What do you think about how guys act like little pussys in harem anime?

Jul 5, 2022 5:58 PM

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I don't mind it, I sometimes like that reaction lol. At least it is far better than those shitty "chad" MCs that I hate so much.

Jul 5, 2022 7:38 PM

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Gutzdeep42 said:

CodeBlazeFate said:

Manaban said:

CodeBlazeFate said:
It takes like no effort or time unless it's a major plot point for the show or an episode, and it actually makes it more relatable for those trying to insert themselves into the Protagonist like "Hey, I practice abstinence or would only have sex after a stable relationship too; I identify with him even more now and am even more invested", as well as making potential naysayers day "oh hey, he's actually pretty reasonable so now I like this guy a bit more". You know, that way it conveniences the viewer even more while also conveniencing even more viewers. It caters to more crowds that way rather than saying "people who already like this kind of entertainment only".

First off, drawing attention to my edit:

Putting those other possibilities aside, I think your idea is kind of dogshit, because while at face value (in terms of just stating it rather than thinking of it in application) it'd leave the type of content open, it'd demand that the female character in question respect that stated desire lest she be painted as an inconsiderate bitch and therefore lessening the type of content keeping me coming back by extension. The only thing we'd be able to work with is the idea that these feelings are there, and part of the entertainment from the product (to me at least) comes from that admiration being shown rather than just known to be there.

It takes like no effort or time unless it's a major plot point for the show or an episode

"Let's just toss it in there to give a reason for something being like this and keep on rolling like normal."

Can't say I think that people wouldn't pick up on that. It'd just get lambasted as being lazy and tossed in there for the sake of maintaining a harem if it would proceed as normal, and if it didn't then like I illustrated above, the only way to do so without bastardizing a character for no good reason is to make a change that I feel would negatively impact the product for the most part.

Right now I'm treating it like you're trying to sell me on this idea moreso than anything, since I am a fan of the type of product in question and I see no good coming from it for somebody like myself from my own perspective, only potential negatives for the sake of appealing to a broader audience.

"Hey, I practice abstinence or would only have sex after a stable relationship too; I identify with him even more now and am even more invested"

Yeah. Being a bit of a prude and practicing abstinence is totally going to make the average harem fan like the MC more and relate to them.

I know I'm being a bit of a dick here, but I just can't think of an earnest response to that one because it seems so absurd to me ._.

as well as making potential naysayers day "oh hey, he's actually pretty reasonable so now I like this guy a bit more". You know, that way it conveniences the viewer even more while also conveniencing even more viewers. It caters to more crowds that way rather than saying "people who already like this kind of entertainment only".

Well, why should I even care about other people liking the type of product I like to begin with? I'm not as thin-skinned as to be hurt by people hating it, and in most cases I only argue in defense of it as a matter of principle because I don't like people (who usually don't tend to be fans of the type of product in question themselves) trying to argue in favor of ideas that I think will actively work against my enjoyment of what I like for their own sake rather than anything else.

Since I quite frankly don't care about criticisms and opinions of non-fans to begin with, what other benefits would I gain by pushing to making the product more accessible to many that would compensate the (probably hurtful) changes that may come alongside it? What does this do for me and why should I even factor it into account when taking into consideration ways to improve the general quality of the product?

They would fefinitely pick up on that, but they'd say that it makes the main character much more bearable for them as while it keeps its harem, it does so in a way that actually keeps them on their toes and feels at least somewhat more fresh than MC leaving because harem didctates that he just ditch her for no other reason.

I am trying to sell this idea. I mean, that's partly why Chivalry of a Failed Knight was much more widely accepted than day, The Asterisk War. It took more risks and tried to feel more human while either keeping or playing around with the typical elements it has at its disposal.

Dude, they're selling this to 14-17 year old teen boys who are fresh to the whole sex and romance scene. Of course we're often prudes about this. This target demographic often does practice abstinence or at least only wishes to have sex after establishing a strong relationship. It's part of the dream for us. They're not just selling it to adult harem lovers, they're mostly selling it to people like me.

Not saying you should care about what critics of the work have to say about it. Just that we wanna join in on the fun sometimes too and that shows that actually allow that of us are incredibly cathartic and rewarding. These are minute additions that wouldn't really hurt the product, especially if it wants to branch out and do more interesting things (hence why they'd take such a risk). It could potentially attract some more viewers, therefore make some more money, as we all know studios are all about that cash.

All of that is just fucking sad AF and you should have your man card revoked until your balls drop out of that vagina you currently have.

You're responding to a bunch of 4 year old posts to revive some random and dead ass thread from well before you joined. You literally cannot talk with that inverted one-incher. This is somehow the saddest and most confounding thing I've seen on MAL all year, and that's impressive...as well as horrifying.

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Nov 12, 2022 9:46 PM

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Its fucking pathetic and cowardly beyond human comprehension. Not even the biggest loser i have ever known my entire life hasnt come close to as big a pussy and scared lil punk bitch as any of the ball-less cowardly make shift otaku forever virgins.

