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May 13, 2014 10:34 PM

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Ambient_ said:


Three days? What do you normally get when you run a speed test online? If you do have a bad connection then just download ten episodes at a time or if you're seriously wanting to watch the series at that specific moment download one and while you're watching it download the next one.
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May 13, 2014 10:44 PM

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ClannadQs said:
Three days? What do you normally get when you run a speed test online?


I average at 5 down 1 up. I should also say that the 3+ days was just an estimate, seeing as how I haven't downloaded any 1080p series in almost 2 years now? But it should be around there.

If you do have a bad connection then just download ten episodes at a time or if you're seriously wanting to watch the series at that specific moment download one and while you're watching it download the next one.


Or I can just stream it from CR or another site. The only anime I download nowadays are just movies.
May 13, 2014 10:57 PM

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Ambient_ said:
Streaming 1080p quality-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OPyoutube_zpsad15f49d.png

Downloaded 1080p Blu-Ray quality-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OP2_zpsaf817d0f.png

Just open in two tabs and flip back and forth.

Not even a great example as the characters aren't made to look too amazing in Madoka. Just wondering why you guys would take a dip in quality when it takes like ten minutes to download one episode, if not less.
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May 13, 2014 11:09 PM

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Ambient_ said:
Now I'm perfectly happy with watching in 480p. I watch anime to enjoy the content, not squint my eyes trying to determine the difference between 1080p and 720p, especially since I usually watch from my bed.
May 13, 2014 11:12 PM

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Now I'm perfectly happy with watching in 480p. I watch anime to enjoy the content, not squint my eyes trying to determine the difference between 1080p and 720p, especially since I usually watch from my bed.
You would have to squint your eyes to see the differences? You can hardly make out the shapes in the background and details on her face in the streaming version. Hell, the entire video is fuzzy in the streaming version. How can you not spot that? Also, the color isn't as vivid. The differences amplify while in motion, too. Keep in mind that those are both 1080p. The quality difference between 720p streaming and the 1080p download link I just shared would be even larger.
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May 13, 2014 11:50 PM

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ClannadQs said:
Ambient_ said:
Ambient_ said:
Now I'm perfectly happy with watching in 480p. I watch anime to enjoy the content, not squint my eyes trying to determine the difference between 1080p and 720p, especially since I usually watch from my bed.
You would have to squint your eyes to see the differences? You can hardly make out the shapes in the background and details on her face in the streaming version. Hell, the entire video is fuzzy in the streaming version. How can you not spot that? Also, the color isn't as vivid. The differences amplify while in motion, too. Keep in mind that those are both 1080p. The quality difference between 720p streaming and the 1080p download link I just shared would be even larger.


I was using the phrase figuratively in that the difference between the two is too negligible for me to care. Anything 480p and over I'd gladly watch. Very rarely do I consciously admire the details.

Perhaps you should just accept that not everyone places that same amount of importance on visual fidelity as you do.

I value my time more than the quality of the video. Downloading saturates my network and that limits what I can do during the process.
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Ambient_ said:
I understand that, but don't you at least get a slight boost in joy watching an extremely beautiful series? I just like to milk everything I can out of a series. If I know I can enjoy a series even 1% more by getting BD then I will do it.
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May 13, 2014 11:59 PM

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ClannadQs said:
I understand that, but don't you at least get a slight boost in joy watching an extremely beautiful series? I just like to milk everything I can out of a series. If I know I can enjoy a series even 1% more by getting BD then I will do it.


If one of the hooks of the anime is its beauty, then yes. Otherwise, no.

And since you responded before my little edit above, I'll just append what I said here:

I value my time more than the quality of the video. Downloading saturates my network and that limits what I can do during the process.
May 14, 2014 12:06 AM

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Ambient_ said:
ClannadQs said:
I understand that, but don't you at least get a slight boost in joy watching an extremely beautiful series? I just like to milk everything I can out of a series. If I know I can enjoy a series even 1% more by getting BD then I will do it.


If one of the hooks of the anime is its beauty, then yes. Otherwise, no.

