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Feb 24, 2015 8:55 AM
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Haise is as much a ghoul as Kaneki was.

He doesn't despise his ghoul self, rather he fears it (together with his past).

The CCG considers Haise a ghoul, judging by this page -> http://imperialscans.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/7-people-in-the-dark/17.
Feb 24, 2015 9:02 AM

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Yes, you're absolutely right. I agree with that part said by you but my comment was oriented more towards the details stated in this page.

http://imperialscans.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/7-people-in-the-dark/19

What I meant to say is, they still consider him human as long as Haise 'behaves'. So for me, the way he acts is still human. His mentality in TG:Re is similar to that of a human as long as his Kaneki persona does not shows up.

And while we're at it,
Putrescence said:
Haise is as much a ghoul as Kaneki was.

then we're both wrong here as Haise is still half-human and half-ghoul.

I hope you get it what I'm trying to say here. Maybe my wording was indeed wrong earlier and for that I accept my mistake.
Feb 24, 2015 9:16 AM
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No worries. But I still don't agree with you.

The CCG treat Haise as a human, but they recognize the fact that he is a ghoul (i.e. they consider him a ghoul). There is a difference.

Haise/Kaneki is a ghoul-human hybrid. Which means that he is both human and ghoul (or neither, depending on the point of view). Eg, we haven't yet seen something a ghoul can do that Haise/Kaneki can't do.

The mentality of Kaneki was also "human", so it is not something exclusive to Haise.
Feb 24, 2015 11:11 AM

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I dont want the white haired Kaneki back.He was a mentally ill person.
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i want him to regain his memories bit by bit. for example when he remembered nishiki, he went berserk. next one is touka or ... idk somebody else maybe. but i want to see his reactions to every single character that is important to him. for example he called touka 'cute' when he saw her first. then in :re, he saw touka and thought she was beautiful, again.

i want things like that. you got what i mean, right? first impression for every character lol
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Mar 4, 2015 5:58 AM

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I think he will regain them soon. But knowing Ishida some plot-twist will happen and it will change everything.
Mar 4, 2015 7:04 AM

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sasaki > kaneki anyway
kaneki is too emo
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Mar 4, 2015 10:35 AM

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Kaneki > haise since haise is a fakeass character... Hope we will see Kaneki soon!
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VongolaShadzzo said:
Kaneki > haise since haise is a fakeass character... Hope we will see Kaneki soon!

Lol Kaneki was a fakeass character too.
Mar 4, 2015 10:57 AM

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At the beginning of :re I hated Sasaki and just wanted Kaneki back lol. Now I'm kinda conflicted because he seems so happy as Sasaki.

He's found a group of people he cares about in the Quinx, Akira, Arima, etc. but at the same time he's lost people that still care about him and he used to care about like Touka.

Like he brings up when he and Shirazu are talking in the club, I'm curious what he will think of the Quinx and CCG in general when he gets his memories back.

The insane amount of buildup to this auction arc makes me think the Sasaki/Kaneki transition is probably happening soon. Either way it will be pretty cool to see the old Kaneki again.
Mar 4, 2015 11:20 AM

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ninjastarforcex said:
sasaki > kaneki anyway
kaneki is too emo

Emo how? I find these comments the most annoying.

Really looking forward to seeing how the story will go once he regains his memories. I'm sure he'll still cherish the people he's made relationships with as Sasaki. What I'm really looking forward to most is him remembering Hide.
Mar 4, 2015 2:46 PM

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TG is based on the fool's journey. It's at the tower at the moment. I don't know how many chapters the tower will be, but Kaneki is going to wake up at the end of the tower (16) and the beginning of star (17).

I still wonder if each volume equals 1 of the tarot cards that represent the journey. If it is, then re will be much shorter than TG. unless re will be each 2 volumes represents one of the remaining cards in the fool's journey. then Re is possible as long as TG and Kaneki would regain his memories in end vol 4 begin vol 5.

Happy happy happy!!!
Apr 1, 2015 11:59 PM
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At the beginning of :re I hated Sasaki and just wanted Kaneki back lol. Now I'm kinda conflicted because he seems so happy as Sasaki.

He's found a group of people he cares about in the Quinx, Akira, Arima, etc. but at the same time he's lost people that still care about him and he used to care about like Touka.

Like he brings up when he and Shirazu are talking in the club, I'm curious what he will think of the Quinx and CCG in general when he gets his memories back.

The insane amount of buildup to this auction arc makes me think the Sasaki/Kaneki transition is probably happening soon. Either way it will be pretty cool to see the old Kaneki again.


