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Jan 19, 2010 6:28 AM

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I actually feel sorry for kurumi, cause she odes really like kazehaya, but i guess the dark side of her made things worse so ye.
anyway even by saying all these things that sawako likes kazehaya doesnt change the fact that kurumi still hates her.
very nice episode,
Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM

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Really mgood ep. But I think Sawako is too inocent and she doesnt be able to hate Kurumi
Jan 19, 2010 3:06 PM

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BokuSatchii said:
-Hei- said:
Sawako's innocence/stupidity still pisses me off, especially in this episode. All hail Kurumi!!!
This. With each episode, I've been discovering more and more that the biggest draw of this anime for me is the strong supporting cast, whereas Kazehaya and especially Sawako have just begun to grate on my nerves. Kurumi has proved to be the most interesting character by far; I've really liked the way she's written.


I don't know what so interesting about an emotional dumb ass and a two face, but Sawako makes me laugh. Kurumi isn't that unique of a character (flat chested, short tempered, and competetive... like I've never seen that before), just a whiny little girl and a narcissist. I don't really care for Kazehaya either, but he is a little more tolerable than Kurumi.
Jan 19, 2010 3:06 PM

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jog said:
i want to smack the shit out of kurumi. the fact that she's a tsun made me hate even more, hahaha. :x

ALSO, DITTO ABOUT PIN. i love him so much, lmao. ( only b/c he reminds me so much of myself... 8)b )

I agree :)
Jan 19, 2010 5:15 PM

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If Sawako went to Kurumi was because she thought no one else would understood her better. But yeah, she is way too soft.
I thought for a second that Kurumi was going to slap Sawako when she told her that she liked Kazehaya xD.
I did pity Kurumi... I kinda know how she feels like, though I never did the things she has done.

Again, Pin almost stole the episode.
Jan 20, 2010 6:26 AM

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Everyone seriously pitied Kurumi ><


Jan 21, 2010 10:51 AM
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I feel bad for Kurumi.
Jan 23, 2010 7:18 PM

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I still find it hard to like Kurumi.

Jan 23, 2010 7:59 PM

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I feel a little sorry for Kurumi now but Sawako brings up a good point why would she spread the rumors of her own subordinates.

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Jan 27, 2010 7:10 AM

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I don't understand Sawako's naiveness, she still wants to share her secrets and talk to a person that clearly said that she hates her? Come on...

Pin ruled this episode and I have this feeling that stupid rumors will be floating around about Kurumi now as well.
Feb 10, 2010 9:20 AM
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Kirika- said:
Sawako is so naive, I can't understand her.. And now, I pity Kurumi.

Almost the same here XD, I don't pity her... =P
Feb 10, 2010 10:47 AM

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Sawako annoys me now. But oh well, let's just see if the next ep is any better. Ugh.
Mar 10, 2010 3:24 AM

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I had so much trouble watching this episode. Sawako is too naive and still lacks proper social skills. As much as I despised Kurumi, the last three episode has ruined her. Ruined her to the point of me actually feeling sorry for the girl. The characters kept kicking Kurumi while she was emotionally down for the count. When you thought the story would let it go, it wouldn't stop her punishment! Then at the end, Sawako has to get the bright idea to confess her feelings to Kurumi because she was sweet enough to open up to her in the past about their crush? Really?!?! Sawako is so socially flawed. I honestly wanted Kurumi to pick up a rock and bash Sawako in the head and just leave her there on the grass, twitching. Ugh....
Mar 10, 2010 11:41 PM

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porkypink said:
I bet Pin was actually happy that he thinks Kurumi likes him.. But now since some girls heard this false statement of Pin, I have a feeling rumors will start spreading about Kurumi and she will get bullied :(

more like she has more rumors to spread and blame it on sawako
Apr 2, 2010 3:38 PM

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First time i actually was annoyed at Sawako, holy shit how naive can one be, even after everything Kurumi did to her..

i still absolutely despise Kurumi, playing with such cheap tricks i could never get myself to like her
Jun 24, 2010 12:57 AM

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Holy crap! ...Eyeball fail.


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Jul 28, 2010 4:39 AM

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I actually wanted to shake Kuronuma really hard by the shoulders this episode.

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Aug 17, 2010 6:35 AM

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Sawako went back to comfort the dog(kurumi) who bite her - she's too nice, really
to hell with Kurumi XD
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Aug 21, 2010 11:27 AM

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Pin FTW.. xD
Sep 28, 2010 2:55 PM

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Sawako is really nice. I feel bad for Kurumi I mean she is bad and all of that but all she do is for love, I know that isn't a reason to be bad but I still feel bad for her.
Oct 3, 2010 5:00 PM

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Sawako is too naive and comes off as dumb more and more. I sort of want to hit her in the head in hopes of making her think right
Nov 7, 2010 9:03 PM
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didnt like this ep - idk what sawake is trying to accomplish, but kurumi is hands down her competition and she fights dirty. there is no reason for her to feel so sorry for her... she should focus on herself for once and what she wants... i mean what is gonna happen here? is she gonna help kurumi get with kaze?