And since you responded before my little edit above, I'll just append what I said here:

I value my time more than the quality of the video. Downloading saturates my network and that limits what I can do during the process.
I guess you go with what you have to work with. My college's LAN ran up to 99mbps and my home's wifi goes up to 18mbps. I can see how much time it would take to download a decently sized series on your network.
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May 14, 2014 12:43 AM

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The really good series deserve high-quality 1080p (not those mini-upscaled stuff). I usually get everything in 720p first, but if a series turns out to be really good (i.e. Steins;Gate), then I must sacrifice 20-30GB to the HDD god for glorious 1080p.
May 14, 2014 1:00 AM

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720p AAC should be fine. 1080p would be good if you had a bigger TV, I guess, but otherwise it just takes up way more time to dl than is necessary.

I'm not really sure if there are any significant advantages for FLAC over AAC for just watching anime. I guess if you are really into sound quality for the BGM or something...but even then I don't think it makes that much of a difference, just for watching stuff on TV or whatever
May 14, 2014 8:44 AM

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I will download:

480p - If I am planning on watching it on my iPhone (converting it)
720p - If I am planning on watching it on my PC
1080p - If I am planning on watching it on my HDTV

Simple as that.
May 14, 2014 8:59 AM

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1080p for movies.
1080p for series that I really liked.
720p everything else.

I watch on a 50 inch TV (and sit close) and the difference between 720p and 1080p is often not worth it. Though it depends on the show.

Need to get a new hard drive soon.
May 14, 2014 9:02 AM

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FatherAnderson said:
720p is more than sufficient. It looks about the same as 1080p yet it takes up less than half the space. Really, unless you're someone who HAS to watch anime 2 inches from your screen just go with 720p.

This, you seriously can't distinguish anything between the two unless you have a 40-inch screen.
May 14, 2014 9:56 AM

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FatherAnderson said:
720p is more than sufficient. It looks about the same as 1080p yet it takes up less than half the space. Really, unless you're someone who HAS to watch anime 2 inches from your screen just go with 720p.

This, you seriously can't distinguish anything between the two unless you have a 40-inch screen.
How can you guys not? There is literally twice the amount of detail in 1080p than 720p. It's extremely easy to pick up on even on my laptop's 17.3 inch screen and my 23 inch monitor. You sure you guys aren't down scaling when you're watching or that your TV/monitor's native resolution isn't 720p? Hell, there is even a huge difference between Blu-Ray 1080p and standard 1080p.

Standard Streaming 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OPyoutube_zpsad15f49d.png

Blu-Ray 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OP2_zpsaf817d0f.png

Open in two tabs and flip. Keep in mind both of those images are down scaled and I have no idea why. The full sized images are 1080p, so there would be even more of a difference visible if they weren't downscaled.
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May 14, 2014 9:58 AM

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I always go for 1080p on my TV but for 720p on my PC
May 14, 2014 12:13 PM

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I rather not waste space since quality doesn't come from pixel quantity.
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May 14, 2014 12:25 PM

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ClannadQs said:
Khaoscontrol said:
FatherAnderson said:
720p is more than sufficient. It looks about the same as 1080p yet it takes up less than half the space. Really, unless you're someone who HAS to watch anime 2 inches from your screen just go with 720p.

This, you seriously can't distinguish anything between the two unless you have a 40-inch screen.
How can you guys not? There is literally twice the amount of detail in 1080p than 720p. It's extremely easy to pick up on even on my laptop's 17.3 inch screen and my 23 inch monitor. You sure you guys aren't down scaling when you're watching or that your TV/monitor's native resolution isn't 720p? Hell, there is even a huge difference between Blu-Ray 1080p and standard 1080p.

Standard Streaming 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OPyoutube_zpsad15f49d.png

Blu-Ray 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OP2_zpsaf817d0f.png

Open in two tabs and flip. Keep in mind both of those images are down scaled and I have no idea why. The full sized images are 1080p, so there would be even more of a difference visible if they weren't downscaled.