Is he happy?



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Apr 2, 2015 10:40 AM

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You people make it look like Kaneki was the happiest version out there. Just because he has conflicted thoughts over his previous lifestyle, memories, friends and family (alright no family ;_;) and that chin touch in chapter 8 does not means he is completely sad. He still has his quinx-kids who looks after aand respect him (except Urie at this moment).

Let Ishida focus on Sasaki till his memories return, and how he accepts them no less. Even if Kaneki returns, just remember the fact that your 'ideal' Kaneki would be different from before.
Apr 2, 2015 11:27 AM

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Sasaki is a great character and I hope that once he's regained his memories he'll stay more the way he is now than the way Kaneki was. Am I making sense?
(maybe he could hide the fact that he's regained memories at some point, it'd be interesting)
Apr 2, 2015 3:12 PM

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I don't want his memories to come back.
Could you imagine how chaotic he will be?!
Knowing what they did to him
If he regains his memories it has to be someone he admired,loved,trusted.
My chances are Amon,Touka,Yomo maybe still with Rize.
Thinking also Rize,could
Who ever awakens Ken Kaneki it will be havoc it that place.
Especially knowing how he couldn't control them in chapter 2-3
Apr 2, 2015 3:17 PM

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I want both his memories to merge into one.
But I want his crazy side back already :(
Apr 2, 2015 5:48 PM

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I want both his memories to merge into one.
But I want his crazy side back already :(
Yeah I feel the same. I definitely don't want his personality as Sasaki to disappear but I miss the insane Kaneki and his awesome lines. "Do you know what kind of sound you hear when you put a live centipede in your ear?"
Apr 2, 2015 11:24 PM

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I prefer Sasaki over Kaneki, Kaneki is fvcked up, dude. Being black and white is better than just being white or black IMO. I think Sasaki is meant to be the balanced version of Kaneki.

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I am willing to bet that sasaki is like a clone of some sort and the "previous kaneki" is being kept inside like those tanks for future ghoul experiments that the CCG will perform. as for the anime it can go in any direction so we will just have to wait while the story unravels, No pun intended.
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Nuvi said:
You people make it look like Kaneki was the happiest version out there. Just because he has conflicted thoughts over his previous lifestyle, memories, friends and family (alright no family ;_;) and that chin touch in chapter 8 does not means he is completely sad. He still has his quinx-kids who looks after aand respect him (except Urie at this moment).

Let Ishida focus on Sasaki till his memories return, and how he accepts them no less. Even if Kaneki returns, just remember the fact that your 'ideal' Kaneki would be different from before.


^I agree.

People tend to forget the white haired Kaneki was suffering. Sasaki is way happier than he was as Kaneki especially Shironeki. The problem lies within Sasaki is he is ignorant and rejecting his old memories. It's like he's living in his dream with this CCG family and all, no matter what, the Kaneki is bound to come back, he is just resting/sleeping.

Anyways I don't mind any type of Kaneki as long as he's happy, and Sasaki is really doing great job at being happy and he has both Kuroneki and Shironeki traits so.. I'm leaning more to him. But with Ishida's latest bday comic, he kept tagging 'Oyasumi Haise' it's time to say goodbye to him ;_;
Apr 3, 2015 4:20 AM
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Wow, there are several people here who like Sasaki, that's good, as for me, I like to be known as Kaneki Ken, but he who does not have a true personality, since it copies the people closest to him and it got new psychological traits.

I'm looking forward to when he starts to imitate Arima and start using glasses.

as the question emo.

Shironeki was never emo, emo was ridiculous that the anime version gave him, we can see how the Kaneki that Ishida planned for the anime and the anime staff did were different by the draft.
Apr 3, 2015 4:37 AM

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TheEternalOne said:
I am willing to bet that sasaki is like a clone of some sort and the "previous kaneki" is being kept inside like those tanks for future ghoul experiments that the CCG will perform. as for the anime it can go in any direction so we will just have to wait while the story unravels, No pun intended.
Lol I thought people were done with this...
Apr 3, 2015 5:02 AM

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TheEternalOne said:
I am willing to bet that sasaki is like a clone of some sort and the "previous kaneki" is being kept inside like those tanks for future ghoul experiments that the CCG will perform. as for the anime it can go in any direction so we will just have to wait while the story unravels, No pun intended.