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Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM

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Ampharos said:
Easily the worst episode so far.

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francismeunier said:
I got after this a 180 degree turn on shedding for the first time tears for Kurumi.....genuine sympathy and feeling bad for. ... All of the first time (Sawako/Yano/Yoshida VS Kurumi) was a big OoO surprise during the whole thing but the last part was just TT_TT and I still don't know why! Why?

The strength of this show is Sawako's compassion. The point of her being so naive is to allow these kind of situations to exist, to show us another side of the story. I was impressed with how even after Kurumi did all those awful things, she's still being shown as human, with her own feelings of hurt. The ending was emotional for me too. The reason why I think this is a good episode is because it was able to bring up the show's themes (love and kindness) so intensely. The worst episode would not be able to communicate that so clearly.
Dec 24, 2010 7:19 PM

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Sawako is just too sweet.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Jan 6, 2011 11:55 PM

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Sawako is starting to annoy me...
I could bear with her innocence until the very end.
There are some things not even the most compassionate person would do, imo.


Jan 14, 2011 9:21 AM

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Sawako’s so awkward, nice and naïve… It irks me off sometimes. She makes me want to pity Kurumi, which I don’t think I can do it because falling at the same level of people who used you isn’t really justified.

Pin’s so great; even though his rants will probably make Kurumi the target of jeers and more rumors… I wouldn’t mind as long it doesn’t make everyone around her feel bad since she’s being made fun of.
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Jan 15, 2011 12:00 AM

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This is the part where I lose my patience with Sawako.
Chars like her with excessive naivety rly piss me off.
Her constant groveling pisses me off.
I swear pretty soon she's gonna thank everyone for letting her breathe their air.
It also annoys me the way she runs around all oblivious,
having everyone else take care of her
then she just says sumn ditzy like "I dont want to be a bother!"
and everyone goes ohhhhh nooooo we LOVE you sawako-chan!
srsly omg
Even when she's being "bullied" it hardly seems like a problem.
and I dont like Kurumi but she's more likable than Sawako right now -_-
Feb 18, 2011 7:45 AM
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the episode was fine but that simplistic annoying overdramatic dialogue at the end was annoying.
Mar 2, 2011 5:19 PM

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lol @ the people who hate this episode. what the fuck have you been all watching lately? what sawako did suited her character perfectly.

also, i share no sympathy with kurumi. she played with fire and got burned.
Mar 3, 2011 8:35 AM

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It's a pity the confrontation wasn't as fiery as I anticipated it to be.
I feel for Kurumi when she said her looks doesn't matter if Kazehaya doesn't like her. So heartbreaking. </3
Jun 7, 2011 5:54 AM

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Lots of drama, but I liked it.

I can't really hate Kurumi.
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Jul 8, 2011 5:35 AM

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Lol the whole misunderstanding about Pin and Kurumi.
Sep 7, 2011 6:11 AM

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Pin was a total idiot, really.


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Dec 22, 2011 10:26 PM

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I love all the characters oh god this anime is perfect.


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Feb 27, 2012 10:55 PM

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Awesome episode! Though Sawako is just too nice...
Feb 29, 2012 11:32 AM

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Really liking this show but I didn't really like this episode, probably because I don't like Kurumi.
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Mar 1, 2012 10:13 AM

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Sawako is so dam sweet. she even shows love for some1 who tried to take away the one she loves most. truly admirable

my opinion of kurumi completely changed too, i feel a lot more sry for her than i did b4. she has very deep emotions for kazehaya and some of the things she did u just cant blame her. she was following what her heart craved the most
Mar 31, 2012 3:27 PM

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Pin just can't keep his mouth shut huh? He thinks that someone likes him and he gets all cocky.

"I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika
Oct 19, 2012 1:15 AM

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lostty said:
Sawako is too naive and comes off as dumb more and more. I sort of want to hit her in the head in hopes of making her think right


Salmissra said:
This is the part where I lose my patience with Sawako.
Chars like her with excessive naivety rly piss me off.
Her constant groveling pisses me off.
I swear pretty soon she's gonna thank everyone for letting her breathe their air.
It also annoys me the way she runs around all oblivious,
having everyone else take care of her
then she just says sumn ditzy like "I dont want to be a bother!"
and everyone goes ohhhhh nooooo we LOVE you sawako-chan!
srsly omg
Even when she's being "bullied" it hardly seems like a problem.
and I dont like Kurumi but she's more likable than Sawako right now -_-


Anisamar said:
Sawako’s so awkward, nice and naïve… It irks me off sometimes. She makes me want to pity Kurumi, which I don’t think I can do it because falling at the same level of people who used you isn’t really justified.



Pandaman0529 said:
Sawako is starting to annoy me...
I could bear with her innocence until the very end.
There are some things not even the most compassionate person would do, imo.


Atwa said:
First time i actually was annoyed at Sawako, holy shit how naive can one be, even after everything Kurumi did to her..


Hydrazoid said:
I agree, Sawako is SO naive that I'm really annoyed sometimes.