Your laptop may have a larger pixel count, since 720p and 1080p refer to the pixel count, which creates a better picture.
This is about Smartphones and resolution, but it gives the idea.
May 14, 2014 3:11 PM

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That's exactly the point I made a few pages back. You shouldn't be voting on this if your monitor can't handle 1080p.
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May 14, 2014 7:05 PM

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What's the difference between lossy and lossless?
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What's the difference between lossy and lossless?


lossy compression means reducing the bitrate/filesize to attain the same or target quality (that is why lossy are small in filesize) while lossless compression means the their is no reducing of bitrate/filesize to get the same or target quality (that is why lossless are big in filesize)
May 14, 2014 7:31 PM

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Soren333 said:
What's the difference between lossy and lossless?
The other user answered it. Other than that, don't pay any attention to it. My headphone and amp setup costs well over 800 dollars and it's still a decent challenge to pick up on differences between lossless files and higher bitrate mp3s. It's not worth the money or time to go after Flac/Wave files.
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May 15, 2014 1:32 AM

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720p. The quality doesn't really differ that much from 1080p but it's great if you're watching on a big TV (^__^)
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May 15, 2014 1:35 AM

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Depends on the anime but usually 720p.
May 15, 2014 6:26 AM

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Anime characters aren't very detailed so it rather don't make big difference for them, otherwise with backgrounds, but they aren't important that much.

720p is enough for regular shows
1080p for graphically advanced shows
I just wonder when we will jump to 2160p
May 15, 2014 7:01 AM
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Khaoscontrol said:
FatherAnderson said:
720p is more than sufficient. It looks about the same as 1080p yet it takes up less than half the space. Really, unless you're someone who HAS to watch anime 2 inches from your screen just go with 720p.

This, you seriously can't distinguish anything between the two unless you have a 40-inch screen.
How can you guys not? There is literally twice the amount of detail in 1080p than 720p. It's extremely easy to pick up on even on my laptop's 17.3 inch screen and my 23 inch monitor. You sure you guys aren't down scaling when you're watching or that your TV/monitor's native resolution isn't 720p? Hell, there is even a huge difference between Blu-Ray 1080p and standard 1080p.

Standard Streaming 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OPyoutube_zpsad15f49d.png

Blu-Ray 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OP2_zpsaf817d0f.png

Open in two tabs and flip. Keep in mind both of those images are down scaled and I have no idea why. The full sized images are 1080p, so there would be even more of a difference visible if they weren't downscaled.


Ummm, i am not sure whether you know what you are talking about since you are comparing a video file dedicated for streaming purposes and the other for quality. A video file ripped from a Blu-ray disc will always be if not mostly better than a video file taken from a streaming site. Those videos are meant to be distributed quickly through the internet and play on the go. Due to that, the footage seems to be bitrate starved(artifacts/pixelisation) as you can see in the pics you had given. They do this mainly to lower the file size so it can be streamed more faster for the audience rather than spent more time waiting. Not really the best comparisons regarding the difference between resolutions in anime if both were obtained from two different sources.

Not sure whether you know this or not but most of the anime produced today are still in 720p rather than in 1080p with the general exception of KyoAni's anime which is a bit of a hybrid of both resolutions. So, watching an anime, in this case Madoka, in full HD resolution actually is an upscale and watching it in 720p won't lose any visual quality at all. In most cases, you will gain more visual quality given you are watching it in its original resolution and certainly not worse than its 1080p counterpart.

From what i am able to perceived here is that you are experiencing the typical placebo effect when they say more is better which is common among anime fans.
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worldeditor11 said:
ClannadQs said:
Khaoscontrol said:
FatherAnderson said:
720p is more than sufficient. It looks about the same as 1080p yet it takes up less than half the space. Really, unless you're someone who HAS to watch anime 2 inches from your screen just go with 720p.

This, you seriously can't distinguish anything between the two unless you have a 40-inch screen.
How can you guys not? There is literally twice the amount of detail in 1080p than 720p. It's extremely easy to pick up on even on my laptop's 17.3 inch screen and my 23 inch monitor. You sure you guys aren't down scaling when you're watching or that your TV/monitor's native resolution isn't 720p? Hell, there is even a huge difference between Blu-Ray 1080p and standard 1080p.