Yep, i agree.
Apr 3, 2015 10:54 AM

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im done with this happy/unhappy thing. if he is happy, so what????

he will f*ucking regain his memories and begin to suffer, again. go die optimist peeple !! lool

whatever. he will regain his memories. and he is not copying the people are closest to him. where did you come to a conclusion like this? dont underestimate kaneki pls. he can be fool but not a wannabe... pls pls pls just pls -.-
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Apr 5, 2015 4:46 AM

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Considering that it took around 70 chapters for the series to change its direction(original one) and around 70 more for it to end , if we take that into account Sasaki will probably get it back around 70 chapters, so plus minus 50 chapters remaining.. imo
Apr 5, 2015 6:27 AM
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Not so soon, remember it took a genius effort/plot to set it up so Kaneki and Amon(?) can swap their position. At the same time, view the world from different perspective. That's probably what :re is trying to portrait.

Kaneki returning too soon will spoil the whole frigging set up or do you wanna see the clowns toying with his life again that bad? lol
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Not so soon, remember it took a genius effort/plot to set it up so Kaneki and Amon(?) can swap their position. At the same time, view the world from different perspective. That's probably what :re is trying to portrait.

Kaneki returning too soon will spoil the whole frigging set up or do you wanna see the clowns toying with his life again that bad? lol

clowns toying with his life again would be much more interesting than playing house with his fake family:)
Apr 5, 2015 7:24 AM
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Plot twist, i think Kaneki will not return and his personality will disappear in the end but Haise will get Kaneki 's memory.
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Surprised at the amount of people who don't want Kaneki back. Even more surprised at the amount of people who like Haise. Haise is way too dull. I don't like him. At least part 1 Kaneki (before the torture) was interesting. Haise is boring. The only reason I indulge his existence is because I'm hoping it GOES AWAY. I'm hoping for a merge of part 1 Kaneki and part 2 Kaneki. Obv Kaneki isn't going to be like, "See ya" to his squad, but after regaining his memories, there's no way he's gonna stay.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Kaneki is going to be a martyr and sacrifice himself for the greater good at the end of the manga, but I honestly wouldn't like that ending. My preferred ending is for Kaneki to finally go back to school and hopefully settle down with Touka.

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Surprised at the amount of people who don't want Kaneki back. Even more surprised at the amount of people who like Haise. Haise is way too dull. I don't like him. At least part 1 Kaneki (before the torture) was interesting. Haise is boring. The only reason I indulge his existence is because I'm hoping it GOES AWAY. I'm hoping for a merge of part 1 Kaneki and part 2 Kaneki. Obv Kaneki isn't going to be like, "See ya" to his squad, but after regaining his memories, there's no way he's gonna stay.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Kaneki is going to be a martyr and sacrifice himself for the greater good at the end of the manga, but I honestly wouldn't like that ending. My preferred ending is for Kaneki to finally go back to school and hopefully settle down with Touka.
I'm sure most people want Kaneki back. We just don't want his Haise personality to disappear. But I do see where you're coming from. Also If Sasaki didn't have his past going for him he would be a pretty dull protagonist. What makes him so special is his past as Kaneki.
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Also If Sasaki didn't have his past going for him he would be a pretty dull protagonist. What makes him so special is his past as Kaneki.

This feels wrong for some reason. Although it's your opinion but I strongly disagree.


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Some people are disappointed because they looking forward to seeing Kaneki develop, but his development was cut short. Unless Haise regains his memories and becomes Kaneki again, they will never accept him as TG main character over Kaneki.
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You must be insane to think that Kaneki isn't going to recover his memories. And there was no more development for that Kaneki. Some people are disappointed because some other people don't seem to understand that.
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Ragna92 said:
Also If Sasaki didn't have his past going for him he would be a pretty dull protagonist. What makes him so special is his past as Kaneki.

