor changes would be dishonest. |
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Mephz said: Mikasa said: Comparing the pace? HxH can't fit 4 chapters into one ep. Would be too condensed and many things would have to be omitted quite useless to compare the pace with a series that has had major complains due to pacing. Plus not everyone watches bleach, I don't anymore for example. --- Anyway overall disapointing episode, I don't like the fairy dust. I felt they skipped a lot of dialogue as well so I went and read the manga again to confirm. In the manga hisoka had blood all over his face, there was blood dripping from both ends of the arm, so no it was not sealed up. *Scenes changed, conversations moved from one location to another. *Skipped all parts when killua was bitching about the price of the tickets *Also Gon's reactions to it, "he's a millionaire, listen to him" *skipped the line when killua said that this was their "fatal confrontation/death match", a hint towards a future death, which makes me wonder if the death is going to happen. *forgot to bring paper and a pen *skipped hisoka's thoughts during the fight, that worries me for the spider arc *the dialogue for the commentator was changed *the dialogue between Hisoka and kastro was changed *last but not least, Hisoka shewing on his own arm was removed and changed to something like I now have motivation blabla How is it useless? It's exactly why I'm comparing. Bleach needs to have 6 ch. per episode to feel like it's normally paced. HxH chapters have so much going on, you can't fit 4 in one episode without removing something. As for all you've said, they barely changed anything important. More importantly, they didn't delete the fight altogether. And use a spoiler tag. Not everyone has watched/read HxH |
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| comparing shit with poop ain't going to make the shit look any better? Both of those series fall flat when compared with anime with good pacing. |
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Mephz said: comparing shit with poop ain't going to make the shit look any better? Both of those series fall flat when compared with anime with good pacing. Funny how much it makes you a pacing expert when you don't know the basics about it. Stuffing everything in episode = good pacing. Great reasoning. And according to that, this show still has great pacing, one of the best. Just because you say it's shit doesn't make it so, especially someone who keeps trolling these threads. |
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| "Stuffing everything in episode = good pacing. Great reasoning." I didin't say that, but I do think it's vital so stick to the source material, especially when you've said that you are going to be doing just that. The only one claiming to be a pacing expert in this thread is you, but frankly there is not much knowledge needed to see that hunter x hunter could be way better than it is now. Comparing it with bleach hardly makes a case when bleach is probably near bottom of the pile when it comes to good pacing, frankly that show was terrible. ps: how have I been trolling the threads? Do you call everyone trolls that disagrees with you? |
MephzMay 13, 2012 1:40 PM
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Mephz said: "Stuffing everything in episode = good pacing. Great reasoning." I didin't say that, but I do think it's vital so stick to the source material, especially when you've said that you are going to be doing just that. The only one claiming to be a pacing expert in this thread is you, but frankly there is not much knowledge needed to see that hunter x hunter could be way better than it is now. Comparing it with bleach hardly makes a case when bleach is probably near bottom of the pile when it comes to good pacing, frankly that show was terrible. ps: how have I been trolling the threads? Do you call everyone trolls that disagrees with you? I facepalm myself with Hisoka's severed arm about thy comment. And no it's not because you disagree with me, I couldn't care less for your opinion. Because you make no sense at all. It's because you troll. On almost every HxH thread I've seen so far. PS: I mentioned Bleach in order to make a comparison to help me explain something about HxH , no one cares about your personal views concerning the anime itself. At least not on these threads |
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| This is why I usually avoid these threads, it turns into a war zone. I thought Mephz made some good points, doesn't mean I completely agree with them besides the parts about the dialogue that was cut, but they were valid points. I am just happy to see the fight in full, that's just how I look at it. When compared to the brutality of the fight from the manga, there was bound to be people who didn't view it that way and would be disappointed, so I can respect that as long as they have some good reason behind it, which he did... at least in the original post, that's what I'm basing this off of, didn't read the others. |