Standard Streaming 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OPyoutube_zpsad15f49d.png

Blu-Ray 1080p-
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/colbyrules8/OP2_zpsaf817d0f.png

Open in two tabs and flip. Keep in mind both of those images are down scaled and I have no idea why. The full sized images are 1080p, so there would be even more of a difference visible if they weren't downscaled.


Ummm, i am not sure whether you know what you are talking about since you are comparing a video file dedicated for streaming purposes and the other for quality. A video file ripped from a Blu-ray disc will always be if not mostly better than a video file taken from a streaming site. Those videos are meant to be distributed quickly through the internet and play on the go. Due to that, the footage seems to be bitrate starved(artifacts/pixelisation) as you can see in the pics you had given. They do this mainly to lower the file size so it can be streamed more faster for the audience rather than spent more time waiting. Not really the best comparisons regarding the difference between resolutions in anime if both were obtained from two different sources.

Not sure whether you know this or not but most of the anime produced today are still in 720p rather than in 1080p with the general exception of KyoAni's anime which is a bit of a hybrid of both resolutions. So, watching an anime, in this case Madoka, in full HD resolution actually is an upscale and watching it in 720p won't lose any visual quality at all. In most cases, you will gain more visual quality given you are watching it in its original resolution and certainly not worse than its 1080p counterpart.

From what i am able to perceived here is that you are experiencing the typical placebo effect when they say more is better which is common among anime fans.


Exactly, he's looking for "anime archiving", which certainly wouldn't include streaming quality. However, a Blu-ray rip would be in better quality, though only a 720p Blu-ray actually matters, 1080p is just a waste of storage space on a smaller screen.

I'll dive for the 480p if it saves enough storage space, myself. It doesn't make a huge difference on my laptop screen. As for the 28" TV, 720p shows best, 1080p doesn't really improve the picture any more than I can identify.
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worldeditor11 said:
I understand that. That is why I clearly didn't try to hide the fact that it was a screen-cap of a video being streamed. It was simply two photos to show that taking the short route is going to hinder the video quality. It was also to show that they added more detail in the Blu-Ray edition and that the larger files normally provide the best viewing experience. Also, the only thing I was able to find about the quality of anime being produced hovering around 720p was a random Wordpress article from two years ago and random forum posts from over four years ago. Mind giving me a link to something that actually proves that the standard right now is 720p? I don't doubt it that larger series might still be upscaled, but if what you're saying is true then they are playing catch-up to the West.
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May 15, 2014 9:48 PM

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When backing up my anime I keep everything at source resolution. For BDs thats 1080p. For DVDs, 480p.

Since I'm going for actual "backups", I keep the quality high. My AKB0048 BD backups are using about 46GB with 2 24bit audio tracks. (yikes!)

* Madoka is NOT upscaled
* AKB0048 is NOT upscaled
Both are definitely worth 1080p and all the space they need.
May 16, 2014 12:54 AM

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Yep, 720, as long as the bitrate is good 720p is perfect, and with madvr, upscaling to 1080p makes 720p shows (even some 480p ones) look full hd for me anyway and for half the space. Plus most companies dont render there stuff at 1080p they just upscaled it. Only cel animated shows deserved to be archived in 1080p.
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I guess it would be best to watch or download in the native resolution, I've switched from 1080 pto 720p as of yesterday. But if its a BDrip that 1080p will be downloaded lol.
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I'll get 1080p if I can, unless it's old and the highest quality is 720p.
I thought it was the norm to get 1080p if you can... hmm. Granted it seems a lot of you are watching on laptops and such. I can see how storage would be an issue then.
For quality it differs. 1080p on my monitor is native, it looks the best. I can certainly notice if something is 1080p or 720p when watching. However I think I'll start downloading 720p instead of 1080p when things are airing, since apparently it's native 720p.
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I'll get 1080p if I can, unless it's old and the highest quality is 720p.
I thought it was the norm to get 1080p if you can... hmm. Granted it seems a lot of you are watching on laptops and such. I can see how storage would be an issue then.
For quality it differs. 1080p on my monitor is native, it looks the best. I can certainly notice if something is 1080p or 720p when watching. However I think I'll start downloading 720p instead of 1080p when things are airing, since apparently it's native 720p.