This feels wrong for some reason. Although it's your opinion but I strongly disagree.
Well, calling him dull was going too far but he wouldn't be no where near as interesting if he was actually a brand new character. He's like the aftermath of Kaneki just without memories.
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Sasaki's character feels so fake right now. He needs to regain his memory to become the person he wants to be. He'll probably break loose and go crazy again, but hope he calms down. I think this is the only way he's going to have chance at fighting the stronger ghouls.
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Apr 5, 2015 7:19 PM
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Im sure we'll see Kaneki shine in the Auction Arc and then Haise takes over and we wont see Kaneki regain his memories "fully" until we are well into the series
Apr 5, 2015 8:32 PM
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if aogiri is aware of haise=kaneki then no doubt it'll incrementally occur in this arc. I'm hoping ishida takes his time by transitioning kaneki's memories into haise's consciousness in a way that allows haise to incorporate(capable of using his kagune and confronting the past without having a nervous breakdown), accept(right now, he rejects kaneki 100%), and inevitably rationalizing both personalities and memories to the point that he becomes..kanekaise.
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I'm sure auction arc is going to play a role in Haise regaining his past memories. Hope, Uta is planning to fuck with his head a little.
But as for his reaction to them goes... I just hope is not going to turn into 100% Kaneki. Haise is more mentally stable (at least he seems that way, I'm sure CcG brainwashed him) so way he deals with them might surprise us,or he's going to have some kind mental breakdown,during which he kill/hurt someone close to him(boring.
Haise/Kaneki's actions are kinda hard to predict because of plot and how fucked up he's inside.
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I'm sure when Haise starts to fight against someone he knew from his previous life, some memories will resurface like in one of the previous chapters. Then slowly it will build up until Kaneki returns probably having also Haise's memory as well.
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Sasaki...Fake...? What is Kaneki's real character then?Imo if anything, Sasaki is everything Kaneki yearns to be. Someone who can help other people, someone with a family(dont tell me his bond with the quinx is fake). Plus Haise has both Kuroneki's and Shironeki's attitude.

I think if Ishida is going to keep both Kaneki and Haise, it's likely for him to keep Haise's personality but to have Kaneki's memory.
Apr 9, 2015 5:43 AM
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I think Haise and kaneki will meet in some middle ground having kinda a switch one to his crazy side and another to his normal good side
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I wouldn't mind to have a Sensui(from yu yu hakusho) "like" character as Kaneki.
Apr 28, 2015 8:49 AM
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I belive Sasaki will accept his old memories as Kaneki, I personally REALLY miss Kaneki with black hair. But he's touching his chin (lying) when https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftgre-news.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F104397548597%2Fmay-i-ask-what-is-your-opinion-of-touka&ei=iKs_VeOaFcW_sAXIzYHwBg&psig=AFQjCNH4X5p7QEnLtIQ68FlC_WGwcOhCYA&ust=1430322039210478

he said he was really happy living as Sasaki, so obiously, he does not like living this way, and will turn back eventually, and what's the point in adding Kaneki to the story if he never comes back without changing anything, if that's the case, just get rid of the first two series.
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I think he'll get his memories, and will try to hide it from everyone all while having a war inside himself and it'll be damn good OKAY IT WILL HAPPEN NOBODY ELSE WILL TELL ME OTHERWISE LALALA
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Yeah, I also prefer Sasaki (but I prefer the CCG side of the story in general).
I don't want White Kaneki taking over him, since that personality and development was going nowhere. He was broken and getting progressively more broken, and his fights didn't help anyone in the broad picture.
He looks much more in his own place in this version.

Also if Amon is still the lead of the second plotline, Kaneki will have to stay on CCG's side at least until Amon reemerges (oh, how do I look forward to it...).
May 18, 2015 6:50 PM

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It's still to early for Kaneki to come back again

Besides in the end I predict that both Kaneki and Haise personalities wll fuse somehow, making Kaneki whole again
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Hopefully soon Sasaki as he is now is just boring ..

Don't get me wrong I don't want crazy Kaneki back but I still want this to be Kaneki's story (just not crazy and more stable like Sasaki) not some fake dude called Sasaki who's whole existence is a lie

So pls Kaneki come back soon
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Hopefully soon Sasaki as he is now is just boring ..

Don't get me wrong I don't want crazy Kaneki back but I still want this to be Kaneki's story (just not crazy and more stable like Sasaki) not some fake dude called Sasaki who's whole existence is a lie

So pls Kaneki come back soon


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FanEu said:
Hopefully soon Sasaki as he is now is just boring ..

Don't get me wrong I don't want crazy Kaneki back but I still want this to be Kaneki's story (just not crazy and more stable like Sasaki) not some fake dude called Sasaki who's whole existence is a lie

So pls Kaneki come back soon


Are you forgetting something that Sasaki is Kaneki. This is still Kaneki's story or are we reading different series now? Even Hinami acknowledged Haise as Kaneki, her onii chan.

Dont get me wrong, neither Sasaki nor Kaneki will stay, this MC of TG continues to evolve and we will not leave Sasaki or Kaneki by the end of the series.

Can people pls not downplay Sasaki relationship with the CCG folks? They, the CCG people esp the Quinx kids, Akira and probably Arima are as important to Sasaki's life as much as the Anteiku people to Kaneki. I seriously think some people are too blinded by their hatred towards CCG to actually comprehend what Ishida is trying to deliver in his story by giving us the CCG POV atm.
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