Nov 12, 2022 9:47 PM

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MortalMelancholy said:
All Japanese guys are little pussys, duhh.

This is actually pretty fucking accurate. Japan's male population is essentially the BETA BITCH CAPITOL of the WORLD.

Nov 12, 2022 9:49 PM

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1lastfall said:
Does the following idea not sound kind of amusing though?:

So think of a harem anime where the main character was just playing all the girls that want him, getting with all of them, pissing off all the other ones that are in love with him.

There would be fierce emotions.

The end could be break-through. For example, the MC actually picks and marries one. Or even better, the girls never talk to the MC again after realizing he's a douchebag and group kick his ass while the credits roll. hahaha

This whole premise is a total crock of shit wussy otaku loser cop out.

Just look at how Arifureta did it he made one girl the primary and the others fought for second place. The did a good job and did it right... there are a million different ways the otaku forever virgin writer could play the whole thing out but they choose to go the most epic pussy loser route they can imagine.

Nov 12, 2022 10:26 PM

#106

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Its fine as long as the girls are cute. The girls are the main draw of any harem show anyways.

Nov 14, 2022 10:51 PM

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harem anime are not designed for male protagonist to be likable to female viewers. They are designed simply to be relatable to a male viewer.

On the other hand, female characters on the harem are designed to be liked by male viewers. Be sexy in male eyes. Other shows with many girls, even something like GuP is also designed this way.

if you think this is unfair, then in shoujo/josei genre it is the other way around. Guy is designed to be likable for female viewer and girl simply to be relatable to the same kind of female viewer.

Western Romance movies or books like Twilight or Fifty Shades of Grey also work this way. That is why they make no sense to guys and we do not like them.

I mean Japan even makes it obvious by sorting their entertainment by demographics instead. Shoujo/Josei means for female viewer. Shounen/Seinen for male viewer. As simple as that.

There is a rare anime that can transcend this demographic divide and appeal to both genders. Code Geass may be.

There is also Revolutionary Girl Utena that elaborates on the whole appeal to the opposite gender. That is what makes attracts people in the opposite gender and how to exploit it. It is however discreet requires you read between the lines to get most out of it.

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Aug 9, 2023 11:49 PM

#108

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They are pathetic beyond comprehension.. they are a fucking hardcore mega insult to the male species... anime portrays men as cowardly worthless ball-less cowards and mega simp losers. Its enough to make my stomach turn.

Aug 9, 2023 11:51 PM

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EmperorThor said:
harem anime are not designed for male protagonist to be likable to female viewers. They are designed simply to be relatable to a male viewer.

On the other hand, female characters on the harem are designed to be liked by male viewers. Be sexy in male eyes. Other shows with many girls, even something like GuP is also designed this way.

if you think this is unfair, then in shoujo/josei genre it is the other way around. Guy is designed to be likable for female viewer and girl simply to be relatable to the same kind of female viewer.

Western Romance movies or books like Twilight or Fifty Shades of Grey also work this way. That is why they make no sense to guys and we do not like them.

I mean Japan even makes it obvious by sorting their entertainment by demographics instead. Shoujo/Josei means for female viewer. Shounen/Seinen for male viewer. As simple as that.

There is a rare anime that can transcend this demographic divide and appeal to both genders. Code Geass may be.

There is also Revolutionary Girl Utena that elaborates on the whole appeal to the opposite gender. That is what makes attracts people in the opposite gender and how to exploit it. It is however discreet requires you read between the lines to get most out of it.

Except they arent even remotely relateable on any level what so ever to anyone except the bottom of the barrel creepy AF mega loser incel/otaku's.

Aug 10, 2023 12:22 AM

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Chad or Beta, it doesn't matter. In Fuufu Ijou, Koibito Miman, the MC Jirou isn't quite beta, but is more of a chad with the 2 main girls, and I loved the dynamics between him and his love interests, just as much as I love the dynamics between Kazuya and his harem in Rent a Girlfriend. These types of anime are more about the give and take between all the love interests involved, and whether you are chad or a beta has no bearing on my enjoyment of the genre. (romance/harem)

Aug 10, 2023 1:38 AM

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Gutzdeep42 said:

Except they arent even remotely relateable on any level what so ever to anyone except the bottom of the barrel creepy AF mega loser incel/otaku's.

That is just toxic misandry, I am reporting you.

shoujo romance gender is full of equally unappealing female protagonists whom no guy in the sane mind will even date.

Nowadays we have too many ugly women with guys who are way too good for them, we need to even that out.

So all these unattractive male MC do deserve the best girls they could possibly want.

I will not approve of any girl who cannot be sympathetic to Yukinari from Girls Bravo

Anyhow from harem male protagonists I can relate to Saotome from Hand Maid May

I did not watched something like Rent a GF so cannot judge here.

Anyhow, it is girls that need to be more pussy rather than guys need balls or whatever.

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Aug 10, 2023 1:48 AM

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Fortunately, they aren't nearly as bad as they used to be, for the most part.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Aug 10, 2023 2:49 AM

#113

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They're one of the many, many reasons why harem genre fucking sucks and is awfully braindead as hell.

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