I think your better off downloading 1080p BD I downloaded two files yesterday 720p and a 1080p BD the only difference is the 1080p had more saturation with its colors. For airing shows 720p is perfectly fine because your watching in native resolution.
Jul 8, 2014 11:53 AM

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1080p for me. Since i own a samsung smart tv i can watch animes on my tv trough wifi when my computer is running
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1080p for me. Since i own a samsung smart tv i can watch animes on my tv trough wifi when my computer is running
How big is your Tv?
Feb 28, 2015 4:22 AM

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720p Blu-ray mostly.

On special occasions (like anime movies, excellent series, ufotable-like visuals) I use 1080p Blu-ray.

I have one whole external hard drive that's 1 terabyte dedicated to anime. lol
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For backing up 720p is the most practical, but nothing beats watching great anime in 1080p on a big TV :D
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Feb 28, 2015 12:47 PM

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wtf who brought back this mundane topic from the dead
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TFW I don't have this problem since I buy the BDs
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Mar 1, 2015 12:52 AM

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This thread is from the 2012...
I don't think the OP is still active...
Mar 1, 2015 4:21 AM

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damn I picked 1080p lol meant 720p

for the most part when it comes to anime. their isn't much difference between 720p and 1080p

720p looks great.

FLAC is of course lossless but I dont hear a difference between that and AAC when it comes to anime at least.

One thing id like to point out though. If its a TV rip then 720p because honestly their is no difference between the two and Im using a 40" TV lol. but if its Blu-Ray then I'd say 1080p because I see a difference. a worthy difference.

but still 720p aint bad so you can stick with that.

TV Rip: 720p
Blu-Ray: 1080p (or 720p if you dont give a shit)
Audio: AAC

It also depends on the anime itself. most look great 720p but theirs some that do look better in 1080p.

Code Geass
Shinsekai Yori


Those for example look great in 1080p Blu-Ray

then their others that don't really matter like

To Aru Majutsu No Index
I dont see any point in the 1080p version. It looks the same to me.

Anime Movies though 1080p!
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TV Rip: 720p
Blur-Ray: 1080p (or 720p if you dont give a shit)
Audio: AAC
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This thread revival tho
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Depends on the anime.

A series I really like or has amazing art I'd want to keep in highest quality possible.
Anything that doesn't fit in the category above is fine kept in a lower quality format.
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720p or you end up like me having to delete shows just to make space for new ones...

http://i.imgur.com/1IhhKqo.jpg I had about 300 files and had to delete like 100 just to make space though some of them weren't anime... :/
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I'm in this dilema as well. Altough I watch anime on 55" TV and only BD encodes if they are availble, I can barely see the difference between the two resolutions. There is some, yes, but again this mostly depends on other things such as bitrates, which can have bigger impacts on overall quality. What is tied to resolution would most notably be situations when the character is drawn in the distance, there's noticable loss of details, and some blocky edges going on in 720p. But it's really a minor thing. The 1080p can be a bit more crisp with smaller details, bigger things and close up on characters, however, are about the same. It could also be that I'm wrong, it's really hard to say.

I've been actually googling for anime 1080p upscales facts to find some discussions, but all (I think) I found out is that these can only be upscales from the web/tv versions, and that all post 2000 BD releases should be true 1080p, which is why I am still interested if this can be confirmed. I mostly go with 720p for practical reasons tough (yes even on 55" it's barely a difference, at least I'm not seeing it), except for some highest rated shows I pick 1080p BD because I think they deserve it. I would say I still feel a loss of quality in 720 sometimes but it's really.. You kind of don't notice it unless you are really looking for it (it's almost like a mind trick).
Mar 10, 2015 6:25 AM

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1080p looks better than 720p period.

It doesnt matter how far you sit from your tv. It doesnt matter what your dumb xbone owning friends told you.

Higher Resolution is always higher resolution. Always.

Get a bigger hard drive, or accept that you have to watch inferior video quality.
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If a show is amazing I will get the 1080p version, anything else I will just stick with 720p.
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