SmthAwful said:
To be honest Sawako thinks too much about the whole friendship thing. I sincerely hope it won't continue 'till the end of the anime and she builds up a bit more inner strength without banking too much on her friends. I don't really mind that she doesn't want Kurumi to be sad but her way of thinking "I'm so happy to have friends" is getting sorta annoying by every watched episode.


-Derp said:
Sawako's innocence/stupidity still pisses me off, especially in this episode. All hail Kurumi!!!


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Sawako is so naive, I can't understand her
Jan 26, 2013 9:56 AM

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I felt a bit sorry for Kurumi in this episode but she's still really manipulative so it's very hard to like her. Chizu was cute when Sawako called her Chizu-chan. Sawako's naivety is really endearing to me, I think she doesn't understand that people can be so manipulative.
Feb 6, 2013 7:03 AM

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It frustrates me how positive Sawako still thinks about Kurumi, i still hate her
i thought Yano-chan's plan would've been a bit more interesting though T^T But i still love her :D

And i LOVE the misunderstanding about Kurumi's feelings for Pin XD

Mar 1, 2013 8:03 PM

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Hmm, think I'm gonna have to drop this show after this episode. Was pretty decent so far but this episode really pissed me off. That Sawako girl really needs to stop being such an idiot.
Jul 13, 2013 5:02 PM

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best part of this episode was the talk between sawako and kurumi at the end...sawakos innocence/stupidity or whatever u want to call it is getting annoying
Jul 27, 2013 3:10 AM
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If not for Sawako's social awkwardness and stupidity this show would have been half shorter.

I'm not nearly as irritated as some of you by her behavior. What Kurumi thinks and does it what most girls do or would do when they care about someone so much (well maybe not THAT manipulative).
Anyway, it would be much nicer and easier it girls thought like Sawako and support each other. But since the world it different her actions are so ridiculous.

The episode itself was very good, I love how this show never seems to be dragging things too much and is really diverse in art.
Jul 30, 2013 8:29 PM

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Pin is such a riot!

Sawako should really think more but still love her...

Kurumi should have also used her brain. Well karma is a bitch. Now she has to deal with the Pin rumors hahahah xD

4/5

Nov 12, 2013 2:11 AM
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This thread is a bit old, but I'd like to get a word in.

For everyone saying Sawako is naive and stupid for being so forgiving and oblivious... I find her to be really strong, and what people call oblivious I see as just too beautifully kind, that it leaves me in awe.

Many people are manipulative and the ones who are project/generalize that image on the world because it's something that becomes integrated in a person's roots so they think every other person is the same way. Most are, but every rule has an exception. Sawako doesn't see why the world should be fighting, only how to make it better.

She could see how much Kurumi was in pain, and showed her something she's forgotten and no one else could give her because they don't have this strength of Sawako's. The strength I'm referring to is kindness and sincerity.

I respect and admire Sawako because I've never seen someone who can cry so honestly. If I ever have, then I have regrettably long forgotten it.

It doesn't matter if anyone who criticizes Sawako changes their minds.. In my opinion... Since she doesn't do it because others are watching or with an agenda, I think she takes full responsibility for her choices and just does what's right, more right then any normal person could even come near to. In closing, she's not looking to spare an enemy, because she doesn't see threats, only people, and she doesn't see that people are broken, but rather how she can brighten people's lives, because she hasn't lost sight of such a simple truth: Everyone just wants to be happy, no matter who they are... Her magic mends the scars on people's hearts that are hidden too deep to see.

I'm known to be stubborn, so maybe I got it all wrong, but it's my opinion, and I can't do anything but stick by it, because it's what I truly believe. If you disagree, then I still accept you for your opinion even if you don't accept me for mine.
Feb 14, 2014 9:33 AM

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good god Sawako is so apologetic all the time .........it pisses me off
and Kurumi still feels she is entitled to something LOL.

Feb 14, 2014 12:11 PM
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Like everyone else, Sawako's apologetic personality gets on my nerves too... it's really cliche for a lot of shoujos for the main to be super insecure and unsure of her feelings. But I'm trusting reviews I've read that this anime eventually breaks the stereotypes. ^^;

Even kurumi's character reminds me SO MUCH of Megumi from Suki-tte Ii na yo. She tries to isolate the main character by cutting her off from her friends, acts really sweet to her face, etc.

The Pin rumors are such vicious karma though haha! I can't think of anything worse.
Mar 30, 2014 3:23 PM

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I get why she feels that way I know what it feels like to be used and then discarded bc I became useless to them i do know what it feels like so I guess in that sense I do feel bad for her

When everyone was feeling sorry for her with the Pin scene n everything I was like even with all this I dont feel sorry for her u reap what u so n i felt like I didnt care what happened until i finished the sentence n i was like well hell I do feel sorry for her but only when it comes to that though because I still think she is a bitch no matter what is said however I did think that same way of I think her name was Aiko-chan from Sukitte Ii na yo but my impression of her chanced in that so i guess it could happen but it is going to take alot to do that.
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Chizu scores a nice free kick, Ronaldo style.

Sawako has begun to kind of disappoint me a bit, but I do like her innocence.

As for Kurumi, I feel bad for her now.

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