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| For the past few episodes I've been getting the impression that the pacing is off. The Hunter Exam was, imho, perfectly paced, but since this arc started everything has been going far too fast. Can a manga reader confirm? Or did the old anime just slow everything down to a crawl here so the vague recollection of that fuels my bias? |
Kiraly said: For the past few episodes I've been getting the impression that the pacing is off. The Hunter Exam was, imho, perfectly paced, but since this arc started everything has been going far too fast. Can a manga reader confirm? Or did the old anime just slow everything down to a crawl here so the vague recollection of that fuels my bias? So far almost all episodes have been 2 chapters per episode. With arc/mini arc transition episodes adapting 1-1.5 chapter (waiting 50 hours in trick tower, Gotoh's coin game, etc) But I think the older version had a faster pace here due to omission, so it's kinda weird that you say this episode went fast :P Since we're discussing whether it's normally paced or too slow. According to the preview, next episode will be exactly 2 chapters, from start to finish |
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Mikasa said: So far almost all episodes have been 2 chapters per episode. With arc/mini arc transition episodes adapting 1-1.5 chapter (waiting 50 hours in trick tower, Gotoh's coin game, etc) But I think the older version had a faster pace here due to omission, so it's kinda weird that you say this episode went fast :P Since we're discussing whether it's normally paced or too slow. According to the preview, next episode will be exactly 2 chapters, from start to finish Okay, maybe not this episode particularly. It's just that the whole climbing the tower + Nen introduction went by incredibly fast, in a 'here's your generic magic fighting power, and oh yeah they beat lots of opponents off-screen and now they've leveled up' fashion. I guess I just prefer a more languid pace in long-running shonen (although not necessarily to the extent that certain other series employ). |
Kiraly said: Mikasa said: So far almost all episodes have been 2 chapters per episode. With arc/mini arc transition episodes adapting 1-1.5 chapter (waiting 50 hours in trick tower, Gotoh's coin game, etc) But I think the older version had a faster pace here due to omission, so it's kinda weird that you say this episode went fast :P Since we're discussing whether it's normally paced or too slow. According to the preview, next episode will be exactly 2 chapters, from start to finish Okay, maybe not this episode particularly. It's just that the whole climbing the tower + Nen introduction went by incredibly fast, in a 'here's your generic magic fighting power, and oh yeah they beat lots of opponents off-screen and now they've leveled up' fashion. I guess I just prefer a more languid pace in long-running shonen (although not necessarily to the extent that certain other series employ). Oh, the older series did add some fillers (like the Darth Maul guy, and the elevator girl) and made it longer, they also pushed most of the explanations to an earlier point while the new series still has many to explain about Nen (mainly Hatsu) But all-in-all both versions are about 9-episodes long of heavens arena..I think |
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| awesome episode can't wait for next episode looks awesome!!! |
there76 said: Original was 8 episodes. This might go up to 10, but 9 is a sure thing. These are the next few episodes. 13 May #31 インネン×ト×シュウネン --> #31 Destiny and Tenacity (This was yesterdays episode.) 20 May #32 ドッキリ×ナ×ショウリ --> #32 Shocking victory (Will finish up Hisoka fight, and have the aftermath) (Maybe also go into Hatsu.) 27 May #33 ケイハク×ナ×キョウハク --> #33 Shallow Threat (Might finish up Hatsu) (The episode where the the thugs do there thing, and Killua also threatens.) 03 June #34 ジツリョク×デ×セツジョク --> #34 Revenge with his true power.(Fight against pig man.) That is already 8 for the arc. After that we still have the Hisoka fight. Shower scene is the ending of ep thirty two (If we assume they show exactly 2 chapters up till 55 p.19 which I think fits perfectly Ep. Thirty Three (Number three in my keyboard isn't working :P) is about Hatsu and the thugs |
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| i like how they remembered that no one can see the nen, as shown in the TV screen. |
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| Great to see this fight in full length; the original version really rushed this fight imo so it's nice to see some improvements in the remake. Not that I'm complaining or anything but I wish they'd leave the gore as it is, would make it even more epic if they did. Hisoka never gets serious from the start unless he feels threatened; that makes him a arrogant badass |
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